On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:13:18 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
wrote:

gummer drooled:

I didnt know you were an anti-semite.


Oh really Gunner now I'm what because I make observations and
listen well ?

http://tinyurl.com/945qk

HTH
--
Cliff

Cliff wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:13:18 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
wrote:

gummer drooled:

I didnt know you were an anti-semite.


Oh really Gunner now I'm what because I make observations and
listen well ?

http://tinyurl.com/945qk

[
Main Entry: Sem=B7ite
Pronunciation: 'se-"mIt, esp British 'sE-"mIt
Function: noun
Etymology: French s=E9mite, from Semitic Shem, from Late Latin, from
Greek SEm, from Hebrew ShEm
Date: 1848
1 a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern
Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs b : a
descendant of these peoples
2 : a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language
]

The above link shows gummer to be the biggest proponent
of anti-Semitism in any of these groups.
What a bigot.
--=20
Cliff

wrote in message oups.com...

Cliff wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:13:18 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
wrote:

gummer drooled:

I didnt know you were an anti-semite.


Oh really Gunner now I'm what because I make observations and
listen well ?

http://tinyurl.com/945qk

[
Main Entry: Sem·ite
Pronunciation: 'se-"mIt, esp British 'sE-"mIt
Function: noun
Etymology: French sémite, from Semitic Shem, from Late Latin, from
Greek SEm, from Hebrew ShEm
Date: 1848
1 a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern
Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs b : a
descendant of these peoples
2 : a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language
]

The above link shows gummer to be the biggest proponent
of anti-Semitism in any of these groups.
What a bigot.
--

Cliff, I'm trying to figure out if he is/was a member of the KKK ??
Hard to prove none the less. I'm not sure where this person came
to a conclusion that he is/was a Klan member, besides the common
racial slurs which seem to be evident.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...2?dmode=source
[
That you are racist is a fact.

Cites?

Oh, we can start with your slurs against Arabs (diaperheads in your
parlance), Mexicans (who you refer to as "wets"), and pretty much ever
other non-white (whose countries you refer to as "turd-world"). Sound
familiar, klanner?

Diaperheads. Indeed. Its a insult directed towards those wearing the
keffiyeh.
]

Thread remainder picks up he

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...35f047222a f2


John

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:34:30 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
wrote:


wrote in message oups.com...

Cliff wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:13:18 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
wrote:

gummer drooled:

I didnt know you were an anti-semite.


Oh really Gunner now I'm what because I make observations and
listen well ?

http://tinyurl.com/945qk

[
Main Entry: Sem·ite
Pronunciation: 'se-"mIt, esp British 'sE-"mIt
Function: noun
Etymology: French sémite, from Semitic Shem, from Late Latin, from
Greek SEm, from Hebrew ShEm
Date: 1848
1 a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern
Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs b : a
descendant of these peoples
2 : a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language
]

The above link shows gummer to be the biggest proponent
of anti-Semitism in any of these groups.
What a bigot.

This all has what to do with your apparent anti-semitism?

Anti-semitism

"Prejudice against Jews. Christians have long since despised the Jew
as the killer of Christ. They were despised in the middle ages as the
lenders of money for gain (such usury was forbidden to Christians).
Modern antisemitism rose up in the pogroms in Russia and Hungary
(1882) and spread across Europe compelling thousands of Jew to flee to
the more tolerant Britain and USA. Hitler and the Nazis blamed German
problems on the Jews during the 1930s and attacks against their
property progressed to the systematic murder of 6 million during WWII.
Some of the more affluent and lucky escaped"
www.embassy.org.nz/encycl/a3aencyc.htm

Shalom

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:24:46 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:34:30 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
wrote:


wrote in message oups.com...

Cliff wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:13:18 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
wrote:

gummer drooled:

I didnt know you were an anti-semite.


Oh really Gunner now I'm what because I make observations and
listen well ?

http://tinyurl.com/945qk

[
Main Entry: Sem·ite
Pronunciation: 'se-"mIt, esp British 'sE-"mIt
Function: noun
Etymology: French sémite, from Semitic Shem, from Late Latin, from
Greek SEm, from Hebrew ShEm
Date: 1848
1 a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern
Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs b : a
descendant of these peoples
2 : a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language
]

The above link shows gummer to be the biggest proponent
of anti-Semitism in any of these groups.
What a bigot.

This all has what to do with your apparent anti-semitism?

Anti-semitism

"Prejudice against Jews.

Nope.

Anti-
[
Main Entry: Sem·ite
Pronunciation: 'se-"mIt, esp British 'sE-"mIt
Function: noun
Etymology: French sémite, from Semitic Shem, from Late Latin, from
Greek SEm, from Hebrew ShEm
Date: 1848
1 a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern
Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs b : a
descendant of these peoples
2 : a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language
]

You are a bigot, gummer.
You clearly practice a LOT of anti-Semitism, among oter things,
in your hate groups.

Christians have long since despised the Jew
as the killer of Christ.

Have they? I thought that they praised the reputed death and
tried to eat him & drink his blood.
That's cannibalism, right?

They were despised in the middle ages as the
lenders of money for gain (such usury was forbidden to Christians).

The church was more than happy to borrow for it's wars
of hatred & agression and pay interest.

Modern antisemitism rose up in the pogroms in Russia and Hungary
(1882) and spread across Europe compelling thousands of Jew to flee to
the more tolerant Britain and USA. Hitler and the Nazis blamed German
problems on the Jews during the 1930s and attacks against their
property progressed to the systematic murder of 6 million during WWII.
Some of the more affluent and lucky escaped"
www.embassy.org.nz/encycl/a3aencyc.htm

Shalom

Who do you blame your problems on? Other than being
a bigoted anti-Semite .....
--
Cliff

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

He's getting good at it but not dead AFIK.
--
Cliff

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:00:56 -0400, Cliff wrote:

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:24:46 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:34:30 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
wrote:


wrote in message oups.com...

Cliff wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:13:18 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
wrote:

gummer drooled:

I didnt know you were an anti-semite.


Oh really Gunner now I'm what because I make observations and
listen well ?

http://tinyurl.com/945qk

[
Main Entry: Sem·ite
Pronunciation: 'se-"mIt, esp British 'sE-"mIt
Function: noun
Etymology: French sémite, from Semitic Shem, from Late Latin, from
Greek SEm, from Hebrew ShEm
Date: 1848
1 a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern
Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs b : a
descendant of these peoples
2 : a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language
]

The above link shows gummer to be the biggest proponent
of anti-Semitism in any of these groups.
What a bigot.

This all has what to do with your apparent anti-semitism?

Anti-semitism

"Prejudice against Jews.

Nope.

Anti-
[
Main Entry: Sem·ite
Pronunciation: 'se-"mIt, esp British 'sE-"mIt
Function: noun
Etymology: French sémite, from Semitic Shem, from Late Latin, from
Greek SEm, from Hebrew ShEm
Date: 1848
1 a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern
Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs b : a
descendant of these peoples
2 : a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language
]

You are a bigot, gummer.
You clearly practice a LOT of anti-Semitism, among oter things,
in your hate groups.

Christians have long since despised the Jew
as the killer of Christ.

Have they? I thought that they praised the reputed death and
tried to eat him & drink his blood.
That's cannibalism, right?

They were despised in the middle ages as the
lenders of money for gain (such usury was forbidden to Christians).

The church was more than happy to borrow for it's wars
of hatred & agression and pay interest.

Modern antisemitism rose up in the pogroms in Russia and Hungary
(1882) and spread across Europe compelling thousands of Jew to flee to
the more tolerant Britain and USA. Hitler and the Nazis blamed German
problems on the Jews during the 1930s and attacks against their
property progressed to the systematic murder of 6 million during WWII.
Some of the more affluent and lucky escaped"
www.embassy.org.nz/encycl/a3aencyc.htm

Shalom

Who do you blame your problems on? Other than being
a bigoted anti-Semite .....
--
Cliff

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

He's getting good at it but not dead AFIK.

This isn't cross posted? Hey Cliff ! If your not listening go
anywhere but RCM. Gunner explained it the best I've ever heard other
than my own conjectures. Your off the deep end , its a fact
basically.

Oh, what was the one on the radio this morning, ahhh what will the
new pope eat for breakfast ,,, Pope Tarts.

I bet if no one ships this off to you you would never see it , so why
bother. I've been paid well by Jews , like the conversations with
them ,and I still know they are cheap. Mostly for body guard work.

I could care less if it was Armenian or Palestinian they are all gonna
have their idiosyncrasies. As long as it isn't escorting them through
their wrong neighborhood.

Is Ozzy against the whole Christian world cause he wrote 'Do you think
the pope should be on the end of a rope' ???

Obviously your incapable of deducing the truth. Get over it, who
cares (dumb statement on my part). Where did the pay off come from?
The Romans !? I think not.

I'd be in prison 10 times over if I did what I should have done for
what has been done to me. All religions don't get this. Maybe the
Buddhist get away in their pure form , but for as anyone knows death
is just oblivion. Not giving any other's' prudence to the contrary. I
already am full aware of my own life.

Your the one that needs to get one.

John Scheldroup wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Cliff wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:13:18 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
wrote:

gummer drooled:

I didnt know you were an anti-semite.


Oh really Gunner now I'm what because I make observations and
listen well ?

http://tinyurl.com/945qk

[
Main Entry: Sem=B7ite
Pronunciation: 'se-"mIt, esp British 'sE-"mIt
Function: noun
Etymology: French s=E9mite, from Semitic Shem, from Late Latin, from
Greek SEm, from Hebrew ShEm
Date: 1848
1 a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern
Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs b : a
descendant of these peoples
2 : a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language
]

The above link shows gummer to be the biggest proponent
of anti-Semitism in any of these groups.
What a bigot.
--

Cliff, I'm trying to figure out if he is/was a member of the KKK ??
Hard to prove none the less. I'm not sure where this person came
to a conclusion that he is/was a Klan member, besides the common
racial slurs which seem to be evident.


http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...87eadbcee52?d=
mode=3Dsource
[
That you are racist is a fact.

Cites?

Oh, we can start with your slurs against Arabs (diaperheads in your
parlance), Mexicans (who you refer to as "wets"), and pretty much
ever
other non-white (whose countries you refer to as "turd-world").
Sound
familiar, klanner?

Diaperheads. Indeed. Its a insult directed towards those wearing the
keffiyeh.
]

Thread remainder picks up he


http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...read/thread/4=
95c08052ea6378f/d51052cb150b5850?hide_quotes=3Dno#msg_fbd135f04722 2af2


John

John,

"I'm trying to figure out if he is/was a member of the KKK ??"

Is this anything like you trying to figure out what happened to
Connie ?

How well did that stunt work out for you ?

I'm very rapidly losing any respect for you. =20

Shalom,

jon

"jon_banquer" wrote in message ups.com...
John Scheldroup wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Cliff wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:13:18 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
wrote:

gummer drooled:

I didnt know you were an anti-semite.


Oh really Gunner now I'm what because I make observations and
listen well ?

http://tinyurl.com/945qk

[
Main Entry: Sem·ite
Pronunciation: 'se-"mIt, esp British 'sE-"mIt
Function: noun
Etymology: French sémite, from Semitic Shem, from Late Latin, from
Greek SEm, from Hebrew ShEm
Date: 1848
1 a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern
Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs b : a
descendant of these peoples
2 : a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language
]

The above link shows gummer to be the biggest proponent
of anti-Semitism in any of these groups.
What a bigot.
--

Cliff, I'm trying to figure out if he is/was a member of the KKK ??
Hard to prove none the less. I'm not sure where this person came
to a conclusion that he is/was a Klan member, besides the common
racial slurs which seem to be evident.


http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...2?dmode=source
[
That you are racist is a fact.

Cites?

Oh, we can start with your slurs against Arabs (diaperheads in your
parlance), Mexicans (who you refer to as "wets"), and pretty much
ever
other non-white (whose countries you refer to as "turd-world").
Sound
familiar, klanner?

Diaperheads. Indeed. Its a insult directed towards those wearing the
keffiyeh.
]

Thread remainder picks up he


http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...35f047222a f2


John

John,

"I'm trying to figure out if he is/was a member of the KKK ??"

Is this anything like you trying to figure out what happened to
Connie ?

How well did that stunt work out for you ?

I'm very rapidly losing any respect for you.

Shalom,

jon


Jon here's an easy question, since Gunner brought up Gay female priests
in the priesthood, what are your views with regarding Gay marriage ?

Is Gay marriage Ok in your mind, yes or no ?

Now can I present the same question to Gunner since he raised my interest
on an earlier post, and if Gunner will read this message, what are your views
on Gay marriage ?

Is Gay marriage Ok yes or no ?


Gunner says that I am anti-Semite. I would imagine such that anti-Semites
have opposing points of view counter to a persons Gay lifestyle ?

I wonder what Gunners real point of view is with respect to Gay marriage.

For the record, I am unopposed with respect to Gay marriage and a
Gay persons lifestyle no matter what that may entail. The fact is that
I believe Gays are some of the nicest most talented people that you
could ever meet in the world.

So I'm just curious when Gunner mentions Gay female priests, what are some
viewpoints regarding Gay marriage in general society, both our viewpoints
could be a measure of Gunners viewpoint and Gay marriage, lets explore this
subject a little further shall we ?

John

John Scheldroup wrote:
"jon_banquer" wrote in message
ups.com...
John Scheldroup wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Cliff wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:13:18 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
wrote:

gummer drooled:

I didnt know you were an anti-semite.


Oh really Gunner now I'm what because I make observations and
listen well ?

http://tinyurl.com/945qk

[
Main Entry: Sem=B7ite
Pronunciation: 'se-"mIt, esp British 'sE-"mIt
Function: noun
Etymology: French s=E9mite, from Semitic Shem, from Late Latin, from
Greek SEm, from Hebrew ShEm
Date: 1848
1 a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient
southwestern
Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs b : a
descendant of these peoples
2 : a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language
]

The above link shows gummer to be the biggest proponent
of anti-Semitism in any of these groups.
What a bigot.
--

Cliff, I'm trying to figure out if he is/was a member of the KKK ??
Hard to prove none the less. I'm not sure where this person came
to a conclusion that he is/was a Klan member, besides the common
racial slurs which seem to be evident.



http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...87eadbcee52?d=
mode=3Dsource
[
That you are racist is a fact.

Cites?

Oh, we can start with your slurs against Arabs (diaperheads in
your
parlance), Mexicans (who you refer to as "wets"), and pretty much
ever
other non-white (whose countries you refer to as "turd-world").
Sound
familiar, klanner?

Diaperheads. Indeed. Its a insult directed towards those wearing
the
keffiyeh.
]

Thread remainder picks up he



http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...read/thread/4=
95c08052ea6378f/d51052cb150b5850?hide_quotes=3Dno#msg_fbd135f04722 2af2


John

John,

"I'm trying to figure out if he is/was a member of the KKK ??"

Is this anything like you trying to figure out what happened to
Connie ?

How well did that stunt work out for you ?

I'm very rapidly losing any respect for you.

Shalom,

jon


Jon here's an easy question, since Gunner brought up Gay female
priests
in the priesthood, what are your views with regarding Gay marriage ?

Is Gay marriage Ok in your mind, yes or no ?

Now can I present the same question to Gunner since he raised my
interest
on an earlier post, and if Gunner will read this message, what are
your views
on Gay marriage ?

Is Gay marriage Ok yes or no ?


Gunner says that I am anti-Semite. I would imagine such that
anti-Semites
have opposing points of view counter to a persons Gay lifestyle ?

I wonder what Gunners real point of view is with respect to Gay
marriage.

For the record, I am unopposed with respect to Gay marriage and a
Gay persons lifestyle no matter what that may entail. The fact is
that
I believe Gays are some of the nicest most talented people that you
could ever meet in the world.

So I'm just curious when Gunner mentions Gay female priests, what are
some
viewpoints regarding Gay marriage in general society, both our
viewpoints
could be a measure of Gunners viewpoint and Gay marriage, lets
explore this
subject a little further shall we ?

John





John,


"Jon here's an easy question, since Gunner brought up Gay
female priests in the priesthood, what are your views with
regarding Gay marriage ?"

I don't have a view as it's not a subject I spend anytime
thinking about. I do spend a lot of time thinking about how
CAD/CAM systems should work and why they often don't work.

"Gunner says that I am anti-Semite. I would imagine such
that anti-Semites have opposing points of view counter to
a persons Gay lifestyle ?"

I don't think your an anti-Semite. I do think you post some
really stupid **** at times... the Connie stuff was totally
bogus. Did "The Virus" influence your post on Connie, John ?
Were you drunk ? Why in the world would you pull a stunt
like that ?

"For the record, I am unopposed with respect to Gay
marriage and a Gay persons lifestyle no matter what that
may entail. The fact is that I believe Gays are some of
the nicest most talented people that you could ever meet
in the world."

I don't have any problem with that. I probably don't have
any problem with an opposing view on Gay marriage either. I
do have a problem when someone tells me SolidWorks,
SolidEdge, Inventor, etc. are good tools... How can they be
if they don't play well with imported geometry and treat it
like a second class citizen or an illegal alien that doesn't
belong.

"So I'm just curious when Gunner mentions Gay female
priests, what are some viewpoints regarding Gay marriage
in general society, both our viewpoints could be a measure
of Gunners viewpoint and Gay marriage, lets explore this
subject a little further shall we ?"

In general my perception that most machinists don't like
people that are Gay. Perhaps you should also get Bing to
post his thoughts as he has spent a lot of time on this
issue. As I said, I don't spend anytime thinking about it as
I just don't have the interest.

Maybe when CAD/CAM vendors start getting the message that
parametrics are cool but there has to be a way to deal with
imported geometry other than treating it like an illegal
alien and instead enable direct editing of any and all
imported geometry then I will find the time to care about
what I know is an important issue to both you in Gunner.

In the mean time why not resist any and all personal attacks
and refuse to drop to the level of "The Virus".

You should have learned much more from my experience of
dropping to that level and how much time I wasted until
Bottlebob finally woke me up.

I won't hold my breath waiting for an apology on your Connie
post... I'll just have to get over it. Obviously I'm not
doing a good enough job on getting over it or I would not
have brought it up.

Have a good weekend and look for my post:

CAD/CAM Wars.... The Customer Wins.


jon

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:45:10 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
wrote:

So I'm just curious when Gunner mentions Gay female priests, what are some
viewpoints regarding Gay marriage in general society, both our viewpoints
could be a measure of Gunners viewpoint and Gay marriage, lets explore this
subject a little further shall we ?

John

I could care one way or another about gay marraige. Its not my
business if they wish to marry each other, or a rock, or a trained
donkey. Gays dont bother me in the least, as long as they can take No
for an answer.

I had a lesbian couple living in my home as room mates for a year.
Shrug

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

John Scheldroup wrote in article
...



For the record, I am unopposed with respect to Gay marriage and a
Gay persons lifestyle no matter what that may entail. The fact is that
I believe Gays are some of the nicest most talented people that you
could ever meet in the world.



I think it is truly ironic that, in your attempt to come across as
un-biased and tolerant, you make such a stereotypical statement.

I've observed a fair number of rude, coarse, untalented homosexuals....

......homosexuals, themselves, are constantly pointing out - when it is to
their advantage, of course - that they represent a true cross-section of
humanity.........so, by their own logic, they would not necessarily be any
nicer, artistic, or more talented than any other segment of the world's
population.

You are certainly entitled to your own beliefs.....

.....there are actually people who believe that terrorists are cute and
loveable.

"jon_banquer" wrote in message ups.com...
John Scheldroup wrote:
"jon_banquer" wrote in message
ups.com...
John Scheldroup wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...



Higher
| John says:
| "For the record, I am unopposed with respect to Gay
| marriage and a Gay persons lifestyle no matter what that
| may entail."
|
| Jon says:
Tolerance "I don't have any problem with that. I probably don't have
| any problem with an opposing view on Gay marriage either. "
|
| Gunner says:
| "I could care one way or another about gay marraige. Its not my
| business if they wish to marry each other,.."
| "Gays dont bother me in the least,.."
Lower


John

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:37:33 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
wrote:


"jon_banquer" wrote in message ups.com...
John Scheldroup wrote:
"jon_banquer" wrote in message
oups.com...
John Scheldroup wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...



Higher
| John says:
| "For the record, I am unopposed with respect to Gay
| marriage and a Gay persons lifestyle no matter what that
| may entail."
|
| Jon says:
Tolerance "I don't have any problem with that. I probably don't have
| any problem with an opposing view on Gay marriage either. "
|
| Gunner says:
| "I could care one way or another about gay marraige. Its not my
| business if they wish to marry each other,.."
| "Gays dont bother me in the least,.."
Lower


John



Care to interpret this for us mouthbreathers?

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

"*" wrote

For the record, I am unopposed with respect to Gay marriage and a
Gay persons lifestyle no matter what that may entail. The fact is that
I believe Gays are some of the nicest most talented people that you
could ever meet in the world.


AND, they have such lovely children .....................

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:12:54 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:


"*" wrote

For the record, I am unopposed with respect to Gay marriage and a
Gay persons lifestyle no matter what that may entail. The fact is that
I believe Gays are some of the nicest most talented people that you
could ever meet in the world.


AND, they have such lovely children .....................


Nuns?
--
Cliff

Antisemitism is a term that while it may be applied to all descendents
of Shem, Nohas son, it is intended in the English language to apply to
Jews. The term was used in the beginning to describe Jews in an
environment where there were few other semitic persons present and no
serious discrimination against the rich few present in English speaking
society. The fallback to semitic=arab linguistic game is a typical
leftist attempt to snuggle up to the poor opressed arab billionaire
terrorists, because you respect only those that hate you. A textbook
case of beaten wife syndrome.
As far as the pope goes as long as he leaves us Jews alone and doesn't
use his forum to promote evil I really dont care who he is.

"Settler" wrote in message ups.com...
Antisemitism is a term that while it may be applied to all descendents
of Shem, Nohas son, it is intended in the English language to apply to
Jews. The term was used in the beginning to describe Jews in an
environment where there were few other semitic persons present and no
serious discrimination against the rich few present in English speaking
society. The fallback to semitic=arab linguistic game is a typical
leftist attempt to snuggle up to the poor opressed arab billionaire
terrorists, because you respect only those that hate you. A textbook
case of beaten wife syndrome.
As far as the pope goes as long as he leaves us Jews alone and doesn't
use his forum to promote evil I really dont care who he is.


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...m/zionism.html

On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:19:53 GMT, Strabo
wrote:

In OT Gay Marriage was: OT Pope on Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:37:33
-0500, by John Scheldroup, we read:


"jon_banquer" wrote in message ups.com...
John Scheldroup wrote:
"jon_banquer" wrote in message
roups.com...
John Scheldroup wrote:
wrote in message
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Higher
| John says:
| "For the record, I am unopposed with respect to Gay
| marriage and a Gay persons lifestyle no matter what that
| may entail."
|
| Jon says:
Tolerance "I don't have any problem with that. I probably don't have
| any problem with an opposing view on Gay marriage either. "
|
| Gunner says:
| "I could care one way or another about gay marraige. Its not my
| business if they wish to marry each other,.."
| "Gays dont bother me in the least,.."
Lower


John

"Gay marriage" makes as much sense as invading Iraq to
end terrorism.

"Gay marriage" makes as much sense as Americans passing laws
against American bred crime.

"Gay marriage" makes as much sense as complaining about
taxes while demanding more government services.

In other words, homosexual marriage comes close to being the
stupidest idea in the history of mankind.

So naturally there is so much "tolerance."

Hey, if folks want to get married what business is it of anyone
else's?
They might even be of mixed "race" or religion or something
...... no skin off my nose .... why is it off yours?
--
Cliff

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:26:47 GMT, BottleBob
wrote:

Gunner wrote:

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 00:29:48 GMT, BottleBob
wrote:


Dan:

I should proof read my posts better. I didn't mean that just BEING a
homosexual was a criminal offense, I meant to say that homosexuals (and
heterosexuals as well it seems), engaging in acts such as sodomy and
oral sex are criminal offenses in many states.


Most if not all sodomy laws were overturned a number of years ago.

Gunner:

The web site I listed showed a number of states that decriminalized
sodomy and the year they did so. 22 states still seem to have
anti-sodomy laws on the their books. "On 6-26-03 the U.S. Supreme Court
ruled that sodomy laws are
unconstitutional." So if someone were charged with a sodomy offense and
managed to take it to the supreme court the conviction would probably be
thrown out.

How many years and how many millions for lawyers would that
take?
Recall that they ruled the torture & stuff in Cuba (and other
places) illegal ...... and it's still going on.

Gonzales, the new head of US law enforcement, claimed that
it was "health care", right?
--
Cliff

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:37:49 GMT, Strabo
wrote:

Hey, if folks want to get married what business is it of anyone
else's?
They might even be of mixed "race" or religion or something
...... no skin off my nose .... why is it off yours?

"Hey, if folks [fill in the subject] what business is it of
anyone else's?"

Think about it.

Some people should leave their noses alone, at least in public.

Think about it G.
--
Cliff

On 28 Apr 2005 19:02:10 -0700, wrote:

Cliff wrote:

Hey, if folks want to get married what business is it of anyone
else's?
They might even be of mixed "race" or religion or something
...... no skin off my nose .... why is it off yours?

Cliff,

This is the problem.
http://wbz1030.com/massnews/MA--Pare...rces_news_html

Trespassing is a serious danger.
They might even be armed.

I don't want this nonsense brainwashed into my kid's heads.

http://tinyurl.com/9gku5

Partial list of books to be banned by wingers & fundies:
The Color Purple
EVERYTHING by Tennessee Williams
EVERYTHING by Truman Capote
EVERYTHING by Gore Vidal
Much of Shakespeare's works

Here's a nice little list:
http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/bannedboo...frequently.htm
[
Scary Stories (Series) by Alvin Schwartz
Daddy’s Roommate by Michael Willhoite
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
Harry Potter (Series) by J.K. Rowling
Forever by Judy Blume
Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
Alice (Series) by Phyllis Reynolds Naylor
Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman
My Brother Sam is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher
Collier
The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
The Giver by Lois Lowry
It’s Perfectly Normal by Robie Harris
Goosebumps (Series) by R.L. Stine
A Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Newton Peck
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
Sex by Madonna
Earth’s Children (Series) by Jean M. Auel
The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson
A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle
Go Ask Alice by Anonymous
Fallen Angels by Walter Dean Myers
In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak
The Stupids (Series) by Harry Allard
The Witches by Roald Dahl
The New Joy of Gay Sex by Charles Silverstein
Anastasia Krupnik (Series) by Lois Lowry
The Goats by Brock Cole
Kaffir Boy by Mark Mathabane
Blubber by Judy Blume
Killing Mr. Griffin by Lois Duncan
Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam
We All Fall Down by Robert Cormier
Final Exit by Derek Humphry
The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood
Julie of the Wolves by Jean Craighead George
The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison
What’s Happening to my Body? Book for Girls: A Growing-Up Guide for
Parents & Daughters by Lynda Madaras
To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee
Beloved by Toni Morrison
The Outsiders by S.E. Hinton
The Pigman by Paul Zindel
Bumps in the Night by Harry Allard
Deenie by Judy Blume
Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes
Annie on my Mind by Nancy Garden
The Boy Who Lost His Face by Louis Sachar
Cross Your Fingers, Spit in Your Hat by Alvin Schwartz
A Light in the Attic by Shel Silverstein
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Sleeping Beauty Trilogy by A.N. Roquelaure (Anne Rice)
Asking About Sex and Growing Up by Joanna Cole
Cujo by Stephen King
James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
The Anarchist Cookbook by William Powell
Boys and Sex by Wardell Pomeroy
Ordinary People by Judith Guest
American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis
What’s Happening to my Body? Book for Boys: A Growing-Up Guide for
Parents & Sons by Lynda Madaras
Are You There, God? It’s Me, Margaret by Judy Blume
Crazy Lady by Jane Conly
Athletic Shorts by Chris Crutcher
Fade by Robert Cormier
Guess What? by Mem Fox
The House of Spirits by Isabel Allende
The Face on the Milk Carton by Caroline Cooney
Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut
Lord of the Flies by William Golding
Native Son by Richard Wright
Women on Top: How Real Life Has Changed Women’s Fantasies by Nancy
Friday
Curses, Hexes and Spells by Daniel Cohen
Jack by A.M. Homes
Bless Me, Ultima by Rudolfo A. Anaya
Where Did I Come From? by Peter Mayle
Carrie by Stephen King
Tiger Eyes by Judy Blume
On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer
Arizona Kid by Ron Koertge
Family Secrets by Norma Klein
Mommy Laid An Egg by Babette Cole
The Dead Zone by Stephen King
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
Song of Solomon by Toni Morrison
Always Running by Luis Rodriguez
Private Parts by Howard Stern
Where’s Waldo? by Martin Hanford
Summer of My German Soldier by Bette Greene
Little Black Sambo by Helen Bannerman
Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett
Running Loose by Chris Crutcher
Sex Education by Jenny Davis
The Drowning of Stephen Jones by Bette Greene
Girls and Sex by Wardell Pomeroy
How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell
View from the Cherry Tree by Willo Davis Roberts
The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Keatley Snyder
The Terrorist by Caroline Cooney
Jump Ship to Freedom by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier
]

If the school can view its thoughts to kids, my kids will express
their views to others in school.

Ah, than they might discuss, argue & think for themselves.

Bad. Very bad.

Marriage is and will be only between a
man and a women. Its quite simple. It was the designer's intent.

What "designer"?
What of rabbits?

Birds & bees?

Some
people can't quite understand this. The family (man, women and some
kids)is the foundation of this country.

??

Its a simple fact that kids
need a MOM and a DAD.

Why?
How many do not? What are you going to do to them?

When this family unit is corrupted it becomes
very unstable creating all types of social problems.

Wingers & fundies & "conservatives" seem to get divorced
a lot more than "liberals".

Look at a typical
divorce and perhaps how a single mom raises 1 or several kids. It
become a social problem for all of us.

Gee, perhaps she should get a girlfriend to help with the kids?

We have enough problems on
our hands. Its all about the kids and creating a stable environment
where they are raised properly.

And keeping them barefoot & ignorant?

This same sex bonding is all about self-preservation and me, me,
me.

No football & stuff, eh?
No more Army, Marines, ...... sniff .....

Sort of like throwing that cigarette butt out the window or
changing lanes without your signal light on.

Which do you do & why?

I don't want that
dirty butt in MY car,

IF it's unfiltered probably adds a bit of fertilizer IF it's
out & there's nothing to catch fire ..... don't toss them
in dry weather ....

I'm too lazy to think about the signal
light. Who cares about who's behind me. These actions all impact
US one way or another.

Try telling some wingers.

So won't these same sex issues. It goes
against nature and balance.

You need better arguments.
It also can keep the population from rising so fast VBG.

Based on your own arguments then it's a good thing ......
--
Cliff