Hi,

We're going back & forth on our plans to replace the sink with a Stainless
vs Moenstone or something similar. The new counter will be laminate.

I'm leaning towards high grade stainless steel while my wife is leaning
towards composite or similar (color basically driving the discussion).

I'm looking at Kohler - any one have a recent replacement/upgrade experience
to share? Standard size 33x22 - two basin of equal size with deep wells.

Any feedback would be welcomed.

Thanks

Make sure what ever sink you install, that a dish basket will fit in one
side, I installed a s/s/ and the dish rack will not fit down into the sink.

Tom


"Davma" wrote in message
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Hi,

We're going back & forth on our plans to replace the sink with a Stainless
vs Moenstone or something similar. The new counter will be laminate.

I'm leaning towards high grade stainless steel while my wife is leaning
towards composite or similar (color basically driving the discussion).

I'm looking at Kohler - any one have a recent replacement/upgrade
experience to share? Standard size 33x22 - two basin of equal size with
deep wells.

Any feedback would be welcomed.

Thanks

I personally don't like double sinks especially not 50/50 ones each sink is
just too small and people wind up putting food down the non-disposal one.
I have a Blanco stone undermount sink and I really like it it is very quiet
no scratches and it is large and deep . I had Stainless steel before and it
was noisier and hard to keep really looking clean. I would go to one of the
high end big box stores Expo or Great indoors and look at the composite
sinks either in a 80/20 or just one big one myself

Wayne
"Davma" wrote in message
...
Hi,

We're going back & forth on our plans to replace the sink with a Stainless
vs Moenstone or something similar. The new counter will be laminate.

I'm leaning towards high grade stainless steel while my wife is leaning
towards composite or similar (color basically driving the discussion).

I'm looking at Kohler - any one have a recent replacement/upgrade
experience to share? Standard size 33x22 - two basin of equal size with
deep wells.

Any feedback would be welcomed.

Thanks

I second the opinion about not having equal size bowls. I went thru
about 2 weeks of sink hell trying to decide what to buy. I settled on
the Kohler Marsala, which is a cast iron/enamel sink with two bowls,
split about 70/30 or so. That gives you one bowl large enough for
pans, the other one still quite big and usable for collanders, etc. I
liked the idea of 2 bowls so you can have one clean and ready for
anything, while you use the other one for the main. IMO, the most
useless sinks are the ones that have one large bowl and then a smaller
disposal well. That's what I had and hated it, the disposal well is
just too small for any real use. And mine was installed with the
disposal on the main bowl anyway, which is where I like it. In fact, I
never knew until last week, that the small narrow bowl is really for
the disposal. I'd go with a 70/30 one or else one large bowl as a
second choice.

I like the Marsala also because it's a 2 hole model, with one hole
where the bowl divider is, the other in the right hand corner. That
leaves the area between the holes available so the basin on that side
can go back as far as the other larger basin, which has no faucet holes
at all. It gives you about another 2 inchs of fore/aft room. I have
the instant hot water dispenser in the corner, single hole faucet in
center. I made a mock up and compared this sink to others, like the
exec chef which is very similar, but doesn't have the extra 2 inchs.
IMO, it makes a big difference. Without the extra room, the smaller
bowl is still usable, but you'll always be conscious of the instant
water faucet being there as you go to put say, a collander, in it.
With the extra 2 inchs, it seems wide open.

As to material, it's basicly what u like and want to spend. Stainless
looks OK, without much work. If you really like it to shine, then it
does take more work. It also scratches fairly easy. It's resistant to
stains, but makes more noise with a disposal. Stone doesn't have a
shine and scratches/stains easily, but either of these can be remedied,
by, worst case, sanding it, as it's solid material. I chose Kohler
cast iron because I liked the look of the finish. It's advantages are
it doesn't stain easily, easy to keep clean, lasts a long time. Main
disadvantage is it can chip if you drop something hard on it and that's
hard to fix. It's also very heavy, if that's a factor. I looked at
Amer Std Americast, which is their steel/composite/enamel product.
It's about half the weight, but the finish just doesn't look like the
rich, quality of Kohler cast iron. If you go with stainless, people
I've talked to like Franke a lot.

"Davma" wrote in message
...
Hi,

We're going back & forth on our plans to replace the sink with a Stainless
vs Moenstone or something similar. The new counter will be laminate.

I'm leaning towards high grade stainless steel while my wife is leaning
towards composite or similar (color basically driving the discussion).

I'm looking at Kohler - any one have a recent replacement/upgrade
experience
to share? Standard size 33x22 - two basin of equal size with deep wells.

Any feedback would be welcomed.

Thanks


I have never had a SS sink fail. A couple that I installed 25 years ago are
still going strong. They were the cheapest that I could buy at that time.

My sister-in-law's composite sink looks like crap after about 9 years of
normal use. It is covered with small scrathes and stains. As a matter of
fact I have never seen a composite sink that is used on a regular basis look
good after a few years.

Personally I would avoid the mirror like finish as I would guess it to be
difficult to keep it looking that way. The less shiny sinks are easier to
keep looking like new for a long time. Cost is not the only indication of
quality. Consider the gauge of the metal and the amount of sound -deadening
material on the bottom of the sink. The deeper the bowls the higher the
cost.

BUT, it is your wife you have to convince.

Good luck,

Colbyt

On 1/23/2005 8:15 AM US(ET), Davma took fingers to keys, and typed the
following:

Hi,

We're going back & forth on our plans to replace the sink with a Stainless
vs Moenstone or something similar. The new counter will be laminate.

I'm leaning towards high grade stainless steel while my wife is leaning
towards composite or similar (color basically driving the discussion).

I'm looking at Kohler - any one have a recent replacement/upgrade experience
to share? Standard size 33x22 - two basin of equal size with deep wells.

Any feedback would be welcomed.

Thanks

Everyone will give you a different opinion on what is best for you,
depending upon what they have in their house, or what they wish they had
if they had the money.
So here is my opinion. I have a large deep single tub stainless steel
sink that is about 15 years old now. I have had no problems with it and
it is not scratched or dented all to **** either.
Be sure that before you buy a SS sink that you check the thickness of
the SS. If there is a model on display, press down on the bottom of the
sink and see if it flexes with moderate hand pressure. If it does, it's
too thin. The sink I chose had the thicker SS and also the outside of
the tub is undercoated with some kind of white sprayed on material that
deadens the sound and provides hot and cold insulation. The make of the
sink that I have is Elkay.

--
Bill

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:15:08 GMT, "Davma" wrote:

Hi,

We're going back & forth on our plans to replace the sink with a Stainless
vs Moenstone or something similar. The new counter will be laminate.

I'm leaning towards high grade stainless steel while my wife is leaning
towards composite or similar (color basically driving the discussion).

I'm looking at Kohler - any one have a recent replacement/upgrade experience
to share? Standard size 33x22 - two basin of equal size with deep wells.

Any feedback would be welcomed.

Thanks


I know that there are various thickness in stainless steel sinks and
various depths. Deep wells are good--a shallow sink splashes water
more. I prefer stainless steel over composite--looks good, easy care,
and low cost with even the high-grade SS.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:15:08 GMT, "Davma" wrote:

Hi,

We're going back & forth on our plans to replace the sink with a Stainless
vs Moenstone or something similar. The new counter will be laminate.

I'm leaning towards high grade stainless steel while my wife is leaning
towards composite or similar (color basically driving the discussion).

I'm looking at Kohler - any one have a recent replacement/upgrade experience
to share? Standard size 33x22 - two basin of equal size with deep wells.

Any feedback would be welcomed.

Thanks


I like my 20 yr old stainless steel deep double sink, both of equal
size.

We have a Kohler double bowl SS sink. This was on the higher price
end, but not top of the line. The more expensive sinks are usually
thicker gauge and have a higher shine because of higher nickel
content. Make sure you get a sink with sound deadening material on
the outside. Even then the sink generally sound more like a drumhead.

The only problem we have had was my wife spilled jewelry cleaner on
the sink and left it for awhile. It left a stain on the sink. Also
the sink shows water spots easily.

We have had little trouble with the fact that both bowls are the same
size and depth. If you have a lot of visitors that help you in the
kitchen or small children, then it could be a problem of confusing
which one is connected to the disposal.

I would also agree to make sure the bowls are deep.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:33:40 -0600, PJX wrote:

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:15:08 GMT, "Davma" wrote:

Hi,

We're going back & forth on our plans to replace the sink with a Stainless
vs Moenstone or something similar. The new counter will be laminate.

I'm leaning towards high grade stainless steel while my wife is leaning
towards composite or similar (color basically driving the discussion).

I'm looking at Kohler - any one have a recent replacement/upgrade experience
to share? Standard size 33x22 - two basin of equal size with deep wells.

Any feedback would be welcomed.

Thanks


I like my 20 yr old stainless steel deep double sink, both of equal
size.


Gary Dyrkacz

Radio Control Aircraft/Paintball Physics/Paintball for 40+
http://home.attbi.com/~dyrgcmn/

"Colbyt" wrote in message
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"Davma" wrote in message
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Hi,

We're going back & forth on our plans to replace the sink with a
Stainless
vs Moenstone or something similar. The new counter will be laminate.

I'm leaning towards high grade stainless steel while my wife is leaning
towards composite or similar (color basically driving the discussion).

I'm looking at Kohler - any one have a recent replacement/upgrade
experience
to share? Standard size 33x22 - two basin of equal size with deep
wells.

Any feedback would be welcomed.

Thanks


I have never had a SS sink fail. A couple that I installed 25 years ago
are
still going strong. They were the cheapest that I could buy at that time.

My sister-in-law's composite sink looks like crap after about 9 years of
normal use. It is covered with small scrathes and stains. As a matter of
fact I have never seen a composite sink that is used on a regular basis
look
good after a few years.

my mom wanted a composite sink so it will look good, and she's afraid to
just use it. she lines it with these rubber mats on the bottom and sides so
it wont scratch, spends all this time being careful etc... i mean its just
crazy, and it defeats the purpose of having a nice looking sink in the first
place. those rubber mats look pretty stupid. and after all that, along
with careful effort, its scratched and stained anyway....


if you plan to USE the sink, get a stainless sink. years later you can just
take sponge and some ajax and it will look almost the same as the day you
bought it. as was said, i think even a cheap SS sink is good enough. just
make sure its real stainless steel.

randy

Thanks all for your input. Appreciating it's all opinion, we have a 50/50
sink today and love it.

If we go stainless it will be 18 gauge for sure. If we go cast iron or
similar if gives the color. Still looking at all options at this point but
I'm always interested in people's experiences.

Dave

"Davma" wrote in message
...
Hi,

We're going back & forth on our plans to replace the sink with a Stainless
vs Moenstone or something similar. The new counter will be laminate.

I'm leaning towards high grade stainless steel while my wife is leaning
towards composite or similar (color basically driving the discussion).

I'm looking at Kohler - any one have a recent replacement/upgrade
experience to share? Standard size 33x22 - two basin of equal size with
deep wells.

Any feedback would be welcomed.

Thanks

What is the difference between a 22 gauge sink and a 18 gauge sink,
besides the metal thickness?

Davma wrote:
Thanks all for your input. Appreciating it's all opinion, we have a 50/50
sink today and love it.

If we go stainless it will be 18 gauge for sure. If we go cast iron or
similar if gives the color. Still looking at all options at this point but
I'm always interested in people's experiences.

Dave

"Davma" wrote in message
...

Hi,

We're going back & forth on our plans to replace the sink with a Stainless
vs Moenstone or something similar. The new counter will be laminate.

I'm leaning towards high grade stainless steel while my wife is leaning
towards composite or similar (color basically driving the discussion).

I'm looking at Kohler - any one have a recent replacement/upgrade
experience to share? Standard size 33x22 - two basin of equal size with
deep wells.

Any feedback would be welcomed.

Thanks

"Usenet Poster" wrote in message
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What is the difference between a 22 gauge sink and a 18 gauge sink,
besides the metal thickness?

sound. flexing.

Davma wrote:
Thanks all for your input. Appreciating it's all opinion, we have a
50/50 sink today and love it.

If we go stainless it will be 18 gauge for sure. If we go cast iron or
similar if gives the color. Still looking at all options at this point
but I'm always interested in people's experiences.

Dave

"Davma" wrote in message
...

Hi,

We're going back & forth on our plans to replace the sink with a
Stainless vs Moenstone or something similar. The new counter will be
laminate.

I'm leaning towards high grade stainless steel while my wife is leaning
towards composite or similar (color basically driving the discussion).

I'm looking at Kohler - any one have a recent replacement/upgrade
experience to share? Standard size 33x22 - two basin of equal size with
deep wells.

Any feedback would be welcomed.

Thanks