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[email protected] December 22nd 04 01:24 PM

filling gaps in wood flooring AFTER already refinished?
 
Moving into a new home where the dining room and living room had been
sanded and finished by the sellers.

Problem is, there are some large gaps inbetween some of the planks on
the floors that are refinished. Now I know of the tricks to fill these
using a mixture of sawdust and glue (or varnish) but don't have any
sawdust. What are some other alternatives?

Would I need to varnish the floor again after repairing the gaps?

Also, we are probably going to have the remainder of the floors
refinished, should I wait and try and get some sawdust from that? The
floors are under years of paint as well. Would that be a problem, or do
i just wait until the paint is fully removed and take the dust then?

1st time homeowner (just closed yesterday!) so any advice would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks
-Owen


Joe Bobst December 22nd 04 02:01 PM

Would I need to varnish the floor again after repairing the gaps?

Yes. But before you get involved in this project, back off and wait a few
months for more serious house faults to crop up. The sellers obviously did a
hack job on the floors to make the house marketable, so you need time to ferret
out other shortcuts they have taken.
For now, put down low cost area rugs to keep the flaws out of sight while you
become accustomed to your new quarters. If you need something to do, research
ways of paint removal for the other problematic floors if thay seem good enough
to shape up with a standard refinish regimen.
It is possible that removing the old flooring and installing new is the way to
go. Get per foot estimates from local suppliers for hardwoods or laminates
depending on your preferences, then go for best value. HTH

Joe


[email protected] December 22nd 04 02:17 PM

Thanks, that is sound advice.

However I neglected to mention that this is a multi-family townhouse
and the floors that were re-finished are on the side we plan on
renting.

I want to make sure that the floor are protected, before I get tenants
in there.

Not looking to replace the floors over there, just make sure that they
are presentable and protected.

Thanks
-Owen


Ed Clarke December 22nd 04 02:49 PM

In article om,
wrote:

Problem is, there are some large gaps inbetween some of the planks on
the floors that are refinished. Now I know of the tricks to fill these
using a mixture of sawdust and glue (or varnish) but don't have any
sawdust. What are some other alternatives?


Yes, do nothing! It's winter time and the floors will contract from
the low humidity. If you fill those cracks, you are going to have a
serious problem when the humidity goes up in the summer. As in bulges,
bows and bumps all over the floor.

[email protected] December 22nd 04 02:52 PM

take different widths of rope / hemp rope (unravel to get this) and try
and match the colour of the stain and stain the rope. using whatever
blunt tool that fits in the gaps push the stained rope in.


Doug Kanter December 22nd 04 03:01 PM

I agree with what Joe said, so I won't add anything about the floors.
However, because you said you're a first time homeowner, I'll make a big
deal out of something else: If you're in a cold climate, check RIGHT NOW to
be sure the outside hose faucets are shut off (via the valves in the
cellar), or that they are the frost free type. When pipes freeze and burst,
it's not fun, especially if you moved in recently and still have cardboard
boxes in the basement. And, they usually burst when you're not home because
there are these evil home repair gremlins.....a long story. Washing machines
and their friends, the laundry tubs, also like to overflow when you're not
there to shut them off.

I've never had the frost free hose outlets, so I can't describe them to you.
If you have the regular type, turn on the water outside, then go in and turn
off the valve in the cellar. Go back outside, wait a minute for any residual
water to drain out, close the outside valves, and then congratulate yourself
for doing a good thing. If the water does NOT stop, it means the washers in
the inside valves are worn out. If you own a wrench already, replacing the
washers will cost less than three bucks. The washers are fifteen cents each,
and the rest of the cost is for a roll of teflon plumber's tape. Find a real
hardware store. They'll show you what the tape's for.

I mention this because I just moved into a house owned by a young couple who
never paid attention to the plumbing. It's easy to tell when washers are
going bad. They're supposed to be pliable, and they press against a hard
metal surface when the valve is shut off. You'll see that when you
disassemble the valves to fix them. When you shut off a valve or faucet and
it feels hard, the washer's stiff and needs replacement. Buy extra washers.
It's silly to blow a gallon of gas for a fifteen cent washer.

Wow....I really DID make a big deal out of this! But, I've had several wet
basement episodes. Nobody deserves that. Oh...speaking of laundry tubs, grab
a good flashlight and peek into the drain of your tub, if you have one and
your washing machine drains into it. Check for lint in the drain, and yank
it out with tweezers or needlenose pliers if necessary.

OK...enough. :-)



[email protected] December 23rd 04 02:32 AM

Thanks for the advice, I already checked the outside plumbing (i had a
faucet burst at a rental place once)

I'm not sure that I can wait unitl the summer to fix the gaps, since I
plan on having the place rented by then. Will the rope allow for
compression?


Doug Kanter December 23rd 04 03:46 AM


wrote in message
ups.com...
Thanks for the advice, I already checked the outside plumbing (i had a
faucet burst at a rental place once)

I'm not sure that I can wait unitl the summer to fix the gaps, since I
plan on having the place rented by then. Will the rope allow for
compression?


I didn't suggest the rope, but I've heard of that technique. But, it's soft,
so it sounds like a safe bet. Meanwhile, why not get 3 estimates from REAL
floor finishers, and see if you can afford to have it done right before you
rent it? All it takes is a tenant who constantly leaves wet shoes in a small
area, and that part of the floor is ruined, unless it's finished correctly.



[email protected] December 23rd 04 06:59 PM

I have a couple guys coming in next week for estimates. I'm expecting
around $4-6 per square foot, since there is alot of paint on them and
many nails.

The floors I'm concerned with now, have already been sanded and staind
by the previous owners. From what the real estate agent said, they were
reluctant to do any work at all, so i'm sure they did it as cheap as
possible. I just want to do what I can before it is rented.

In the upstairs bedrooms, I have been trying to decide whether or not
to refinish those floors (vs. carpeting). One of the floors is pretty
nasty and has a big stain on it (smells like urine). I'm thinking that
the hardwood is better, but if I have to pay close to $6 per square
foot, the 3 bedrooms will cost be a fortune (12'x10' , 15'x13' &
12'x10')


Doug Kanter December 23rd 04 07:42 PM

I just helped a friend of mine move into an apartment. The carpet's
gorgeous. I asked the landlord about it. He said he bought top of the line
Stainmaster carpet, and pays a pro to clean it between tenants. He said it
was 6 years old and was filthy before my friend moved in, but it looked new
to me. Something to think about. My first instinct would've been cheap
carpet for renters, but I guess not.

wrote in message
ups.com...
I have a couple guys coming in next week for estimates. I'm expecting
around $4-6 per square foot, since there is alot of paint on them and
many nails.

The floors I'm concerned with now, have already been sanded and staind
by the previous owners. From what the real estate agent said, they were
reluctant to do any work at all, so i'm sure they did it as cheap as
possible. I just want to do what I can before it is rented.

In the upstairs bedrooms, I have been trying to decide whether or not
to refinish those floors (vs. carpeting). One of the floors is pretty
nasty and has a big stain on it (smells like urine). I'm thinking that
the hardwood is better, but if I have to pay close to $6 per square
foot, the 3 bedrooms will cost be a fortune (12'x10' , 15'x13' &
12'x10')





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