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A contractor I had been talking to about repalcing my dying outside
2 ton A/C condensing unit with a of his new overstock heat pump
outside units ( he is heavily discounting below the the cost of a std
a/c condensing it because it is brand he does't use anymore but will
warranty it ) . He told me that changes are planned for the inside
coil as it is a 2 ton unit too and it is just a mmter of wiring the
unit to work only in A/C mode . Is this correct ? - thanks
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A contractor I had been talking to about repalcing my dying outside
2 ton A/C condensing unit with a of his new overstock heat pump
outside units ( he is heavily discounting below the the cost of a std
a/c condensing it because it is brand he does't use anymore but will
warranty it ) . He told me that changes are planned for the inside
coil as it is a 2 ton unit too and it is just a mmter of wiring the
unit to work only in A/C mode . Is this correct ? - thanks


If you replace the inside coil at the same time as the outside unit, you'll
(probably) get the full efficiency rating out of the new unit. Just make
sure the coils are matched.


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You will be ok so long as the Cooling Coil and Heat Pump are matched.
Heat Pump compressors are much more durable than compressors in
Condensing Units., so, it should last a very long time.

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A contractor I had been talking to about repalcing my dying outside
2 ton A/C condensing unit with a of his new overstock heat pump
outside units ( he is heavily discounting below the the cost of a std
a/c condensing it because it is brand he does't use anymore but will
warranty it ) . He told me that changes are planned for the inside
coil as it is a 2 ton unit too and it is just a mmter of wiring the
unit to work only in A/C mode . Is this correct ? - thanks



Dunno...you dont mention the brand, not that it matters, but I would be wary
of anyone that claims they can sell you a heat pump unit for below the cost
of a straight AC unit...period.
If hes a legit contractor, he can move the heat pumps with those that need
them, and can still sell you a new condensing unit for a discount should he
be wanting to make you a deal.
Most..NOT ALL, but most heat pumps run wholesale more than double that of a
straight AC unit....so...its up to you what you want to do.

Its not a Goodman or Janitrol outside unit is it?

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You will be ok so long as the Cooling Coil and Heat Pump are matched.
Heat Pump compressors are much more durable than compressors in
Condensing Units., so, it should last a very long time.


Huh?

are you sure you wanted to say this?

"Heat pump compressors are more durable that compressors in condensing
units?"

If so please provide manufacture and model number so I can learn something
new.

Or did you mean heat pumps last longer than straight cool units?
Again please provide the information for back up.




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Here we have HACKfella making more unfounded statements and hoping
everyone will accept his "genuis" advice..
Tell us again dave, why you think the Sun runs by Nitrogen-Helium
fusion?

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"Steve@carolinabreezehvac" wrote
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A contractor I had been talking to about repalcing my dying outside
2 ton A/C condensing unit with a of his new overstock heat pump
outside units ( he is heavily discounting below the the cost of a std
a/c condensing it because it is brand he does't use anymore but will
warranty it ) . He told me that changes are planned for the inside
coil as it is a 2 ton unit too and it is just a mmter of wiring the
unit to work only in A/C mode . Is this correct ? - thanks



Dunno...you dont mention the brand, not that it matters, but I would be

wary
of anyone that claims they can sell you a heat pump unit for below the

cost
of a straight AC unit...period.
If hes a legit contractor, he can move the heat pumps with those that need
them, and can still sell you a new condensing unit for a discount should

he
be wanting to make you a deal.
Most..NOT ALL, but most heat pumps run wholesale more than double that of

a
straight AC unit....so...its up to you what you want to do.

Its not a Goodman or Janitrol outside unit is it?


I don't believe Janitrol is made anymore. I was at the Goodman Factory in
Houston and they don't make them there.


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"Steve@carolinabreezehvac" wrote
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A contractor I had been talking to about repalcing my dying outside
2 ton A/C condensing unit with a of his new overstock heat pump
outside units ( he is heavily discounting below the the cost of a std
a/c condensing it because it is brand he does't use anymore but will
warranty it ) . He told me that changes are planned for the inside
coil as it is a 2 ton unit too and it is just a mmter of wiring the
unit to work only in A/C mode . Is this correct ? - thanks



Dunno...you dont mention the brand, not that it matters, but I would be

wary
of anyone that claims they can sell you a heat pump unit for below the

cost
of a straight AC unit...period.
If hes a legit contractor, he can move the heat pumps with those that need
them, and can still sell you a new condensing unit for a discount should

he
be wanting to make you a deal.
Most..NOT ALL, but most heat pumps run wholesale more than double that of

a
straight AC unit....so...its up to you what you want to do.

Its not a Goodman or Janitrol outside unit is it?


I don't believe Janitrol is made anymore. I was at the Goodman Factory in
Houston and they don't make them there.


This is Turtle.

She's right !

TURTLE


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"Kathy" wrote in message
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"Steve@carolinabreezehvac" wrote
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A contractor I had been talking to about repalcing my dying outside
2 ton A/C condensing unit with a of his new overstock heat pump
outside units ( he is heavily discounting below the the cost of a std
a/c condensing it because it is brand he does't use anymore but will
warranty it ) . He told me that changes are planned for the inside
coil as it is a 2 ton unit too and it is just a mmter of wiring the
unit to work only in A/C mode . Is this correct ? - thanks



Dunno...you dont mention the brand, not that it matters, but I would be

wary
of anyone that claims they can sell you a heat pump unit for below the

cost
of a straight AC unit...period.
If hes a legit contractor, he can move the heat pumps with those that

need
them, and can still sell you a new condensing unit for a discount should

he
be wanting to make you a deal.
Most..NOT ALL, but most heat pumps run wholesale more than double that

of
a
straight AC unit....so...its up to you what you want to do.

Its not a Goodman or Janitrol outside unit is it?


I don't believe Janitrol is made anymore. I was at the Goodman Factory in
Houston and they don't make them there.



The OP states that the guy had overstock, new.
Ok...a 12 year old Janitrol unit that has never been installed is, in the
trade...new. Just making sure..as you never know what the hacks will try to
pass off..




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"Kathy" wrote in message
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I don't believe Janitrol is made anymore. I was at the Goodman Factory in
Houston and they don't make them there.


A rose by any other name?.....................


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A contractor I had been talking to about repalcing my dying outside
2 ton A/C condensing unit with a of his new overstock heat pump
outside units ( he is heavily discounting below the the cost of a std
a/c condensing it because it is brand he does't use anymore but will
warranty it ) . He told me that changes are planned for the inside
coil as it is a 2 ton unit too and it is just a mmter of wiring the
unit to work only in A/C mode . Is this correct ? - thanks



This seems suspicious to me.
If we had a 2 ton heat pump in stock, of any brand, we would hold on to it
and sell it at full price.

I think your HVAC man is giving you a snow job!
I wonder if it is a low quality unit, very old, but unused, or stolen!
Do yourself a favor, get a couple estimates from other contractors and more
information before you proceed.
Greg


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The brand is Thermal Zone new in box. . He no longer uses this brand
now only Goodman, Bryant, Carrier .

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The brand is Thermal Zone new in box. . He no longer uses this brand
now only Goodman, Bryant, Carrier .


ThermalZone...old Pameco private label crap.
Pameco was bought out by United Refrigeration, and guess what happened to
the line?
No wonder hes wanting to give it away...he cant sell it...he cant warranty
it worth a damn...

Smart man would pass, and since hes selling the ICP line..Bryant and
Carrier..might as well get a nice new R410A unit, complete with a new line
set and matched evap coil and know that you have a real warranty with the
equipment.

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"HVAC fella" wrote in message
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You will be ok so long as the Cooling Coil and Heat Pump are matched.
Heat Pump compressors are much more durable than compressors in
Condensing Units., so, it should last a very long time.


This is Turtle.

Like HvacTech2 said , the two compressors are the same now a days. Now your
words are about 30 years to old , for 30+ years ago there was a difference and
heat pump compressors would come with stainless steel rings and valve plates and
regular compressors come with just steel stuff inside. Dave if you retire 30
years ago and is not up on the last 30 years of the business. You need to do
some catching up on the equipment to stay current. Now if you don't have any
equipment to work on. You can always Google stuff and read up on the new stuff
in the HVAC business like charging the system by super heat and give up the beer
can theory or for some of the anti-fawl language people. You can call it the
Cold Soda Pop theory.

Dave you need to do some reading to catch up on the hvac business for your about
30 year behind.

TURTLE




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A friend of mine had a heat pump. He put in a natural gas furnace, and the
HVAC tech was able to wire the outside unit for AC only. Shouldn't be too
dificult.

After all, it's a compressor and a coil like a condensing unit. But with a
lot more gadgets.

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A contractor I had been talking to about repalcing my dying outside
2 ton A/C condensing unit with a of his new overstock heat pump
outside units ( he is heavily discounting below the the cost of a std
a/c condensing it because it is brand he does't use anymore but will
warranty it ) . He told me that changes are planned for the inside
coil as it is a 2 ton unit too and it is just a mmter of wiring the
unit to work only in A/C mode . Is this correct ? - thanks


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"Steve@carolinabreezehvac" wrote
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wrote in message
oups.com...
The brand is Thermal Zone new in box. . He no longer uses this brand
now only Goodman, Bryant, Carrier .


ThermalZone...old Pameco private label crap.
Pameco was bought out by United Refrigeration, and guess what happened to
the line?
No wonder hes wanting to give it away...he cant sell it...he cant warranty
it worth a damn...

Smart man would pass, and since hes selling the ICP line..Bryant and
Carrier..might as well get a nice new R410A unit, complete with a new line
set and matched evap coil and know that you have a real warranty with the
equipment.


Steve,

ICP doesn't consist of Bryant & Carrier.

ICP is Arcoaire, Comfortmaker, Heil, Tempstar, KeepRite, etc...
(although, UT 'United Technologies' owns ICP & Carrier)

Carrier, Bryant and Payne are from the Carrier side of UT.

So, the guy sells UT (Carrier) and Goodman products.

~kjpro~


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"~KJPRO~" KJPRO @ STARBAND.NET wrote in message
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"Steve@carolinabreezehvac" wrote
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wrote in message
oups.com...
The brand is Thermal Zone new in box. . He no longer uses this brand
now only Goodman, Bryant, Carrier .


ThermalZone...old Pameco private label crap.
Pameco was bought out by United Refrigeration, and guess what happened

to
the line?
No wonder hes wanting to give it away...he cant sell it...he cant

warranty
it worth a damn...

Smart man would pass, and since hes selling the ICP line..Bryant and
Carrier..might as well get a nice new R410A unit, complete with a new

line
set and matched evap coil and know that you have a real warranty with

the
equipment.


Steve,

ICP doesn't consist of Bryant & Carrier.

ICP is Arcoaire, Comfortmaker, Heil, Tempstar, KeepRite, etc...
(although, UT 'United Technologies' owns ICP & Carrier)

Carrier, Bryant and Payne are from the Carrier side of UT.

So, the guy sells UT (Carrier) and Goodman products.

~kjpro~



Yup..did it again...I just had corrected someone on that about 3 weeks ago
in here and it slipped again...

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