http://www.usborderpatrol.com/borderframe090.htm


No comment needed.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

In article ,
Gunner wrote:

http://www.usborderpatrol.com/borderframe090.htm


No comment needed.

Nope, none at all...

Beyond "Typical reactionary hype and hatred passing itself off as
patriotism." Not a whole lot different in my eyes (or in the wording of
its rhetoric) than a pack of vigilantes whipping themselves into a
frenzy at a KKK rally - The only difference being that instead of
chanting "Let's go hang us some ******s, boys!", this bunch is chanting
"Let's go hang us some wetbacks, boys!"

I'm *ALL FOR* sealing the borders - As in *AIRTIGHT* - *NOBODY* from
*ANYWHERE* gets in unless he/she/it can prove themselves to be American
citizens, with illegal entrants not being given a ride and a
deportation, but a double-tap to the back of the skull and the cheapest
burial possible.

Dont get me wrong on that score - We DO have an immigration problem -
One that needs drastic, violent, and fatal steps taken to be cured.

But the goons who put this website together aren't talking about
immigration control. They're talking fear and hate that's no different,
in any way other than being more visible thanks to the marvels of modern
technology, from the KKK in the days after the civil war.

--
Don Bruder - - New Email policy in effect as of Feb. 21, 2004.
Short form: I'm trashing EVERY E-mail that doesn't contain a password in the
subject unless it comes from a "whitelisted" (pre-approved by me) address.
See http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd/main/contact.html for full details.

Why can't we just throw the borders open with the stipulation that everyone
gets registered, weed-out the most blatant undesirables, and make sure that
SS tax is collected. Problem solved! SS is solvent and we get good cheap
labor, they get good jobs. Fast-track new citizens, educate and train.
These people have more ambition and make a better contribution than many
natural citizens.

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
http://www.usborderpatrol.com/borderframe090.htm


No comment needed.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:54:25 GMT, Don Bruder wrote:

In article ,
Gunner wrote:

http://www.usborderpatrol.com/borderframe090.htm


No comment needed.

Nope, none at all...

Beyond "Typical reactionary hype and hatred passing itself off as
patriotism." Not a whole lot different in my eyes (or in the wording of
its rhetoric) than a pack of vigilantes whipping themselves into a
frenzy at a KKK rally - The only difference being that instead of
chanting "Let's go hang us some ******s, boys!", this bunch is chanting
"Let's go hang us some wetbacks, boys!"

Where the hell did you get all that from? Blink blink....

I'm *ALL FOR* sealing the borders - As in *AIRTIGHT* - *NOBODY* from
*ANYWHERE* gets in unless he/she/it can prove themselves to be American
citizens, with illegal entrants not being given a ride and a
deportation, but a double-tap to the back of the skull and the cheapest
burial possible.

Dont get me wrong on that score - We DO have an immigration problem -
One that needs drastic, violent, and fatal steps taken to be cured.

But the goons who put this website together aren't talking about
immigration control. They're talking fear and hate that's no different,
in any way other than being more visible thanks to the marvels of modern
technology, from the KKK in the days after the civil war.

The lads that put that site together were mostly Border Patrol agents
themselves, as I understand it via my sources.

Blink blink....where the hell did you drag all that hate from? Its
frank, its honest, realistic and its brutal, but I didnt find anything
racist in it. It expresses the utter frustration of good men tasked
with doing a job they are underfunded and forbidden to do.

Don..are you sure you live in a border area? If you dont..then I
suggest you keep your knee jerk reactions to yourself, because you
look really really stupid. Black hole stupid. So stupid nothing
escapes stupid.

Tell you what Don..why not go down to Aridzona and volunteer for the
Minute Man Project for a week or two. You can perhaps rescue a poor
illegal from starvation, or dying from thirst, and for the first time
in your life, you can experince a reality check..and all that good
fresh air will give you a good reason to get your head out of you ass.

Oh...before you start spewing...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=43859


Why am I not surprised you of all people would nut roll over this? Im
waiting for Abrasha to chime in next.....

Gunner



Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:54:47 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:

Why can't we just throw the borders open with the stipulation that everyone
gets registered, weed-out the most blatant undesirables, and make sure that
SS tax is collected. Problem solved! SS is solvent and we get good cheap
labor, they get good jobs. Fast-track new citizens, educate and train.
These people have more ambition and make a better contribution than many
natural citizens.

Any suggestions on how to weed out the undesirables, the criminals,
the drug smugglers, the murderers and rapists, those carrying TB and
other third world diseases (note the dramatic increase in TB in the
border states) and so forth?

Btw...most migrants DO pay SS. Even if they have a forged SS card.
They just cant collect. Well..until Presidente Fox's plan to allow
migrants to collect SS when they go back to Mexico, is carried out.

Then all that money is lost and not put back into the US economy.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=30090

Gunner


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
http://www.usborderpatrol.com/borderframe090.htm


No comment needed.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"


Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:26:10 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Your Border Patrol buddies seem to have forgotten one HUGE undefended
border - that between our terrorist-cell-harbouring country (Canada)
and the largest and most vulnerable and resource-richest state in the
Union - Alaska.
You're just ripe for the plucking by Muslim, anti-American,pro-Arab,
white-hating Inuit and Native Americans!

:-) ------please note.

Mike in BC

In article ,
Gunner wrote:


Don..are you sure you live in a border area?

Not since leaving Arizona, but you wouldn't know that from looking at
the population of "no comprende, senor" bodies around here...

Tell you what Don..why not go down to Aridzona

Spent a little over a year in Arid(not particularly true anymore, what
with all the development)zona a while back. Miserable damn place that
I'll not soon re-visit if left any option for avoiding it. I like it
warm, sure, but temps that didn't drop below 115F, day or night, for
nearly three weeks straight, was a little much even for me to cope with.

and volunteer for the
Minute Man Project for a week or two. You can perhaps rescue a poor
illegal from starvation, or dying from thirst,

Actually, there'd be no "rescue" involved. I'd cheerfully stand
by/provide escort as he/she/they dragged themselves back across the
border where they belonged, but would render absolutely no aid of any
kind whatsoever beyond "The border is that way". It's my opinoin that
illegals, of whatever source, deserve whatever happens to them,
including death by starvation and/or dehydration if that's what comes to
pass. They are criminals, and as such, deserve no assistance from anyone.

--
Don Bruder - - New Email policy in effect as of Feb. 21, 2004.
Short form: I'm trashing EVERY E-mail that doesn't contain a password in the
subject unless it comes from a "whitelisted" (pre-approved by me) address.
See http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd/main/contact.html for full details.

"Gunner" wrote in message
Any suggestions on how to weed out the undesirables, the criminals,
the drug smugglers, the murderers and rapists, those carrying TB and
other third world diseases (note the dramatic increase in TB in the
border states) and so forth?

Just seal the borders between California and the rest of the US, Keep the
riff-raff in California, nobody will notice.

"Tom Gardner" writes:

"Gunner" wrote in message
Any suggestions on how to weed out the undesirables, the criminals,
the drug smugglers, the murderers and rapists, those carrying TB and
other third world diseases (note the dramatic increase in TB in the
border states) and so forth?

Just seal the borders between California and the rest of the US, Keep the
riff-raff in California, nobody will notice.

As long as they do it for Texas also.

Gregm

Tom Gardner, wondering how all this works, wrote:

Why can't we rest snipped as useless

No.

Tom Gardner, wondering how all this works, wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
Any suggestions on how to weed out the undesirables, the criminals,
the drug smugglers, the murderers and rapists, those carrying TB and
other third world diseases (note the dramatic increase in TB in the
border states) and so forth?

Just seal the borders between California and the rest of the US, Keep the
riff-raff in California, nobody will notice.

Now *that* is a good idea. While we're at it, take all the other illegals from
around the country and shove 'em in there too.

Gunner wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:54:47 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:

Why can't we just throw the borders open with the stipulation that
everyone
gets registered, weed-out the most blatant undesirables, and make
sure that
SS tax is collected. Problem solved! SS is solvent and we get good
cheap
labor, they get good jobs. Fast-track new citizens, educate and
train.
These people have more ambition and make a better contribution than
many
natural citizens.

Any suggestions on how to weed out the undesirables, the criminals,
the drug smugglers, the murderers and rapists, those carrying TB and
other third world diseases (note the dramatic increase in TB in the
border states) and so forth?

Btw...most migrants DO pay SS. Even if they have a forged SS card.
They just cant collect. Well..until Presidente Fox's plan to allow
migrants to collect SS when they go back to Mexico, is carried out.

Then all that money is lost and not put back into the US economy.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=30090

"Don't worry, even if you are in the United States illegally it is
still possible to "live the good life". Yes, you can receive welfare
benefits, thanks to something called PRUCOL (Permanently Residing Under
Color of Law).

PRUCOL

PRUCOL was created not by the voter and legislation, but by the courts.
When an alien is designated as PRUCOL, it means that they are illegal
but can still stay. Because the illegal alien can stay they have the
same rights as if they were legal. The real difference is that a PRUCOL
cannot apply for U.S. citizenship.

The good news is that a PRUCOL can't sponsor any family members.

WHO IS GIVEN PRUCOL STATUS?

Plainly put, illegal aliens are PRUCOLs if they are illegals and the
INS allows them to stay in the U.S..

HOW IS PRUCOL DETERMINED?

If somehow you have been able to escape capture as an illegal alien and
have been able to give birth to a US citizen, or be so debilitated that
you can collect SSI or for other health reasons, or had somehow
illegally obtained a job and got laid off or fired and have benefits
coming to you or you are in the process of filing complaints to obtain
such benefits:

(1) Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)

(2) Supplemental Security Income (SSI)

(3) Medicaid

(4) Unemployment Insurance

Each PRUCOL criterion is handled by a different federal and / or state
agency.

So if you are an alien who has been here for more than twenty years, or
have been granted a stay of deportation by the courts, or are not being
deported because you have U.S. citizen children, or you are just not
going to be deported ( a Salvadoran or a Cuban for example) you can go
on with this sometimes for the rest of your natural life. "
http://www.usborderpatrol.com/borderframe100.htm

end

:/

Tom Gardner nospam wrote:
"Gunner" wrote in message
Any suggestions on how to weed out the undesirables, the criminals,
the drug smugglers, the murderers and rapists, those carrying TB
and
other third world diseases (note the dramatic increase in TB in the
border states) and so forth?

Just seal the borders between California and the rest of the US, Keep
the
riff-raff in California, nobody will notice.

Hi Tom,

Either grow up and conduct a mature conversation or go back to your
****ing sand box and play with yourself.

:/

Halcitron

Tom Gardner nospam wrote:
Why can't we just throw the borders open with the stipulation that
everyone
gets registered, weed-out the most blatant undesirables, and make
sure that
SS tax is collected. Problem solved! SS is solvent and we get good
cheap
labor, they get good jobs. Fast-track new citizens, educate and
train.
These people have more ambition and make a better contribution than
many
natural citizens.


How many illegals do you have on your payroll, Tom?

:/

Gunner wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:54:47 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:

Why can't we just throw the borders open with the stipulation that
everyone
gets registered, weed-out the most blatant undesirables, and make
sure that
SS tax is collected. Problem solved! SS is solvent and we get good
cheap
labor, they get good jobs. Fast-track new citizens, educate and
train.
These people have more ambition and make a better contribution than
many
natural citizens.

Any suggestions on how to weed out the undesirables, the criminals,
the drug smugglers, the murderers and rapists, those carrying TB and
other third world diseases (note the dramatic increase in TB in the
border states) and so forth?


"BOUNTY $5
per head
Prefered Alive"

should do it.

:/

Halcitron wrote:

"Don't worry, even if you are in the United States illegally it is
still possible to "live the good life". Yes, you can receive welfare
benefits, thanks to something called PRUCOL (Permanently Residing Under
Color of Law).


Wonder how many illegals are living he

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1385801/posts

Note the article is from the Christian Science Monitor.


--
Regards,
Steve Saling
aka The Garlic Dude ©
Gilroy, CA
The Garlic Capital of The World
http://www.pulsareng.com/

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:26:10 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Your Border Patrol buddies seem to have forgotten one HUGE undefended
border - that between our terrorist-cell-harbouring country (Canada)
and the largest and most vulnerable and resource-richest state in the
Union - Alaska.
You're just ripe for the plucking by Muslim, anti-American,pro-Arab,
white-hating Inuit and Native Americans!

:-) ------please note.

Mike in BC

It would have been nice if that page on the 'enemy to the north' had
even one fact right in the entire section! For example:

Quote "If Montreal resident Ahmed Ressam, the Algerian-born Al-Qaida
operative who was caught by vigilant U.S. border inspectors, had simply
walked across the Canadian border through the woods near Detroit, his
bombs would have brought untold death and destruction to his planned
target, LAX, and possibly killed more people than were killed on 9/11."
/Quote

It is physically impossible to walk from Canada to Detroit. There are
only three crossing points, two road links (bridge and tunnel) and one
rail link (tunnel). The road links are heavily manned on both sides,
with no pedestrians allowed and the rail link is covered by CCTV cameras
and the last time anyone attempted to 'walk' through the tunnel they
were either caught within a few yards of entering or ended up as red
smears on the walls.

There are no 'woods' near Detroit (except in parks) and the urban sprawl
extends many tens of miles beyond the city limits.

In fact there is nowhere in the entire state of Michigan where you can
simply 'walk' across the border from Canada unchallenged. It is
completely separated from Canada by water, either by large lakes or
large rivers (large enough for ocean going freighters to travel freely
and pass each other).

Makes you wonder just how many other 'facts' on that site will hold
water ;-).


--
Larry Green

Garlicdude wrote:
Halcitron wrote:

"Don't worry, even if you are in the United States illegally it is
still possible to "live the good life". Yes, you can receive
welfare
benefits, thanks to something called PRUCOL (Permanently Residing
Under
Color of Law).


Wonder how many illegals are living he

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1385801/posts

Note the article is from the Christian Science Monitor.


Shoot, I could have spent $8million on land and structures enough to
house and feed 2,000 men, and 2,000 women and children. and $9million
to run it for a few years.

They would have:
Beds, meals and an address.
Mail service, phones, barbers, beauty salon
Child care, Preschool,
Job Centers, JOBS,
and a store to shop in.

It might not be shining, I might not even be noticed, from the street.

What were they thinking?

In article ,
Larry Green wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:26:10 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Your Border Patrol buddies seem to have forgotten one HUGE undefended
border - that between our terrorist-cell-harbouring country (Canada)
and the largest and most vulnerable and resource-richest state in the
Union - Alaska.
You're just ripe for the plucking by Muslim, anti-American,pro-Arab,
white-hating Inuit and Native Americans!

:-) ------please note.

Mike in BC

It would have been nice if that page on the 'enemy to the north' had
even one fact right in the entire section! For example:

Quote "If Montreal resident Ahmed Ressam, the Algerian-born Al-Qaida
operative who was caught by vigilant U.S. border inspectors, had simply
walked across the Canadian border through the woods near Detroit, his
bombs would have brought untold death and destruction to his planned
target, LAX, and possibly killed more people than were killed on 9/11."
/Quote

It is physically impossible to walk from Canada to Detroit. There are
only three crossing points, two road links (bridge and tunnel) and one
rail link (tunnel). The road links are heavily manned on both sides,
with no pedestrians allowed and the rail link is covered by CCTV cameras
and the last time anyone attempted to 'walk' through the tunnel they
were either caught within a few yards of entering or ended up as red
smears on the walls.

There are no 'woods' near Detroit (except in parks) and the urban sprawl
extends many tens of miles beyond the city limits.

"Many tens of miles"??? Surely you jest! Try more like several hundred
miles. When I bailed out of Michigan back in the early 90's, essentially
the entire southeast quadrant of the lower penninsula, from roughly port
Huron south, and west almost to Lansing, was already well on the way to
being considered "a suburb of Detroit". I can't imagine that the trend
has reversed in the time I've been gone.

In fact there is nowhere in the entire state of Michigan where you can
simply 'walk' across the border from Canada unchallenged. It is
completely separated from Canada by water, either by large lakes or
large rivers (large enough for ocean going freighters to travel freely
and pass each other).

Makes you wonder just how many other 'facts' on that site will hold
water ;-).

Nicely done, Larry as a Michigan native (Born and raised in
Cheboygan, spent time living all over "the tip of the mitt" and sections
of the southern/eastern U.P., Grand and Little Traverse bay areas,
Gaylord, Grayling, Alpena, Houghton Lake, Big Rapids and Grand Rapids,
Saginaw/Bay City/Midland - Basically everywhere but the far southeast
quarter and extreme western edges of the lower penninsula) I too had
some... Let's say "difficulty"... swallowing the idea that anyone could
cross into Michigan from Canada, whether at Detroit, or anywhere else,
carrying a bomb or similar item without using a vehicle of some sort and
being subject to the attention of customs or other officials.

Someone in a boat could, with relative ease, make the trip pretty much
undetected if all they were interested in was getting themselves and a
small amount of personal effects across the border without the scrutiny
of Mr. Customs agent, but someone wanting to haul in a bomb that could
"possibly kill more people than were killed on 9/11" would be pretty
much out of luck, since a boat of sufficient size to such a device or
its disassembled components would be remarkable in every port in
Michigan, and would draw the attention of AT LEAST the harbormaster, if
not many more people, many of whom would be doing the "Who the hell is
that and what are they doing HERE?" thing. Under such conditions,
whoever was aboard would have little, if any, chance of avoiding
official scrutiny.

On the other hand, it would be child's play to cross the border
undetected (in either direction) in Minnesota, for instance, carrying
pretty much whatever one felt like carrying. Four-wheel-drive vehicles
are just as common there as in Michigan, and would go unnoticed by
pretty much anyone - Boondocking HAS to be just as big a pastime in
Minnesota as it is in Michigan, so I can't imagine anyone doing so much
as raising an eyebrow at some "appropriately dressed" redneck-mobile
rumbling out of the woods and onto a lonely chunk of highway out in the
middle of nowhere. Assuming there was even anyone present to observe
such a thing happening, that is.

And never mind all the rest of "the upper tier" of states who share a
border with Canada...

--
Don Bruder - - New Email policy in effect as of Feb. 21, 2004.
Short form: I'm trashing EVERY E-mail that doesn't contain a password in the
subject unless it comes from a "whitelisted" (pre-approved by me) address.
See http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd/main/contact.html for full details.

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:21:30 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Oh...before you start spewing...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=43859

"blasts Bush"

Happy now, gummer?
--
Cliff

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:26:10 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Any suggestions on how to weed out the undesirables, the criminals,
the drug smugglers, the murderers and rapists

Q): If you are a winger raise your right hand.

A): Return all those that raised their left hands.
--
Cliff

On 20 Apr 2005 14:12:16 -0700, "Halcitron" wrote:


Gunner wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:54:47 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:

Why can't we just throw the borders open with the stipulation that
everyone
gets registered, weed-out the most blatant undesirables, and make
sure that
SS tax is collected. Problem solved! SS is solvent and we get good
cheap
labor, they get good jobs. Fast-track new citizens, educate and
train.
These people have more ambition and make a better contribution than
many
natural citizens.

Any suggestions on how to weed out the undesirables, the criminals,
the drug smugglers, the murderers and rapists, those carrying TB and
other third world diseases (note the dramatic increase in TB in the
border states) and so forth?


"BOUNTY $5

As I understand it it used to be something like $50 about 35 years
ago. A friend of mine was turned in by her husband's aunt.
Sue

per head
Prefered Alive"

should do it.

:/

Halcitron wrote:


Wonder how many illegals are living he

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1385801/posts

Note the article is from the Christian Science Monitor.


Shoot, I could have spent $8million on land and structures enough to
house and feed 2,000 men, and 2,000 women and children. and $9million
to run it for a few years.

They would have:
Beds, meals and an address.
Mail service, phones, barbers, beauty salon
Child care, Preschool,
Job Centers, JOBS,
and a store to shop in.

It might not be shining, I might not even be noticed, from the street.

What were they thinking?



That's exactly what some of the homeless advocates said. Your tax
dollars hard at work?
--
Regards,
Steve Saling
aka The Garlic Dude ©
Gilroy, CA
The Garlic Capital of The World
http://www.pulsareng.com/

Beaner eater wrote:

Tom Gardner, wondering how all this works, wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message

Any suggestions on how to weed out the undesirables, the criminals,
the drug smugglers, the murderers and rapists, those carrying TB and
other third world diseases (note the dramatic increase in TB in the
border states) and so forth?

Just seal the borders between California and the rest of the US, Keep the
riff-raff in California, nobody will notice.


Now *that* is a good idea. While we're at it, take all the other illegals from
around the country and shove 'em in there too.

Ok so ALL non Native Americans get shipped off to Texas? Cool...

Ike

BITE ME!


"Halcitron" wrote in message
oups.com...

Tom Gardner nospam wrote:
"Gunner" wrote in message
Any suggestions on how to weed out the undesirables, the criminals,
the drug smugglers, the murderers and rapists, those carrying TB
and
other third world diseases (note the dramatic increase in TB in the
border states) and so forth?

Just seal the borders between California and the rest of the US, Keep
the
riff-raff in California, nobody will notice.

Hi Tom,

Either grow up and conduct a mature conversation or go back to your
****ing sand box and play with yourself.

:/

Halcitron

"Halcitron" wrote in message
oups.com...

Tom Gardner nospam wrote:
Why can't we just throw the borders open with the stipulation that
everyone
gets registered, weed-out the most blatant undesirables, and make
sure that
SS tax is collected. Problem solved! SS is solvent and we get good
cheap
labor, they get good jobs. Fast-track new citizens, educate and
train.
These people have more ambition and make a better contribution than
many
natural citizens.


How many illegals do you have on your payroll, Tom?

:/


Illegal in what respect? Parole violations? Unpaid parking tickets? Drug
users? Tax cheats? In one way or another, I suppose ALL of my 25 are
illegal. I wish I had some illegal aliens, they have better work ethics
than most "Americans" ...and can read a tape measure.

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:18:04 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:

BITE ME!


"Halcitron" wrote in message
roups.com...

Tom Gardner nospam wrote:
"Gunner" wrote in message
Any suggestions on how to weed out the undesirables, the criminals,
the drug smugglers, the murderers and rapists, those carrying TB
and
other third world diseases (note the dramatic increase in TB in the
border states) and so forth?

Just seal the borders between California and the rest of the US, Keep
the
riff-raff in California, nobody will notice.

Hi Tom,

Either grow up and conduct a mature conversation or go back to your
****ing sand box and play with yourself.

:/

Halcitron


Boys boys....

Hal, Tom is one of the good guys. He has a good sense of humor too.
Plus he is another member of the Church of John Moses Browning.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:26:55 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"Halcitron" wrote in message
roups.com...

Tom Gardner nospam wrote:
Why can't we just throw the borders open with the stipulation that
everyone
gets registered, weed-out the most blatant undesirables, and make
sure that
SS tax is collected. Problem solved! SS is solvent and we get good
cheap
labor, they get good jobs. Fast-track new citizens, educate and
train.
These people have more ambition and make a better contribution than
many
natural citizens.


How many illegals do you have on your payroll, Tom?

:/


Illegal in what respect? Parole violations? Unpaid parking tickets? Drug
users? Tax cheats? In one way or another, I suppose ALL of my 25 are
illegal. I wish I had some illegal aliens, they have better work ethics
than most "Americans" ...and can read a tape measure.

LOL...still having the tape measure problem?

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

Cliff, wondering how all this works, wrote:

I want to milk snakes for a living. Can someone tell me how to jerk them off?

In article , Gunner says...

Hal, Tom is one of the good guys. He has a good sense of humor too.
Plus he is another member of the Church of John Moses Browning.

This is one of the problems with going around and telling
the regulars to go **** tehmselves.

Jim


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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:28:38 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:26:55 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"Halcitron" wrote in message
groups.com...

Tom Gardner nospam wrote:
Why can't we just throw the borders open with the stipulation that
everyone
gets registered, weed-out the most blatant undesirables, and make
sure that
SS tax is collected. Problem solved! SS is solvent and we get good
cheap
labor, they get good jobs. Fast-track new citizens, educate and
train.
These people have more ambition and make a better contribution than
many
natural citizens.


How many illegals do you have on your payroll, Tom?

:/


Illegal in what respect? Parole violations? Unpaid parking tickets? Drug
users? Tax cheats? In one way or another, I suppose ALL of my 25 are
illegal. I wish I had some illegal aliens, they have better work ethics
than most "Americans" ...and can read a tape measure.

LOL...still having the tape measure problem?

Gunner

I am. $20 for a tape measure nowadays.

Must have been the 5th store and an ole man jumped in with can I help
you while I was scanning the selection. I told him kinda what I wanted
and that a customer stole my tape cause it had those little numbers on
it and didn't want another one with those on them. He gets ****ed and
walks away saying they all have numbers on them. LOL Big time
communication break down or he was a jerk, didn't want any help
anyhow.



One time I got asked where I was born driving back from Mexico at 4am,
the BPA asks me where I was born I said the 1st state after he asked
me where that was. I could tell he hadn't a clue where it was.

I use to lay on the hood of my car with the runway lights off (most of
the time they didn't work) and watch a good five aircraft fly over at
-700' with the nav lights off. I'm sure it is much more risky today,
but far from a certainty.

I've often thought of buying an assistant mexican , but I heard it was
illegal. Hell, the smart good workers want more than I get sometimes.

I say we just ahhh nationalize, nope. Ahhh Mexico has lots of oil.
Better yet, also tell GB and all them others we made a mistake ,we
meant the whole Americas.

Wish they would get on with it cause I'd like to move farther south
and Texas has been done and not too hip on Fl anymore.

SW , still using the 1/5 dollar dollar store crappy one.


How much ya want to bet I'd get shafted if I made up a fictitious name
and got caught? They would just send me home to try again, right?

Guess with the gas prices climbing over 2.5 I'll never get one of
those big suburban's with the clearly fake star and sea foam green
paint job just to see them scatter. Saw it come down once , looked
like trying to catch a zebra out of the herd from a chopper.

Plus he is another member of the Church of John Moses Browning.

Gunner


I'm thinking of changing Religions... http://www.churchofbodmod.com/

LOL...still having the tape measure problem?

Gunner


Did YOU ever try to teach someone to read a scale? Someone that has "Bitty"
and "Itty-bitty" in their vocabulay as highly technical jargon words? Don't
you DARE laugh!

Tom Gardner (nospam) wrote:
BITE ME!


"Halcitron" wrote in message
oups.com...

Tom Gardner nospam wrote:
"Gunner" wrote in message
Any suggestions on how to weed out the undesirables, the
criminals,
the drug smugglers, the murderers and rapists, those carrying
TB
and
other third world diseases (note the dramatic increase in TB in
the
border states) and so forth?

Just seal the borders between California and the rest of the US,
Keep
the
riff-raff in California, nobody will notice.

Hi Tom,

Either grow up and conduct a mature conversation or go back to your
****ing sand box and play with yourself.

:/

Halcitron


Tom,
I hate top posters. They demonstrate a lack of knowledge of Usenet.
Which is comparable to their social acumen. Tom, just in case, my words
are not sufficfient, to communicate my thoughts, I'll direct you to
please click on this link http://tinyurl.com/65cg8

:/

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:57:53 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
Any suggestions on how to weed out the undesirables, the criminals,
the drug smugglers, the murderers and rapists, those carrying TB and
other third world diseases (note the dramatic increase in TB in the
border states) and so forth?

Just seal the borders between California and the rest of the US, Keep the
riff-raff in California, nobody will notice.

OOOh Tom, Gunner doesn't have that much ammo and might get a little
****ed if he ran out of bullets before he ran out of targets!

Gary Hallenbeck

Tom Gardner (nospam) wrote:
"Halcitron" wrote in message
oups.com...

Tom Gardner nospam wrote:
Why can't we just throw the borders open with the stipulation that
everyone
gets registered, weed-out the most blatant undesirables, and make
sure that
SS tax is collected. Problem solved! SS is solvent and we get
good
cheap
labor, they get good jobs. Fast-track new citizens, educate and
train.
These people have more ambition and make a better contribution
than
many
natural citizens.


How many illegals do you have on your payroll, Tom?

:/


Illegal in what respect? Parole violations? Unpaid parking tickets?
Drug
users? Tax cheats? In one way or another, I suppose ALL of my 25
are
illegal. I wish I had some illegal aliens, they have better work
ethics
than most "Americans" ...and can read a tape measure.

No, Tom. Illegal in respect to Federal immigration and employment laws.
Read a tape measure. Is that all they need to know how to do? You might
need to get off their case so much, Tom, and hold weekly safety and
quality training. Does that cost you too much, from the profit margin?
Tell them to measure twice, and cut once. Tell them to back each other
up, instead of stabbing you in the back. Encourage them to ask the
workmates to inspect each other's jobs. What about procedures and
policies, Tom? Are procedures and policies all "word of mouth"? Are
procedures documented and flowcharted? Are procedures and policies
revidsed continually, and reviewed and republished annually. How about
it, Tom, are you doing your F***ing job?

You're probably thinking of the word "bull****" right about now, which
is what your are full of. But, hey, after all, it's your business, not
mine.

:/

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 04:38:32 GMT, Gary Hallenbeck
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:57:53 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
Any suggestions on how to weed out the undesirables, the criminals,
the drug smugglers, the murderers and rapists, those carrying TB and
other third world diseases (note the dramatic increase in TB in the
border states) and so forth?

Just seal the borders between California and the rest of the US, Keep the
riff-raff in California, nobody will notice.

OOOh Tom, Gunner doesn't have that much ammo and might get a little
****ed if he ran out of bullets before he ran out of targets!

Gary Hallenbeck
Just how much ammo do I have? And components to load more?

A serious dent could be placed in the Liberal Population of
California with the ammo in private hands, just in my town alone.

But....rope or barbed wire works just as well, provides more
entertainment and is reusable over and over again. And there is lots
of it around. And telephone poles can hold at least 4 Libs per pole
on the cross beams.

And we can hire illegals to pull on the ropes.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 03:59:25 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:

LOL...still having the tape measure problem?

Gunner


Did YOU ever try to teach someone to read a scale? Someone that has "Bitty"
and "Itty-bitty" in their vocabulay as highly technical jargon words? Don't
you DARE laugh!


Sounds like my wife:

"Honey..Ill hold the end and you measure

ok

How long is it?

mumble mumble

Huh?

Mumble mumble glasses

Ok dear, go get your glases

Got em? Ok..how long is it?

Mumble mumble

Huh?

Mumble mumble and 84

Huh? Between 83 and 84? Ok..exactly where between?

Mumble mumble big lines

Huh? which big lines?

Mumble mumble snerk!

Huh? Tell you what dear, you climb up here on the ladder, lean way
out and hold the stupid end of the tape and Ill measure, ok?

Mumble mumble....stomp stomp stomp SLAM!

Was it something I said?
Now what did I do with the string.........



Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Fri, 22 Apr 2005 05:56:17 GMT
in rec.crafts.metalworking :

Just seal the borders between California and the rest of the US, Keep the
riff-raff in California, nobody will notice.

OOOh Tom, Gunner doesn't have that much ammo and might get a little
****ed if he ran out of bullets before he ran out of targets!

Gary Hallenbeck
Just how much ammo do I have? And components to load more?

A serious dent could be placed in the Liberal Population of
California with the ammo in private hands, just in my town alone.

But....rope or barbed wire works just as well, provides more
entertainment and is reusable over and over again. And there is lots
of it around. And telephone poles can hold at least 4 Libs per pole
on the cross beams.

And we can hire illegals to pull on the ropes.

You sir, have a fine, devious, sense of humor. I salute you.


pyotr

--
pyotr filipivich.
as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James
Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at
producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with."

Tom Gardner nospam wrote:
LOL...still having the tape measure problem?

Gunner


Did YOU ever try to teach someone to read a scale? Someone that has
"Bitty"
and "Itty-bitty" in their vocabulay as highly technical jargon words?
Don't
you DARE laugh!

Well, I thought an RCH (red **** hair) was a fine unit of measurement,
until I had to measure the adjustment of a screwdriver to "think you
turned it".

I interviewed for a precision assembler job, back in 1999. The pay
would have been $16.50 an hour. Damned good money for me.

As the assemblies were assembled, the assemblers used lasers to measure
the surfaces to ensure a proper fit, and no warping of the pieces. My
interviewer said the accuracy was measured in microns. I was looking
forward to working there for the pay, but I looked around at the
unhappy faces of my future coworkers, to sort of gage the atmosphere,
when the guy interviewing me, said "Americans cannot get that accurate,
but we French can".

:/