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I started to buy some paint today for a Hardinge TFB we are
restoring. Since I had some hardener and reducer I wanted the paint to
match. I had Hardinge's paint color number G-7 from Sherwin-Williams so
that is where I started.
I knew the local "residential" paint store couldn't help me so I
called the "industrial" S-W store. They couldn't use the paint code I
had so I called Hardinge. They said G-7 was an internal number and
gave me a much longer number. I then called the "industrial" S-W store
back, where I was informed that I needed to talk to the "chemical" S-W
store. They couldn't help me but suggested part of my paint code number
"might" be a store number. They found the phone number for the store in
Elmira, NY and I called them. No, they didn't make paint for Hardinge,
the "chemical" S-W store in Rochester did. I then called Rochester, NY
to learn they were the only source in the world for Hardinge paint.
Yes, I could buy a gallon of their paint for $90.00, a quart of
hardener for $50.00 and shipping would be $30.00. Whoa! $170.00 for
just the paint on a lathe is way too much. No, they could not supply
another store or anyone for that matter with a color formula. Only they
could make the paint. I called the "automotive" S-W store and yes, they
could make the paint that matched my hardener and reducer. I swung by
with a small part for a color sample and the two quarts will be ready
tomorrow and probably they can deliver it. I am pretty sure catalyized
polyurethane will hold up to the cutting fluids a TFB will see though I
know it wouldn't hold up to spray synthetic water based coolant.
No wonder it takes so long to get a machine painted. It took two
hours of phone calls just to order the paint. BTW, we are getting some
very nice looking paint jobs with Rust-O-Leum marine enamel. It dries
pretty fast, for an enamel, and has a great gloss. Price was right too
at $5.00 a quart from the local Habitat for Humanity Re-Store.
Durabilty is an unknown but since we are painting drill press and a
huge Famco arbor press it probably won't be an issue. These seldom see
coolants. Leigh@MarMachine

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tomorrow and probably they can deliver it. I am pretty sure catalyized
polyurethane will hold up to the cutting fluids a TFB will see though I
know it wouldn't hold up to spray synthetic water based coolant.
No wonder it takes so long to get a machine painted. It took two
hours of phone calls just to order the paint. BTW, we are getting some
very nice looking paint jobs with Rust-O-Leum marine enamel. It dries
pretty fast, for an enamel, and has a great gloss. Price was right too
at $5.00 a quart from the local Habitat for Humanity Re-Store.
Durabilty is an unknown but since we are painting drill press and a
huge Famco arbor press it probably won't be an issue. These seldom see
coolants. Leigh@MarMachine



Leigh

I have a Hardinge CHNC to paint in a few months. It WILL see a lot of
coolant. Do you know what I should use? Stuck with $170 from Hardinge? FWIW,
this is a remanufactured machine direct from Hardinge and I'm putting a
brand new control on it so I want it right. Hardinge has painted the main
machine, I have control cabinets and accessories to paint.

Karl


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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:48:26 GMT, "Karl Townsend"
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tomorrow and probably they can deliver it. I am pretty sure catalyized
polyurethane will hold up to the cutting fluids a TFB will see though I
know it wouldn't hold up to spray synthetic water based coolant.
No wonder it takes so long to get a machine painted. It took two
hours of phone calls just to order the paint. BTW, we are getting some
very nice looking paint jobs with Rust-O-Leum marine enamel. It dries
pretty fast, for an enamel, and has a great gloss. Price was right too
at $5.00 a quart from the local Habitat for Humanity Re-Store.
Durabilty is an unknown but since we are painting drill press and a
huge Famco arbor press it probably won't be an issue. These seldom see
coolants. Leigh@MarMachine



Leigh

I have a Hardinge CHNC to paint in a few months. It WILL see a lot of
coolant. Do you know what I should use? Stuck with $170 from Hardinge? FWIW,
this is a remanufactured machine direct from Hardinge and I'm putting a
brand new control on it so I want it right. Hardinge has painted the main
machine, I have control cabinets and accessories to paint.

Karl

Greetings Karl,
I don't know how well Parker Paints will hold up but I'd give them a
call. I have used their Marathon brand oil based paint and it has been
the most durable paint I've ever used. I've used it on machine tools
and it holds up very well to cutting oil and coolant. It is a little
more expensive than some of the cheaper brands but not any more costly
than other good paints. I used the stuff to paint the bottom of a boat
once that I car topped and dragged up and down beaches to launch and
even with that kind of abuse it held up well. Here's their web
address: http://www.parkerpaint.com/
Good luck,
Eric R Snow
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