I just made a two headed nickel.
I used a soft 5c collet and bored it to hold the nickel.
Then I made two nickels bored out to .800 dia x .036
deep.[ Half of coin.]
Then I faced and turned a piece of stock to .800 then
I put the bored out coin over the turned dia. Then I
used a live center pushing a bushing against coin to
drive it. Took light cuts about .01 and turned it to
..800 bore size. then I pressed coin slug into the bored piece
and ended up with two headed nickel with no seam showing.
Worked great.
Jim
Have pics if anyone interested.

Didn't say it was an American nickel. grin.
"Dav1936531" wrote in message
...
From: "jim"
3f3b19f2_3@newsfeed

I just made a two headed nickel.
Jim
Have pics if anyone interested.

The Treasury agents will be over for a visit momentarily.
Dave

"Richard J Kinch" wrote in message
. ..
David A. Webb writes:

Isn't it perfectly legal to destroy/mutulate currency as long as you
don't try to put it back into circulation?

Mutilation was an issue only when coins had silver or gold in them.

That may be true stateside, but in the UK defacing the coinage is a criminal
offence iirc

Andrew

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 22:12:52 -0700,
jim wrote
in Msg. 3f3b19f2_3@newsfeed

Have pics if anyone interested.

I'd like to see some because I didn't really understand the process.

--Daniel

--
"With me is nothing wrong! And with you?" (from r.a.m.p)

Jon Anderson wrote:

There was a bit on TV some time back about a guy that does this.
Defacing currency was brought up, and it seems there's some provision
for making novelty coins as long as they are not used for gambling or
other illegal purposes. I made several two headed nickels back in the
70's. Over time, most have accidentally slipped away. (how often do you
check both sides of a coin before forking it over at the register...G)

Jon

Interesting stuff he
http://home.earthlink.net/~smalldoll...ar/add005.html

~D

Richard J Kinch wrote:

David A. Webb writes:

Isn't it perfectly legal to destroy/mutulate currency as long as you
don't try to put it back into circulation?

Mutilation was an issue only when coins had silver or gold in them.

AFAIK that's the reason for the milled edges on some coins. Sharp cookies
used to shave the outside diameters of gold and silver coins with a sharp
knife. They could create quite a little pile of gold dust for themselves
that way. Milling the edges made the "skinning" obvious, and you could
refuse to accept a coin for that reason.

Jeff


--
Jeff Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)

"If you can keep smiling when things go wrong, you've thought of someone
to place the blame on."

Remember - for years money has been used in jewelry.
And why not - it takes it out of circulation and the Gov. makes a mint!

Martin
--
Martin Eastburn, Barbara Eastburn
@ home at Lion's Lair with our computer
NRA LOH, NRA Life
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder

"Eastburn" wrote in message
...
Remember - for years money has been used in jewelry.
And why not - it takes it out of circulation and the Gov. makes a mint!


Nope. The Govt. already HAS the mint. HeH! They just mint more coinage.

--


Don Thompson

Ex ROMAD



Martin
--
Martin Eastburn, Barbara Eastburn
@ home at Lion's Lair with our computer
NRA LOH, NRA Life
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder

here I was hoping to read an article about coining.

We made some coining dies in house for comemmorative events.

The dies weremade from mild steel, then case hardened, and bead blasted

we used brass coin blanks

coined in a 60 ton hydraulic shop press


"jim" wrote in message news:3f3b19f2_3@newsfeed...
I just made a two headed nickel.
I used a soft 5c collet and bored it to hold the nickel.
Then I made two nickels bored out to .800 dia x .036
deep.[ Half of coin.]
Then I faced and turned a piece of stock to .800 then
I put the bored out coin over the turned dia. Then I
used a live center pushing a bushing against coin to
drive it. Took light cuts about .01 and turned it to
.800 bore size. then I pressed coin slug into the bored piece
and ended up with two headed nickel with no seam showing.
Worked great.
Jim
Have pics if anyone interested.

jim wrote:

I just made a two headed nickel.
I used a soft 5c collet and bored it to hold the nickel.
Then I made two nickels bored out to .800 dia x .036
deep.[ Half of coin.]
Then I faced and turned a piece of stock to .800 then
I put the bored out coin over the turned dia. Then I
used a live center pushing a bushing against coin to
drive it. Took light cuts about .01 and turned it to
.800 bore size. then I pressed coin slug into the bored piece
and ended up with two headed nickel with no seam showing.
Worked great.
Jim
Have pics if anyone interested.

Would you show the pictures of the process please, because I do not quite
understand your explanation.
--
Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

Abrasha wrote:
jim wrote:
I just made a two headed nickel.
I used a soft 5c collet and bored it to hold the nickel.
Then I made two nickels bored out to .800 dia x .036
deep.[ Half of coin.]
Then I faced and turned a piece of stock to .800 then
I put the bored out coin over the turned dia. Then I
used a live center pushing a bushing against coin to
drive it. Took light cuts about .01 and turned it to
.800 bore size. then I pressed coin slug into the bored piece
and ended up with two headed nickel with no seam showing.
Worked great.
Jim
Have pics if anyone interested.

Would you show the pictures of the process please, because I do not quite
understand your explanation.

While we wait for the pictures, here's my understanding of his
process: Nickels are about .73" thick and .835" wide. He cut
away a .8x.036 section of the Monticello side of each nickel.
He then cut away the rim on one of them, making a .8x.036
disk, which he pressed into the .8x.036 hole of the other.

To cut away the rim, he chucked a .8" cylinder and pressed
one of the bored nickels onto it, holding it there by tailstock
pressure while taking light cuts on the rim.
-jiw

James Waldby wrote:
....
While we wait for the pictures, here's my understanding of his
process: Nickels are about .73" thick and .835" wide. He cut

..73 is a typo for .073. Incidentally, .073" is based on
measuring a stack of 4 nickels; individually, they measured
at about (a) .069 to .0715, (b) .074 to .077, (c) .073 to .079,
(d) .072 to .078. Thickness depends on what chord you measure,
and I show the min and max out of about 5 measurements per nickel.

-jiw

And lo, it came about, that on Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:55:18 -0700 in
rec.crafts.metalworking , Jon Anderson was inspired
to utter:

"David A. Webb" wrote:

Isn't it perfectly legal to destroy/mutulate currency as long as you
don't try to put it back into circulation?

There was a bit on TV some time back about a guy that does this.
Defacing currency was brought up, and it seems there's some provision
for making novelty coins as long as they are not used for gambling or
other illegal purposes. I made several two headed nickels back in the
70's. Over time, most have accidentally slipped away. (how often do you
check both sides of a coin before forking it over at the register...G)

The story as I have it is that I can mark, paint, added to, etc coin,
currency, etc as long as I do not intend to change the value there of.

In other words, as long as you don't try and pass off a double sided nickel
as worth ten cents, then what have you done? Removed one (two?) nickels from
circulation. (Not to mention the cost of the metal slug and the machine time.
Kind of like the story of the guy who would use a fifty cent piece to make
counterfeit quarters.)

In other words - a neat little project. As long as it is a "novelty" and
not meant to defraud, "way kool"

Now, can you do it with a dime? :-)

A Dutch dime? (Those were even smaller.)


--
pyotr filipivich
Like I say, the two oldest cliches in the book are "The Good Old Days were
better." and "After all, these are Modern TImes."

In article ,
Richard J Kinch wrote:
David A. Webb writes:

Isn't it perfectly legal to destroy/mutulate currency as long as you
don't try to put it back into circulation?

Mutilation was an issue only when coins had silver or gold in them.

Perhaps so -- but have the laws been changed to reflect the
current materials? Old laws tend to hang around for a long time.

Enjoy,
DoN.



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I just made myself one of these double sided nickels. Jim, thanks again for the
email and for the photos.

It took me about 30 minutes. It came out all right, albeit not perfect.

This "double nickel" is going to make a great April Fools day present for my
oldest son who collects coins. One of his prized possessions is a double strike
quarter, so a two headed nickel might get some attention too.

Can't wait to see his face.

Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

Abrasha wrote:
I just made myself one of these double sided nickels. Jim,
thanks again for the email and for the photos.

It took me about 30 minutes. It came out all right, albeit not perfect.

This "double nickel" is going to make a great April Fools day
present for my oldest son who collects coins. One of his prized
possessions is a double strike quarter, so a two headed nickel
might get some attention too.
....

Jim sent the photos to me also, and with his permission
I combined some of them together and posted to the dropbox:

http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/nickel2head.txt
http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/nickel21.jpg
http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/nickel22.jpg
http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/nickel23.jpg

nickel21.jpg (64KB) - Nickel chucked in shop-modified soft
collet, being bored; nickel in collet after boring; closeup
of two bored nickels.

nickel22.jpg (48KB) - Round stock with .800" faced and turned;
bored nickel in place on end of stock; using tailstock, live
center, and bushing to hold nickel in place for turning to
remove rim.

nickel23.jpg (28KB) - Closeup of one bored nickel with rim,
and other bored nickel with rim removed; closeup of nickel
as pressed together.

-jiw

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:04:23 -0500, James Waldby
wrote:

Jim sent the photos to me also, and with his permission
I combined some of them together and posted to the dropbox:

http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/nickel2head.txt
http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/nickel21.jpg
http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/nickel22.jpg
http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/nickel23.jpg

Thanks for the photos, I don't have a collet setup but I think I'll
try the same basic method using some fixturing alloy to secure the
coin in a shallow bore in the end of a round, perhaps hard wax if I
can keep it cool enough while turning or as others have suggested
crazy glue.

John

Please note that my return address is wrong due to the amount of junk email I get.
So please respond to this message through the newsgroup.

And lo, it came about, that on Sun, 17 Aug 2003 15:27:14 -0400 in
rec.crafts.metalworking , "Jon" was inspired to utter:

here I was hoping to read an article about coining.

We made some coining dies in house for comemmorative events.

The dies weremade from mild steel, then case hardened, and bead blasted

we used brass coin blanks

coined in a 60 ton hydraulic shop press

I've done it the "old fashioned" way: heat the blanks, then place on pile,
and one guy holds the top die, and when centered and ready he nods his head and
the guy with the 5 pound sledge hits it. The die, not the helper's head. :-)

Loads of fun.

--
pyotr filipivich
The cliche is that history rarely repeats herself. Usually she just
lets fly with a frying pan and yells "Why weren't you listening
the first time!?"