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1200 degree High heat spray paint stinks, literally
My old kitchen stove has a griddle in the middle, which I never use but
I use its cover as a work surface when I'm cooking, preparing food, etc. It's right between the burners and handy. Thing is, it's so old that the nickel plating (I THINK it's nickel) has mostly worn off and it looks awful. It stains, is rusted in places, etc. At first I thought I'd electroplate it and did a bunch of research on that but discarded the idea when I came to realize that it's not a simple thing to do and I'd have to deal with some pretty toxic chemicals. Someone in a newsgroup suggested using high heat resistant spray paint such as they use on car engines. I decided this was the way to go. I bought a can of Dupli-Color High Heat with Ceramic 1200 degree spray paint at Kragen Auto and finally got around to using it. Besides the griddle cover, there's the burner trays, which I also intend to paint. First, though, before tackling these, I decided to paint something less challenging to get the feel of spray painting with this stuff. I have a steel cookie sheet that I made myself from a discarded piece of thick plate steel (probably about 3/32 inch thick) I found a number of years ago. I never put food on this thing, but I keep it in the oven and put cookie sheets on top of it. It moderates the flow of heat to the cookie sheets, which are many times thinner than the plate beneath, and this prevents burning of cookies or whatever else I bake on the cookie sheets. This sheet is ordinary steel and it's always had a tendency to rust. So, I reasoned, if I can sand it smooth, I can paint it with this high heat spray paint and it will look nice and I won't get rust all over my hands every time I handle it. Besides that, it's good practice using this spray paint before I tackle the griddle cover, which I want to look nice. The paint itself is Aluminum color, "DH1606", which I figured would look reasonably like the rest of the stove top. This is an old O'Keefe and Merritt range probably from the mid-1950's. I sanded the steel sheet with my finishing sander and finished it with the high heat paint and it looks nice, but it still smells when it heat it to around 400 degrees. I think it starts to stink at around 300. Not only that, but at these temperatures, it seems to be very prone to scratch. That doesn't bother me so much as the smell, which is not nice. I suppose I can remove it with paint remover and go to plan B. What might plan B be??? I figure that the griddle cover might not get so hot (probably won't) that it will stink, even when I use the oven under it, but I suppose that spraying the burner trays with this stuff isn't a good idea. They will probably get fairly hot sometimes and stink up the place when I'm using the burners. Thanks much for any help. Dan |
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1200 degree High heat spray paint stinks, literally
Thanks much for any help. Dan best bet is to throw the stove out and get a new one... the paint that you have on there will give you headaches if you breath it and possible lung damage...... |
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1200 degree High heat spray paint stinks, literally
Dan: Bake your painted articles in your barbeque grill for a couple of hours at
the high heat setting. This will bake off that nasty smell and make things tolerable. |
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1200 degree High heat spray paint stinks, literally
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 18:49:58 -0500, "
wrote: : : Thanks much for any help. : : Dan :best bet is to throw the stove out and get a new one... the paint that :you have on there will give you headaches if you breath it and possible :lung damage...... When I bought my new refrigerator a couple years ago I looked at the ranges they were selling, and they had a lot of them, including high end kitchen stuff and some professional ranges (some small) for restaurants. I wasn't impressed. Most of the new stuff is small and doesn't have a preparation surface like this stove has. It doesn't look great, but if I can paint or coat those pieces it's be OK for me for a while. Whether or not the fumes from this paint are bad for me is an issue I should look into, possibly, but it's hard for me to believe they'd sell this paint for high temperature applications if it were that dangerous. No headaches so far... |
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1200 degree High heat spray paint stinks, literally
If you can't get the stink out of the paint, how about using a piece of
stainless for the griddle cover? |
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1200 degree High heat spray paint stinks, literally
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:43:23 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote: :If you can't get the stink out of the paint, how about using a piece of :stainless for the griddle cover? Well, it would have to fit and that's the problem. This thing has rounded corners, maybe with around a one inch radius, and it's turned down 90 degrees all the way around. I don't think there's any way I could fashion the stainless plate to the needed configuration. |
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1200 degree High heat spray paint stinks, literally
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:13:22 -0700, "Bob May"
wrote: :The paint needs curing and that takes a while at high temps. The stuff does :stink a lot at the beginning and will eventually stop but it does want a :fair bit of high temp time to get there. Header paint takes quite a few :hours to finally stop its outgassing but much of that time it is kind of :minimal and is acceptable on a set of headers. In the house, it may be bad :smelling for a lot longer so do a good bake outside in the barbecue or other :good heat source. I'll also note that the higher temp, the faster the smell :goes away. :For the griddle in the stove, I'd really suggest that you just take it to a :chroming shop and have them nickel plate it again. This is just the first :two steps of the chroming process so it will be a little cheaper (maybe $10) :than a full chrome process and if you get the polish to where you want it :before you give it to them and tell them not to polish it up anymore, that :will probably save more. In addition, you may want to have a extra thick :nickel but that is something that you may want to talk to the chrome plater :about. Definitely something to consider. I think now that the griddle cover will be OK in terms of smell if I bake it in the oven at 575 degrees an hour or two, which I did today to the in-oven sheet and I have a feeling that took care of the smell. It didn't smell that way after an hour or so. My biggest concern, I guess, is just that it will eventually get scratched up. Maybe I'll go in a shop or two and ask them what they would charge before painting the stove top stuff. Thanks for the ideas. Dan |
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On Thursday, August 21, 2003 at 3:32:44 PM UTC+2, Dan Musicant wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:41:52 GMT, Dan Musicant wrote: :On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:13:22 -0700, "Bob May" :wrote: : ::The paint needs curing and that takes a while at high temps. The stuff does ::stink a lot at the beginning and will eventually stop but it does want a ::fair bit of high temp time to get there. Header paint takes quite a few ::hours to finally stop its outgassing but much of that time it is kind of ::minimal and is acceptable on a set of headers. In the house, it may be bad ::smelling for a lot longer so do a good bake outside in the barbecue or other ::good heat source. I'll also note that the higher temp, the faster the smell ::goes away. ::For the griddle in the stove, I'd really suggest that you just take it to a ::chroming shop and have them nickel plate it again. This is just the first ::two steps of the chroming process so it will be a little cheaper (maybe $10) ::than a full chrome process and if you get the polish to where you want it ::before you give it to them and tell them not to polish it up anymore, that ::will probably save more. In addition, you may want to have a extra thick ::nickel but that is something that you may want to talk to the chrome plater ::about. : efinitely something to consider. I think now that the griddle cover :will be OK in terms of smell if I bake it in the oven at 575 degrees an :hour or two, which I did today to the in-oven sheet and I have a feeling :that took care of the smell. It didn't smell that way after an hour or :so. My biggest concern, I guess, is just that it will eventually get :scratched up. Maybe I'll go in a shop or two and ask them what they :would charge before painting the stove top stuff. : :Thanks for the ideas. : an It still smells a little, but not much. Way less than even a few days ago and it's not that objectionable. I figure that smell will eventually go away or I'll stop noticing it... Thanks for this thread and information! very useful info! I had the same issue applying heat resistant engine paint to cooking pots and pans. |
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