Does anyone have any sure-fire advice on this? Do those electronic spikes
work?

"g" wrote in :

Does anyone have any sure-fire advice on this?

Poison or traps.

Do those electronic spikes work?

No

"g" wrote in message ...
Does anyone have any sure-fire advice on this? Do those electronic spikes
work?

I find traps hard to set in the right place, and my gophers tend to stuff it
full of dirt before they get into the trigger plate, even after cleaning
trap and rubbing with herbs to mask the human scent. Poison works pretty
well - I use phosphide granules. The wayfarin and green wheat kernel types
seem less attractive to gophers, in my area..
I locate tunnels by poking ground with a 3/4 inch rebar. When the soil
"gives", I drop a tablespoonfull down the hole and cover with a stone. I do
this in a dozen or more locations. Usually works. These baits are extremely
toxic to birds and pets, so keep this in mind. For moles, I use multiple
smoke bombs at the first signs of digging, but this approach works rarely
with gophers.

Subject: Getting Rid of Gophers
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Does anyone have any sure-fire advice on this? Do those electronic spikes
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http://www.bushwood.net/shack/cadshk18.wav

Carl: "Licensed to kill gophers by the government of the United Nations. Man,
free to kill gophers at will. To kill, you must know your enemy, and in this
case my enemy is a varmint, and a varmint will never quit, ever. They're like
the Viet Cong, Varmint Cong."




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"g" wrote in message ...
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I would just hire Bill Murray. He did a pretty good job in Caddyshack.......

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Subject: Getting Rid of Gophers
Newsgroup: alt.home.repair
= g = wrote:

Does anyone have any sure-fire advice on this? Do those electronic spikes
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http://www.bushwood.net/shack/cadshk18.wav

Carl: "Licensed to kill gophers by the government of the United Nations.
Man,
free to kill gophers at will. To kill, you must know your enemy, and in
this
case my enemy is a varmint, and a varmint will never quit, ever. They're
like
the Viet Cong, Varmint Cong."


OOOPS!

Didn't see this one before I posted.

(Someone's mind is on the same road as mine....)

;-]

"g" wrote in message ...
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work?

Lots of cayenne or hotter chilli pepper down the holes

Roger wrote:

"g" wrote in message ...
Does anyone have any sure-fire advice on this? Do those electronic spikes
work?

I find traps hard to set in the right place, and my gophers tend to stuff it
full of dirt before they get into the trigger plate, even after cleaning
trap and rubbing with herbs to mask the human scent. Poison works pretty
well - I use phosphide granules. The wayfarin and green wheat kernel types
seem less attractive to gophers, in my area..
I locate tunnels by poking ground with a 3/4 inch rebar. When the soil
"gives", I drop a tablespoonfull down the hole and cover with a stone. I do
this in a dozen or more locations. Usually works. These baits are extremely
toxic to birds and pets, so keep this in mind. For moles, I use multiple
smoke bombs at the first signs of digging, but this approach works rarely
with gophers.

Concur w/ pocket gophers...traps are a pita at best...

For around the house rather than in the fields, baiting at the exit hole
is most effective home-owner solution. After a little practice you will
find you can see which side of the mound they packed the plug in and hit
it w/ a hand trowel almost every time, first time. Carefully remove the
plug, put some bait as far down the tunnel as you can get it (don't
touch anything w/ your bare hands to leave scent) and then carefully
re-plug the hole w/o knocking the tunnel full of dirt.

I find the laced peanuts seem to attract them here...warfarin baits for
mice/rats don't.

Gophers eat grubs. Grubs can be best killed by Milky Spores a 5 year
treatment product, and Nematodes [ a double punch] No grubs no moles.
Of fight them without satisfaction with Gopher Bombs , stakes, traps,
etc. Remove the food and they leave.

"m Ransley" wrote in message
...
Gophers eat grubs. Grubs can be best killed by Milky Spores a 5 year
treatment product, and Nematodes [ a double punch] No grubs no moles.
Of fight them without satisfaction with Gopher Bombs , stakes, traps,
etc. Remove the food and they leave.

Gophers are vegetarians and eat plants and plant roots, not grubs.. Killing
the grubs does nothing but poison your soil and kill beneficial things as
well like worms.. Moles are carniverous and eat insects, salamanders, grubs,
but in my area, mostly earthworms.

"Roger" wrote in message
...

"m Ransley" wrote in message
...
Gophers eat grubs. Grubs can be best killed by Milky Spores a 5 year
treatment product, and Nematodes [ a double punch] No grubs no moles.
Of fight them without satisfaction with Gopher Bombs , stakes, traps,
etc. Remove the food and they leave.

Gophers are vegetarians and eat plants and plant roots, not grubs..
Killing
the grubs does nothing but poison your soil and kill beneficial things as
well like worms.. Moles are carniverous and eat insects, salamanders,
grubs,
but in my area, mostly earthworms.



In a few areas 'gophers' means moles shortened from the slang of 'pocket
gophers' for moles. In my area, gopher means gopher and mole means mole. If
folks in areas that call moles gophers ever dropped a hay wagon wheel in a
gopher hole around here they'd change that term real quick and they wouldn't
be talking about a teaspoon of poison to dump in it!

"Martik" wrote in message
news:JgdId.39745$06.3557@clgrps12...

"g" wrote in message ...
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I have read in Mother Earth news or another mag like it that the next time
you go to the barber tell him you want your hair. You put it in their holes
every couple of feet and they go crazy, they hate it and will leave the
entire area for some reason. I can't remember if it was for moles or
gophers. I don't even know if it really works since I never had either
problem. They stated however that it was a 100% solution.

Rich

ioc wrote:
.....
In a few areas 'gophers' means moles shortened from the slang of 'pocket
gophers' for moles. ...

??? slang for "pocket gopher" -- "mole" ???

I don't think it's slang, just total ignorance of the
difference--anything that burrows underground is a "mole", more likely.

Doesn't take much in an indivdual burrow, you just have to be persistent
in working on the new mounds where they're currently working. A yard
can be cleaned up in fairly good time. An infested field is another
story....they're even popping up in the middle of the county roads here,
now. That takes a pretty bit of digging even in the sandy ground we
have.

geoman wrote:

"Martik" wrote in message
news:JgdId.39745$06.3557@clgrps12...

"g" wrote in message ...
Does anyone have any sure-fire advice on this? Do those electronic spikes
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I have read in Mother Earth news or another mag like it that the next time
you go to the barber tell him you want your hair. You put it in their holes
every couple of feet and they go crazy, they hate it and will leave the
entire area for some reason. I can't remember if it was for moles or
gophers. I don't even know if it really works since I never had either
problem. They stated however that it was a 100% solution.


There's nothing that's a 100% solution....

I have tried it, it doesn't work for diddly unless the "totally leaving
the area" encompasses a circle of about 20 feet from the previous mound
the night before.

Placing it in stocking nets and hanging on particular specimens of
interest does seem to deter the deer for a few days, however...

Juicy fruit in a runway

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:59:16 -0800, "g" wrote:

Does anyone have any sure-fire advice on this? Do those electronic spikes
work?

"g" wrote in message ...
Does anyone have any sure-fire advice on this? Do those electronic spikes
work?



I have heard that putting up a barn owl house will attract barn owls who
will grub those pesky varmints. Here is a link for one .....
http://www.groworganic.com/a/item_PB...nOwlHouse.html
Good luck getting rid of the "gopher cong" ....Ross

Ross Mac wrote:

"g" wrote in message ...
Does anyone have any sure-fire advice on this? Do those electronic spikes
work?



I have heard that putting up a barn owl house will attract barn owls who
will grub those pesky varmints. Here is a link for one .....
http://www.groworganic.com/a/item_PB...nOwlHouse.html
Good luck getting rid of the "gopher cong" ....Ross

We've had both barn and great horned owls for years...while they do prey
on gophers as the opportunity affords itself, I can assure you they
aren't sufficient in of themselves to eliminate them (or even keep them
in limited numbers)...

At last count I know of roughly 3 or 4 pairs of barn owls and a pair of
great horned (they raised four young last year, but will not tolerate
them in the near area so the young have to find their own range once the
next season approaches which is about now...they're starting to "talk"
to each other at night, now).

g wrote:

Does anyone have any sure-fire advice on this? Do those electronic spikes
work?

If you live in the right area and its safe to do so, just sit outside
quietly in a chair with a 12 gauge pump across your lap and plenty of
#8 skeet loads - should be fun.
Eric

--
I am Locutus of Borg
Your life as it has been is over
From this moment on you will service... us

"Eric" wrote in message
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g wrote:

Does anyone have any sure-fire advice on this? Do those electronic spikes
work?

If you live in the right area and its safe to do so, just sit outside
quietly in a chair with a 12 gauge pump across your lap and plenty of
#8 skeet loads - should be fun.
Eric

--
I am Locutus of Borg
Your life as it has been is over
From this moment on you will service... us



There ya go Eric....I met an engineer once that said he didn't want to live
anywhere that he couldn't shoot his shotgun from the porch or **** in the
yard....I know...a bit rude...but it was funny over lunch....enjoyed your
post...Ross

Hire Bill Murray. Make a movie.

More seriously, did you try a web search? www.google.com is your best
friend.

--

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com


"g" wrote in message ...
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"Duane Bozarth" wrote in message
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Ross Mac wrote:

"g" wrote in message ...
Does anyone have any sure-fire advice on this? Do those electronic
spikes
work?



I have heard that putting up a barn owl house will attract barn owls who
will grub those pesky varmints. Here is a link for one .....
http://www.groworganic.com/a/item_PB...nOwlHouse.html
Good luck getting rid of the "gopher cong" ....Ross

We've had both barn and great horned owls for years...while they do prey
on gophers as the opportunity affords itself, I can assure you they
aren't sufficient in of themselves to eliminate them (or even keep them
in limited numbers)...

At last count I know of roughly 3 or 4 pairs of barn owls and a pair of
great horned (they raised four young last year, but will not tolerate
them in the near area so the young have to find their own range once the
next season approaches which is about now...they're starting to "talk"
to each other at night, now).

Wow, you two must live in remote areas. I haven't seen a real live owl for
over 40 years in our area! Northern Ohio! Can hardly remember what they
look like :-((

geoman wrote:

"Duane Bozarth" wrote in message
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Ross Mac wrote:

"g" wrote in message ...
Does anyone have any sure-fire advice on this? Do those electronic
spikes
work?



I have heard that putting up a barn owl house will attract barn owls who
will grub those pesky varmints. Here is a link for one .....
http://www.groworganic.com/a/item_PB...nOwlHouse.html
Good luck getting rid of the "gopher cong" ....Ross

We've had both barn and great horned owls for years...while they do prey
on gophers as the opportunity affords itself, I can assure you they
aren't sufficient in of themselves to eliminate them (or even keep them
in limited numbers)...

At last count I know of roughly 3 or 4 pairs of barn owls and a pair of
great horned (they raised four young last year, but will not tolerate
them in the near area so the young have to find their own range once the
next season approaches which is about now...they're starting to "talk"
to each other at night, now).

Wow, you two must live in remote areas. I haven't seen a real live owl for
over 40 years in our area! Northern Ohio! Can hardly remember what they
look like :-((

Rural, but not what I would call "remote"...we're 10 mi to town w/
nearest neighbors of one place at 1/2 mi, next at 1 mi +. The horned
owls took up permanent residence back in the late 60s or so when the
cedar windbreak reached sufficient height and density they liked it for
day time roost. The barn owls were off and on for as long as I can
recall (back to the early 50s, and probably much earlier) although they
have been permanent now for roughly the same time which corresponds to
when we quit using their favorite nesting site, the old grain elevator
for active grain storage.

I put the rough estimate on them as they are much more reclusive than
the horned owls and I haven't climbed to the upper levels of the
elevator for quite some time now...last time I did there were two pairs
of adults and five chicks I could count for sure...

Interesting that I've been assured by many that the two species will not
share range, but that's news to these...

We also have the small burrowing owls that use abandoned prairie dog
holes, etc., but they're not real common and not seen very often. I
actually suspect they're much more likely to be predators for the moles
and gophers than either of the horned or barn owls. The one thing the
horned owls keep down pretty effectively, actually, are ths skunks.

"geoman" wrote in message
...

"Duane Bozarth" wrote in message
...
Ross Mac wrote:

"g" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have any sure-fire advice on this? Do those electronic
spikes
work?



I have heard that putting up a barn owl house will attract barn owls who
will grub those pesky varmints. Here is a link for one .....
http://www.groworganic.com/a/item_PB...nOwlHouse.html
Good luck getting rid of the "gopher cong" ....Ross

We've had both barn and great horned owls for years...while they do prey
on gophers as the opportunity affords itself, I can assure you they
aren't sufficient in of themselves to eliminate them (or even keep them
in limited numbers)...

At last count I know of roughly 3 or 4 pairs of barn owls and a pair of
great horned (they raised four young last year, but will not tolerate
them in the near area so the young have to find their own range once the
next season approaches which is about now...they're starting to "talk"
to each other at night, now).

Wow, you two must live in remote areas. I haven't seen a real live owl for
over 40 years in our area! Northern Ohio! Can hardly remember what they
look like :-((


Interesting you should mention that....I remember seeing the darn things
sitting on the fence in front of a college campus in San Jose, CA....That
place must have a million people or so. But I did live in a remote area in
the Santa Cruz mountains about 40 miles from SJ,CA (now a Central Florida
resident)....and you could hear the owls at night. Once in awhile we would
get a mole or gopher but nature took it's course and the owls had
dinner!.....take care, Ross

Ross Mac wrote:
....
Interesting you should mention that....I remember seeing the darn things
sitting on the fence in front of a college campus in San Jose, CA....That
place must have a million people or so. But I did live in a remote area in
the Santa Cruz mountains about 40 miles from SJ,CA (now a Central Florida
resident)....and you could hear the owls at night. Once in awhile we would
get a mole or gopher but nature took it's course and the owls had
dinner!.....take care, Ross

Don't know what their favorite target will be there, but if there are
rabbits, mice, skunks, and other nocturnal above ground critters,
they're far more likely to take them than moles or gophers. Not that
they won't if given the opportunity, but the stay above ground so
little, the flying-hunting owls don't wait around specifically for
them...

What is most effective for them are the rattlesnakes, at least here. I
don't much care to have them in the yard around the house, either,
although I don't discourage them around the barn, etc., where rodents
are more of an perpetual issue. And, of course, they're not active
during the winter when the gophers are making hay, so to speak...