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Eli Sucks December 28th 04 04:41 PM

walmart power tools opinions
 
Anybody have any experience with the walmart brand of power tools "power
Max" ?
I was thinking of getting a circ saw for $39.99 CDN.
Should I just stick with B&D or Skil?
thanx
Steve W.

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Duane Bozarth December 28th 04 05:16 PM

"John‰]
" wrote:

In article oups.com,
Eli Sucks wrote:

Anybody have any experience with the walmart brand of power tools "power
Max" ?
I was thinking of getting a circ saw for $39.99 CDN.
Should I just stick with B&D or Skil?
thanx
Steve W.


Cheap tools are no bargain.


Including some of the cheap "name brand" stuff Waly-World sells as
well...

I haven't actually seen the latest branded stuff of which you speak, but
it undoubtedly is the lowest possible cost straight from the Chinese
sweat shop... :(

Edwin Pawlowski December 28th 04 05:53 PM


"Eli Sucks" wrote in message
wsgroups.com...
Anybody have any experience with the walmart brand of power tools "power
Max" ?
I was thinking of getting a circ saw for $39.99 CDN.
Should I just stick with B&D or Skil?
thanx
Steve W.


Little difference between any of the cheap brands. They may be OK for the
once or twice a year use of a homeowner, but they are not what you will find
in the toolbox of a pro. DeWalt, Porter Cable, Milwaukee, etc are far
superior.



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Should I just stick with B&D or Skil?
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MUADIB® December 29th 04 02:42 AM

I was thinking of getting a circ saw for $39.99 CDN.
Should I just stick with B&D or Skil?


If you're gonna buy it , buy it soon! The Tsunami's and the Earthquake
results may drive up prices of even th cheap stuff very soon.

Just a thought for all of us, Things will be going up soon, as
Building materials have already gone outta sight lately due to lots of
overseas projects that are being ship[ped to.............the water
ravaged areas will likely use even more of the resources that are
available and many things will be affected pricewise.




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toller December 29th 04 03:50 AM


Little difference between any of the cheap brands.


Not true. Homier is substantially worse than any other brand.



davefr December 29th 04 03:18 PM

Power Max, B&D, Skill, Harbor Freight, Craftsman are all the low end
crap. (not much difference among them).

I'd buy the top shelf power tools such as Porter Cable, Milwaukie,
Panasonic, Bosch and you'll be much happier in the long run.

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 11:41:03 -0500, "Eli Sucks"
wrote:

Anybody have any experience with the walmart brand of power tools "power
Max" ?
I was thinking of getting a circ saw for $39.99 CDN.
Should I just stick with B&D or Skil?
thanx
Steve W.



SJF December 29th 04 11:05 PM

Cheap tools are no bargain.

John


I have a good router and bits which I bought 20 years ago and used once.
That was no bargain!

SJF



Martik December 30th 04 02:30 AM


"Eli Sucks" wrote in message
wsgroups.com...
Anybody have any experience with the walmart brand of power tools "power
Max" ?
I was thinking of getting a circ saw for $39.99 CDN.
Should I just stick with B&D or Skil?
thanx
Steve W.


For occasional homeowner use they are good enough. I have some of these
tools that have lasted over 20 years. You don't need to spend $200+ on a saw
that is used a few times/year.
Make sure it has a carbide tipped blade.



Phisherman December 30th 04 03:28 AM

Bosch, DeWalt, Milwaukee, Makita or Porter Cable are good choices.
"Made in China" and Walmart brand power tools are best avoided.

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 11:41:03 -0500, "Eli Sucks"
wrote:

Anybody have any experience with the walmart brand of power tools "power
Max" ?
I was thinking of getting a circ saw for $39.99 CDN.
Should I just stick with B&D or Skil?
thanx
Steve W.



Pop December 30th 04 08:43 PM

The problem with "power max" tools is, you don't know whose tools
they actually are. For example, Wm puts out a spec that says
"circular saw, 6" blade, runs on 120V and has a cord x' long".
Then you, I, or anyone else can offer them our poducsts;
whoever's cheapest and has the least law suits pending gets the
order if they can supply the quantities on time. Usually they
will have at least two, they like three, different companies that
can supply the same specced circ. saw. They don'[t even have to
look the same!
B&D, Skil & Craftsman are all decent equipment and work well
for the homeowner. They have "residential" and "commercial" and
"industrial" versions sometimes, in order to sell the same basic
saw with various peripherals, etc., and usually the industrial
versions will last longer, cost more, and be less precise (eg
runout, in this case, on the shaft). Contractors don't want
precision necessarily: They want Power a la Home Improvement, so
the more expensive saws often arent' the best choices, besides
being more than you realy need ofr a homeowner.
Personally I've used or still use all three of those brands
and they've always been good tools. If you know what you're
buying, the chinese/japanese/etc. stuff can be good, but you
never know up front in my experience. I bought Japanese once,
not that most of them aren't already Japanese, because I'd used
one a neighbor loaned me, and it worked fantastic. Mine didn't
though; went thru two sets of brushes before I trash canned it.
The latest Woodworker's journal just ran an article about
them, and identified several Asian brands that, for instance,
beat the big three for shaft runout. The ten they tested had a
max .002" shaft runout while the "big names" went up to .004",
one at .009". Doesn't sound like much, but it is meaningful when
yuo're also putting a blade with its own runout on the shaft. A
blade with say .001" runout will cut terribly on a bad shaft, or
especially one that's not well balanced. Don't quote me; I could
have those numbers incorrect, but the relationships are right.
IFF you know what you're buying and can tell the mfg by
looking, Harbor Freight and Homier et al have some very low price
tools. But, it's a total crapshoot unless you know what you're
looking at.
Lately I'm liking B&D again, but if I recall correctly,
they're actually Makita. There has been a huge merging activity
in tool companies the last few years; no one seems to be the
names you know/knew anymore. Skil is another one that's
cross-owned; don't recall the rest.

My 2 cents anyway. ymmv of course.

Pop


davefr wrote:
Power Max, B&D, Skill, Harbor Freight, Craftsman are all the
low end
crap. (not much difference among them).

I'd buy the top shelf power tools such as Porter Cable,
Milwaukie,
Panasonic, Bosch and you'll be much happier in the long run.

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 11:41:03 -0500, "Eli Sucks"
wrote:

Anybody have any experience with the walmart brand of power
tools
"power Max" ?
I was thinking of getting a circ saw for $39.99 CDN.
Should I just stick with B&D or Skil?
thanx
Steve W.




John Willis December 30th 04 09:50 PM

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:43:47 -0500, "Pop"
scribbled this interesting note:

Lately I'm liking B&D again, but if I recall correctly,
they're actually Makita.


B&D=DeWalt

There has been a huge merging activity
in tool companies the last few years; no one seems to be the
names you know/knew anymore. Skil is another one that's
cross-owned;


Skil=Bosch.

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John Willis
(Remove the Primes before e-mailing me)

Roger Shoaf December 31st 04 07:41 AM


"SJF" wrote in message news:qMGAd.307$232.61@fed1read05...
Cheap tools are no bargain.

John


I have a good router and bits which I bought 20 years ago and used once.
That was no bargain!


What kind of router is it?

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.




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