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What do you call a bench grinder fixture without the inline motor?
It's made of cast iron with holes to bolt to the bench top; its just a stand
with bronze bushings (oil caps on top) for the arbor with a pully in the middle that you hook up to a motor behind. You can put a grinding wheel, wire wheel or buffer on either side. There are tool rests, but no wheel guards of any kind. I've got one and want to put it on ebay but haven't the foggiest idea what they are called. I've Googled and searched on Ebay every which way but can't find another one to compare it to. What are these things called? I'm sure its an antique. Lane |
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:54:11 -0700, "Lane" lane (no spam) at
copperaccents dot com wrote: It's made of cast iron with holes to bolt to the bench top; its just a stand with bronze bushings (oil caps on top) for the arbor with a pully in the middle that you hook up to a motor behind. You can put a grinding wheel, wire wheel or buffer on either side. There are tool rests, but no wheel guards of any kind. I've got one and want to put it on ebay but haven't the foggiest idea what they are called. I've Googled and searched on Ebay every which way but can't find another one to compare it to. What are these things called? I'm sure its an antique. Lane Antique Grinder? G Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" |
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"Gunner" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:54:11 -0700, "Lane" lane (no spam) at copperaccents dot com wrote: It's made of cast iron with holes to bolt to the bench top; its just a stand with bronze bushings (oil caps on top) for the arbor with a pully in the middle that you hook up to a motor behind. You can put a grinding wheel, wire wheel or buffer on either side. There are tool rests, but no wheel guards of any kind. I've got one and want to put it on ebay but haven't the foggiest idea what they are called. I've Googled and searched on Ebay every which way but can't find another one to compare it to. What are these things called? I'm sure its an antique. Lane Antique Grinder? That may be as good as anything. We'll see what else people come up with. |
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Arbor
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Antique???? That is no antique! I have one in my shop that gets a lot
of use. Have a wire wheel on the left and a flap wheel on the right. Driven by a 1/3 hp motor, if I remember correctly. I built a moveable stand from an old swivel chair and have the motor below the "antique grinder". Belt goes through a notch in the table. In fact it is the only stationary wire brush/sander in the shop. Why not put is to use rather than sell it? Paul |
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wrote in message oups.com... Antique???? That is no antique! I have one in my shop that gets a lot of use. Have a wire wheel on the left and a flap wheel on the right. Driven by a 1/3 hp motor, if I remember correctly. I built a moveable stand from an old swivel chair and have the motor below the "antique grinder". Belt goes through a notch in the table. In fact it is the only stationary wire brush/sander in the shop. Why not put is to use rather than sell it? Paul Yea it probably is an antique. I don't think you can buy these anymore. The liability lawyers wouldn't allow it. I used to use it as my only bench grinder. Now I have two normal "electrified ones", one I got when Dad passed on and a bigger one from a garage sale for $5. I just don't need this one anylonger, nor do I have the room for it. I'm cleaning stuff out that I haven't used in 5 years. Lane |
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Lane no spam wrote: It's made of cast iron with holes to bolt to the bench top; its just a stand with bronze bushings (oil caps on top) for the arbor with a pully in the middle that you hook up to a motor behind. You can put a grinding wheel, wire wheel or buffer on either side. There are tool rests, but no wheel guards of any kind. I've got one and want to put it on ebay but haven't the foggiest idea what they are called. I've Googled and searched on Ebay every which way but can't find another one to compare it to. What are these things called? I'm sure its an antique. Lane The one I inherited says "Montgomery Ward" on one line on the decal and "Grinding Arbor" on the next. My grandfather used an old washing machine motor in combination with a wheeled sign frame from his gas station to mount it. It replaced his old hand-crank grinder out in the garage. Uses 6" wheels and has very cheesy guards and tool rests on it. It worked well enough to sharpen lawnmower blades, anyway. This one is a deluxe version, has ball bearings. Stan |
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Looks like the name is also "grinding head".
Check out this url: http://www.roseantiquetools.com/imag...25,%2025%201/2 Or just look through reseantiquetools.com for the picture from the old catalog. Paul |
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wrote in message oups.com... Looks like the name is also "grinding head". Check out this url: http://www.roseantiquetools.com/imag...25,%2025%201/2 Or just look through reseantiquetools.com for the picture from the old catalog. Paul Thanks, I like the term "grinding head". |
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The one I inherited says "Montgomery Ward" on one line on the decal and "Grinding Arbor" on the next. My grandfather used an old washing machine motor in combination with a wheeled sign frame from his gas station to mount it. It replaced his old hand-crank grinder out in the garage. Uses 6" wheels and has very cheesy guards and tool rests on it. It worked well enough to sharpen lawnmower blades, anyway. This one is a deluxe version, has ball bearings. Stan Thanks. Mine doesn't have any label or other identifying marks at all. |
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These can be better then modern bench grinders in one respect. When
you mount a finishing wheel e.g. a buffing wheel and you are finishing a long shaft, it's nice to not have the motor to interfere. - GWE Lane wrote: "Daniel A. Mitchell" wrote in message ... wrote: Arbor I've never heard them called anything but a 'bench grinder'. Most were driven by an external motor via a pulley and belt(s) ... the integral motor is just a newer version. There were VERY common through W.W.-II. I have two of them (6" and 10") still in service mounted in my garage. They are from my dad's shop. They are bolted to a sturdy bench, with the motors mounted above and behind them on the wall. I just use them for 'snag' grinding now (and only occasionally), as I now have far better grinders in my shop. The 10" has a HUGE but only 1/2 hp.(they're LARGE 'horses') repulsion-induction motor on it with a double belt. These grinders are fine for rough work, but the belts cause some vibration that is undesirable for more precise work. Dan Mitchell ============ Thanks Dan! Thats what I thought but didn't know for sure. |
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Lane no spam wrote: It's made of cast iron with holes to bolt to the bench top; its just a stand with bronze bushings (oil caps on top) for the arbor with a pully in the middle that you hook up to a motor behind. You can put a grinding wheel, wire wheel or buffer on either side. I've usually heard them called a "grinding arbor" or "buffing arbor", or sometimes just "arbor". If you're really lucky, you can even find them with a chuck on one end, I assume for use with small grinding points and carbide burrs. Since eBay seems driven by search words more than actual descriptions, how about "belt driven bench grinder buffer wire wheel arbor"? And no, I don't need one, I've got a couple of "Millers Falls" ones I need to mount one of these days... --Glenn Lyford |
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On 21 Apr 2005 11:07:54 -0700, wrote:
Looks like the name is also "grinding head". Check out this url: http://www.roseantiquetools.com/imag...25,%2025%201/2 Or just look through reseantiquetools.com for the picture from the old catalog. Paul I was pretty sure that is what he was taking about and I have never seen one before. I'd love to have one of something like that cause I make some weird stuff at times and the more space close to the work the best. |
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"Sunworshipper" wrote in message I was pretty sure that is what he was taking about and I have never seen one before. I'd love to have one of something like that cause I make some weird stuff at times and the more space close to the work the best. You're in luck, I just put it on eBay. Be the high bidder and it is yours. Item number = 4375586211 Lane |
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:38:29 -0700, "Lane" lane (no spam) at
copperaccents dot com wrote: "Sunworshipper" wrote in message I was pretty sure that is what he was taking about and I have never seen one before. I'd love to have one of something like that cause I make some weird stuff at times and the more space close to the work the best. You're in luck, I just put it on eBay. Be the high bidder and it is yours. Item number = 4375586211 Lane I need the link (no wrap around) and the $. ) |
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"Sunworshipper" wrote in message I need the link (no wrap around) and the $. ) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=4375586211 |
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The bench arbor I had allowed me to have the belt go straight down.
This was helpful because the motor I used just hung on a hinge to keep the tension on the belt. My old one (it was made by Millers Falls) chattered. I discovered if I pushed with a finger on the end of the spindle the chatter went away so I diagnosed end play. I tore down the spindle and made up a shim. Ran quiet. Couple of months later it started again. I gave up chasing that chatter and just lived with it. I never used mine with a grinding wheel, just a buffing wheel on one side and a rock polishing drum sander about 6" in diameter on the other. That was one awesome polishing setup. That drum grabbed a carpet knife I was sharpening (the hook kind) and flung it right in my face. I was wearing a face shield and it took the whole hit. It destroyed the face shield but I was fine (although a little freaked out). I hung that face shield in my shop for a few years to make sure my kids got the point. And I never tried to sharpen a hook knife again. GWE |
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:54:11 -0700, the inscrutable "Lane" lane (no
spam) at copperaccents dot com spake: It's made of cast iron with holes to bolt to the bench top; its just a stand with bronze bushings (oil caps on top) for the arbor with a pully in the middle that you hook up to a motor behind. You can put a grinding wheel, wire wheel or buffer on either side. There are tool rests, but no wheel guards of any kind. I've got one and want to put it on ebay but haven't the foggiest idea what they are called. I've Googled and searched on Ebay every which way but can't find another one to compare it to. What are these things called? I'm sure its an antique. Lee Valley calls them "double-ended mandrels." http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...=1,43072,45939 I have a similar beast I'll turn into a horizontal mortiser some day. (Paid $2 for it at an Old Iron auction in Sandy Eggo.) ================================================== ======= What doesn't kill you + http://diversify.com ....makes you hurt more. + Web application programming ================================================== ======= |
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agree, "arbor" is the proper technical term
look it up if you don't agree wrote in message oups.com... Arbor |
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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show "Lane" lane (no spam) at
copperaccents dot com wrote back on Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:54:11 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking : It's made of cast iron with holes to bolt to the bench top; its just a stand with bronze bushings (oil caps on top) for the arbor with a pully in the middle that you hook up to a motor behind. You can put a grinding wheel, wire wheel or buffer on either side. There are tool rests, but no wheel guards of any kind. I've got one and want to put it on ebay but haven't the foggiest idea what they are called. I've Googled and searched on Ebay every which way but can't find another one to compare it to. What are these things called? I'm sure its an antique. If it is an antique, call it that "Antique Bench Grinder" Otherwise, "belt driven bench grinder." Lane -- pyotr filipivich. as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with." |
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Top posted to keep things interesting:
I bought one from Graingers last year (#6L099). They still list them in the catalog, but they are called Ball Bearing Mandrels. I call them Bench Arbors. I do wish the shaft was a little longer than 12", but it works just fine, driven by a (real) 3/4 HP motor. Joe Lane wrote: It's made of cast iron with holes to bolt to the bench top; its just a stand with bronze bushings (oil caps on top) for the arbor with a pully in the middle that you hook up to a motor behind. You can put a grinding wheel, wire wheel or buffer on either side. There are tool rests, but no wheel guards of any kind. I've got one and want to put it on ebay but haven't the foggiest idea what they are called. I've Googled and searched on Ebay every which way but can't find another one to compare it to. What are these things called? I'm sure its an antique. Lane |
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