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Uses for a hydraulic press?
I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project
and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. -- A7N8X-Deluxe, AMD XP2500+ (Un-locked) 2x256mb Crucial PC3200 DDR ram Palit-Daytona Ti4200/64M AGP |
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SomeBody wrote:
I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Tonight I used mine to straighten a (fixed) caster which had been overloaded so the forks had bent over to one side. Easy as pie. I also have recently used mine to press things together and also apart. My father-in-law brought over a piece of his tractor mower guard which is bent badly. It's made of quite heavy gauge sheet metal, and I'll use the press to straighten it. I envision using it to straighten out warpage when butt welding two flat bars which I want to stay flat. If the weld warps, I'll straighten it using the press. Some guys make press brakes and punches from hydraulic presses. I might do that too. GWE |
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I haven't seen a decent low buck punch setup for a small hydraulic press
but various press brake items work well. A commercial version at http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...6&storeId=6970 You can make a simple version with 2 pieces of round stock welded to a base plate abut 1 diameter apart, use a third rod backed up with a chunk of bar stock for the top half. Bar should be about 2x or more of the thickness of the material to be bent SomeBody wrote: I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. |
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SomeBody wrote:
I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. Pushing pins in or out of holes. Or collars on or off of pins. |
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 04:22:33 GMT, SomeBody
wrote: I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. Making odd metric Phillips-head screws (like the one that holds the brake disc on a Rabbit) when the carparts store is closed. Make the screw on the lathe, make a conical hole in the head with a center drill. Press a hard Phillips bit into the hole. Making copper washers for the banjo fittings in a fuel-injection system. Cut a short piece of copper tubing and mash it flat. Pressing out U-joint bearings. Remember to remove the clip first. The bearing will come out if you forget the clip, but it makes one hell of a bang when it does. Straightening the shaft of a trolling motor after a collision with a submerged rock. |
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"SomeBody" wrote in message news I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. Holding sheet material on a pattern when hammer forming by hand... With a little fixturing, materials/fasteners strength tests... |
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--Not quite what you asked, but I routinely use an ironworker to
stamp a logo in my parts.. -- "Steamboat Ed" Haas : My shop is open to Hacking the Trailing Edge! : visiting dog-nitaries... http://www.nmpproducts.com/intro.htm ---Decks a-wash in a sea of words--- |
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Ernie Leimkuhler has built what you are proposing.
http://www.stagesmith.com/gallery/sh...ess/index.html Should be a good starting point, at least. Cheers, Kelley On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 04:22:33 GMT, SomeBody wrote: I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. |
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Sometimes works good as a really big, really powerful vise.
Don Young "SomeBody" wrote in message news I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. -- A7N8X-Deluxe, AMD XP2500+ (Un-locked) 2x256mb Crucial PC3200 DDR ram Palit-Daytona Ti4200/64M AGP |
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Don Foreman wrote:
On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 04:22:33 GMT, SomeBody wrote: I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. Making odd metric Phillips-head screws (like the one that holds the brake disc on a Rabbit) when the carparts store is closed. Make the screw on the lathe, make a conical hole in the head with a center drill. Press a hard Phillips bit into the hole. Making copper washers for the banjo fittings in a fuel-injection system. Cut a short piece of copper tubing and mash it flat. Hey, I like that one. A hydraulic press is useful for straightening your motorcycle forks too. Pressing out U-joint bearings. Remember to remove the clip first. The bearing will come out if you forget the clip, but it makes one hell of a bang when it does. Straightening the shaft of a trolling motor after a collision with a submerged rock. |
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If you have any artistic inclinations, poke around on
http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/ to see some possible applications of a press. Bert SomeBody wrote: I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. |
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On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:16:10 GMT, Bert wrote:
If you have any artistic inclinations, poke around on http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/ to see some possible applications of a press. Bert SomeBody wrote: I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. Just out of curiosity..what makes this worth $800 plus dollars? http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/...20tonMDS.shtml Gunner |
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Gunner wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:16:10 GMT, Bert wrote: If you have any artistic inclinations, poke around on http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/ to see some possible applications of a press. Bert SomeBody wrote: I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. Just out of curiosity..what makes this worth $800 plus dollars? http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/...20tonMDS.shtml Gunner The fact that most artistic metalsmith types aren't aware that places such as Harbor Freight, Northern Tool, etc. exist? I suppose there is some value to it's small physical size, not reason to take up the space of a 20T floor press if all you do is small stuff. I think they also add a pressure gauge on some so you can keep track of the force exerted. Pete C. |
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Pete C. wrote:
Gunner wrote: On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:16:10 GMT, Bert wrote: If you have any artistic inclinations, poke around on http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/ to see some possible applications of a press. Bert SomeBody wrote: I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. Just out of curiosity..what makes this worth $800 plus dollars? http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/...20tonMDS.shtml Gunner The fact that most artistic metalsmith types aren't aware that places such as Harbor Freight, Northern Tool, etc. exist? I suppose there is some value to it's small physical size, not reason to take up the space of a 20T floor press if all you do is small stuff. I think they also add a pressure gauge on some so you can keep track of the force exerted. Pete C. These artists are depending on these machines. A HF or NT won't cut it when making a 10,000 USD vase out of Sterling Silver. I have been in his shop - I used to live down hill (physical) from him in Ca. The presses are made there. Nice CNC operation and manual. Martin -- Martin Eastburn @ home at Lion's Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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I used mine to straighten the shaft on a hydraulic cylinder before
rechroming. Went from about 1/8 inch bend to a couple of thou, which was close enough. It's also great for destroying bearing cups when putting in universals. At least until I figured out the spiders were .050 too long for the yoke :-) I don't use mine every day, but it's darn handy when you need it. Paul |
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On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 22:00:31 -0500, "Martin H. Eastburn"
wrote: Pete C. wrote: Gunner wrote: On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:16:10 GMT, Bert wrote: If you have any artistic inclinations, poke around on http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/ to see some possible applications of a press. Bert SomeBody wrote: I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. Just out of curiosity..what makes this worth $800 plus dollars? http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/...20tonMDS.shtml Gunner The fact that most artistic metalsmith types aren't aware that places such as Harbor Freight, Northern Tool, etc. exist? I suppose there is some value to it's small physical size, not reason to take up the space of a 20T floor press if all you do is small stuff. I think they also add a pressure gauge on some so you can keep track of the force exerted. Pete C. These artists are depending on these machines. A HF or NT won't cut it when making a 10,000 USD vase out of Sterling Silver. I have been in his shop - I used to live down hill (physical) from him in Ca. The presses are made there. Nice CNC operation and manual. Martin He makes the bottle jacks? Gunner Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends of every country save their own. Benjamin Disraeli |
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Gunner wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 22:00:31 -0500, "Martin H. Eastburn" wrote: Pete C. wrote: Gunner wrote: On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:16:10 GMT, Bert wrote: If you have any artistic inclinations, poke around on http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/ to see some possible applications of a press. Bert SomeBody wrote: I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. Just out of curiosity..what makes this worth $800 plus dollars? http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/...20tonMDS.shtml Gunner The fact that most artistic metalsmith types aren't aware that places such as Harbor Freight, Northern Tool, etc. exist? I suppose there is some value to it's small physical size, not reason to take up the space of a 20T floor press if all you do is small stuff. I think they also add a pressure gauge on some so you can keep track of the force exerted. Pete C. These artists are depending on these machines. A HF or NT won't cut it when making a 10,000 USD vase out of Sterling Silver. I have been in his shop - I used to live down hill (physical) from him in Ca. The presses are made there. Nice CNC operation and manual. Martin He makes the bottle jacks? Gunner Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends of every country save their own. Benjamin Disraeli No those come from other sources. The fames and everything else (not pumps) are made in his shop. He has had bottle jack quality issue - but I think that has to be cleared by now. Martin -- Martin Eastburn @ home at Lion's Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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SomeBody wrote:
I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. I use mine quite a bit for pressing bearings. I built one out of scrap metal that does a good job. I needed it in a burry one day and built it in several hours. http://www.freakyacres.com/?p=press.php |
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On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:47:56 -0500, "Martin H. Eastburn"
wrote: Gunner wrote: On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 22:00:31 -0500, "Martin H. Eastburn" wrote: Pete C. wrote: Gunner wrote: On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:16:10 GMT, Bert wrote: If you have any artistic inclinations, poke around on http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/ to see some possible applications of a press. Bert SomeBody wrote: I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. Just out of curiosity..what makes this worth $800 plus dollars? http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/...20tonMDS.shtml Gunner The fact that most artistic metalsmith types aren't aware that places such as Harbor Freight, Northern Tool, etc. exist? I suppose there is some value to it's small physical size, not reason to take up the space of a 20T floor press if all you do is small stuff. I think they also add a pressure gauge on some so you can keep track of the force exerted. Pete C. These artists are depending on these machines. A HF or NT won't cut it when making a 10,000 USD vase out of Sterling Silver. I have been in his shop - I used to live down hill (physical) from him in Ca. The presses are made there. Nice CNC operation and manual. Martin He makes the bottle jacks? Gunner Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends of every country save their own. Benjamin Disraeli No those come from other sources. The fames and everything else (not pumps) are made in his shop. He has had bottle jack quality issue - but I think that has to be cleared by now. Martin Then what makes em worth $800+? Gunner |
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Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:47:56 -0500, "Martin H. Eastburn" wrote: Gunner wrote: On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 22:00:31 -0500, "Martin H. Eastburn" wrote: Pete C. wrote: Gunner wrote: On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:16:10 GMT, Bert wrote: If you have any artistic inclinations, poke around on http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/ to see some possible applications of a press. Bert SomeBody wrote: I'm about to move forward on a manually operated hydraulic press project and was wondering some of the things that can be performed with such a beast? Hole punching? metal bending? Know of any information out there that would be helpful? What about making your own dies? Thanks. Just out of curiosity..what makes this worth $800 plus dollars? http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/...20tonMDS.shtml Gunner The fact that most artistic metalsmith types aren't aware that places such as Harbor Freight, Northern Tool, etc. exist? I suppose there is some value to it's small physical size, not reason to take up the space of a 20T floor press if all you do is small stuff. I think they also add a pressure gauge on some so you can keep track of the force exerted. Pete C. These artists are depending on these machines. A HF or NT won't cut it when making a 10,000 USD vase out of Sterling Silver. I have been in his shop - I used to live down hill (physical) from him in Ca. The presses are made there. Nice CNC operation and manual. Martin He makes the bottle jacks? Gunner Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends of every country save their own. Benjamin Disraeli No those come from other sources. The fames and everything else (not pumps) are made in his shop. He has had bottle jack quality issue - but I think that has to be cleared by now. Martin Then what makes em worth $800+? Gunner They are heavy duty and have accurate position on some of it. Remember the business - pressing silver, gold, and other metals into cups, goblets..... Drawing that out requires precision that is an over and over after setup after setup. It is done in may stages IIRC. The stuff from Harbor etc are one time setup and placements. The jacks also leak early. There is a line of products that are aligned behind it as well. Those are my feelings - I don't know the specifics - not a parter or that close. He did or does read this group but is often very busy making material and taking trips to training classes he teaches. Martin -- Martin Eastburn @ home at Lion's Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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afdr9lk writes: I use mine quite a bit for pressing bearings. I built one out of scrap metal that does a good job. I needed it in a burry one day and built it in several hours. http://www.freakyacres.com/?p=press.php The 500 gallon lawn roller is interesting... http://www.freakyacres.com/?p=tanklawnroller.php |
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Ron Bean wrote:
afdr9lk writes: I use mine quite a bit for pressing bearings. I built one out of scrap metal that does a good job. I needed it in a burry one day and built it in several hours. http://www.freakyacres.com/?p=press.php The 500 gallon lawn roller is interesting... http://www.freakyacres.com/?p=tanklawnroller.php I looked at the 210 welding cart made - didn't understand the empty floor issue :-) Martin -- Martin Eastburn @ home at Lion's Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
Ron Bean wrote: afdr9lk writes: I use mine quite a bit for pressing bearings. I built one out of scrap metal that does a good job. I needed it in a burry one day and built it in several hours. http://www.freakyacres.com/?p=press.php The 500 gallon lawn roller is interesting... http://www.freakyacres.com/?p=tanklawnroller.php I looked at the 210 welding cart made - didn't understand the empty floor issue :-) Martin That was the inside of my garage not my shop! |
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afdr9lk wrote:
Martin H. Eastburn wrote: Ron Bean wrote: afdr9lk writes: I use mine quite a bit for pressing bearings. I built one out of scrap metal that does a good job. I needed it in a burry one day and built it in several hours. http://www.freakyacres.com/?p=press.php The 500 gallon lawn roller is interesting... http://www.freakyacres.com/?p=tanklawnroller.php I looked at the 210 welding cart made - didn't understand the empty floor issue :-) Martin That was the inside of my garage not my shop! Understand - this is our first house that doesn't have a shop in the Garage. Now the Garage is listed as a game room. - We never got used to using it as a cover for a car. :-) Martin [ who had a larger shop - but it is filling faster than I can work with ]. -- Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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