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David Billington August 8th 05 05:36 PM

Yet another mystery tool
 
I was given this tool some years ago by a machinist specialising in gears and splines that didn't know what it was.
I thought it might be of some use on a mill but haven't used it yet.
The tool was manufactured by the Monarch Tool Company Ltd, Kirkheaton, Huddersfield, UK.
Internet searchs found no reference to the company.
The tailstock is spring loaded and when the headstock spindle is rotated anti-clockwise as
you look from the tailstock moves towards the tailstock. It sit on a graduated swivelling base.

http://metalworking.com/DropBox/monarchmysterytool.txt
http://metalworking.com/DropBox/monarchmysterytool.jpg

Any thoughts as to what its purpose is would be appreciated.


Tom Gardner August 8th 05 05:56 PM


"David Billington" wrote in message
...
I was given this tool some years ago by a machinist specialising in gears
and splines that didn't know what it was. I thought it might be of some use
on a mill but haven't used it yet. The tool was manufactured by the Monarch
Tool Company Ltd, Kirkheaton, Huddersfield, UK.
Internet searchs found no reference to the company.
The tailstock is spring loaded and when the headstock spindle is rotated
anti-clockwise as you look from the tailstock moves towards the tailstock.
It sit on a graduated swivelling base.
http://metalworking.com/DropBox/monarchmysterytool.txt
http://metalworking.com/DropBox/monarchmysterytool.jpg

Any thoughts as to what its purpose is would be appreciated.


It is the prototype for this:
http://www.metalworking.com/DropBox/cat.jpg

I am the exclusive supplier in the US...Visa / MC accepted!



David Billington August 8th 05 06:06 PM

Due to the weight and complexity I think not but you might be on the
right lines. It may be for bench mounting the cat for when you want to
wash and manicure it. The swivelling base should allow you to stay put
and just rotate the cat.

Tom Gardner wrote:

"David Billington" wrote in message
k...

I was given this tool some years ago by a machinist specialising in gears
and splines that didn't know what it was. I thought it might be of some use
on a mill but haven't used it yet. The tool was manufactured by the Monarch
Tool Company Ltd, Kirkheaton, Huddersfield, UK.
Internet searchs found no reference to the company.
The tailstock is spring loaded and when the headstock spindle is rotated
anti-clockwise as you look from the tailstock moves towards the tailstock.
It sit on a graduated swivelling base.
http://metalworking.com/DropBox/monarchmysterytool.txt
http://metalworking.com/DropBox/monarchmysterytool.jpg

Any thoughts as to what its purpose is would be appreciated.


It is the prototype for this:
http://www.metalworking.com/DropBox/cat.jpg

I am the exclusive supplier in the US...Visa / MC accepted!




Jon Elson August 8th 05 06:13 PM

David Billington wrote:
I was given this tool some years ago by a machinist specialising in
gears and splines that didn't know what it was. I thought it might be of
some use on a mill but haven't used it yet. The tool was manufactured by
the Monarch Tool Company Ltd, Kirkheaton, Huddersfield, UK.
Internet searchs found no reference to the company.
The tailstock is spring loaded and when the headstock spindle is rotated
anti-clockwise as you look from the tailstock moves towards the
tailstock. It sit on a graduated swivelling base.
http://metalworking.com/DropBox/monarchmysterytool.txt
http://metalworking.com/DropBox/monarchmysterytool.jpg

Any thoughts as to what its purpose is would be appreciated.


Well, other humorous replies aside, it looks a lot like a miniature
cylindrical grinder that can be attached to a mill table, or possibly
in place of a lathe compound. The "headstock" looks like it might
have an indexing gearbox. Does it have changeable gears in the box?
If so, and it moves in two axes at once (rotation plus axial travel)
then it sure sounds like it is for cutting helical gears.

As for Monarch, this was a celebrated maker of lathes and other machine
tools. The Ltd may refer to a British branch, as I think Monarch
was a US brand. The logo appears the same as the machine tool logo.

Jon


JohnM August 8th 05 09:17 PM

Tom Gardner wrote:
"David Billington" wrote in message
...

I was given this tool some years ago by a machinist specialising in gears
and splines that didn't know what it was. I thought it might be of some use
on a mill but haven't used it yet. The tool was manufactured by the Monarch
Tool Company Ltd, Kirkheaton, Huddersfield, UK.
Internet searchs found no reference to the company.
The tailstock is spring loaded and when the headstock spindle is rotated
anti-clockwise as you look from the tailstock moves towards the tailstock.
It sit on a graduated swivelling base.
http://metalworking.com/DropBox/monarchmysterytool.txt
http://metalworking.com/DropBox/monarchmysterytool.jpg

Any thoughts as to what its purpose is would be appreciated.



It is the prototype for this:
http://www.metalworking.com/DropBox/cat.jpg

I am the exclusive supplier in the US...Visa / MC accepted!


I think I need one with a hex headed screw instead of the wimpy handle,
then I could use a breaker bar and pipe.. or maybe an impact wrench.

John

Larry Jaques August 8th 05 09:50 PM

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 15:17:13 -0400, the opaque JohnM
clearly wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote:
It is the prototype for this:
http://www.metalworking.com/DropBox/cat.jpg

I am the exclusive supplier in the US...Visa / MC accepted!


I think I need one with a hex headed screw instead of the wimpy handle,
then I could use a breaker bar and pipe.. or maybe an impact wrench.


Whassamatta? You got a tight-assed cat?


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Impeach 'em ALL!
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Roger Shoaf August 8th 05 10:51 PM

My guess is this is a spring winding lathe. The lack of ways and a cross
slide suggest this was never meant to do anything but turn. Also the head
stock seems to be a gear reduction box, and the bearings look like they are
lubricated with grease via zirks.

I am curious what you mean by:

The tailstock is spring loaded and when the headstock spindle is rotated

anti-clockwise as
you look from the tailstock moves towards the tailstock.



--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

"David Billington" wrote in message
...
I was given this tool some years ago by a machinist specialising in gears

and splines that didn't know what it was.
I thought it might be of some use on a mill but haven't used it yet.
The tool was manufactured by the Monarch Tool Company Ltd, Kirkheaton,

Huddersfield, UK.
Internet searchs found no reference to the company.
The tailstock is spring loaded and when the headstock spindle is rotated

anti-clockwise as
you look from the tailstock moves towards the tailstock. It sit on a

graduated swivelling base.

http://metalworking.com/DropBox/monarchmysterytool.txt
http://metalworking.com/DropBox/monarchmysterytool.jpg

Any thoughts as to what its purpose is would be appreciated.




Marc August 8th 05 11:17 PM

Tom Gardner wrote:
"David Billington" wrote in message
...

I was given this tool some years ago by a machinist specialising in gears
and splines that didn't know what it was. I thought it might be of some use
on a mill but haven't used it yet. The tool was manufactured by the Monarch
Tool Company Ltd, Kirkheaton, Huddersfield, UK.
Internet searchs found no reference to the company.
The tailstock is spring loaded and when the headstock spindle is rotated
anti-clockwise as you look from the tailstock moves towards the tailstock.
It sit on a graduated swivelling base.
http://metalworking.com/DropBox/monarchmysterytool.txt
http://metalworking.com/DropBox/monarchmysterytool.jpg

Any thoughts as to what its purpose is would be appreciated.



It is the prototype for this:
http://www.metalworking.com/DropBox/cat.jpg

I am the exclusive supplier in the US...Visa / MC accepted!


ROFLMAO
Aye
Marc

JohnM August 9th 05 12:31 AM

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 15:17:13 -0400, the opaque JohnM
clearly wrote:


Tom Gardner wrote:

It is the prototype for this:
http://www.metalworking.com/DropBox/cat.jpg

I am the exclusive supplier in the US...Visa / MC accepted!


I think I need one with a hex headed screw instead of the wimpy handle,
then I could use a breaker bar and pipe.. or maybe an impact wrench.



Whassamatta? You got a tight-assed cat?



Um.. well, I can't comment on his ass, but he sure is a little *******.
He did catch a mouse in the house yesterday, so I guess I'll not use the
impact for now..

John

Mungo Bulge August 9th 05 02:18 AM

This man should be able to tell you.
George Bower, California
http://ichuddersfield.icnetwork.co.u...C%20California

Why? He worked for the company in Kirkheaton.


--
The Road Warrior Hobbit


"David Billington" wrote in message
...
|I was given this tool some years ago by a machinist specialising in
gears and splines that didn't know what it was.
| I thought it might be of some use on a mill but haven't used it yet.
| The tool was manufactured by the Monarch Tool Company Ltd,
Kirkheaton, Huddersfield, UK.
| Internet searchs found no reference to the company.
| The tailstock is spring loaded and when the headstock spindle is
rotated anti-clockwise as
| you look from the tailstock moves towards the tailstock. It sit on a
graduated swivelling base.
|
| http://metalworking.com/DropBox/monarchmysterytool.txt
| http://metalworking.com/DropBox/monarchmysterytool.jpg
|
| Any thoughts as to what its purpose is would be appreciated.
|



David Billington August 9th 05 01:04 PM

Unfortunately the page about Mr Bower appears for about 1 second on my
browser and is then refreshed to display a short set of links to other
subjects. The other site pages generally seem to do the same thing. I'll
see if I can view on another system.

Mungo Bulge wrote:

This man should be able to tell you.
George Bower, California
http://ichuddersfield.icnetwork.co.u...C%20California

Why? He worked for the company in Kirkheaton.




David Billington August 9th 05 01:10 PM

What can't be seen in the picture is a pin protruding from the front
face of the headstock so the maximum rotation is about 350 degrees.
Currently it restricted to about 60 due to an internal component
catching. I have taken the side plates off and the knob on top is
attached to a ring which is around the main spindle but not attached to
it. On the spindle is an arm holding a track roller bearing which is
spring loaded to run against the ring. This would control how much
forward movement is given when the spindle is rotated. When I have
disassembled it further I shall post some more detailed pics.

Roger Shoaf wrote:

My guess is this is a spring winding lathe. The lack of ways and a cross
slide suggest this was never meant to do anything but turn. Also the head
stock seems to be a gear reduction box, and the bearings look like they are
lubricated with grease via zirks.

I am curious what you mean by:

The tailstock is spring loaded and when the headstock spindle is rotated

anti-clockwise as

you look from the tailstock moves towards the tailstock.





jtaylor August 9th 05 01:21 PM


"David Billington" wrote in message
...
Unfortunately the page about Mr Bower appears for about 1 second on my
browser and is then refreshed to display a short set of links to other
subjects. The other site pages generally seem to do the same thing. I'll
see if I can view on another system.


The last line of the article is:

"George's e-mail address is "



David Billington August 9th 05 02:08 PM

Thanks i'll email him.

jtaylor wrote:

"David Billington" wrote in message
k...

Unfortunately the page about Mr Bower appears for about 1 second on my
browser and is then refreshed to display a short set of links to other
subjects. The other site pages generally seem to do the same thing. I'll
see if I can view on another system.


The last line of the article is:

"George's e-mail address is "




David Billington August 9th 05 02:31 PM

The mail was returned, user unknown. Will have to hope someone else
appears that knows.

David Billington wrote:

Thanks i'll email him.

jtaylor wrote:

"David Billington" wrote in message
...

Unfortunately the page about Mr Bower appears for about 1 second on my
browser and is then refreshed to display a short set of links to other
subjects. The other site pages generally seem to do the same thing.
I'll
see if I can view on another system.


The last line of the article is:

"George's e-mail address is "





wws August 9th 05 07:46 PM

David Billington wrote:

The mail was returned, user unknown. Will have to hope someone else
appears that knows.

David Billington wrote:

Thanks i'll email him.

jtaylor wrote:

"David Billington" wrote in message
...

Unfortunately the page about Mr Bower appears for about 1 second on my
browser and is then refreshed to display a short set of links to other
subjects. The other site pages generally seem to do the same thing.
I'll
see if I can view on another system.


The last line of the article is:

"George's e-mail address is "




Looks munged.
budandjean ?


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