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[email protected] March 1st 05 06:13 AM

Buzzing Fluorescent Lamps
 
I'm at my wits end here.

I have two identical rapid start 2 lamp 4 foot T12 fixtures in my
bathroom both of which are about a year old. One buzzes and always
has; the other is silent. I want to install a new fluorescent fixture
in the kitchen but SWMBO says not if it buzzes and points to the
bathroom fixture and my inability to stop its buzzing. Since this
isn't the first fixture that buzzed she points out that obviously
fluorescent lights are not yet ready for prime time. Unfortunately I
have to agree with her but in a last ditch effort to prove that it's
mere accident and not the innate incompetence of the manufacturers I'm
trying to get the bathroom buzzer to stop.

Both lights are on the same circuit wired through one switch. The
hot/black is the wire interrupted and is correctly connected to the
black from the ballast in each. When the switch is off neither white
nor black carry any current. The white is correctly connected to the
white of the ballast. I've checked and re-checked all electrical
connections. Both fixtures and hence the ballasts are grounded
properly. I've swapped the lamps from the non-buzzer to the buzzer. No
effect; the buzzer still buzzes. I've replaced the lamps in the buzzer
with new ones. It still buzzes. Since the buzzing seems to come from
the ballast, I bought and installed a new ballast (same size for T12
40 W); the new ballast buzzes just the same as the original.

I'm not sure if this has any relevance but if I remove both lamps
(with the switch on) the buzzing stops. If I then install one lamp
there's no buzzing but the lamp doesn't light. If I then install the
second lamp both lamps light and the ballast buzzes.

Someone must have some ideas...



PrecisionMachinisT March 1st 05 06:34 AM


wrote in message
...
I'm at my wits end here.

I have two identical rapid start 2 lamp 4 foot T12 fixtures in my
bathroom both of which are about a year old. One buzzes and always
has; the other is silent. I want to install a new fluorescent fixture
in the kitchen but SWMBO says not if it buzzes and points to the
bathroom fixture and my inability to stop its buzzing. Since this
isn't the first fixture that buzzed she points out that obviously
fluorescent lights are not yet ready for prime time. Unfortunately I
have to agree with her but in a last ditch effort to prove that it's
mere accident and not the innate incompetence of the manufacturers I'm
trying to get the bathroom buzzer to stop.

Both lights are on the same circuit wired through one switch. The
hot/black is the wire interrupted and is correctly connected to the
black from the ballast in each. When the switch is off neither white
nor black carry any current. The white is correctly connected to the
white of the ballast. I've checked and re-checked all electrical
connections. Both fixtures and hence the ballasts are grounded
properly. I've swapped the lamps from the non-buzzer to the buzzer. No
effect; the buzzer still buzzes. I've replaced the lamps in the buzzer
with new ones. It still buzzes. Since the buzzing seems to come from
the ballast, I bought and installed a new ballast (same size for T12
40 W); the new ballast buzzes just the same as the original.

I'm not sure if this has any relevance but if I remove both lamps
(with the switch on) the buzzing stops. If I then install one lamp
there's no buzzing but the lamp doesn't light. If I then install the
second lamp both lamps light and the ballast buzzes.

Someone must have some ideas...


The ballast is probly just vibrating cause of loose mounting.

Maybe try putting a layer of electrical tape under it between it and the
metal light fixture frame or something along those lines.

--

SVL




RBM March 1st 05 12:52 PM

The 4 foot T12 fixture is and always has been a miserable design. There are
higher quality ballasts you could buy, or just keep switching standard
ballasts until you get lucky. IMHO the best solution is to get an electronic
ballast for (2-32 watt T8 lamps) the ballast and the T8 lamps will work in
the same fixture and will work better and will not buzz
"PrecisionMachinisT" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
I'm at my wits end here.

I have two identical rapid start 2 lamp 4 foot T12 fixtures in my
bathroom both of which are about a year old. One buzzes and always
has; the other is silent. I want to install a new fluorescent fixture
in the kitchen but SWMBO says not if it buzzes and points to the
bathroom fixture and my inability to stop its buzzing. Since this
isn't the first fixture that buzzed she points out that obviously
fluorescent lights are not yet ready for prime time. Unfortunately I
have to agree with her but in a last ditch effort to prove that it's
mere accident and not the innate incompetence of the manufacturers I'm
trying to get the bathroom buzzer to stop.

Both lights are on the same circuit wired through one switch. The
hot/black is the wire interrupted and is correctly connected to the
black from the ballast in each. When the switch is off neither white
nor black carry any current. The white is correctly connected to the
white of the ballast. I've checked and re-checked all electrical
connections. Both fixtures and hence the ballasts are grounded
properly. I've swapped the lamps from the non-buzzer to the buzzer. No
effect; the buzzer still buzzes. I've replaced the lamps in the buzzer
with new ones. It still buzzes. Since the buzzing seems to come from
the ballast, I bought and installed a new ballast (same size for T12
40 W); the new ballast buzzes just the same as the original.

I'm not sure if this has any relevance but if I remove both lamps
(with the switch on) the buzzing stops. If I then install one lamp
there's no buzzing but the lamp doesn't light. If I then install the
second lamp both lamps light and the ballast buzzes.

Someone must have some ideas...


The ballast is probly just vibrating cause of loose mounting.

Maybe try putting a layer of electrical tape under it between it and the
metal light fixture frame or something along those lines.

--

SVL






Travis Jordan March 1st 05 02:59 PM

RBM wrote:
The 4 foot T12 fixture is and always has been a miserable design.
There are higher quality ballasts you could buy, or just keep
switching standard ballasts until you get lucky. IMHO the best
solution is to get an electronic ballast for (2-32 watt T8 lamps) the
ballast and the T8 lamps will work in the same fixture and will work
better and will not buzz "PrecisionMachinisT"


Excellent advice.

See also:
http://www.ecmweb.com/construction/e...allast_update/



Joseph Meehan March 1st 05 04:36 PM

wrote:
I'm at my wits end here.


I agree with RBM Replace them with good T-8's and you will likely be
very happy. Greater efficiency, much less chance of buzzing.

You might be able to retrofit the old fixtures with replacement
electronic ballast, but just replacing the whole thing is a better idea in
my mind.

She who must be obeyed, will think you are a hero.


I have two identical rapid start 2 lamp 4 foot T12 fixtures in my
bathroom both of which are about a year old. One buzzes and always
has; the other is silent. I want to install a new fluorescent fixture
in the kitchen but SWMBO says not if it buzzes and points to the
bathroom fixture and my inability to stop its buzzing. Since this
isn't the first fixture that buzzed she points out that obviously
fluorescent lights are not yet ready for prime time. Unfortunately I
have to agree with her but in a last ditch effort to prove that it's
mere accident and not the innate incompetence of the manufacturers I'm
trying to get the bathroom buzzer to stop.

Both lights are on the same circuit wired through one switch. The
hot/black is the wire interrupted and is correctly connected to the
black from the ballast in each. When the switch is off neither white
nor black carry any current. The white is correctly connected to the
white of the ballast. I've checked and re-checked all electrical
connections. Both fixtures and hence the ballasts are grounded
properly. I've swapped the lamps from the non-buzzer to the buzzer. No
effect; the buzzer still buzzes. I've replaced the lamps in the buzzer
with new ones. It still buzzes. Since the buzzing seems to come from
the ballast, I bought and installed a new ballast (same size for T12
40 W); the new ballast buzzes just the same as the original.

I'm not sure if this has any relevance but if I remove both lamps
(with the switch on) the buzzing stops. If I then install one lamp
there's no buzzing but the lamp doesn't light. If I then install the
second lamp both lamps light and the ballast buzzes.

Someone must have some ideas...


--
Joseph Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math




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