stovetop eye
 

Good morning,

I accidently left a plastic bread bag on a warm stovetop eye. How can
I get the melted plastic off the 'eye"?

Thanks

"Elliot" wrote in message
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Good morning,

I accidently left a plastic bread bag on a warm stovetop eye. How can
I get the melted plastic off the 'eye"?

Thanks

By "eye" do you mean the electric burner? If so, scrape off what you can
and turn the sucker on high. Be prepared for a little smell as it burns
off, but it will clean right up.

An old stove with pilot lite in the middle? Maybe a new razor blade if
the surrounding is ceramic. maybe getting it real warm will help. Or is
it on a burner.

Elliot wrote:
Good morning,

I accidently left a plastic bread bag on a warm stovetop eye. How
can
I get the melted plastic off the 'eye"?

Thanks

Hi,
You could try warming up the mess with a hair dryer and have a scraper
or razer blade handy/ready to scrap off what you can when the bag gets
soft.

Failing scrapping it off, might need to replace the element.

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
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"Appliance Repair Aid" wrote in message

Failing scrapping it off, might need to replace the element.

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/


Why? Most plastics melt at about 190 degrees. It will burn off with a
little smoke and odor and then be as good as new.

Why?

Not all elements have a smooth surface, older ones may be rough on the
surface and many times ALL of the plastic will not "burn" off...and
some plastics are toxic when burnt!

When is doubt, though it out and replace the element.

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/

"Appliance Repair Aid" wrote in message
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Why?

Not all elements have a smooth surface, older ones may be rough on the
surface and many times ALL of the plastic will not "burn" off...and
some plastics are toxic when burnt!

When is doubt, though it out and replace the element.


It was a bread bag. Very thin, not much material, nothing toxic when it
burns. You'll get a little odor, but probably less than when a pot of soup
boils over a little. You'll bet more smoke than when you self clean an oven
and it will all be over in two minutes, tops. To discard an element for
such a minor thing is just plain wasteful, silly, and unneeded. Sorry, bit
I'm not going to agree on this.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

It was a bread bag. Very thin, not much material, nothing toxic when
it
burns. You'll get a little odor, but probably less than when a pot
of soup
boils over a little. You'll bet more smoke than when you self clean
an oven
and it will all be over in two minutes, tops. To discard an element
for
such a minor thing is just plain wasteful, silly, and unneeded.
Sorry, bit
I'm not going to agree on this.

Hi,

To discard an element for
such a minor thing is just plain wasteful, silly, and unneeded.

We will agree to disagree!

It was a bread bag. Very thin, not much material, nothing toxic when
it
burns.

Read on....
http://www.socialpages.com.pk/110/plastic.asp
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc.../chem00031.htm
http://www.gov.pe.ca/infopei/index.p...r=60944&lang=E

Just some info on the subject.

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/

"Appliance Repair Aid" wrote in message
Read on....
http://www.socialpages.com.pk/110/plastic.asp
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc.../chem00031.htm
http://www.gov.pe.ca/infopei/index.p...r=60944&lang=E

Just some info on the subject.



No, this is really not on the subject, apples and oranges. They mention PVC
here, not the polyethylene of a bread bag. Part of my job for the past 35
years is to do burn tests on some plastics. I have learned a little about
it.

The ecological impact of tossing a perfectly good heating element and
wasting the resources to make a new one are far more detrimental than just
burning of a fraction of a gram of PE.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
No, this is really not on the subject, apples and oranges. They
mention PVC
here, not the polyethylene of a bread bag. Part of my job for the
past 35
years is to do burn tests on some plastics. I have learned a little
about
it.

The ecological impact of tossing a perfectly good heating element and

wasting the resources to make a new one are far more detrimental than
just
burning of a fraction of a gram of PE.

Polyethylene has some hazards...
http://www.queenstribune.com/news/1092331943.html
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc.../chem00922.htm

Part of my job for the past 35
years is to do burn tests on some plastics.

Part of my job for the last 25 years and present has been to help some
people with plastic, kettle bottoms, purses, coats, pots melted to an
element. I have learned a lot about this ;)

The ecological impact of tossing a perfectly good heating element and

wasting the resources to make a new one are far more detrimental than
just
burning of a fraction of a gram of PE.

This comming from a group that seems to tell every other microwave
poster to "throw out there old one and buy a new one"!?!?

The manufacturing and disposal of one element vrs the manufacturing and
disposal of an microwave don't compare....apples and oranges maybe, but
people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/

"Appliance Repair Aid" wrote in message

Polyethylene has some hazards...
http://www.queenstribune.com/news/1092331943.html
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc.../chem00922.htm

Yes, so does water.

This comming from a group that seems to tell every other microwave
poster to "throw out there old one and buy a new one"!?!?

The manufacturing and disposal of one element vrs the manufacturing and
disposal of an microwave don't compare....apples and oranges maybe, but
people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!

It is just not very practical to repair most older microwaves or any small
appliance for that matter. I would not spend $30 to fix a $9 toaster even
though it is not ecologically sound. Nor would I buy a $40 stove element
because it has a gram of plastic stuck to it. There will be far less
chemical reaction than burning candles on the dinner table.

Well, paying 75$ to fix a 350$ microvave when new ones go for under 50
is not worth it. I just paid 35 instead of repairing at 100$ Repair
shops labor is high. If it can burn off as Ed says, burn it. It doesnt
sound like a big issue, it isnt a melted pound of glob from a cutting
board or tupperware.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

**Very thin, not much material, nothing toxic when it burns**

**There will be far less chemical reaction than burning candles on
the
dinner table.**

Back peddling now are we....first there was NO toxic reaction and now
there is a little!!??!!

It is just not very practical to repair most older microwaves or any
small
appliance for that matter. I would not spend $30 to fix a $9 toaster
even
though it is not ecologically sound. Nor would I buy a $40 stove
element
because it has a gram of plastic stuck to it. There will be far less
chemical reaction than burning candles on the dinner table.

Any repairs over approx 50% of the cost to replace of a new microwave
is possibly not worth it....but my point was most things that I read
are people are not even told to check it out because a new counter top
one at Wally world is $49.97 so throw it out....that theory will get us
land fills full of microwaves/toasters/kettles/etc which may be even
more toxic than the element burning is.

Sorry, the wool may be pulled over others but not here. Your theory and
?proof? is non existant.

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/

m Ransley wrote:
Well, paying 75$ to fix a 350$ microvave when new ones go for under
50
is not worth it. I just paid 35 instead of repairing at 100$ Repair
shops labor is high. If it can burn off as Ed says, burn it. It
doesnt
sound like a big issue, it isnt a melted pound of glob from a cutting
board or tupperware.

Right it is in total a very small amount. If the paranoid are really
worried about the fumes, leave the house until it is done. Yes,
burning plastic produces bad things. In this case, the bad things
produced are too little to be concerned with.

Harry K

"Appliance Repair Aid" wrote in message
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

**Very thin, not much material, nothing toxic when it burns**

**There will be far less chemical reaction than burning candles on
the
dinner table.**

Back peddling now are we....first there was NO toxic reaction and now
there is a little!!??!!


Problems with reading comprehension?

Nothing toxic and less chemical reaction do not mean the same thing. Eating
an egg causes a chemcial reaction in your body. Opening a bottle of soda
causes a chemical reaction inside the bottle. I suggest you read a
dictionary.




Sorry, the wool may be pulled over others but not here. Your theory and
?proof? is non existant.

jeff.

Pulling the wool over the eyes suggests that the eyes are available, and not
on a head stuck elsewhere.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

Problems with reading comprehension?

None.
Your posts contradict one another and when others try to help or have
an differen opinion to yours you object....tough and too bad!

Nothing toxic and less chemical reaction do not mean the same thing.
Eating
an egg causes a chemcial reaction in your body. Opening a bottle of
soda
causes a chemical reaction inside the bottle. I suggest you read a
dictionary.

Apples and oranges....your words and not mine!


Pulling the wool over the eyes suggests that the eyes are available,
and not
on a head stuck elsewhere.

LOL...good try at humour.

One for you...
http://www.applianceaid.com/pictools/headbutt.jpg

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/

"Appliance Repair Aid" wrote in message
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

Problems with reading comprehension?

None.
Your posts contradict one another

Still have that comprehension problem, I see. There is nothing
contradictory about them. I said it would not be toxic, but any time you
burn anything, you will have chemical reaction. Burning is a chemical
reaction. It is a rapid form of oxidation. Anything that burns gives off
some sort of chemical, often soot, carbon dioxide, and water. In excess,
any of the three is not good for you health, but in tiny amounts will not
kill you. The soot given of by the bag residue is going to be less than
the candle buring on the dinner table.


and when others try to help or have
an differen opinion to yours you object....tough and too bad!

Only if I'm right and they are wrong. I respect that others have different
solutions to problems as there are often many ways to solve a problem. But
if the other opinion is just plain wrong, I will point that out as a public
service to those that may othewise follow the erroneous advice. .



Nothing toxic and less chemical reaction do not mean the same thing.
Eating
an egg causes a chemcial reaction in your body. Opening a bottle of
soda
causes a chemical reaction inside the bottle. I suggest you read a
dictionary.

Apples and oranges....your words and not mine!

My words, but it was your incorrect interpretation. I still stand by my
original comments.
Ed

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
There is nothing
contradictory about them. I said it would not be toxic,

**It was a bread bag. Very thin, not much material, nothing toxic when
it
burns**

but any time you
burn anything, you will have chemical reaction. Burning is a
chemical
reaction. It is a rapid form of oxidation. Anything that burns
gives off
some sort of chemical, often soot, carbon dioxide, and water. In
excess,
any of the three is not good for you health, but in tiny amounts will
not
kill you.

And *I* have that comprehension problem?!?!

and when others try to help or have
an differen opinion to yours you object....tough and too bad!
Only if I'm right and they are wrong. I respect that others have
different
solutions to problems as there are often many ways to solve a
problem.

Sorry, too many variables here to be right or wrong....element style
(solid, coil, coil under glass, electric, gas, etc)...amount being
burned, etc....an opinion or suggestion is open to interpretation and
leaving out details ( minor or not ) is a form of lying.

But
if the other opinion is just plain wrong, I will point that out as a
public
service to those that may othewise follow the erroneous advice. .

LOL!! What a crock!!

Again...agree to disagree :)

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/

"Appliance Repair Aid" wrote in message
ups.com...

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
There is nothing
contradictory about them. I said it would not be toxic,

**It was a bread bag. Very thin, not much material, nothing toxic when
it
burns**

but any time you
burn anything, you will have chemical reaction. Burning is a
chemical
reaction. It is a rapid form of oxidation. Anything that burns
gives off
some sort of chemical, often soot, carbon dioxide, and water. In
excess,
any of the three is not good for you health, but in tiny amounts will
not
kill you.

And *I* have that comprehension problem?!?!

Boy, you sure do. The most benign compounds like oxygen and water, will
kill you in excess. A tiny amount of soot is not toxic. You breath it most
every day if you are in the downstream of a powerplant oil heated house,
camp fire, etc. We are not talking phosgene here. The fact that a
chemical reaction takes place is not a bad thing. Digesting your food is a
chemical reaction. Cures from medications are chemical reactions. The same
medication that cures you, wrongly applied or in excessive amounts, will
kill you. I'm sure you will not comprehend the logic of this so I will not
bother the rest of the group here and just let you go on if you'd like.


leaving out details ( minor or not ) is a form of lying.

But
if the other opinion is just plain wrong, I will point that out as a
public
service to those that may othewise follow the erroneous advice. .

LOL!! What a crock!!

Hey, that is one of my best qualities! Now you hurt my sensitive feelings.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
I'm sure you will not comprehend the logic of this so I will not
bother the rest of the group here and just let you go on if you'd
like.

Since *I* understand and *you* do not, I will let this go :D

LOL!! What a crock!!

Hey, that is one of my best qualities! Now you hurt my sensitive
feelings.

Didn't mean to point out any faults or hurt any feelings!

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/

Nobody even knows what type of burner it is, or make and model or how
much melted on it, maybe all that is left is a drip or maybe a glob, you
want toxic, my cooking is toxic.