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Shon Shampain September 27th 05 12:51 PM

Work hardened?
 
I was working a thin (3mm) piece of aluminum plate with a rotating disc
on a hand drill. On the disc was a cutout of scotchbrite. *All of a
sudden* the aluminum went from having beautifully fine arcing scratch
marks to this hard marble orange peely crap. I assume that *something I
did was wrong* and that the work is now "work-hardened"?

If so, or not, how would I prevent such a thing? Is it a matter of use,
speed, heat, or what? And how can I remove it from the piece I have.

As always TIA.

Nick Müller September 27th 05 01:17 PM

Shon Shampain wrote:

I assume that *something I did was wrong* and that the work is now
"work-hardened"?


The pad got to hot and melted?


Nick
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http://www.motor-manufaktur.de

[email protected] September 27th 05 01:55 PM

Any chance the pad loaded up with galled aluminum, so that you were
basically trying to polish aluminum *with* aluminum?

Abrade or machine it flat and start over...


Shon Shampain September 27th 05 03:15 PM

wrote:
Any chance the pad loaded up with galled aluminum, so that you were
basically trying to polish aluminum *with* aluminum?

Abrade or machine it flat and start over...


I think that is exactly what is happening, as I have seen this exact
behavior with normal abrasive discs as well. And I know they clog up
readily, as the splotch of aluminum is hard to miss. I suspect that if
I include a cleaning step every pass, the problem may disappear.

Eric R Snow September 27th 05 04:18 PM

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:51:10 +0200, Shon Shampain
wrote:

I was working a thin (3mm) piece of aluminum plate with a rotating disc
on a hand drill. On the disc was a cutout of scotchbrite. *All of a
sudden* the aluminum went from having beautifully fine arcing scratch
marks to this hard marble orange peely crap. I assume that *something I
did was wrong* and that the work is now "work-hardened"?

If so, or not, how would I prevent such a thing? Is it a matter of use,
speed, heat, or what? And how can I remove it from the piece I have.

As always TIA.

You are trying to abrade aluminum oxide. It's hard. Clean the
scotcbrite or use new. Use some kind of cutting lubricant. Kerosene,
WD-40, light cutting oil, wax etc.
ERS

Tim Killian September 27th 05 09:46 PM

Another thought - try using the silicon carbide grades of Scotchbrite.
They cost a bit more but you will be hitting the surface with a grit
that's harder than the aluminum oxide coat already there.

Eric R Snow wrote:
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:51:10 +0200, Shon Shampain
wrote:


I was working a thin (3mm) piece of aluminum plate with a rotating disc
on a hand drill. On the disc was a cutout of scotchbrite. *All of a
sudden* the aluminum went from having beautifully fine arcing scratch
marks to this hard marble orange peely crap. I assume that *something I
did was wrong* and that the work is now "work-hardened"?

If so, or not, how would I prevent such a thing? Is it a matter of use,
speed, heat, or what? And how can I remove it from the piece I have.

As always TIA.


You are trying to abrade aluminum oxide. It's hard. Clean the
scotcbrite or use new. Use some kind of cutting lubricant. Kerosene,
WD-40, light cutting oil, wax etc.
ERS


Bob May September 28th 05 06:44 PM

Using SiC really doesn't help at all because just as soon as the aluminum
starts sticking to it, you end up with the same problem. The only thing to
do is to use a lubricant to keep the aluminum from attaching itself to the
abrasive and thus cause the problem.

--
Why do penguins walk so far to get to their nesting grounds?



Tim Killian September 28th 05 07:12 PM

A little dish soap + water avoids that problem when blending aluminum
panels. We've found in our process that SC pads last longer and yield a
better finish than AO pads.

Bob May wrote:
Using SiC really doesn't help at all because just as soon as the aluminum
starts sticking to it, you end up with the same problem. The only thing to
do is to use a lubricant to keep the aluminum from attaching itself to the
abrasive and thus cause the problem.

--
Why do penguins walk so far to get to their nesting grounds?



Harold and Susan Vordos September 29th 05 04:22 AM


"Tim Killian" wrote in message
...
A little dish soap + water avoids that problem when blending aluminum
panels. We've found in our process that SC pads last longer and yield a
better finish than AO pads.


It's commonly accepted that silicon carbide is the abrasive of choice for
sanding or grinding aluminum.

Harold




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