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Any input on Miller welders?
Did it take you long to pick up TIG welding?
"Lane" wrote in message ... I own a Syncro 250 and love it. Lane wrote in message .com... I'm looking at getting the Miller Syncrowave 190 SD. http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...rowave_180_sd/ Anyone have any input on how good these welders are, or Miller welders in general? Thanks everyone |
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[[ This message was both posted and mailed: see
the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]] In article , wrote: I'm looking at getting the Miller Syncrowave 190 SD. http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...rowave_180_sd/ Anyone have any input on how good these welders are, or Miller welders in general? Thanks everyone The Syncrowave 180SD is the best small transformer on the market. Next down is the Lincoln Squarewave 175. The Syncro 180 is just a little better, and it has digital readouts. Another machine to look at in the same class for about the same money is the Thermal Arc Prowave 185TSW inverter. It weighs about 32 pounds instead of 200 lbs and only needs a 30 amp circuit, instead of a 60 amp circuit. Yet it has the same amperage range. Thermal Arc 185TSW ($1600) http://rochweld.safeshopper.com/24/458.htm?709 |
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Any input on Miller welders?
I'm looking at getting the Miller Syncrowave 190 SD.
I have the Syncrowave 180 and find it to be an excellent machine. Very good stick capabilities, and good TIG function too. Gary Brady Austin, TX |
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Any input on Miller welders?
wrote in message .com... I'm looking at getting the Miller Syncrowave 190 SD. http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...rowave_180_sd/ Anyone have any input on how good these welders are, or Miller welders in general? Thanks everyone Miller is an excellent maker of welding equipment. The only downside is that they are currently embarking on a policy not to stock parts on anything older than ten years. Lincoln is a good alternative. Steve |
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Any input on Miller welders?
What is your source of info? Is it on Millers site? I'm interested because
I am planning on buying a plasma torch soon. Thanks Miller is an excellent maker of welding equipment. The only downside is that they are currently embarking on a policy not to stock parts on anything older than ten years. Lincoln is a good alternative. Steve |
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Any input on Miller welders?
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 02:00:10 GMT, wrote:
I'm looking at getting the Miller Syncrowave 190 SD. http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...rowave_180_sd/ Anyone have any input on how good these welders are, or Miller welders in general? I own several pieces of Miller equipment, including a 180SD. Miller equipment in general is top grade, and the 180SD is the best small transformer TIG on the market. That said, you *might* want to give inverter technology a close look before going with a transformer machine. The new Dynasty 200DX in particular is one sweet piece of equipment. It costs a bit more, but it weighs a lot less, and has more features. Until this new machine came out, I would have whole heartedly recommended the 180SD as the best machine in this capability range. But today, the Dynasty 200DX makes it a much more difficult choice. Gary |
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:21:35 -0700, "Desert Traveler" wrote
It has been a source of discussion at sci.engr.joining.welding over the past few weeks. But oddly enough, you've been the only poster making the claim. Gary |
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"mrbonaparte" wrote in message
news:24KTa.24015$Ne.12712@fed1read03... What kind of answers did you get for the plasma torch? I've been looking at Hobart as well. Thanks The odds on favorite is the HyperTherm. This is based on reliability, service, spare parts, consumables and performance. I like the 380. This will do up to 3/8" steel, but is really rated for anything less than that. One caveat: if you need to do larger stuff, you are going to get into two new areas. One is that a lot of those require 50 amps or MORE, and they will require a much larger compressor. So, if you are only going to do small stuff, it might be better, and more economical, to buy an additional oxy/acet rig for the thick stuff. You can get a Victor for about $250 used. Sometimes less. Be sure to check your electrical service so you don't find out you have to run 220 out there at a cost of $$$$$. You can always use multiple smaller tanks on a small compressor. BE SURE TO SET UP BLEEDERS AND WATER TRAPS, AS MOISTURE CUTS DOWN COMSUMABLES LIFE BY UP TO 75%. That is straight from the factory reps. I am a Lincoln fan. I grew up with them, and that was all we used in the oil patch. Millers have improved, and I have had a couple of Millers that were outstanding. I was hesitant about buying anything but a Lincoln, but after talking to the guys at the welding group, I found out that the HyperTherm was the way to go. I thought it was a cheapo knockoff Harbor Freight type of deal at first. But upon more investigation found it to be the way to go. I have just returned from LA where I have firmed up some areas on my business plan. I have been researching equipment for about six months now, and have arrived at these choices for my application: Lincoln 175 Squarewave Tig Hypertherm 380 Plasma Cutter Victor Journeyman Torch Set Bender Horizontal Band Saw 1/2" Drillpress Hydraulic Bender and Press I already have a Lincoln 175+ wirefeed, chop saw, grinders, etc. I will be making custom wrought iron kitchen stuff for architechts and interior designers. I will also be decorating my two houses with a proliferation of various ornamental metal, awning, structural, and water features. Plus all the trailer modifications and ATV stuff. Do yer homework before you buy, particularly on big ticket items. Buy quality ......... it lasts. And hang out at the sci.engr.joining.welding newsgroup for a while and just read. Lots of really good info there, and helpful people. Surprisingly few grumps and trolls, as compared to some newsgroups. You can get some good and quick advice there. Steve PS: Never liked Hobart. Some people swear by them, but the majority of Hobart machines I have ever seen in my 30 years of welding were sitting in a corner, full of dust, waiting on missing parts, and had some sad tale of woe that went with them. It has been a source of discussion at sci.engr.joining.welding over the past few weeks. And there is currently a discussion of a question I put there about which plasma torch to buy. Lincoln and Miller run third and fourth in that discussion. I am a Lincoln fan, and like Miller, but would buy neither of their plasma torches. Steve |
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Any input on Miller welders?
"Gary Coffman" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:21:35 -0700, "Desert Traveler" wrote It has been a source of discussion at sci.engr.joining.welding over the past few weeks. But oddly enough, you've been the only poster making the claim. Gary Whaaaaa? If you would care to research your statement at Google, you would find that I have never made that claim in the welding NG. I only posted it here, and I am only repeating what I read there. FYI, I have been traveling most of the past few weeks. I know you are a Miller fan. They make good stuff. But companies change, and if I were to be laying out $$$ right now for a new machine, I would like to be reasonably sure that I could get spare parts for it ten years from now. YMMV. Steve |
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Thanks for your experienced input. It's good info to know.
thanks again. "Desert Traveler" wrote in message news:ygVTa.26386$Ne.24959@fed1read03... "mrbonaparte" wrote in message news:24KTa.24015$Ne.12712@fed1read03... What kind of answers did you get for the plasma torch? I've been looking at Hobart as well. Thanks The odds on favorite is the HyperTherm. This is based on reliability, service, spare parts, consumables and performance. I like the 380. This will do up to 3/8" steel, but is really rated for anything less than that. One caveat: if you need to do larger stuff, you are going to get into two new areas. One is that a lot of those require 50 amps or MORE, and they will require a much larger compressor. So, if you are only going to do small stuff, it might be better, and more economical, to buy an additional oxy/acet rig for the thick stuff. You can get a Victor for about $250 used. Sometimes less. Be sure to check your electrical service so you don't find out you have to run 220 out there at a cost of $$$$$. You can always use multiple smaller tanks on a small compressor. BE SURE TO SET UP BLEEDERS AND WATER TRAPS, AS MOISTURE CUTS DOWN COMSUMABLES LIFE BY UP TO 75%. That is straight from the factory reps. I am a Lincoln fan. I grew up with them, and that was all we used in the oil patch. Millers have improved, and I have had a couple of Millers that were outstanding. I was hesitant about buying anything but a Lincoln, but after talking to the guys at the welding group, I found out that the HyperTherm was the way to go. I thought it was a cheapo knockoff Harbor Freight type of deal at first. But upon more investigation found it to be the way to go. I have just returned from LA where I have firmed up some areas on my business plan. I have been researching equipment for about six months now, and have arrived at these choices for my application: Lincoln 175 Squarewave Tig Hypertherm 380 Plasma Cutter Victor Journeyman Torch Set Bender Horizontal Band Saw 1/2" Drillpress Hydraulic Bender and Press I already have a Lincoln 175+ wirefeed, chop saw, grinders, etc. I will be making custom wrought iron kitchen stuff for architechts and interior designers. I will also be decorating my two houses with a proliferation of various ornamental metal, awning, structural, and water features. Plus all the trailer modifications and ATV stuff. Do yer homework before you buy, particularly on big ticket items. Buy quality ......... it lasts. And hang out at the sci.engr.joining.welding newsgroup for a while and just read. Lots of really good info there, and helpful people. Surprisingly few grumps and trolls, as compared to some newsgroups. You can get some good and quick advice there. Steve PS: Never liked Hobart. Some people swear by them, but the majority of Hobart machines I have ever seen in my 30 years of welding were sitting in a corner, full of dust, waiting on missing parts, and had some sad tale of woe that went with them. It has been a source of discussion at sci.engr.joining.welding over the past few weeks. And there is currently a discussion of a question I put there about which plasma torch to buy. Lincoln and Miller run third and fourth in that discussion. I am a Lincoln fan, and like Miller, but would buy neither of their plasma torches. Steve |
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Any input on Miller welders?
In article , Old Nick
wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:18:14 -0700, Ernie Leimkuhler wrote something ......and in reply I say!: Ernie PMFJI Is there a duty cycle issue with the inverter machine? Ta in advance and all that. The Thermal Arc 185TSW has a duty cycle of 30% at 185 amps. The Miller Syncro 180Sd has a Duty cycle of 30% at 180 amps. Not much difference. Tough choice. Another machine to look at in the same class for about the same money is the Thermal Arc Prowave 185TSW inverter. It weighs about 32 pounds instead of 200 lbs and only needs a 30 amp circuit, instead of a 60 amp circuit. Yet it has the same amperage range. Thermal Arc 185TSW ($1600) http://rochweld.safeshopper.com/24/458.htm?709 ************************************************** **************************** ************ Huh! Old age!. You may hate it, but let me tell you, you can't get by for long without it! Nick White --- HEAD:Hertz Music Please remove ns from my header address to reply via email !! ") _/ ) ( ) _//- \__/ |
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Any input on Miller welders?
"Desert Traveler" wrote in message news:z1KTa.24007$Ne.5736@fed1read03...
"mrbonaparte" wrote in message news:jXJTa.23991$Ne.4865@fed1read03... What is your source of info? Is it on Millers site? I'm interested because I am planning on buying a plasma torch soon. Thanks Miller is an excellent maker of welding equipment. The only downside is that they are currently embarking on a policy not to stock parts on anything older than ten years. Lincoln is a good alternative. Steve It has been a source of discussion at sci.engr.joining.welding over the past few weeks. And there is currently a discussion of a question I put there about which plasma torch to buy. Lincoln and Miller run third and fourth in that discussion. I am a Lincoln fan, and like Miller, but would buy neither of their plasma torches. Steve I have a Miller Spectrum 2050 and I love it. Plus, it has a Hypertherm Torch on it direct from the factory. Mine sees *Hard* use in the shop and has not missed a beat. -Steve |
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:18:14 -0700, Ernie Leimkuhler
wrote something .......and in reply I say!: Ernie PMFJI Is there a duty cycle issue with the inverter machine? Ta in advance and all that. Another machine to look at in the same class for about the same money is the Thermal Arc Prowave 185TSW inverter. It weighs about 32 pounds instead of 200 lbs and only needs a 30 amp circuit, instead of a 60 amp circuit. Yet it has the same amperage range. Thermal Arc 185TSW ($1600) http://rochweld.safeshopper.com/24/458.htm?709 ************************************************** **************************************** Huh! Old age!. You may hate it, but let me tell you, you can't get by for long without it! Nick White --- HEAD:Hertz Music Please remove ns from my header address to reply via email !! ") _/ ) ( ) _//- \__/ |
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