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Chisa January 3rd 05 01:34 AM

Toilet clogging
 
My husband and I have been living less than a year in a house with 5
bedrooms n 4 bathrooms and every so often a toilet clogs which amazes me
since we're just 2 people and a dog (dog doesn't know how to flush so he
goes in the yard).

We've never had any guest in our house since we moved, we don't flush
anything other than TP and our own bio wastes. There's one bathroom upstairs
that's worst of all and it's in the hallway, not so much problem with the
master though.
My husband and I had a discussion over how to use the toilet paper, he's
accusing me of folding it the wrong way - we buy the fluffy ones, I heard it
can be a problem.

It's a second hand house, there was a family of 5 living here for over 20
years before we moved in.

Am I to blame for folding tp sheet by sheet instead of just crumpling or
ruffling it? - not sure what verb to use here.

Thanks for your concern.



Joseph Meehan January 3rd 05 02:05 AM

Chisa wrote:
My husband and I have been living less than a year in a house with 5
bedrooms n 4 bathrooms and every so often a toilet clogs which amazes
me since we're just 2 people and a dog (dog doesn't know how to flush
so he goes in the yard).

We've never had any guest in our house since we moved, we don't flush
anything other than TP and our own bio wastes. There's one bathroom
upstairs that's worst of all and it's in the hallway, not so much
problem with the master though.
My husband and I had a discussion over how to use the toilet paper,
he's accusing me of folding it the wrong way - we buy the fluffy
ones, I heard it can be a problem.

It's a second hand house, there was a family of 5 living here for
over 20 years before we moved in.

Am I to blame for folding tp sheet by sheet instead of just crumpling
or ruffling it? - not sure what verb to use here.

Thanks for your concern.


Well you could follow your dogs example and there would not be a
clogging problem. :-)

There can be several reasons. The quality of the toilets, their design,
the condition of the pipes, clogged vents. adjustments of the toilet, hard
water build up, blocked pipes and the list may go on.

Unless you are using a whole roll at at time or using the cardboard
center as well as the paper around it, I don't think your use of toilet
paper is at issue.

--
Joseph Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math



Mike Grooms January 3rd 05 02:52 AM


"Chisa"

I'm going to assume this isn't some sort of joke, right?

If you're serious, then write back with how you've solved the previous
problems. Did you just use a plunger, or did you have the toilet taken up
and rodded, or what?




ADC January 3rd 05 03:19 AM

could be roots in the drain line. Maybe build-up? Once the house cleare
flushed those clorox wipes and it clogged our drain, since they don't break
down quickly. Probably not your TP.


"Chisa" wrote in message
...
My husband and I have been living less than a year in a house with 5
bedrooms n 4 bathrooms and every so often a toilet clogs which amazes me
since we're just 2 people and a dog (dog doesn't know how to flush so he
goes in the yard).

We've never had any guest in our house since we moved, we don't flush
anything other than TP and our own bio wastes. There's one bathroom
upstairs that's worst of all and it's in the hallway, not so much problem
with the master though.
My husband and I had a discussion over how to use the toilet paper, he's
accusing me of folding it the wrong way - we buy the fluffy ones, I heard
it can be a problem.

It's a second hand house, there was a family of 5 living here for over 20
years before we moved in.

Am I to blame for folding tp sheet by sheet instead of just crumpling or
ruffling it? - not sure what verb to use here.

Thanks for your concern.




Chisa January 3rd 05 07:27 AM

"I'm going to assume this isn't some sort of joke, right?

If you're serious, then write back with how you've solved the previous
problems. Did you just use a plunger, or did you have the toilet taken up
and rodded, or what?"

Hello Mike, it sounded like a joke to me too when my husband confronted me
about my tp folding causing the clogging, I wanted to take his temperature,
it sounded unbelievable, so that's why I posted this so you guys tell him!

He likes to unclog using the regular simple plunger, I find it messy and
since I don't have as much strengh as him to jolt the thing down there, I
use boiling water that usually works too.

I come from Brazil and houses I used to live have the hydra system - not
sure about technical names - where the toilet tank is located at the roof of
the house, not on top of toilet so there's much more pressure on the
flushing water and there were fewer problems. Although the late apartment I
lived in BR was built with tank on top of toilet so I figure either things
have changed or you get what you pay for..

Thanks for replies.



twfsa January 3rd 05 12:13 PM

Maybe your turd's are over size?

Tom


"Chisa" wrote in message
...
My husband and I have been living less than a year in a house with 5
bedrooms n 4 bathrooms and every so often a toilet clogs which amazes me
since we're just 2 people and a dog (dog doesn't know how to flush so he
goes in the yard).

We've never had any guest in our house since we moved, we don't flush
anything other than TP and our own bio wastes. There's one bathroom
upstairs that's worst of all and it's in the hallway, not so much problem
with the master though.
My husband and I had a discussion over how to use the toilet paper, he's
accusing me of folding it the wrong way - we buy the fluffy ones, I heard
it can be a problem.

It's a second hand house, there was a family of 5 living here for over 20
years before we moved in.

Am I to blame for folding tp sheet by sheet instead of just crumpling or
ruffling it? - not sure what verb to use here.

Thanks for your concern.




David Martel January 3rd 05 02:17 PM

Chisa,

Please reassure your husband that improper folding does not cause clogs.
It sounds as if your pipes are partially blocked by something. A plunger
will not solve this. Where the blockage is located and whether you can use a
snake to clear it must be investigated further. If you are not comfortable
doing this then call a plumber or "roto-rooter" guy.

Dave M.



[email protected] January 3rd 05 02:22 PM

There have been posts stating the thicker/softer/fluffier TP can cause
problems in some toilets, as well as amount used per flush.

On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 02:27:23 -0500, "Chisa"
wrote:

Hello Mike, it sounded like a joke to me too when my husband confronted me
about my tp folding causing the clogging, I wanted to take his temperature,
it sounded unbelievable, so that's why I posted this so you guys tell him!



Art January 3rd 05 03:41 PM

You could replace your toilets with pressure flush models from Gerber or
Kohler.


"Chisa" wrote in message
...
My husband and I have been living less than a year in a house with 5
bedrooms n 4 bathrooms and every so often a toilet clogs which amazes me
since we're just 2 people and a dog (dog doesn't know how to flush so he
goes in the yard).

We've never had any guest in our house since we moved, we don't flush
anything other than TP and our own bio wastes. There's one bathroom
upstairs that's worst of all and it's in the hallway, not so much problem
with the master though.
My husband and I had a discussion over how to use the toilet paper, he's
accusing me of folding it the wrong way - we buy the fluffy ones, I heard
it can be a problem.

It's a second hand house, there was a family of 5 living here for over 20
years before we moved in.

Am I to blame for folding tp sheet by sheet instead of just crumpling or
ruffling it? - not sure what verb to use here.

Thanks for your concern.




SQLit January 3rd 05 05:30 PM


"Chisa" wrote in message
...
My husband and I have been living less than a year in a house with 5
bedrooms n 4 bathrooms and every so often a toilet clogs which amazes me
since we're just 2 people and a dog (dog doesn't know how to flush so he
goes in the yard).

We've never had any guest in our house since we moved, we don't flush
anything other than TP and our own bio wastes. There's one bathroom

upstairs
that's worst of all and it's in the hallway, not so much problem with the
master though.
My husband and I had a discussion over how to use the toilet paper, he's
accusing me of folding it the wrong way - we buy the fluffy ones, I heard

it
can be a problem.

It's a second hand house, there was a family of 5 living here for over 20
years before we moved in.

Am I to blame for folding tp sheet by sheet instead of just crumpling or
ruffling it? - not sure what verb to use here.

Thanks for your concern.


Newer Home? Low flow toilets and shower heads?
I have the same problem with my home circa 1999 occasionally. I had to
raise the level in the tanks to almost the maximum to keep the problem
described at bay.
I still have to plunge a couple of times a month.
My brother has the same problem. He has a home by the same builder.



[email protected] January 3rd 05 05:43 PM

Since you mentioned you had a dog... is it the same toilet? We had a
similar problem -- our dog was dropping nylon bones in the toilet --
the symptom I noticed was that the toilet was draining/flushing slowly.


If there is a hard foreign object in the toilet, it may be really hard
to see/get out. I had to remove the toilet, flip it, and use a coat
hanger to get the bone out. The first time I took the toilet out (and
flipped it), I didn't see the bone inside.

Hope this helps, Herb


John Hines January 3rd 05 08:13 PM

"SQLit" wrote:


"Chisa" wrote in message
.. .
My husband and I have been living less than a year in a house with 5
bedrooms n 4 bathrooms and every so often a toilet clogs which amazes me
since we're just 2 people and a dog (dog doesn't know how to flush so he
goes in the yard).

We've never had any guest in our house since we moved, we don't flush
anything other than TP and our own bio wastes. There's one bathroom

upstairs
that's worst of all and it's in the hallway, not so much problem with the
master though.
My husband and I had a discussion over how to use the toilet paper, he's
accusing me of folding it the wrong way - we buy the fluffy ones, I heard

it
can be a problem.

It's a second hand house, there was a family of 5 living here for over 20
years before we moved in.

Am I to blame for folding tp sheet by sheet instead of just crumpling or
ruffling it? - not sure what verb to use here.

Thanks for your concern.


Newer Home? Low flow toilets and shower heads?
I have the same problem with my home circa 1999 occasionally. I had to
raise the level in the tanks to almost the maximum to keep the problem
described at bay.
I still have to plunge a couple of times a month.
My brother has the same problem. He has a home by the same builder.


The toilet I replaced a few months ago, a 10 year old low flush model,
had a big deposit build up in the back where the trapway inverts, and
the water (or acid buildup remover) can not get to it.

Replacing with a new toilet, that has a larger trapway, solved my
problems.

Ned Flanders January 3rd 05 09:49 PM

Is it the toilet or the drain that clogs??

I fixed a problem like you described by putting a toilet auger
through the toilet after I pulled it up from floor. A bar of soap
came out and a toothbrush. The toothbrush would slowly build
up TP then clog; A plunge would clear it for a while.




wrote in message
oups.com...
Since you mentioned you had a dog... is it the same toilet? We had a
similar problem -- our dog was dropping nylon bones in the toilet --
the symptom I noticed was that the toilet was draining/flushing slowly.


If there is a hard foreign object in the toilet, it may be really hard
to see/get out. I had to remove the toilet, flip it, and use a coat
hanger to get the bone out. The first time I took the toilet out (and
flipped it), I didn't see the bone inside.

Hope this helps, Herb




Mike Grooms January 4th 05 04:01 AM


"Chisa"

If your husband can fix it with a plunger, then, and this is coming from
the plumbing newsgroup, there's probably something caught in the toilets
themselves. When you plunge the toilet, the toilet paper gets forced
through, but that which is catching the paper is still there. Either try a
closet auger, or take the toilet up, turn it upside down, and do your best
to find and retrive the obstruction. It could be a toothbrush, or toilet
paper core, or shampoo cap, Q-Tips, or some similar item.

If you don't find an object in the toilet itself, then it's further down
the drain.




Ron Peterson January 5th 05 02:27 PM


Chisa wrote:
My husband and I have been living less than a year in a house with 5
bedrooms n 4 bathrooms and every so often a toilet clogs which amazes

me
since we're just 2 people and a dog (dog doesn't know how to flush so

he
goes in the yard).


If you have hard water the jets around the rim may be clogged giving
reduced flow during a flush. You can alleviate the problem by pouring
toilet cleaner down the standpipe inside the tank.

--
Ron


kevlon January 15th 05 09:54 PM

it might be the old 1.6 gallon flush problem, that could be cured by
just holding down the handle a little longer when flushing solid
waste.

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 20:34:42 -0500, "Chisa"
wrote:

My husband and I have been living less than a year in a house with 5
bedrooms n 4 bathrooms and every so often a toilet clogs which amazes me
since we're just 2 people and a dog (dog doesn't know how to flush so he
goes in the yard).

We've never had any guest in our house since we moved, we don't flush
anything other than TP and our own bio wastes. There's one bathroom upstairs
that's worst of all and it's in the hallway, not so much problem with the
master though.
My husband and I had a discussion over how to use the toilet paper, he's
accusing me of folding it the wrong way - we buy the fluffy ones, I heard it
can be a problem.

It's a second hand house, there was a family of 5 living here for over 20
years before we moved in.

Am I to blame for folding tp sheet by sheet instead of just crumpling or
ruffling it? - not sure what verb to use here.

Thanks for your concern.



[email protected] January 23rd 05 04:08 PM

Yes, I've heard the same thing for years. Charmin is esp. bad for
toilets.

With the new low-flow toilets, we can no longer use t.p. like we did
in the old days. The rule is to use the less-fluffy kind, and use it
sparingly. If your - ahem - product is voluminous, then you flush
first, then wipe and flush the t.p.

These are new times.


On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 09:22:44 -0500, "
wrote:

There have been posts stating the thicker/softer/fluffier TP can cause
problems in some toilets, as well as amount used per flush.

On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 02:27:23 -0500, "Chisa"
wrote:

Hello Mike, it sounded like a joke to me too when my husband confronted me
about my tp folding causing the clogging, I wanted to take his temperature,
it sounded unbelievable, so that's why I posted this so you guys tell him!



Michael Baugh January 23rd 05 04:28 PM

Or get an American Standard Cadet.

wrote in message
...
If your - ahem - product is voluminous, then you flush
first, then wipe and flush the t.p.

These are new times.






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