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The wife's dog is out of control. Yesterday I went to the truck to
get a Sharpie and back to the shop and the tool I was just using was gone. So I start searching beating my head against the walls tring to figure out where I might have set it. It should have been right in the open ! A little voice says its the dog and its out in the yard , but that can't be cause it should have been in the middle of the work bench. Yep, in the yard... The dog must be standing up and grabbing stuff , it must be watching what I'm doing even though it looks half dead laying infront of the swap cooler. It just happened again and this time took my only small dial indicator and I found it all slobbered and in the durt ! I'm in the middle of making a holder for it and was hoping to get it done and set up for the next step of the job. Now I don't know what to do to clean it. I'm afraid to touch it. Soft brush and then ahhh hold it the best way in gas and then compressed air and hope for the best ? Help , an answer soon would help. I have to go back to work tomorrow and wanted to get farther on this project than at a dead stop. |
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The wife's dog is out of control. Yesterday I went to the truck to get a Sharpie and back to the shop and the tool I was just using was gone. So I start searching beating my head against the walls tring to snip bench. Yep, in the yard... The dog must be standing up and grabbing stuff , it must be watching what I'm doing even though it looks half dead laying infront of the swap cooler. It just happened again and this time took my only small dial indicator and I found it all slobbered and in the durt ! I'm in the middle of making a holder for it and was hoping to get it done and set up for the next step of the job. Now I don't know what to do to clean it. I'm afraid to touch it. Soft brush and then ahhh hold it the best way in gas and then compressed air and hope for the best ? I can understand why you'r afraid to touch it. But violence is never the right solution. Perhaps find a local pound? More seriously, it's probably the right thing to take it apart and clean it, lubricating it with the appropriate lubricant. Dog spit ain't it. -- http://inquisitor.i.am/ | | Ian Stirling. ---------------------------+-------------------------+-------------------------- Get off a shot FAST, this upsets him long enough to let you make your second shot perfect. -- Robert A Heinlein. |
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:26:27 +0000 (UTC), Ian Stirling
wrote: Sunworshiper wrote: The wife's dog is out of control. Yesterday I went to the truck to get a Sharpie and back to the shop and the tool I was just using was gone. So I start searching beating my head against the walls tring to snip bench. Yep, in the yard... The dog must be standing up and grabbing stuff , it must be watching what I'm doing even though it looks half dead laying infront of the swap cooler. It just happened again and this time took my only small dial indicator and I found it all slobbered and in the durt ! I'm in the middle of making a holder for it and was hoping to get it done and set up for the next step of the job. Now I don't know what to do to clean it. I'm afraid to touch it. Soft brush and then ahhh hold it the best way in gas and then compressed air and hope for the best ? I can understand why you'r afraid to touch it. But violence is never the right solution. Perhaps find a local pound? LOL no no the indicator is what I don't want to touch , as to grind in more sand. There is a nice long durt road out where I shoot really close to here that has been calling this dog for awhile now , but I can't do that. More seriously, it's probably the right thing to take it apart and clean it, lubricating it with the appropriate lubricant. Dog spit ain't it. Take it apart ! So, I'm screwed , A ? That's what I figured. I don't have tools that small , little alone small fingers. |
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--Getcher self a bottle of 4-alarm hot sauce and douse a few
sacrificial items on the table; that oughtta do the trick. --A pal of mine lives next door to a coop of barky dogs and he's fastened a solenoid valve from an old washing machine to a tree in his backyard (one that allows a view of the barky dogs). When they start barking he presses a button on his desk and it squirts them; very kewl. :-) -- "Steamboat Ed" Haas : California: "The crap magnet Hacking the Trailing Edge! : in America's crankcase". http://www.nmpproducts.com/intro.htm ---Decks a-wash in a sea of words--- |
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Nice dead dog!
Actually, chain the dog so that he can't get into the shop is one thing. Another is to keep the door closed to the shop, putting on a closer if necessary. Get a electric fence transformer and hook it up to the bench (metal top please) and turn it on when you leave the shop AND remember to turn it off when you arrive at the bench. Window screen on the floor (dual chore of picking up swarf and grounding the dog) will quickly teach him about not going to the table or other such locations. Even a small tool on the floor will teach him to not do that sort of stuff. If the dog really is persistant, then it is time to get rid of it. -- Bob May Losing weight is easy! If you ever want to lose weight, eat and drink less. Works evevery time it is tried! |
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steamer wrote:
--Getcher self a bottle of 4-alarm hot sauce and douse a few sacrificial items on the table; that oughtta do the trick. --A pal of mine lives next door to a coop of barky dogs and he's fastened a solenoid valve from an old washing machine to a tree/hs1163md.html in his backyard (one that allows a view of the barky dogs). When they start barking he presses a button on his desk and it squirts them; very kewl. :-) Listening to Jerry Baker's garden show on Saturday morinings gives an idea. Try http://www.firegirl.com/hs1163md.html. Look for their Mad Dog 357 sauce (357,000 Scoville units); or if you wnat to get drastic I think they have some 1,000,000 Scoville unit oil G. -- Keith Bowers - Thomasville, NC |
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:28:51 GMT, Sunworshiper
wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:26:27 +0000 (UTC), Ian Stirling wrote: Sunworshiper wrote: The wife's dog is out of control. Yesterday I went to the truck to get a Sharpie and back to the shop and the tool I was just using was gone. So I start searching beating my head against the walls tring to snip bench. Yep, in the yard... The dog must be standing up and grabbing stuff , it must be watching what I'm doing even though it looks half dead laying infront of the swap cooler. It just happened again and this time took my only small dial indicator and I found it all slobbered and in the durt ! I'm in the middle of making a holder for it and was hoping to get it done and set up for the next step of the job. Now I don't know what to do to clean it. I'm afraid to touch it. Soft brush and then ahhh hold it the best way in gas and then compressed air and hope for the best ? I can understand why you'r afraid to touch it. But violence is never the right solution. Perhaps find a local pound? LOL no no the indicator is what I don't want to touch , as to grind in more sand. There is a nice long durt road out where I shoot really close to here that has been calling this dog for awhile now , but I can't do that. More seriously, it's probably the right thing to take it apart and clean it, lubricating it with the appropriate lubricant. Dog spit ain't it. Take it apart ! So, I'm screwed , A ? That's what I figured. I don't have tools that small , little alone small fingers. Its dead , not the dog , yet. My '95 MSC says a good $100. Is there a better range than .05 ? The hinged type , hell I can't read this stuff. I was just fine with the one I HAD. Hear I thought it was .0005 not .005" ... Any recommendations ? Guess I need a new one to continue... The ones with one larger round end opposite might do for me . The one that is ruined had a number of spots to hold on to , but I never used them , yet. |
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Sunworshiper wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:28:51 GMT, Sunworshiper wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:26:27 +0000 (UTC), Ian Stirling wrote: Sunworshiper wrote: The wife's dog is out of control. Yesterday I went to the truck to get a Sharpie and back to the shop and the tool I was just using was gone. So I start searching beating my head against the walls tring to snip More seriously, it's probably the right thing to take it apart and clean it, lubricating it with the appropriate lubricant. Dog spit ain't it. Take it apart ! So, I'm screwed , A ? That's what I figured. I don't have tools that small , little alone small fingers. Its dead , not the dog , yet. My '95 MSC says a good $100. I'd try getting a set of small tools, and a magnifying glass. A cheap set isn't much, and the worst thing that can heppen is that you ruin it further. At best, you've saved $100, and found out how to repair dial indicators. Is there a better range than .05 ? The hinged type , hell I can't read this stuff. I was just fine with the one I HAD. Hear I thought it was .0005 not .005" ... Any recommendations ? Guess I need a new one to continue... The ones with one larger round end opposite might do for me . The one that is ruined had a number of spots to hold on to , but I never used them , yet. Well, you could always buy a set of small tools. -- http://inquisitor.i.am/ | | Ian Stirling. ---------------------------+-------------------------+-------------------------- Two parrots sitting on a perch. One asks the other, "Can you smell fish?" |
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Ian Stirling wrote:
I'd try getting a set of small tools, and a magnifying glass. A cheap set isn't much, and the worst thing that can heppen is that you ruin it further. At best, you've saved $100, and found out how to repair dial indicators. You might find a few helpful suggestions in http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/...iles/DGAGE.TXT Good luck! Ted |
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It just happened again and this time took my only small dial indicator and I found it all slobbered and in the durt ! I'm in the middle of making a holder for it and was hoping to get it done and set up for the next step of the job. Now I don't know what to do to clean it. I'm afraid to touch it. Soft brush and then ahhh hold it the best way in gas and then compressed air and hope for the best ? Also depends on what kind of indicator it is. Some of them (like the starrett 196) actually come apart pretty easy and can be cleaned that way. Others are not so easy - but are a bit more dirt-proof. I would first off remove any particulates from the plunger (if plunger type) and see how sticky it has gotten. The plunger-type on my lathe that I use for a carriage travel depth indicator gets swarfed all the time and never seems to mind it. JIm ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at yktvmv (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:24:02 GMT, Sunworshiper
wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:28:51 GMT, Sunworshiper wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:26:27 +0000 (UTC), Ian Stirling wrote: Sunworshiper wrote: The wife's dog is out of control. Yesterday I went to the truck to get a Sharpie and back to the shop and the tool I was just using was gone. So I start searching beating my head against the walls tring to snip bench. Yep, in the yard... The dog must be standing up and grabbing stuff , it must be watching what I'm doing even though it looks half dead laying infront of the swap cooler. It just happened again and this time took my only small dial indicator and I found it all slobbered and in the durt ! I'm in the middle of making a holder for it and was hoping to get it done and set up for the next step of the job. Now I don't know what to do to clean it. I'm afraid to touch it. Soft brush and then ahhh hold it the best way in gas and then compressed air and hope for the best ? I can understand why you'r afraid to touch it. But violence is never the right solution. Perhaps find a local pound? LOL no no the indicator is what I don't want to touch , as to grind in more sand. There is a nice long durt road out where I shoot really close to here that has been calling this dog for awhile now , but I can't do that. More seriously, it's probably the right thing to take it apart and clean it, lubricating it with the appropriate lubricant. Dog spit ain't it. Take it apart ! So, I'm screwed , A ? That's what I figured. I don't have tools that small , little alone small fingers. Its dead , not the dog , yet. My '95 MSC says a good $100. Is there a better range than .05 ? The hinged type , hell I can't read this stuff. I was just fine with the one I HAD. Hear I thought it was .0005 not .005" ... Any recommendations ? Guess I need a new one to continue... The ones with one larger round end opposite might do for me . The one that is ruined had a number of spots to hold on to , but I never used them , yet. I have repaired several types of indicators myself, without directions, and it sure is faster the second time you do one. If you would please post the brand and model perhaps it's one I can help you with. Then maybe you can profit from my misteaks, er, mistakes. Cheers, Eric |
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I would dip the indicator into a container of safety solvent. (clear K-1
kerosene will work) lightly agitate and brush with a small paint brush until you get all of the debris and gunk loose. Continue dipping and operate stoke of the indicator and be sure to orient so the solvent will run out of the points of entry. After every thing is working smoothly blow out excess solvent with air hose and lubricate with light oil. Starret has a lub they call M-1 spray for precision tools, But WD-40 will work or I like the Liquid Wrench/with teflon. Sunworshiper wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:26:27 +0000 (UTC), Ian Stirling wrote: Sunworshiper wrote: The wife's dog is out of control. Yesterday I went to the truck to get a Sharpie and back to the shop and the tool I was just using was gone. So I start searching beating my head against the walls tring to snip bench. Yep, in the yard... The dog must be standing up and grabbing stuff , it must be watching what I'm doing even though it looks half dead laying infront of the swap cooler. It just happened again and this time took my only small dial indicator and I found it all slobbered and in the durt ! I'm in the middle of making a holder for it and was hoping to get it done and set up for the next step of the job. Now I don't know what to do to clean it. I'm afraid to touch it. Soft brush and then ahhh hold it the best way in gas and then compressed air and hope for the best ? I can understand why you'r afraid to touch it. But violence is never the right solution. Perhaps find a local pound? LOL no no the indicator is what I don't want to touch , as to grind in more sand. There is a nice long durt road out where I shoot really close to here that has been calling this dog for awhile now , but I can't do that. More seriously, it's probably the right thing to take it apart and clean it, lubricating it with the appropriate lubricant. Dog spit ain't it. Take it apart ! So, I'm screwed , A ? That's what I figured. I don't have tools that small , little alone small fingers. |
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:24:58 -0700, Eric R Snow
wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:24:02 GMT, Sunworshiper wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:28:51 GMT, Sunworshiper wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:26:27 +0000 (UTC), Ian Stirling wrote: Sunworshiper wrote: The wife's dog is out of control. Yesterday I went to the truck to get a Sharpie and back to the shop and the tool I was just using was gone. So I start searching beating my head against the walls tring to snip bench. Yep, in the yard... The dog must be standing up and grabbing stuff , it must be watching what I'm doing even though it looks half dead laying infront of the swap cooler. It just happened again and this time took my only small dial indicator and I found it all slobbered and in the durt ! I'm in the middle of making a holder for it and was hoping to get it done and set up for the next step of the job. Now I don't know what to do to clean it. I'm afraid to touch it. Soft brush and then ahhh hold it the best way in gas and then compressed air and hope for the best ? I can understand why you'r afraid to touch it. But violence is never the right solution. Perhaps find a local pound? LOL no no the indicator is what I don't want to touch , as to grind in more sand. There is a nice long durt road out where I shoot really close to here that has been calling this dog for awhile now , but I can't do that. More seriously, it's probably the right thing to take it apart and clean it, lubricating it with the appropriate lubricant. Dog spit ain't it. Take it apart ! So, I'm screwed , A ? That's what I figured. I don't have tools that small , little alone small fingers. Its dead , not the dog , yet. My '95 MSC says a good $100. Is there a better range than .05 ? The hinged type , hell I can't read this stuff. I was just fine with the one I HAD. Hear I thought it was .0005 not .005" ... Any recommendations ? Guess I need a new one to continue... The ones with one larger round end opposite might do for me . The one that is ruined had a number of spots to hold on to , but I never used them , yet. I have repaired several types of indicators myself, without directions, and it sure is faster the second time you do one. If you would please post the brand and model perhaps it's one I can help you with. Then maybe you can profit from my misteaks, er, mistakes. Cheers, Eric Thanks for the offer , but its dead. I ordered a new one from MSC. It was china junk , I took it apart , and got it for $10 at a swap meet a good 7 years ago. It worked for my needs until the ahhh dog. Maybe I was suppose to have a new one??? Naw, I need to take care of the dog ... somehow. Is my spelling getting to ya? I went at cleaning it as best as I thought , but it must be bent and never live again in my hands. Like intermittent problems and things like splicing tape , getting apart tint film , and clocks. |
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Wayne Harris wrote:
After every thing is working smoothly blow out excess solvent with air hose and lubricate with light oil. Starret has a lub they call M-1 spray for precision tools, But WD-40 will work or I like the Liquid Wrench/with teflon. In my experience 3-in-1 oil and WD-40 are quite unsatisfactory as precision instrument lubes. Starrett M-1 or CRC 3-36 are much better. Ted |
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In article , Sunworshiper says...
Is my spelling getting to ya? Spelling? Hadn't noticed any! :^) Jim ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at yktvmv (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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