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[email protected] September 29th 05 06:55 AM

FS - A lathe for all budgets
 
We purchased a bunch of lathes this last week and now have lathes from
$250. to $10,000. Sure the cheaper ones need some work to bring them up
to snuff but they are all American or British and parts are available.
Two of the lathes are rare long bed SBL's so you pool cue guys pay
attention.
9" SBL on factory cabinet
9" SBL long bed on factory cabinet
10" SBL long bed light duty on factory cabinet
10" SBL heavy on hairpin legs, well tooled
10" EMCO Maier very late
11" Clausing Colchester nice
11" Logan table model rough
12" Clausing on factory stand- older
13" Harrison AA Nice!
13" Harrison M300 w/ tracer Nice!
13" Clausing/ Colchester needs ways reground Cheap!
15" LeBlond Superb!
17" Clausing Colchester Cheap!
These lathes are in Costa Mesa, CA. Call (949) 645-7601 or Email me.
Please don't ask for pictures and specs on all of them. Reasonable
requests will be aced on promptly. I will be out of town all next week.
Leigh


Gunner September 29th 05 11:11 AM

On 28 Sep 2005 22:55:20 -0700, wrote:

We purchased a bunch of lathes this last week and now have lathes from
$250. to $10,000. Sure the cheaper ones need some work to bring them up
to snuff but they are all American or British and parts are available.
Two of the lathes are rare long bed SBL's so you pool cue guys pay
attention.
9" SBL on factory cabinet
9" SBL long bed on factory cabinet
10" SBL long bed light duty on factory cabinet
10" SBL heavy on hairpin legs, well tooled
10" EMCO Maier very late
11" Clausing Colchester nice
11" Logan table model rough
12" Clausing on factory stand- older
13" Harrison AA Nice!
13" Harrison M300 w/ tracer Nice!
13" Clausing/ Colchester needs ways reground Cheap!
15" LeBlond Superb!
17" Clausing Colchester Cheap!
These lathes are in Costa Mesa, CA. Call (949) 645-7601 or Email me.
Please don't ask for pictures and specs on all of them. Reasonable
requests will be aced on promptly. I will be out of town all next week.
Leigh


I reviewed some of these machines today. Some pretty nice stuff in
there.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

HotRod September 29th 05 03:42 PM

Gunner because you have first hand knowledge of these lathes.

O.K. A stupid shop guy here. I've been hunting for a small lathe for some
time. Preferable something that has about a six foot, footprint. And since
I'm a novice just trying to repair some basic parts and turn some basic
parts. What would you recommend? I think shipping to Ontario will be more of
an issue than anything. Any chance someone wants to house mine for free use
until I can get a truck down there to pick it up?




"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On 28 Sep 2005 22:55:20 -0700, wrote:

We purchased a bunch of lathes this last week and now have lathes from
$250. to $10,000. Sure the cheaper ones need some work to bring them up
to snuff but they are all American or British and parts are available.
Two of the lathes are rare long bed SBL's so you pool cue guys pay
attention.
9" SBL on factory cabinet
9" SBL long bed on factory cabinet
10" SBL long bed light duty on factory cabinet
10" SBL heavy on hairpin legs, well tooled
10" EMCO Maier very late
11" Clausing Colchester nice
11" Logan table model rough
12" Clausing on factory stand- older
13" Harrison AA Nice!
13" Harrison M300 w/ tracer Nice!
13" Clausing/ Colchester needs ways reground Cheap!
15" LeBlond Superb!
17" Clausing Colchester Cheap!
These lathes are in Costa Mesa, CA. Call (949) 645-7601 or Email me.
Please don't ask for pictures and specs on all of them. Reasonable
requests will be aced on promptly. I will be out of town all next week.
Leigh


I reviewed some of these machines today. Some pretty nice stuff in
there.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner




Adam Smith September 29th 05 04:18 PM

If that is Ontario, Canada and not Ontario, California, I'd probably look
around Detroit, Buffalo, or Rochester, rather than in California.

Seems to me that the buys to be had out of Detroit are as good as those
anywhere. (Which is a sad symptom, but that is a different issue). YMMV, of
course.

Regards,

Adam Smith,
Midland, ON, Canada

"HotRod" wrote in message
...
Gunner because you have first hand knowledge of these lathes.

O.K. A stupid shop guy here. I've been hunting for a small lathe for some
time. Preferable something that has about a six foot, footprint. And since
I'm a novice just trying to repair some basic parts and turn some basic
parts. What would you recommend? I think shipping to Ontario will be more
of an issue than anything. Any chance someone wants to house mine for free
use until I can get a truck down there to pick it up?




"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On 28 Sep 2005 22:55:20 -0700, wrote:

We purchased a bunch of lathes this last week and now have lathes from
$250. to $10,000. Sure the cheaper ones need some work to bring them up
to snuff but they are all American or British and parts are available.
Two of the lathes are rare long bed SBL's so you pool cue guys pay
attention.
9" SBL on factory cabinet
9" SBL long bed on factory cabinet
10" SBL long bed light duty on factory cabinet
10" SBL heavy on hairpin legs, well tooled
10" EMCO Maier very late
11" Clausing Colchester nice
11" Logan table model rough
12" Clausing on factory stand- older
13" Harrison AA Nice!
13" Harrison M300 w/ tracer Nice!
13" Clausing/ Colchester needs ways reground Cheap!
15" LeBlond Superb!
17" Clausing Colchester Cheap!
These lathes are in Costa Mesa, CA. Call (949) 645-7601 or Email me.
Please don't ask for pictures and specs on all of them. Reasonable
requests will be aced on promptly. I will be out of town all next week.
Leigh


I reviewed some of these machines today. Some pretty nice stuff in
there.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner






HotRod September 29th 05 09:18 PM

My biggest problem is knowing what to buy. Since all of the letters and
acronyms are as foreign to me as most computer related numbers are to other
people. I've been keeping my eye out but just haven't seen anything yet. I
guess I'll look closer in Ontario, Canada


"Adam Smith" wrote in message
...
If that is Ontario, Canada and not Ontario, California, I'd probably look
around Detroit, Buffalo, or Rochester, rather than in California.

Seems to me that the buys to be had out of Detroit are as good as those
anywhere. (Which is a sad symptom, but that is a different issue). YMMV,
of
course.

Regards,

Adam Smith,
Midland, ON, Canada

"HotRod" wrote in message
...
Gunner because you have first hand knowledge of these lathes.

O.K. A stupid shop guy here. I've been hunting for a small lathe for some
time. Preferable something that has about a six foot, footprint. And
since I'm a novice just trying to repair some basic parts and turn some
basic parts. What would you recommend? I think shipping to Ontario will
be more of an issue than anything. Any chance someone wants to house mine
for free use until I can get a truck down there to pick it up?




"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On 28 Sep 2005 22:55:20 -0700, wrote:

We purchased a bunch of lathes this last week and now have lathes from
$250. to $10,000. Sure the cheaper ones need some work to bring them up
to snuff but they are all American or British and parts are available.
Two of the lathes are rare long bed SBL's so you pool cue guys pay
attention.
9" SBL on factory cabinet
9" SBL long bed on factory cabinet
10" SBL long bed light duty on factory cabinet
10" SBL heavy on hairpin legs, well tooled
10" EMCO Maier very late
11" Clausing Colchester nice
11" Logan table model rough
12" Clausing on factory stand- older
13" Harrison AA Nice!
13" Harrison M300 w/ tracer Nice!
13" Clausing/ Colchester needs ways reground Cheap!
15" LeBlond Superb!
17" Clausing Colchester Cheap!
These lathes are in Costa Mesa, CA. Call (949) 645-7601 or Email me.
Please don't ask for pictures and specs on all of them. Reasonable
requests will be aced on promptly. I will be out of town all next week.
Leigh

I reviewed some of these machines today. Some pretty nice stuff in
there.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner








Adam Smith September 29th 05 10:11 PM

I've had pretty good luck with buying machinery in Michigan and upstate New
York. I just rent a flatbed, go on down and get it, stop at customs on the
way back. All found on ebay, no magic contacts. Do an advanced search in the
Manufacturing-Metalworking_Metalworking-Equipment Lathe section, search for
stuff within 250 miles of Toronto (or your postal code). Add it as a
favourite search get it sent to your email every day. Sit back and do
nothing, watch some items (with no intention of bidding), just to track what
the closing prices are. Hang back even if something tempting goes by, for at
least a week or ten days. Then buy something when a reasonable piece that
meets your needs goes by. I like the old stuff, so one of my favourite
searches is for key word "antique". I picked up a little Seneca Star for
$350 US about a month ago, doing exactly that. I paid a little too much
(there was basically no tooling), but it is a beautiful thing in excellent
condition, I'm really happy to have it. It looks like a miniature of the
Hendey 16" that I run the most, (not that it is really tiny, without the
risers the Seneca swings 9"). The old stuff seems to go for a lot less than
newer machines (and not without some reason, actually). I bought the Hendey
for $600 Canadian a long time ago, but I've seen comparable deals fairly
frequently on ebay. Comparable new machine pretty much always brings $3k at
least.

Watch out for lathes for which lots of the tooling is missing, though: all
very well and good for me to make some tooling for the Seneca: I've got a
running lathe and mill (amongst other pieces) to use for the job. You'll be
happiest if you find something that you can start making chips right away.

I wouldn't worry ithat/i much about making a mistake: if you don't fall
in love and bid wildly more than a piece is worth you can always sell it and
buy again with the proceeds. Which is actually sort of fun, so why worry.
Just don't let yourself go icompletely/i crazy on the price and you'll
be ok.

It might be a good idea to get a copy of the South Bend manual from Lindsay
while you are waiting and looking. The more you know, the better you'll do.

Let us know when you find something.

Adam Smith
Midland ON

"HotRod" wrote in message
...
My biggest problem is knowing what to buy. Since all of the letters and
acronyms are as foreign to me as most computer related numbers are to
other people. I've been keeping my eye out but just haven't seen anything
yet. I guess I'll look closer in Ontario, Canada


"Adam Smith" wrote in message
...
If that is Ontario, Canada and not Ontario, California, I'd probably look
around Detroit, Buffalo, or Rochester, rather than in California.

Seems to me that the buys to be had out of Detroit are as good as those
anywhere. (Which is a sad symptom, but that is a different issue). YMMV,
of
course.

Regards,

Adam Smith,
Midland, ON, Canada

"HotRod" wrote in message
...
Gunner because you have first hand knowledge of these lathes.

O.K. A stupid shop guy here. I've been hunting for a small lathe for
some time. Preferable something that has about a six foot, footprint.
And since I'm a novice just trying to repair some basic parts and turn
some basic parts. What would you recommend? I think shipping to Ontario
will be more of an issue than anything. Any chance someone wants to
house mine for free use until I can get a truck down there to pick it
up?




"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On 28 Sep 2005 22:55:20 -0700, wrote:

We purchased a bunch of lathes this last week and now have lathes from
$250. to $10,000. Sure the cheaper ones need some work to bring them up
to snuff but they are all American or British and parts are available.
Two of the lathes are rare long bed SBL's so you pool cue guys pay
attention.
9" SBL on factory cabinet
9" SBL long bed on factory cabinet
10" SBL long bed light duty on factory cabinet
10" SBL heavy on hairpin legs, well tooled
10" EMCO Maier very late
11" Clausing Colchester nice
11" Logan table model rough
12" Clausing on factory stand- older
13" Harrison AA Nice!
13" Harrison M300 w/ tracer Nice!
13" Clausing/ Colchester needs ways reground Cheap!
15" LeBlond Superb!
17" Clausing Colchester Cheap!
These lathes are in Costa Mesa, CA. Call (949) 645-7601 or Email me.
Please don't ask for pictures and specs on all of them. Reasonable
requests will be aced on promptly. I will be out of town all next week.
Leigh

I reviewed some of these machines today. Some pretty nice stuff in
there.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner









Rex B September 29th 05 10:12 PM

Want a cheap education?
By a 7x10 import lathe from Homier or Harbeor Freight or Enco or Cummins
The freight cost is probably the deciding factor). Great little learning
tool which will also probably do 90% of the jobs you need it for. After
a few months with it, you will know a lot more about your needs. At that
time you can shop with more knowledge. Once you have the Ultimate Lathe,
you can sell the mini for almost what you have in it. But by then you
will be attached to it :)

- -
Rex Burkheimer

HotRod wrote:
My biggest problem is knowing what to buy. Since all of the letters and
acronyms are as foreign to me as most computer related numbers are to other
people. I've been keeping my eye out but just haven't seen anything yet. I
guess I'll look closer in Ontario, Canada


Adam Smith September 29th 05 10:27 PM

I'd say that this is pretty good advice as well. I like the people at Busy
Bee reasonably well, their 7 x 10 is a lot more lathe than the Unimat I did
my first turning on. (For the Americans in the audience: Busy Bee
approximately equals Enco). I'd take a look at what the folks at Atlas
Machinery on Queen St. are selling as well, I ireally/i like dealing
with them.

ping Robin S. : What are the Atlas folks selling as intro lathe these days?
For how much?

Adam Smith
Midland, ON

"Rex B" wrote in message
...
Want a cheap education?
By a 7x10 import lathe from Homier or Harbeor Freight or Enco or Cummins
The freight cost is probably the deciding factor). Great little learning
tool which will also probably do 90% of the jobs you need it for. After a
few months with it, you will know a lot more about your needs. At that
time you can shop with more knowledge. Once you have the Ultimate Lathe,
you can sell the mini for almost what you have in it. But by then you
will be attached to it :)

- -
Rex Burkheimer

HotRod wrote:
My biggest problem is knowing what to buy. Since all of the letters and
acronyms are as foreign to me as most computer related numbers are to
other people. I've been keeping my eye out but just haven't seen anything
yet. I guess I'll look closer in Ontario, Canada




Rex B September 29th 05 10:58 PM


Adam Smith wrote:
I've had pretty good luck with buying machinery in Michigan and upstate New
York. I just rent a flatbed, go on down and get it, stop at customs on the
way back. All found on ebay, no magic contacts. Do an advanced search in the
Manufacturing-Metalworking_Metalworking-Equipment Lathe section, search for
stuff within 250 miles of Toronto (or your postal code). Add it as a
favourite search get it sent to your email every day. Sit back and do
nothing, watch some items (with no intention of bidding), just to track what
the closing prices are. Hang back even if something tempting goes by, for at
least a week or ten days. Then buy something when a reasonable piece that
meets your needs goes by.


And use AuctionSniper.com
It works

I like the old stuff, so one of my favourite
searches is for key word "antique".


I wonder who bought that beautiful museum quality lathe a few months ago
out of Colorado?
It went for a song, broke my heart I didn't bid on it.

Rex

Adam Smith September 30th 05 01:16 AM



"Rex B" wrote in message
...

snip

I like the old stuff, so one of my favourite searches is for key word
"antique".


I wonder who bought that beautiful museum quality lathe a few months ago
out of Colorado?
It went for a song, broke my heart I didn't bid on it.

Rex


Missed that one, out of the normal range of my search. I've stopped
frustrating myself with stuff that is over 500 mi away. There was an
absolutely beautiful Lodge and Shipley a few weeks ago, NY state, that had
me drooling. Lots of tooling. I had to keep on reminding myself that I'm
ireally/i not in the market for another lathe. Seems like there was a
rash of nice antiques there for a while.

The one that had me really stewing in my own juices was the 12' Cincinatti
planer from the 50s. Only $1k opener (still too much, really), but in any
case over 20k lbs, would have taken professional riggers for sure. I guess
it would have been $5-$6k to move. And then there is finding space, spending
a year to get it running .... . Even so, that was sad to let go by. I sure
would like a big planer. Maybe just a little smaller than that one, though.

Adam



Adam Smith
Midland ON



Gunner September 30th 05 05:04 AM

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:42:50 -0400, "HotRod"
wrote:

Gunner because you have first hand knowledge of these lathes.

O.K. A stupid shop guy here. I've been hunting for a small lathe for some
time. Preferable something that has about a six foot, footprint. And since
I'm a novice just trying to repair some basic parts and turn some basic
parts. What would you recommend? I think shipping to Ontario will be more of
an issue than anything. Any chance someone wants to house mine for free use
until I can get a truck down there to pick it up?

Id recommend these

10" EMCO Maier very late
11" Clausing Colchester nice


They are lathes you can do most anything with, and are in turn key
condition.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

HotRod September 30th 05 03:12 PM

Adam
I think I'll just drive down to Midland and pick one up at your shop :-)
Thanks for the great advice it's hard to try and be an expert at all kinds
of different tools.


"Adam Smith" wrote in message
...
I've had pretty good luck with buying machinery in Michigan and upstate
New York. I just rent a flatbed, go on down and get it, stop at customs on
the way back. All found on ebay, no magic contacts. Do an advanced search
in the Manufacturing-Metalworking_Metalworking-Equipment Lathe section,
search for stuff within 250 miles of Toronto (or your postal code). Add it
as a favourite search get it sent to your email every day. Sit back and do
nothing, watch some items (with no intention of bidding), just to track
what the closing prices are. Hang back even if something tempting goes by,
for at least a week or ten days. Then buy something when a reasonable
piece that meets your needs goes by. I like the old stuff, so one of my
favourite searches is for key word "antique". I picked up a little Seneca
Star for $350 US about a month ago, doing exactly that. I paid a little
too much (there was basically no tooling), but it is a beautiful thing in
excellent condition, I'm really happy to have it. It looks like a
miniature of the Hendey 16" that I run the most, (not that it is really
tiny, without the risers the Seneca swings 9"). The old stuff seems to go
for a lot less than newer machines (and not without some reason,
actually). I bought the Hendey for $600 Canadian a long time ago, but I've
seen comparable deals fairly frequently on ebay. Comparable new machine
pretty much always brings $3k at least.

Watch out for lathes for which lots of the tooling is missing, though: all
very well and good for me to make some tooling for the Seneca: I've got a
running lathe and mill (amongst other pieces) to use for the job. You'll
be happiest if you find something that you can start making chips right
away.

I wouldn't worry ithat/i much about making a mistake: if you don't
fall in love and bid wildly more than a piece is worth you can always sell
it and buy again with the proceeds. Which is actually sort of fun, so why
worry. Just don't let yourself go icompletely/i crazy on the price and
you'll be ok.

It might be a good idea to get a copy of the South Bend manual from
Lindsay while you are waiting and looking. The more you know, the better
you'll do.

Let us know when you find something.

Adam Smith
Midland ON

"HotRod" wrote in message
...
My biggest problem is knowing what to buy. Since all of the letters and
acronyms are as foreign to me as most computer related numbers are to
other people. I've been keeping my eye out but just haven't seen anything
yet. I guess I'll look closer in Ontario, Canada


"Adam Smith" wrote in message
...
If that is Ontario, Canada and not Ontario, California, I'd probably
look
around Detroit, Buffalo, or Rochester, rather than in California.

Seems to me that the buys to be had out of Detroit are as good as those
anywhere. (Which is a sad symptom, but that is a different issue). YMMV,
of
course.

Regards,

Adam Smith,
Midland, ON, Canada

"HotRod" wrote in message
...
Gunner because you have first hand knowledge of these lathes.

O.K. A stupid shop guy here. I've been hunting for a small lathe for
some time. Preferable something that has about a six foot, footprint.
And since I'm a novice just trying to repair some basic parts and turn
some basic parts. What would you recommend? I think shipping to Ontario
will be more of an issue than anything. Any chance someone wants to
house mine for free use until I can get a truck down there to pick it
up?




"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On 28 Sep 2005 22:55:20 -0700, wrote:

We purchased a bunch of lathes this last week and now have lathes from
$250. to $10,000. Sure the cheaper ones need some work to bring them
up
to snuff but they are all American or British and parts are available.
Two of the lathes are rare long bed SBL's so you pool cue guys pay
attention.
9" SBL on factory cabinet
9" SBL long bed on factory cabinet
10" SBL long bed light duty on factory cabinet
10" SBL heavy on hairpin legs, well tooled
10" EMCO Maier very late
11" Clausing Colchester nice
11" Logan table model rough
12" Clausing on factory stand- older
13" Harrison AA Nice!
13" Harrison M300 w/ tracer Nice!
13" Clausing/ Colchester needs ways reground Cheap!
15" LeBlond Superb!
17" Clausing Colchester Cheap!
These lathes are in Costa Mesa, CA. Call (949) 645-7601 or Email me.
Please don't ask for pictures and specs on all of them. Reasonable
requests will be aced on promptly. I will be out of town all next
week.
Leigh

I reviewed some of these machines today. Some pretty nice stuff in
there.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner











HotRod September 30th 05 03:15 PM

Rex, if you see something nice post it so that I can scoop it up. I'm
currently in the process of purchasing another shop. This one will be my
third and is 5000 sqr feet I should have the room for a lathe and mill.


"Adam Smith" wrote in message
...


"Rex B" wrote in message
...

snip

I like the old stuff, so one of my favourite searches is for key word
"antique".


I wonder who bought that beautiful museum quality lathe a few months ago
out of Colorado?
It went for a song, broke my heart I didn't bid on it.

Rex


Missed that one, out of the normal range of my search. I've stopped
frustrating myself with stuff that is over 500 mi away. There was an
absolutely beautiful Lodge and Shipley a few weeks ago, NY state, that had
me drooling. Lots of tooling. I had to keep on reminding myself that I'm
ireally/i not in the market for another lathe. Seems like there was a
rash of nice antiques there for a while.

The one that had me really stewing in my own juices was the 12' Cincinatti
planer from the 50s. Only $1k opener (still too much, really), but in any
case over 20k lbs, would have taken professional riggers for sure. I guess
it would have been $5-$6k to move. And then there is finding space,
spending a year to get it running .... . Even so, that was sad to let go
by. I sure would like a big planer. Maybe just a little smaller than that
one, though.

Adam



Adam Smith
Midland ON




HotRod September 30th 05 09:13 PM

Believe it or not I actually am a computer user but how the heck do I
specify the "Manufacturing-Metalworking_Metalworking-Equipment Lathe "
category under advanced search. I know I'll figure it out about 2 sec. after
I send this but HELP



"Adam Smith" wrote in message
...
I've had pretty good luck with buying machinery in Michigan and upstate
New York. I just rent a flatbed, go on down and get it, stop at customs on
the way back. All found on ebay, no magic contacts. Do an advanced search
in the Manufacturing-Metalworking_Metalworking-Equipment Lathe section,
search for stuff within 250 miles of Toronto (or your postal code). Add it
as a favourite search get it sent to your email every day. Sit back and do
nothing, watch some items (with no intention of bidding), just to track
what the closing prices are. Hang back even if something tempting goes by,
for at least a week or ten days. Then buy something when a reasonable
piece that meets your needs goes by. I like the old stuff, so one of my
favourite searches is for key word "antique". I picked up a little Seneca
Star for $350 US about a month ago, doing exactly that. I paid a little
too much (there was basically no tooling), but it is a beautiful thing in
excellent condition, I'm really happy to have it. It looks like a
miniature of the Hendey 16" that I run the most, (not that it is really
tiny, without the risers the Seneca swings 9"). The old stuff seems to go
for a lot less than newer machines (and not without some reason,
actually). I bought the Hendey for $600 Canadian a long time ago, but I've
seen comparable deals fairly frequently on ebay. Comparable new machine
pretty much always brings $3k at least.

Watch out for lathes for which lots of the tooling is missing, though: all
very well and good for me to make some tooling for the Seneca: I've got a
running lathe and mill (amongst other pieces) to use for the job. You'll
be happiest if you find something that you can start making chips right
away.

I wouldn't worry ithat/i much about making a mistake: if you don't
fall in love and bid wildly more than a piece is worth you can always sell
it and buy again with the proceeds. Which is actually sort of fun, so why
worry. Just don't let yourself go icompletely/i crazy on the price and
you'll be ok.

It might be a good idea to get a copy of the South Bend manual from
Lindsay while you are waiting and looking. The more you know, the better
you'll do.

Let us know when you find something.

Adam Smith
Midland ON

"HotRod" wrote in message
...
My biggest problem is knowing what to buy. Since all of the letters and
acronyms are as foreign to me as most computer related numbers are to
other people. I've been keeping my eye out but just haven't seen anything
yet. I guess I'll look closer in Ontario, Canada


"Adam Smith" wrote in message
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If that is Ontario, Canada and not Ontario, California, I'd probably
look
around Detroit, Buffalo, or Rochester, rather than in California.

Seems to me that the buys to be had out of Detroit are as good as those
anywhere. (Which is a sad symptom, but that is a different issue). YMMV,
of
course.

Regards,

Adam Smith,
Midland, ON, Canada

"HotRod" wrote in message
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Gunner because you have first hand knowledge of these lathes.

O.K. A stupid shop guy here. I've been hunting for a small lathe for
some time. Preferable something that has about a six foot, footprint.
And since I'm a novice just trying to repair some basic parts and turn
some basic parts. What would you recommend? I think shipping to Ontario
will be more of an issue than anything. Any chance someone wants to
house mine for free use until I can get a truck down there to pick it
up?




"Gunner" wrote in message
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On 28 Sep 2005 22:55:20 -0700, wrote:

We purchased a bunch of lathes this last week and now have lathes from
$250. to $10,000. Sure the cheaper ones need some work to bring them
up
to snuff but they are all American or British and parts are available.
Two of the lathes are rare long bed SBL's so you pool cue guys pay
attention.
9" SBL on factory cabinet
9" SBL long bed on factory cabinet
10" SBL long bed light duty on factory cabinet
10" SBL heavy on hairpin legs, well tooled
10" EMCO Maier very late
11" Clausing Colchester nice
11" Logan table model rough
12" Clausing on factory stand- older
13" Harrison AA Nice!
13" Harrison M300 w/ tracer Nice!
13" Clausing/ Colchester needs ways reground Cheap!
15" LeBlond Superb!
17" Clausing Colchester Cheap!
These lathes are in Costa Mesa, CA. Call (949) 645-7601 or Email me.
Please don't ask for pictures and specs on all of them. Reasonable
requests will be aced on promptly. I will be out of town all next
week.
Leigh

I reviewed some of these machines today. Some pretty nice stuff in
there.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner











Mike Young October 1st 05 12:07 AM


"HotRod" wrote in message
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Believe it or not I actually am a computer user but how the heck do I
specify the "Manufacturing-Metalworking_Metalworking-Equipment Lathe "
category under advanced search. I know I'll figure it out about 2 sec.
after I send this but HELP


He means on ebay.


Adam Smith October 1st 05 06:38 PM

Sorry, that was a short form for the full category, you have to navigate to
the category interactively. I'll describe the steps, you probably don't need
this level of detail, but no matter, maybe some lurker does:

- Navigate to http://www.ebay.com/
- If you have an account, sign in, if not create one
- On the left of the opening page there is a Categories list, go to the link
for Business and Industrial
- On the Bus & Ind page navigate to the "Metalworking Equipment" link under
"Manfacturing Metal Working"
- On the left under Categories there is a link for Lathes
- Click on Advanced Search
- Halfway down the page there is a checkbox for distance search, check it as
well as either Items within (your choice 200? 250? 500? miles: 250 is a day
trip for me, 500 is overnight once you factor in rigging) and your choice of
postal code or city. Click Search
- Add the result to your "Favourite Searches" using the link in the top
right of the page

If you haven't done much rigging, I'd add the additional advice to my
previous post: be careful!, think it through!, ideally, get experienced
help, though I started without that benefit.

And while the gratuitous advice is flowing (and cheap at twice the price!):
the one way you could mess yourself up on a first purchase (besides falling
in love with a piece and bidding like a crazy person): be careful not to buy
a second operation lathe (no thread cutting), an automatic (Swiss machine or
"Brownie"), or other speciallized manufacturing piece. You want an engine
lathe, or tool room, or "bench lathe" or similarly described item. Hardinge
have a beautiful tool room second ops lathe (I forget the model), no
threading. Somebody will chime in with the Hardinge tool room model that
does threading (you won't be able to afford them, probably), and the one
that doesn't do threading (you'll be able to afford them, but shouldn't).
Might be safest to run make and model of any piece that you intend to bid on
by the folks here, for a while. Till you get to know what is out there.

Regards, and Good Luck,

Adam Smith
Midland, ON, Canada

"HotRod" wrote in message
...
Believe it or not I actually am a computer user but how the heck do I
specify the "Manufacturing-Metalworking_Metalworking-Equipment Lathe "
category under advanced search. I know I'll figure it out about 2 sec.
after I send this but HELP



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HotRod October 4th 05 05:22 PM

OPINIONS?
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ADME:B:SS:CA:1

remember this is a first Lathe, should I wait for one with tooling?



Adam Smith October 5th 05 01:56 PM

Well you do get a three jaw and a couple of driver plates, so at least you
can get started. You will want a 4 jaw as well. They don't say whether there
is a center with it, or what the center is. I think it will be a standard
size morse, so you should be ok buying one, if necessary. You might ask the
vendor if there is a center included, though.

Maybe just a bit smaller than I'd prefer for an only lathe, but a hell of a
lot more than the 7" chinese that Rex was advocating as a starter. If its
large enough to turn the work you have planned, it should be nice. You'd get
a better buy if you go for something larger, I'm pretty sure that the one
you're looking at will go for quite a bit more than the current bid, small
stuff always brings a premium, because of all the people wanting to put the
lathe in the basement. Of course getting something substantially bigger
would substantially increase the task of rigging and hauling.

5000 sq feet of shop space sounds nice, what are you planning on making?

I only spent a bit of time on a South Bend, and it was a long time ago.
Hopefully one of the South Bend people will chime in with a more informed
opinion. It would be interesting to know whether this is a "heavy 10" or a
"standard 10", I believe SB did both. I think Jim Rozen is running a Heavy
10, Jim what do you think of Hot Rod's candidate?

Adam Smith
Midland, ON

"HotRod" wrote in message
...
OPINIONS?
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ADME:B:SS:CA:1

remember this is a first Lathe, should I wait for one with tooling?




Adam Smith October 5th 05 01:57 PM

I'm assuming you noted the three phase power, and that is not an issue? Will
the shop have 3 phase, are you planning a rotary converter, or a VFD?

Adam

"HotRod" wrote in message
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OPINIONS?
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ADME:B:SS:CA:1

remember this is a first Lathe, should I wait for one with tooling?




Adam Smith October 13th 05 09:42 PM

FS - A lathe for all budgets
 
If you are still looking for a lathe, I think this one looks pretty nice:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=7553564762

"HotRod" wrote in message
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OPINIONS?
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ADME:B:SS:CA:1

remember this is a first Lathe, should I wait for one with tooling?




Gunner October 14th 05 10:25 AM

FS - A lathe for all budgets
 
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:42:36 -0400, "Adam Smith"
wrote:

If you are still looking for a lathe, I think this one looks pretty nice:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=7553564762

"HotRod" wrote in message
...
OPINIONS?
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ADME:B:SS:CA:1

remember this is a first Lathe, should I wait for one with tooling?


This looks like a very nice lathe..though a bit short between centers
for my personal taste.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner


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