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Robert11 January 24th 05 06:07 PM

Styrofoam Between Present T1-11 Siding & New Vinyl Siding: Worth It ?
 
Hello:

Live in New England.

If I re-do my house with vinyl siding, which would go directly over the
present T1-11 wood siding which is in poor shape, does it make sense
to have installed styrofoam (or other) insulation between the T1-11 and
the vinyl ?

a. Would the added insulation R value (no idea what it would be) justify
the added installation cost ?

b. Does it make for a "better" or smoother job ?

c. Anything to be particularly aware of in work like this ?

Thanks,
Bob



Buck Turgidson January 24th 05 06:53 PM

Live in New England.

If I re-do my house with vinyl siding, which would go directly over the
present T1-11 wood siding which is in poor shape, does it make sense
to have installed styrofoam (or other) insulation between the T1-11 and
the vinyl ?

a. Would the added insulation R value (no idea what it would be) justify
the added installation cost ?

b. Does it make for a "better" or smoother job ?

c. Anything to be particularly aware of in work like this ?

Most vinyl installers use a styrofoam fan-fold underlayment as a standard
practice over sheathing. It might be usable over T1-11, since it is
sheathing.

The R-values is not great, but you can specify thick stuff that conforms to
the contour of the siding for more R-value.

Here is an idea of what I am talking about:

http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/30711



willshak January 24th 05 07:08 PM

On 1/24/2005 1:07 PM US(ET), Robert11 took fingers to keys, and typed
the following:

Hello:

Live in New England.

If I re-do my house with vinyl siding, which would go directly over the
present T1-11 wood siding which is in poor shape, does it make sense
to have installed styrofoam (or other) insulation between the T1-11 and
the vinyl ?



It's another level of heat and sound insulation, and offers some
waterproofing. I had 3/8" foam, faced both sides with aluminum foil,
installed under my vinyl siding.

a. Would the added insulation R value (no idea what it would be) justify
the added installation cost ?



I don't remember what the added cost was, but it was not another stage
of construction. The installer tacked up the foam as he was installing
the siding. I don't know what the R value of my foam was, but every bit
counts up here in the NE.

b. Does it make for a "better" or smoother job ?



Since vinyl siding is 'hung' rather than nailed solidly to the wall,
smoother does not enter the picture.

c. Anything to be particularly aware of in work like this ?



When you get estimates, get them with and without the foam. If the
contractor doesn't mention foam in his contract, ask him about it as if
an afterthought. It may be only a few hundred $ difference.
My foam was folded into a package that was about 2' x 3' and when it was
unfolded it was about 6' or 8' wide by 3' high (three or four folded
panels). It took about 10 seconds or less to tack up the 6' or 8' panel,
except those that had to be cut.

Thanks,
Bob






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Paul B. January 24th 05 10:08 PM

Robert11 wrote:
Hello:

Live in New England.

If I re-do my house with vinyl siding, which would go directly
over the present T1-11 wood siding which is in poor shape,
does it make sense to have installed styrofoam (or other)
insulation between the T1-11 and the vinyl ?

a. Would the added insulation R value (no idea what it would
be) justify the added installation cost ?

b. Does it make for a "better" or smoother job ?

c. Anything to be particularly aware of in work like this ?

Thanks, Bob


Vapor barriers are better on the inside of the wall, but this
rule seems to be broken very often these days. If I had a choice
I at least would use perforated foam, to let some of the moisture
out.


Paul

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twfsa January 24th 05 11:50 PM

Go with the strofoam you can only go so thick as the siding will stick out
beyond the windows frames .

The second go around on my install I had the strofoam installed day and
night difference when the wind blows and rattles the siding.

My next install will be concrete siding.

Tom


"Robert11" wrote in message
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Hello:

Live in New England.

If I re-do my house with vinyl siding, which would go directly over the
present T1-11 wood siding which is in poor shape, does it make sense
to have installed styrofoam (or other) insulation between the T1-11 and
the vinyl ?

a. Would the added insulation R value (no idea what it would be) justify
the added installation cost ?

b. Does it make for a "better" or smoother job ?

c. Anything to be particularly aware of in work like this ?

Thanks,
Bob




Pat January 25th 05 12:03 AM


m Ransley January 25th 05 12:19 AM

It depends on what foam board they use. White is R 3.5 inch , red-blue
is 5.5 inch , Foil coated is R 7.2 inch . Get the foil coated R 7.2 inch


m Ransley January 25th 05 12:42 AM

Patylargo, your son instals it ? A great bs endorsement



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