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I am tired of chinese stuff, please help me!
Hi there,
i am an italian guy writing from rome, i am posting here to look for any suggestion... i am tired of chinese products, i would like to manufacture something metal object in my garage at a competitive price like chinese one. Could you help me with any idea? thank you! |
Pick on the Germans, the French, even the Americans. What the hell, everyone
else does! Mess with the Chinese or Indians and they'll beat you like a red haired stepchild. Steve wrote in message om... Hi there, i am an italian guy writing from rome, i am posting here to look for any suggestion... i am tired of chinese products, i would like to manufacture something metal object in my garage at a competitive price like chinese one. Could you help me with any idea? thank you! |
wrote in message om... Hi there, i am an italian guy writing from rome, i am posting here to look for any suggestion... i am tired of chinese products, i would like to manufacture something metal object in my garage at a competitive price like chinese one. Could you help me with any idea? thank you! Find a niche and fill it. You would be best served to try to find something you can control from raw materials to retail. Let's say something you can make to sell to tourists. You will need one LAAARGE garage to produce items on a scale to compete with the Chinese. Plus, if you have a winner, they will "knock it off" in less than a week, and have exact replicas of your widget selling in your market for half your price. steve |
Since you are talking about doing it in your garage, I am assuming that
you are looking for a niche. One item that I can think of is the specialized tools that are used to make oboe and bassoon reeds. Find some oboe players and ask to look at the tools they use to make reeds. Work with them to come up with some improvements. And figure out a good way to get knowledge of your improved tool to all the oboe and bassoon players. You would probably have to set up a web site and also send letters to various orchestras telling of your web site. The tools are not extremely heavy and could be shipped all over the world. Dan |
I know! Leaning Tower statuettes! The market must be wide open on
those....isn't it? Or maybe it's Mussolini busts I'm thinking of.... JR Dweller in the cellar SteveB wrote: Find a niche and fill it. steve -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses -------------------------------------------------------------- Dependence is Vulnerability: -------------------------------------------------------------- "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.." |
"JR North" wrote in message ... I know! Leaning Tower statuettes! The market must be wide open on those....isn't it? Or maybe it's Mussolini busts I'm thinking of.... JR Dweller in the cellar SteveB wrote: Find a niche and fill it. steve More successful men have made it by filling a niche than reinventing the wheel. Anyone who has been in business will tell you to: Identify the market - will these people buy this product? Do people have the disposable income in this market to spend their money for my product/service? Is there a need for this product/service? Or is it something that I just really like, and not many other people would buy for themselves? How many people are already providing this product/service? Too many people doing it means the slice of the total sales pie I can claim will be small. Are there any holes where needs are not being met? (This is the most fertile ground ....... niches, as I call them.) I have seen countless businesses fail because they did not research these basic business concepts. The OP said he wanted something to do out of his garage that could compete with Chinese goods. By making that statement, I knew he was clueless. So, I made the suggestion of a plausible alternative. To stay within his own market, identify a need, and fill that niche. What are your suggestions? Steve BTW, I wonder just how many leaning Tower of Pisa statuettes have been sold in the last fifty years. I would estimate it to be in the Million$, and that would probably be very low. I would bet you a month's pay that plaster leaning Tower of Pisa souvenirs have bought a few men a few Mercedes over the past fifty years. |
I live just near Vatican, and here is full of souvenir shop,
what do you think to buy a machine like that http://www.coincrafters.com/newsite/...d/attended.htm and make coins to sell at that shop for retailing? Rome is a relatively expensive city in a country with costs broadly similar to other developed countries. You can't make anything that will compete with the China price if it is made in large quantity (eg. MOQ one TEU container). Stick to special niche stuff that you understand well and that has little competition and you can do fine. Try to compete head-on and you'll get slaughtered. Don't judge their costs by the selling price in your country, even big international companies have made that mistake and have paid dearly. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany |
I think you might be able to make some money with a machine like that.
but I think you need something a bit different from what they currently have. Perhaps a scenes of various Roman historic sites with a month and year on the back. I can see where I might buy a souvenir especially if it had the month and year when I was there. I would not buy one that said" my lucky Penny ". Dan |
Spehro Pefhany wrote: On 2 Apr 2005 06:15:50 -0800, the renowned ) wrote: Hi there, i am an italian guy writing from rome, i am posting here to look for any suggestion... i am tired of chinese products, i would like to manufacture something metal object in my garage at a competitive price like chinese one. Could you help me with any idea? thank you! Rome is a relatively expensive city in a country with costs broadly similar to other developed countries. You can't make anything that will compete with the China price if it is made in large quantity (eg. MOQ one TEU container). Stick to special niche stuff that you understand well and that has little competition and you can do fine. Try to compete head-on and you'll get slaughtered. Don't judge their costs by the selling price in your country, even big international companies have made that mistake and have paid dearly. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Yea...Costs of chinese stuff in china are waaaaaay lower than the western world sees. In 97 on a visit to a fabricator there, he was paying less than $ 1 US for a 1 HP open frame motor. Of course they had to test every one before installation and had a high reject rate but I would guess you are actually competing at about 20% of the retail cost. Yes, you could improve the situation by skipping all the middlemen but it would still be nearly impossible to make money on a fabrication/direct sale of a near-duplicate product. The answer to the original question is "art". The value in art (and fabricated art-like items) is all in the labor and brainwork put in rather than the materials/production. Koz |
wrote: I live just near Vatican, and here is full of souvenir shop, what do you think to buy a machine like that http://www.coincrafters.com/newsite/...d/attended.htm and make coins to sell at that shop for retailing? Rome is a relatively expensive city in a country with costs broadly similar to other developed countries. You can't make anything that will compete with the China price if it is made in large quantity (eg. MOQ one TEU container). Stick to special niche stuff that you understand well and that has little competition and you can do fine. Try to compete head-on and you'll get slaughtered. Don't judge their costs by the selling price in your country, even big international companies have made that mistake and have paid dearly. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany In the past life I worked at the Space Needle (think near a million visitors a year) and was the guy who had to fix the coin flattening machine. Some guy in southwest Washington built his own machines and got the Space Needle to install them. At $ .25 a pop in the early 80's there were probably 50 to 100 users a day during the summer. Maintenance was minimal and mostly consisted of getting the odd stuck penny out. Machines were fully sealed and motor powered rather than the crank style. people perferred watching the motor turn the gears (extra gears for show) to the hand crank machines in other places. The real money was in the pay telescopes......Ever try and carry a 5 gallon bucket filled with quarters? Koz (who begins to wonder if the old pay toilets actually turned a profit) |
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