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formerly known as 'cat arranger' February 16th 05 07:39 PM

caulking around toilet
 
Seemed like an easy thing but getting a bead that looks
decent isn't that easy. Any suggestions?

The tile behind the toilet is coming up and looks like it
has been water damaged. Is there a good way to glue
the linoleum, not tile, down?

Thanks : -)



DanG February 16th 05 08:03 PM

The caulk part is easy. Use DAP or other water based caulk.
Apply caulk to clean, dry surfaces. It is better practice to not
caulk the back side. Use a medium sized bead. If you have too
much it does not hurt, just harder to clean up and wastes the
material, but better too much than too little.. Completely wet a
large soft sponge. While the caulk is fresh before it develops a
film, wipe as much caulk off as you can. Continue wiping,
rinsing, sponging until you have the results you are after. Make
sure the caulk is completely removed from the floor and the shiny
part of the vitreous leaving only the caulk bead, any film left
will look tacky. Same method for setting self rimming sinks and
similar items. This allows water out to warn you of a failed
wax ring.

For the sheet flooring, spray adhesive is fast and easy. Make
sure to remove overspray with a touch of mineral spirits (easy
while it is fresh). I assume you are talking about a limited
area.

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"formerly known as 'cat arranger'"
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Seemed like an easy thing but getting a bead that looks
decent isn't that easy. Any suggestions?

The tile behind the toilet is coming up and looks like it
has been water damaged. Is there a good way to glue
the linoleum, not tile, down?

Thanks : -)





Buck Turgidson February 16th 05 08:19 PM

Seemed like an easy thing but getting a bead that looks
decent isn't that easy. Any suggestions?

The tile behind the toilet is coming up and looks like it
has been water damaged. Is there a good way to glue
the linoleum, not tile, down?


Some plumbers will tell you to use unsanded, white grout, instead of caulk,
around a toilet. The caulk can pull the flooring up if you have to remove
the toilet. Grout won't do that.




Matt February 16th 05 08:28 PM

If you caulk around it, there wont be any place for the pee to go.


Roger T. February 17th 05 05:23 AM


Seemed like an easy thing but getting a bead that looks
decent isn't that easy. Any suggestions?

The tile behind the toilet is coming up and looks like it
has been water damaged. Is there a good way to glue
the linoleum, not tile, down?


I use white silicone caulk vs painters' caulk, as it is waterproof yet
flexible, and a very effective adhesive. Leave the back side of the base of
the toilet open. That way, if there is a seal leak, you will find it, rather
than have the leakage seep down through the floor.



William W. Plummer February 17th 05 01:48 PM

Roger T. wrote:

Seemed like an easy thing but getting a bead that looks
decent isn't that easy. Any suggestions?

The tile behind the toilet is coming up and looks like it
has been water damaged. Is there a good way to glue
the linoleum, not tile, down?



I use white silicone caulk vs painters' caulk, as it is waterproof yet
flexible, and a very effective adhesive. Leave the back side of the base of
the toilet open. That way, if there is a seal leak, you will find it, rather
than have the leakage seep down through the floor.


The wax ring is the seal that prevents leakage. Grout or plaster of
paris provides rock-solid support for the toilet at its edge on the
floor. Caulk has no part of it.

jeffc February 18th 05 03:09 AM


"Buck Turgidson" wrote in message
...
Seemed like an easy thing but getting a bead that looks
decent isn't that easy. Any suggestions?

The tile behind the toilet is coming up and looks like it
has been water damaged. Is there a good way to glue
the linoleum, not tile, down?


Some plumbers will tell you to use unsanded, white grout, instead of

caulk,
around a toilet. The caulk can pull the flooring up if you have to remove
the toilet. Grout won't do that.


Grout also isn't flexible, and will surely crack.



jeffc February 18th 05 03:11 AM


"William W. Plummer" wrote in message
...

The wax ring is the seal that prevents leakage. Grout or plaster of
paris provides rock-solid support for the toilet at its edge on the
floor. Caulk has no part of it.


The toilet is not meant to be supported by grout. It is meant to be
supported by the center, and by the contact of the toilet itself to the
floor, or shims if necessary.



jeffc February 18th 05 03:12 AM


"Roger T." wrote in message
...

That way, if there is a seal leak, you will find it, rather
than have the leakage seep down through the floor.


On the other hand, sealing all the way around prevents any water (say from
the shower, toilet overflow, whatever) from getting IN. If your wax seal is
good, you should never have a leak inside your toilet. The same can't be
said for your bathroom floor in general.




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