"Gunner" wrote in message
news
Its official, that tax and spend piece of dreck, Gray Davis, is
history. The California Elections board, just certified that the 1.2
million (not all counted by any means G) signatures are valid and are
grounds for the first Recall election in California history to proceed.

Now let the Democrap/Liberal/Socialist whining begin.
Neener neener neener.

Suggested Democrat hate topics:

Conservatives want to starve your children.
Conservatives want to deport all illegal aliens ...(well we do. G
Conservatives want to poison the land, water and air
Conservatives want a business friendly California. ( Bad Thing!)
Conservatives want to kick grandma out into the snow
( In Orange Country??????)
Darrel Isa bought 1.6 million votes,
(including a significant number of Democrat ones)
to recall Davis. by spending $1 millon dollars.

Im sure your spinmeisters can think up a few more...s******.


Sorry Gunner,

Gray Davis is an idiot--It would make absolutely no difference if he were
republican or conservative or whatever..........Still an idiot.........

Something to be said about those idiots that elected him--I doubt he would
ever have been elected in any *other* state.......

=========

Looks like our Gov ( Gary Locke ) is not gonna run again........He hasnt
done too bad here, IMO.

One of the major contenders will be will be Christine Gregoire, our current
AG........I would have some derogatory statements for her in regards to some
taxation issues, but will refrain as I have a family member works as an
attorney in her office.


--

SVL

"Gunner" wrote in message
news
Its official, that tax and spend piece of dreck, Gray Davis, is
history. The California Elections board, just certified that the 1.2
million (not all counted by any means G) signatures are valid and are
grounds for the first Recall election in California history to proceed.

Now let the Democrap/Liberal/Socialist whining begin.
Neener neener neener.

Suggested Democrat hate topics:

Conservatives want to starve your children.
Conservatives want to deport all illegal aliens ...(well we do. G
Conservatives want to poison the land, water and air
Conservatives want a business friendly California. ( Bad Thing!)
Conservatives want to kick grandma out into the snow
( In Orange Country??????)
Darrel Isa bought 1.6 million votes,
(including a significant number of Democrat ones)
to recall Davis. by spending $1 millon dollars.

Im sure your spinmeisters can think up a few more...s******.


Sorry Gunner,

Gray Davis is an idiot--It would make absolutely no difference if he were
republican or conservative or whatever..........Still an idiot.........

Something to be said about those idiots that elected him--I doubt he would
ever have been elected in any *other* state.......

=========

Looks like our Gov ( Gary Locke ) is not gonna run again........He hasnt
done too bad here, IMO.

One of the major contenders will be will be Christine Gregoire, our current
AG........I would have some derogatory statements for her in regards to some
taxation issues, but will refrain as I have a family member works as an
attorney in her office.



Be ready Gunner, the whining is really going to kick in now.
When I encounter those idiots who feel Davis should remain in power I ask them
one question. I ask them if they feel they are undertaxed. If they answer no,
then I say the state must be spending too much money then. Of course they don't
want to admit to that and go off on some other tangent.

Les

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 04:37:41 GMT, Gunner wrote:

More bad news for the Demonrats:

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../21787501.html

Gunner, dancing with glee.

And mo

http://www.derfcity.com/o/liberals.html
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty
is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
-- Ben Franklin

In article ,
says...

Its official, that tax and spend piece of dreck, Gray Davis, is
history. The California Elections board, just certified that the 1.2
million (not all counted by any means G) signatures are valid and are
grounds for the first Recall election in California history to proceed.

I think it's premature to call him 'history'. Davis has been
behaving like an idiot so far, but he CAN be an effective
campaigner; and the full might of the Democratic party (and
those who don't want a Republician in office) will start
lining up behind him.

This kind of reminds me of Argentina as it was collapsing,
where there were vicious political fights over who was going
to be steering what was basically a sinking ship...

FW

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:49:21 -0700, "PrecisionMachinist"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
news
Its official, that tax and spend piece of dreck, Gray Davis, is
history. The California Elections board, just certified that the 1.2
million (not all counted by any means G) signatures are valid and are
grounds for the first Recall election in California history to proceed.

Now let the Democrap/Liberal/Socialist whining begin.
Neener neener neener.

Suggested Democrat hate topics:

Conservatives want to starve your children.
Conservatives want to deport all illegal aliens ...(well we do. G
Conservatives want to poison the land, water and air
Conservatives want a business friendly California. ( Bad Thing!)
Conservatives want to kick grandma out into the snow
( In Orange Country??????)
Darrel Isa bought 1.6 million votes,
(including a significant number of Democrat ones)
to recall Davis. by spending $1 millon dollars.

Im sure your spinmeisters can think up a few more...s******.


Sorry Gunner,

Gray Davis is an idiot--It would make absolutely no difference if he were
republican or conservative or whatever..........Still an idiot.........

Something to be said about those idiots that elected him--I doubt he would
ever have been elected in any *other* state.......

Pssst..it was the Democraps that elected him. If you dangle enough
welfare money in front of a statue, it will vote for a socialist.

Gunner


=========

Looks like our Gov ( Gary Locke ) is not gonna run again........He hasnt
done too bad here, IMO.

One of the major contenders will be will be Christine Gregoire, our current
AG........I would have some derogatory statements for her in regards to some
taxation issues, but will refrain as I have a family member works as an
attorney in her office.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty
is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
-- Ben Franklin

"Ljwebb11" wrote in message
...
"Gunner" wrote in message
news
Its official, that tax and spend piece of dreck, Gray Davis, is
history. The California Elections board, just certified that the 1.2
million (not all counted by any means G) signatures are valid and are
grounds for the first Recall election in California history to proceed.

Now let the Democrap/Liberal/Socialist whining begin.
Neener neener neener.

Suggested Democrat hate topics:

Conservatives want to starve your children.
Conservatives want to deport all illegal aliens ...(well we do. G
Conservatives want to poison the land, water and air
Conservatives want a business friendly California. ( Bad Thing!)
Conservatives want to kick grandma out into the snow
( In Orange Country??????)
Darrel Isa bought 1.6 million votes,
(including a significant number of Democrat ones)
to recall Davis. by spending $1 millon dollars.

Im sure your spinmeisters can think up a few more...s******.


Sorry Gunner,

Gray Davis is an idiot--It would make absolutely no difference if he were
republican or conservative or whatever..........Still an idiot.........

Something to be said about those idiots that elected him--I doubt he
would
ever have been elected in any *other* state.......

=========

Looks like our Gov ( Gary Locke ) is not gonna run again........He hasnt
done too bad here, IMO.

One of the major contenders will be will be Christine Gregoire, our
current
AG........I would have some derogatory statements for her in regards to
some
taxation issues, but will refrain as I have a family member works as an
attorney in her office.



Be ready Gunner, the whining is really going to kick in now.
When I encounter those idiots who feel Davis should remain in power I ask
them
one question. I ask them if they feel they are undertaxed. If they answer
no,
then I say the state must be spending too much money then. Of course they
don't
want to admit to that and go off on some other tangent.


Les,

A: Im not Gunner.

B: As far as you know, I *could* have issues as to being
undertaxed---however unlikely G

C: I made no specific comments as to tax levels or spending.........nor will
I, excepting the below, and for the reason stated above......

=============

Here is a question :

Is it an ethical political policy to tax tobacco and liquor at a rate where
any additional taxation results in a net loss due to illegal (untaxed)
sales, *logically* because smokers and drinkers are a higher burden on
health care??

How about when the additional taxes collected are put into general funds
with no increased funding for health care?

=============

Generally speaking, a majority of smokers tend to be more uneducated and in
a lower income bracket than the median.......They are basically powerless
over their habit/addiction, regardless of the cost of cigarettes.....They
will put less food on the table for their children in order to buy their
cigarettes..........Defer buying insurance for their car......But they pay
more taxes..........And when it comes to health care, they are lumped in
with all the rest.......

=============

The attitude "Never give a sucker an even break" is not an ethical policy as
it regards to business, politics, or other, IMO.........

It is the cause of many of the biggest problems we face today........And one
would be a fool to think it is pervasive in any one political party and not
the others.

--

SVL

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:49:21 -0700, "PrecisionMachinist"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
news
Its official, that tax and spend piece of dreck, Gray Davis, is
history. The California Elections board, just certified that the 1.2
million (not all counted by any means G) signatures are valid and are
grounds for the first Recall election in California history to proceed.

Now let the Democrap/Liberal/Socialist whining begin.
Neener neener neener.

Suggested Democrat hate topics:

Conservatives want to starve your children.
Conservatives want to deport all illegal aliens ...(well we do. G
Conservatives want to poison the land, water and air
Conservatives want a business friendly California. ( Bad Thing!)
Conservatives want to kick grandma out into the snow
( In Orange Country??????)
Darrel Isa bought 1.6 million votes,
(including a significant number of Democrat ones)
to recall Davis. by spending $1 millon dollars.

Im sure your spinmeisters can think up a few more...s******.


Sorry Gunner,

Gray Davis is an idiot--It would make absolutely no difference if he were
republican or conservative or whatever..........Still an idiot.........

Something to be said about those idiots that elected him--I doubt he
would
ever have been elected in any *other* state.......

Pssst..it was the Democraps that elected him. If you dangle enough
welfare money in front of a statue, it will vote for a socialist.


No Gunner...........It was the idiots that elected him..........He just took
a party line.......another sign of idiocy G


--


SVL

On 24 Jul 2003 04:51:09 GMT, (Frank White)
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Its official, that tax and spend piece of dreck, Gray Davis, is
history. The California Elections board, just certified that the 1.2
million (not all counted by any means G) signatures are valid and are
grounds for the first Recall election in California history to proceed.

I think it's premature to call him 'history'. Davis has been
behaving like an idiot so far, but he CAN be an effective
campaigner; and the full might of the Democratic party (and
those who don't want a Republician in office) will start
lining up behind him.

Quite true..but the full weight of the Democratic Party means dick at
this point. Those signatures mean the people are ****ed off and no
amount of whining and tearing of hair is gonna keep that smuck in
office. I rather hope the Demonrats do spend a ****load of money trying
to keep him in. That means their war chest will be depleted come
November of next year.

This kind of reminds me of Argentina as it was collapsing,
where there were vicious political fights over who was going
to be steering what was basically a sinking ship...

FW
Quite true. Now we need someone with balls enough to beach the ship,
and make drastic repairs.

I assume you heard about the Dem Leftists getting their meeting
broadcast over the Squawk boxes in Sacto the other day? The meeting
where they discussed keeping the state in crisis so to further their own
personal agendas? Typical..****ing typical of the Left. Put Grandma
out on the street simply to stay in power.

Gunner

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty
is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
-- Ben Franklin

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:03:38 -0700, "PrecisionMachinist"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:49:21 -0700, "PrecisionMachinist"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
news Its official, that tax and spend piece of dreck, Gray Davis, is
history. The California Elections board, just certified that the 1.2
million (not all counted by any means G) signatures are valid and are
grounds for the first Recall election in California history to proceed.

Now let the Democrap/Liberal/Socialist whining begin.
Neener neener neener.

Suggested Democrat hate topics:

Conservatives want to starve your children.
Conservatives want to deport all illegal aliens ...(well we do. G
Conservatives want to poison the land, water and air
Conservatives want a business friendly California. ( Bad Thing!)
Conservatives want to kick grandma out into the snow
( In Orange Country??????)
Darrel Isa bought 1.6 million votes,
(including a significant number of Democrat ones)
to recall Davis. by spending $1 millon dollars.

Im sure your spinmeisters can think up a few more...s******.


Sorry Gunner,

Gray Davis is an idiot--It would make absolutely no difference if he were
republican or conservative or whatever..........Still an idiot.........

Something to be said about those idiots that elected him--I doubt he
would
ever have been elected in any *other* state.......

Pssst..it was the Democraps that elected him. If you dangle enough
welfare money in front of a statue, it will vote for a socialist.


No Gunner...........It was the idiots that elected him..........He just took
a party line.......another sign of idiocy G

Chuckle..as I said..it was the Democrats whom elected him.
Democrats=idiots..same difference.
G

Gunner

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty
is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
-- Ben Franklin

"Gunner" wrote in message
news
Its official, that tax and spend piece of dreck, Gray Davis, is
history. The California Elections board, just certified that the 1.2
million (not all counted by any means G) signatures are valid and are
grounds for the first Recall election in California history to proceed.

Heh, coincidence or not? Here's what my daily question of the day (mailing
list thing) says this morning:

-=-=-
Here's your Knowledge Master Question of the Day.

What type of special election determines whether an official
shall be replaced before the expiration of his or her term?
-=-=-

;-)

Tim

--
In the immortal words of Ned Flanders: "No foot longs!"
Website @ http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
Typical..****ing typical of the Left. Put Grandma
out on the street simply to stay in power.

Far be it for me to enter in a political thread, especially one of your
crossposted threads, which we know are doomed to faliure, but uh anyway,
since when were the dem's out to do that? What with their welfare, SS
and such..(?)

Tim

--
In the immortal words of Ned Flanders: "No foot longs!"
Website @ http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms

"Gunner" wrote in message
news
Its official, that tax and spend piece of dreck, Gray Davis, is
history.

He will be history only if enough folks show up on election day to oust him.

I thought Clinton was going to be ousted when he was impeached, but the
Senate thought differently. I wonder if it had anything to do with
Renquist's racing stripes?

--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.

Yup the Californians are revolting ?? )

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:03:38 -0700, "PrecisionMachinist"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:49:21 -0700, "PrecisionMachinist"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
news Its official, that tax and spend piece of dreck, Gray Davis, is
history. The California Elections board, just certified that the 1.2
million (not all counted by any means G) signatures are valid and
are
grounds for the first Recall election in California history to
proceed.

Now let the Democrap/Liberal/Socialist whining begin.
Neener neener neener.

Suggested Democrat hate topics:

Conservatives want to starve your children.
Conservatives want to deport all illegal aliens ...(well we do. G
Conservatives want to poison the land, water and air
Conservatives want a business friendly California. ( Bad Thing!)
Conservatives want to kick grandma out into the snow
( In Orange Country??????)
Darrel Isa bought 1.6 million votes,
(including a significant number of Democrat ones)
to recall Davis. by spending $1 millon dollars.

Im sure your spinmeisters can think up a few more...s******.


Sorry Gunner,

Gray Davis is an idiot--It would make absolutely no difference if he
were
republican or conservative or whatever..........Still an
idiot.........

Something to be said about those idiots that elected him--I doubt he
would
ever have been elected in any *other* state.......

Pssst..it was the Democraps that elected him. If you dangle enough
welfare money in front of a statue, it will vote for a socialist.


No Gunner...........It was the idiots that elected him..........He just
took
a party line.......another sign of idiocy G

Chuckle..as I said..it was the Democrats whom elected him.
Democrats=idiots..same difference.
G


Lotsa idiot Democrats in your area, eh?

Maybe you can convert them.......Should be easy, provided they have the
intelligence you credit them with........Makes ya wonder how many of em used
to be republicans before they got stupid.......

I dont vote along party lines.........I simply pick the worst candidate and
then vote for his opponent..


--


SVL

Steve Day wrote:

Yup the Californians are revolting ?? )

We obviously don't have a monopoly on that.

michael

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:30:28 -0700, "PrecisionMachinist"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:03:38 -0700, "PrecisionMachinist"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:49:21 -0700, "PrecisionMachinist"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
news Its official, that tax and spend piece of dreck, Gray Davis, is
history. The California Elections board, just certified that the 1.2
million (not all counted by any means G) signatures are valid and
are
grounds for the first Recall election in California history to
proceed.

Now let the Democrap/Liberal/Socialist whining begin.
Neener neener neener.

Suggested Democrat hate topics:

Conservatives want to starve your children.
Conservatives want to deport all illegal aliens ...(well we do. G
Conservatives want to poison the land, water and air
Conservatives want a business friendly California. ( Bad Thing!)
Conservatives want to kick grandma out into the snow
( In Orange Country??????)
Darrel Isa bought 1.6 million votes,
(including a significant number of Democrat ones)
to recall Davis. by spending $1 millon dollars.

Im sure your spinmeisters can think up a few more...s******.


Sorry Gunner,

Gray Davis is an idiot--It would make absolutely no difference if he
were
republican or conservative or whatever..........Still an
idiot.........

Something to be said about those idiots that elected him--I doubt he
would
ever have been elected in any *other* state.......

Pssst..it was the Democraps that elected him. If you dangle enough
welfare money in front of a statue, it will vote for a socialist.


No Gunner...........It was the idiots that elected him..........He just
took
a party line.......another sign of idiocy G

Chuckle..as I said..it was the Democrats whom elected him.
Democrats=idiots..same difference.
G


Lotsa idiot Democrats in your area, eh?

This is California..you figure it out. The Land of the Great Latte and
Hollywierd...

Maybe you can convert them.......Should be easy, provided they have the
intelligence you credit them with........Makes ya wonder how many of em used
to be republicans before they got stupid.......

None. that I know of.

I dont vote along party lines.........I simply pick the worst candidate and
then vote for his opponent..

Most of the time in California..there isnt a dimes worth of difference,
darn the luck....

Gunner

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty
is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
-- Ben Franklin

Gunner wrote:

Its official, that tax and spend piece of dreck, Gray Davis, is
history. The California Elections board, just certified that the 1.2
million (not all counted by any means G) signatures are valid and are
grounds for the first Recall election in California history to proceed.



Didn't Arnold star in a movie called "Total Recall" ?

Political experts say that Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamonte, would become governor
in the event of a recall according to state constitution. Interesting,
since he is
the one who decides on the topic of a double election, the second part would
select a new governor???

Fred

Subject: OT-California In revolt
From: "PrecisionMachinist"
Date: 7/23/2003 10:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:


Les,

A: Im not Gunner.

B: As far as you know, I *could* have issues as to being
undertaxed---however unlikely G

C: I made no specific comments as to tax levels or spending.........nor will
I, excepting the below, and for the reason stated above......

=============

Here is a question :

Is it an ethical political policy to tax tobacco and liquor at a rate where
any additional taxation results in a net loss due to illegal (untaxed)
sales, *logically* because smokers and drinkers are a higher burden on
health care??

How about when the additional taxes collected are put into general funds
with no increased funding for health care?

=============

Generally speaking, a majority of smokers tend to be more uneducated and in
a lower income bracket than the median.......They are basically powerless
over their habit/addiction, regardless of the cost of cigarettes.....They
will put less food on the table for their children in order to buy their
cigarettes..........Defer buying insurance for their car......But they pay
more taxes..........And when it comes to health care, they are lumped in
with all the rest.......

=============

The attitude "Never give a sucker an even break" is not an ethical policy as
it regards to business, politics, or other, IMO.........

It is the cause of many of the biggest problems we face today........And one
would be a fool to think it is pervasive in any one political party and not
the others.

--

SVL


Well SVL, it is a good thing you are not under the illusion you are Gunner.G

You have combined words that don't belong together. The word ethical shall not
be used in conjunction with political policy or taxes.

I believe that if so-called sin taxes are imposed, and they shouldn't be, the
money should NOT go into the general fund. It should be used for the reason
they claimed they needed the money in the first place.
A good example is the 25 cent per pack tax on cigs that was passed over ten
years ago. All that money was to be spent on education and healthcare issues
involving smoking.
Well, a couple years later, some people decide the mountain lions need
protection. They get a proposition on the ballot and it was passed by voters.
It means that mountain lions are protected from hunting and land is being
purchased to give them a place to live.
Part of the money being used to buy the land is coming from the 25 cent cig
tax. It was right there in the fine print of the proposition.
What the hell do mountain lions have to do with smoking?
These so-called sin taxes are simply cash cows for the big spenders.
Just like the state of Rhode Island suing everybody who sold lead-based paint
in the state. Absolute bullcrap.

We have a big problem with voters approving these "feel good" propositions. The
money collected by these taxes is soon diverted to other uses. And the people
who voted for it could care less about it. They already did their "feel good"
duty.

Les

"Gunner" wrote in message
...

Maybe you can convert them.......Should be easy, provided they have the
intelligence you credit them with........Makes ya wonder how many of em
used
to be republicans before they got stupid.......

None. that I know of.

James Baker (of Baker Bill fame?) -- of course he suffered brain damage from
the bullet he took in the Reagan assasination attempt.....


"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty
is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
-- Ben Franklin

"Uncle_Phil" wrote in message
...

"Gunner" wrote in message
...

Maybe you can convert them.......Should be easy, provided they have the
intelligence you credit them with........Makes ya wonder how many of em
used
to be republicans before they got stupid.......

None. that I know of.

James Baker (of Baker Bill fame?) -- of course he suffered brain damage
from
the bullet he took in the Reagan assasination attempt.....



Actually, that was James Brady--and it was the the "Brady Bill"........

--

SVL

Try James Brady........

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is done in a particular way, and why it is done at
all, and why it can't be done more efficiently,
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"Uncle_Phil" wrote in message
...

"Gunner" wrote in message
...

Maybe you can convert them.......Should be easy, provided they have the
intelligence you credit them with........Makes ya wonder how many of em
used
to be republicans before they got stupid.......

None. that I know of.

James Baker (of Baker Bill fame?) -- of course he suffered brain damage
from
the bullet he took in the Reagan assasination attempt.....


"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty
is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
-- Ben Franklin

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:46:20 -0600, "Uncle_Phil"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .

Maybe you can convert them.......Should be easy, provided they have the
intelligence you credit them with........Makes ya wonder how many of em
used
to be republicans before they got stupid.......

None. that I know of.

James Baker (of Baker Bill fame?) -- of course he suffered brain damage from
the bullet he took in the Reagan assasination attempt.....

Anaria (or something like that :^) ) Huffington

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:30:12 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

I assume you heard about the Dem Leftists getting their meeting
broadcast over the Squawk boxes in Sacto the other day? The meeting
where they discussed keeping the state in crisis so to further their own
personal agendas? Typical..****ing typical of the Left. Put Grandma
out on the street simply to stay in power.

No I haven't. Do you have a link?

John

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"Gunner" wrote in message
news

Its official, that tax and spend piece of dreck, Gray Davis, is
history.

Just because a recall election is being held doesn't mean it's official that
he will be recalled, that's why it's called an "election".
If he is recalled, he'll be replaced by another politician.


Now let the Democrap/Liberal/Socialist whining begin.
Neener neener neener.

Comparing a Democratic politician to a Republican politician is like
comparing a red-headed child molester to a blonde child molester, they're
both child molesters.
John

"Steve" wrote in message
om...
As opposed to GOP who just SPEND
you think that creep Issa is any better ? another actor would be better
??
SteveC

Gunner wrote in message
. ..
Its official, that tax and spend piece of dreck, Gray Davis,

Another actor? Sounds like a winner, that Ronald Reagan guy did pretty
good.

Kirk Gordon wrote:

Gunner wrote:

Its official, that tax and spend piece of dreck, Gray Davis, is
history. The California Elections board, just certified that the 1.2
million (not all counted by any means G) signatures are valid and are
grounds for the first Recall election in California history to proceed.



I always knew there was something revolting about California.

And what would that be? That the system works? That the
people could get fed up with a govenor and dump him?

I'll tell you what was revolting about California, that
in november neither of the parties could put anyone of
quality on the ballot. And we're trying to fix that
now.

Gunner wrote in message . ..

Im sure your spinmeisters can think up a few more...s******.

Just a few facts asshole,
Republican president, forced from office. (Richard, "I am not a crook"
nixon)

Republican VP, resigned after being convicted of felony tax evasion.
(spiro agnew

Republican state rep. george petak, recalled, the only successful
recall on any state level in the 20th century.

And lest we forget, the newt and his tax evasion that didn't work.

Good record, huh? All conservatives have two faces, the one they
show, and the crooks they are.

Lennie the Lurker wrote:

Gunner wrote in message . ..

Im sure your spinmeisters can think up a few more...s******.


Just a few facts asshole,
Republican president, forced from office. (Richard, "I am not a crook"
nixon)

Republican VP, resigned after being convicted of felony tax evasion.
(spiro agnew

Republican state rep. george petak, recalled, the only successful
recall on any state level in the 20th century.

And lest we forget, the newt and his tax evasion that didn't work.

Good record, huh? All conservatives have two faces, the one they
show, and the crooks they are.

The thing that really surprises me is that you could
like either party. They both have plenty of scumbags
and I know you're smart enough to know that. So what
is it that causes you to like democrat scumbags and hate
republican scumbag?

In article , Jim says...

The thing that really surprises me is that you could
like either party. They both have plenty of scumbags
and I know you're smart enough to know that. So what
is it that causes you to like democrat scumbags and hate
republican scumbag?

Obvious: it's the *exact* same thing that causes
gunner to drool over republican scumbags and detest
democratic ones.

Jim

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(Lennie the Lurker) wrote:

Republican state rep. george petak, recalled, the only successful
recall on any state level in the 20th century.

What about 1921, when North Dakota Gov. Lynn J. Frazier was removed
from office?

Where that label of "idiot" well, dude. You earned it.

ral

(Frank White) wrote in message ...

This kind of reminds me of Argentina as it was collapsing,
where there were vicious political fights over who was going
to be steering what was basically a sinking ship...

FW


In CA, the ship has sunk, the fighting is over how many holes to punch
in the lifeboats...

Stan

"PrecisionMachinisT" wrote in message
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"Uncle_Phil" wrote in message
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"Gunner" wrote in message
...

Maybe you can convert them.......Should be easy, provided they have
the
intelligence you credit them with........Makes ya wonder how many of
em
used
to be republicans before they got stupid.......

None. that I know of.

James Baker (of Baker Bill fame?) -- of course he suffered brain damage
from
the bullet he took in the Reagan assasination attempt.....



Actually, that was James Brady--and it was the the "Brady Bill"........

--

SVL

Sorry -- senior moment......

In article ,
says...

Where that label of "idiot" well, dude.

I think this honestly speaks for itself.

Jim

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"michael" wrote in message
...
Steve Day wrote:

Yup the Californians are revolting ?? )

We obviously don't have a monopoly on that.

michael


Definitely no monopoly there. We in Tennessee have revolted the past several
years. I and my 2 yr old were right there on the capital steps holding signs
with the rest. We didn't get the taxes the Dems tried to foist on us. The
traitor governor realized he would never be elected again and didn't even
run.

Davrodiver

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
BTW..doomed to failure? I notice you posting on the subject...seems to
be working....G

Doomed to negativity, e.g. flame wars. There's one going on right now in
fact.
BTW you forgot to answer my question.

Tim

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"Richard Lewis" wrote in message
. net...
(Lennie the Lurker) wrote:

Republican state rep. george petak, recalled, the only successful
recall on any state level in the 20th century.

What about 1921, when North Dakota Gov. Lynn J. Frazier was removed
from office?

And, what about when we threw Ev out as governer of Arizona in the late
80's?



Where that label of "idiot" well, dude. You earned it.

ral

In article ,
says...

"Richard Lewis" wrote in message
. net...
(Lennie the Lurker) wrote:

Republican state rep. george petak, recalled, the only successful
recall on any state level in the 20th century.

What about 1921, when North Dakota Gov. Lynn J. Frazier was removed
from office?

And, what about when we threw Ev out as governer of Arizona in the late
80's?

Now there you go guys. Throwing in a few facts and screwing up Lenin's
rant.

Oh wait - you meant *that* 20th century? Never mind...
Rick

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:19:29 -0500, "Tim Williams"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
BTW..doomed to failure? I notice you posting on the subject...seems to
be working....G

Doomed to negativity, e.g. flame wars. There's one going on right now in
fact.
BTW you forgot to answer my question.

Tim

What was the question?

Gunner

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty
is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
-- Ben Franklin

On 24 Jul 2003 15:34:36 -0700, jim rozen
wrote:

In article , Jim says...

The thing that really surprises me is that you could
like either party. They both have plenty of scumbags
and I know you're smart enough to know that. So what
is it that causes you to like democrat scumbags and hate
republican scumbag?

Obvious: it's the *exact* same thing that causes
gunner to drool over republican scumbags and detest
democratic ones.

Jim

Pist.....Jimboy... I detest scumbags of any party. I wish the same could
be said of you. Shrug. Mind numbed DNC drone comes to mind...G

Gunner

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty
is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
-- Ben Franklin

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
What was the question?

Look up..

Typical..****ing typical of the Left. Put Grandma
out on the street simply to stay in power.

... since when were the dem's out to do that? What with their welfare,
SS and such..(?)

Tim

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