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Blake Patterson January 31st 05 12:58 PM

Finish vs. wax on pine furniture
 
I took everyone's advice from a previous thread and got the right blade
for my skil saw and managed to put together this small, angled monitor
hutch for a computer setup here at the house, made out of pine. Thanks
to all.

The desk upon which it sits is a very white wood (birch, I believe - or
beech - not 100% sure) - slightly whiter than the pine. I
intend/intended to apply poly finish to the little hutch (no stain) and
put it to use, but it occurrs to me that the stain will "yellow" the
wood a bit such that it matches the desk less. Currently, unfinished,
it's a pretty close match.

Would using bowling alley wax _instead_ of finish result in a finished
product that's closer in color to the white wood of the desk? What are
the negatives of using b.a. wax insteead of finish? Typically,
anything I've built and finished, I've applied (after the finish) a
nice layer of b.a. wax to complete the job, per habit of my father with
whome I was introduced to woodworking.

Thanks.



bp


m Ransley January 31st 05 01:30 PM

Wax darkens alot Acrylic finishes do not.


Edwin Pawlowski January 31st 05 02:07 PM


"Blake Patterson" wrote in message


Would using bowling alley wax _instead_ of finish result in a finished
product that's closer in color to the white wood of the desk? What are
the negatives of using b.a. wax insteead of finish? Typically,
anything I've built and finished, I've applied (after the finish) a
nice layer of b.a. wax to complete the job, per habit of my father with
whome I was introduced to woodworking.


Use a water based polyurethane and it won't darken like the oil based. I'm
not sure what the wax will do, but I think you will still get some
darkening.



Blake Patterson January 31st 05 04:48 PM

Great! Will grab some acrylic poly. It comes in both spray and can
form - which will give me a smoother finish? This is just a little
riser hutch to set on my desk to raise my computer monitor - so I can
manipulate it easily.

Tnx in advance.



bp


m Ransley January 31st 05 05:15 PM

Smoothness of finish will depent on how many coats you put on and your
sanding between coats, finish with spray coat but build and sand with
brush coats .


Matt January 31st 05 05:53 PM

When I was a kid, there was this guy, named Don Ray, I think. And his
commercials for SOLID PINE FURNITURE WITH GENUINE HERCULON FABRIC!
would come on starting at about 10 pm until 5 am. Thing was, his
commercials were always 10 times louder than everybody elses' (Even
Boots Williams and his damn Ford trucks). I don't know what 'Herculon'
is (I suspect it's probably something like 'corinthian' leather) - but
I do know Don went out of business. I guess the market for pine
furniture with HERCULON! dried up or something.


Blake Patterson January 31st 05 06:49 PM

Sanding between acrylic poly coats will not cloud it? I was picturing
2-3 coats. What grit sandpaper would you recommend for this sanding?
I assume last coat is not sanded?

If you were going to only use spray or only use brush-on acrylic poly -
which would you use?

Tnx




bp


Edwin Pawlowski January 31st 05 07:08 PM


"Blake Patterson" wrote in message
ups.com...
Sanding between acrylic poly coats will not cloud it? I was picturing
2-3 coats. What grit sandpaper would you recommend for this sanding?
I assume last coat is not sanded?

If you were going to only use spray or only use brush-on acrylic poly -
which would you use?


It will look clouded, but the next coat clears it up. I use 220 grit between
coats, usually 3 coats total. The last one can be steel wooled with XXXX
grade if you want.



m Ransley January 31st 05 08:26 PM

Use Gloss for the first coats, what they put in to make satin makes
finishes not as clear. You need to build coats, the first 2 dont realy
seal the grain to be sanded much, they absorb. It depends on how nice
you want it ypu can put on 7 coats. if you do more than 3 use 320 or
400grit. If you want gloss use it for final coat to. There are alot of
ways to finish wood. Read the label, go to a real Paint store.


Anthony Diodati January 31st 05 08:46 PM


"Blake Patterson" wrote in message
oups.com...
Great! Will grab some acrylic poly. It comes in both spray and can
form - which will give me a smoother finish? This is just a little
riser hutch to set on my desk to raise my computer monitor - so I can
manipulate it easily.

Wax alone is not a good finish, and will do little or nothing to protect the
wood from picking up moisture.
Tony


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