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[email protected] September 10th 05 05:13 PM

drop forged/pressed steel ?
 
Hello,

Does anyone know what is the difference between drop forged and pressed
steel (for scaffold couplers)? I mean what is the difference in the
manufacturing process?

Thanks


Christopher Tidy September 10th 05 05:21 PM

wrote:
Hello,

Does anyone know what is the difference between drop forged and pressed
steel (for scaffold couplers)? I mean what is the difference in the
manufacturing process?

Thanks


Forging means that you take a lump of red hot steel and pound it under a
shaped hammer (called a "die") until it is the right shape. A pressed
steel coupler will be made from pieces of steel sheet which are formed
in a press at room temperature and then (probably) welded together. I
would guess that the forged couplers will be stronger. Forgings are
usually very strong because of the alignment of the grains in the metal.

Chris


[email protected] September 10th 05 09:45 PM

So what does the "drop" mean?

Peter


DoN. Nichols September 10th 05 10:03 PM

According to :
So what does the "drop" mean?


The upper part of the die, a "striker" is quite massive, and is
raised under power, and then released, letting gravity do the job. This
has the advantage that if something is thicker than expected, and can't
be crushed all the way, you don't wind up breaking gearing inside the
system -- the striker just *stops*.

You could even raise it with a hand-cranked system, and release
it by pulling out a pin or something similar. It would just be a lot
slower that way, so you would have to put the workpiece back on to heat
every time you start cranking the striker to its "cocked" position.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Pete Keillor September 10th 05 10:41 PM

On 10 Sep 2005 21:03:47 GMT, (DoN. Nichols)
wrote:

According to :
So what does the "drop" mean?


The upper part of the die, a "striker" is quite massive, and is
raised under power, and then released, letting gravity do the job. This
has the advantage that if something is thicker than expected, and can't
be crushed all the way, you don't wind up breaking gearing inside the
system -- the striker just *stops*.

You could even raise it with a hand-cranked system, and release
it by pulling out a pin or something similar. It would just be a lot
slower that way, so you would have to put the workpiece back on to heat
every time you start cranking the striker to its "cocked" position.

Enjoy,
DoN.


Hmmm. Dad rigged something like that once. However, it sucked for
its intended use. He rigged up a trip to drop one of our levee
rollers from the winch truck with the idea of flattening some old cars
for the junkman. The trip just had a notch to hold the chain around
the spool, and a 3' handle welded to it with a long rope. He winched
up the roller, backed it over our old Travelall, and then dropped the
roller (concrete spool about 2 tons). The car wrapped around that
thing like a coke can stuck on your heel. It took quite a while to
cut it loose.

Pete Keillor

Leo Lichtman September 11th 05 03:26 AM


"Christopher Tidy" .(clip) I would guess that the forged couplers will be
stronger. Forgings are usually very strong because of the alignment of the
grains in the metal.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Another reason forgings are generally stronger is that the dies can be
shaped so that the metal varies in thickness as needed for strength.
Reinforcing webs and radii can be designed in, to reduce stress, increase
stiffness and improve fatigue life. In a stamping, the dies can stretch the
material, making it thinner, but they can't make it thick and strong next to
a hub, for example.



Bob May September 11th 05 11:36 AM

Remember Junkyard Wars? There was an episode on curshing a car to a
particular height and one of the teams built a drop hammeer setup for doing
this and they won. The other team build a press and it broke several times.

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