Making a female pto shaft
 

I have a small metal tubing shaft that goes to my dads tiller. The
female end is a little too short and when I get on uneven ground the
male shaft is on the very tip of the female shaft and breaks the female
shaft.

I cant find the female tuning anywhere as it seems to be an odd size.

Is it possible to make some tubing? How would I go about doing that? I
am not an expert metal worker, but I do have some scrap metal around, a
set of torches and a welder. The shaft only needs to be about 20
inches.

Can I somehow tack a piece of plate to the male shaft and "bend" a
piece of plate around it to form a tube? I am guessing that I could not
get the metal hot enough along the whole 20 inches to bend it though.

How much difference in size does the pto female shaft need to be in
size related to the male shaft? I assuming too small and it will not
slide in and out, too large a gap and the male will just sit and spin
inside the female shaft.

Any Advice is appreciated!

I assume you are refering to a tractor pto shaft. My 5 foot slasher has a
pto drive shaft shaft is square cross section and there is no steel supplies
standard size box tubing that will fit it properly. The local tractor
supplier had the right female drive shaft with the correct size inside
square and a round outside of the shaft. It is much heavier duty then an
offcut of box steel and will (according to the salesman!?!) provide a longer
life than mild steel. As I use my (heavy duty) slasher like a rotary plow
and lantana destrustion device and have a heap of rocks in my paddocks, it
was worth it to have a machine that is realible and allows me to advertise
to all my neighbours that I 'm playing with the slasher...... If I leave the
back plate open, it will throw a brick a couple of dozen times further than
I can.....

The local engineering shop cut off the old worn section and welded it onto
the original drive shaft and kept it in line in the process. The drive shaft
was about $28 for the required 20 odd inch length, and about $20 for the
welding.

You may be able to weld it on yourself, and if the diameters are the same, a
simple piece of angle iron held in a vice is enough to give you a welding
bracket, if the diameters are different, a bit of offcut sheet may provide
suitable packing.

You will need a long enough piece to provide slide movement throughout the
lift range of the tractor, and engage enough at the outward extreme travel
and so the male does not bottom out inside the female piece at any part of
the travel. Pack grease into it to provide lube and rustproofing.

Hope this helps,
Peter


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I have a small metal tubing shaft that goes to my dads tiller. The
female end is a little too short and when I get on uneven ground the
male shaft is on the very tip of the female shaft and breaks the female
shaft.

I cant find the female tuning anywhere as it seems to be an odd size.

Is it possible to make some tubing? How would I go about doing that? I
am not an expert metal worker, but I do have some scrap metal around, a
set of torches and a welder. The shaft only needs to be about 20
inches.

Can I somehow tack a piece of plate to the male shaft and "bend" a
piece of plate around it to form a tube? I am guessing that I could not
get the metal hot enough along the whole 20 inches to bend it though.

How much difference in size does the pto female shaft need to be in
size related to the male shaft? I assuming too small and it will not
slide in and out, too large a gap and the male will just sit and spin
inside the female shaft.

Any Advice is appreciated!

I run a fair bit of pto implimpents and the local driveline shop
carries most common parts. What dimensions do you need?
Is your tiller properly mounted? Check out these guys for
mail order stuff http://www.valu-bilt.com/
or
http://www.agri-supply.com/catmain/catmain.htm

Not sure how much HP your dealing with but having a pto
assembly fail behind you under load can ruin your whole day,
not to mention the back of your head.....I've had em grenade
with a bang. If the tubing is an odd size you might have to
replace the male to get a matching set up. Be safe
when dealing with pto's and follow all the safety rules.

\DE

On 18 Apr 2005 05:26:59 -0700, wrote:

I have a small metal tubing shaft that goes to my dads tiller. The
female end is a little too short and when I get on uneven ground the
male shaft is on the very tip of the female shaft and breaks the female
shaft.

I cant find the female tuning anywhere as it seems to be an odd size.

Is it possible to make some tubing? How would I go about doing that? I
am not an expert metal worker, but I do have some scrap metal around, a
set of torches and a welder. The shaft only needs to be about 20
inches.

Can I somehow tack a piece of plate to the male shaft and "bend" a
piece of plate around it to form a tube? I am guessing that I could not
get the metal hot enough along the whole 20 inches to bend it though.

How much difference in size does the pto female shaft need to be in
size related to the male shaft? I assuming too small and it will not
slide in and out, too large a gap and the male will just sit and spin
inside the female shaft.

Any Advice is appreciated!


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For USA made PTO drivelines; I usually figure out what I need from
Drawings and Part numbers on G&G Mfg.'s web site:
http://www.ggmfg.com
PTO Components page:
http://www.ggmfg.com/product_subcate...pto_drivelines

Once, I know what I want, I have one of my local Ag implement dealers
order the correct component from G&G.
I just got a slip-sleeve, part# 194-3500 for a 35N PTO to weld into the
female tube. The slip-sleeve accepts the male shaft. You can use the
slip-sleeve to change the length of your female tube. Tubing is also
available.
http://www.ggmfg.com/product_subsubc...=337&catP K=7
http://www.ggmfg.com/images/subcat_images/80_1.jpg
The old shaft's slip-sleeve broke out in a manner similar to what you just
described.

If you have a UK or European made drive line, try some of the previously
mentioned Ag suppliers for tubing and parts, as well as, local ag dealers.

wrote:
I have a small metal tubing shaft that goes to my dads tiller. The
female end is a little too short and when I get on uneven ground the
male shaft is on the very tip of the female shaft and breaks the female
shaft.

I cant find the female tuning anywhere as it seems to be an odd size.

Is it possible to make some tubing? How would I go about doing that? I
am not an expert metal worker, but I do have some scrap metal around, a
set of torches and a welder. The shaft only needs to be about 20
inches.

Can I somehow tack a piece of plate to the male shaft and "bend" a
piece of plate around it to form a tube? I am guessing that I could not
get the metal hot enough along the whole 20 inches to bend it though.

How much difference in size does the pto female shaft need to be in
size related to the male shaft? I assuming too small and it will not
slide in and out, too large a gap and the male will just sit and spin
inside the female shaft.

Any Advice is appreciated!

What size is it? If it's a small tiller, chances are it's foreign, quite
possibly Italian.
They tend to use metric PTO's, usually Bondioli and Pavesi. European uses a
lot
of Walterscheid. Is the shaft rectangular, "lemon" shaped, or 3 lobed?

Any good local agricultural dealer should be able to fix you up. Where are
you located? Is there a Driveline Service anywhere near?


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I have a small metal tubing shaft that goes to my dads tiller. The
female end is a little too short and when I get on uneven ground the
male shaft is on the very tip of the female shaft and breaks the female
shaft.

I cant find the female tuning anywhere as it seems to be an odd size.