Plastic windows ?
 

I am going to check out some old lumber yards, and see if they still
have some wooden framed windows in stock, but if not I guess I am
forced to buy these damn plastic things, which will probably fall
apart in a couple years after the sunlight and freezing weather cause

You could grab a router and some sticks, and make your own sashes.
It's fiddly work, but it ain't rocket science. What did you do with the

old ones?

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I went to a building supply center to get some replacement windows for
my barn. They are the old 4 lite 20X25 inch wooden framed windows
used ever since they first began building barns. I was rather shocked
to find they no longer make wooden ones, but make plastic (vinyl)
ones. Yuckkkkkk.....

I really dont want cheap crappy plastic windows, and they are going to
stick out like a sore thumb, because they are white, while my old
windows are barn red, and I am sure paint will not hold up on them, no
matter what I do.

This is real discouraging, but it seems that everything is being made
of plastic now a days. It's no wonder we have to pay so much for
gasoline these days, since half our crude oil is being turned into
cheap disposible plastic crap.

Wrong, but that is another topic. The platic windows will require less
maintenance, last longer and seal beter than most wood windowsn. Wood is
still made if you take the time fto find it.

Ask about painting them. It can be done and can last a long time.

When you get your wood windows, make sure they are not factory glazed.
In my neck of the woods, the surfaces covered by glass & glazing
compound are raw wood.
They rot and the joints open and ...
Wood just isn't what it used to be.
TB

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bemoaning lack of wooden windows and complaining about plastic "crap"

I might just be as much of an old coot as you Mark 8-). MHO is that the new
plastic (actually, probably some sort of vinyl) or metal window frames work
much better and longer than wood and require virtually no maintenance. I'm
replacing mine as needed and glad to do it. Can you say no scraping,
priming and painting every few years? Talk to a specialty paint and/or
window store (as opposed to big box store) and you'll find the right product
and technique to paint to match existing windows.

I think the days of thinking or saying that synthetic products are "cheap"
are about 25 years long gone.

And about the price of fuel ... in real terms, adjusted for inflation and
compared to other consumer commodities, gasoline is not expensive compared
to past decades.

But if you want wooden windows, I'd be very very surprised if you can't find
them. Again, enquire at a specialty shop, not a big box. Or do a web
search.

Camilo wrote:
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bemoaning lack of wooden windows and complaining about plastic "crap"

I might just be as much of an old coot as you Mark 8-). MHO is that the new
plastic (actually, probably some sort of vinyl) or metal window frames work
much better and longer than wood and require virtually no maintenance. I'm
replacing mine as needed and glad to do it. Can you say no scraping,
priming and painting every few years? Talk to a specialty paint and/or
window store (as opposed to big box store) and you'll find the right product
and technique to paint to match existing windows.

I think the days of thinking or saying that synthetic products are "cheap"
are about 25 years long gone.

And about the price of fuel ... in real terms, adjusted for inflation and
compared to other consumer commodities, gasoline is not expensive compared
to past decades.

But if you want wooden windows, I'd be very very surprised if you can't find
them. Again, enquire at a specialty shop, not a big box. Or do a web
search.




Most of what you say is true. But metal frames are a PITA,
unless you don't care about comfort. Loose wooden frames
have been shown to have a greater insulation value than
tight metal frames. We replaced our metal window frames
with acrylic frames and were delighted with the increased
comfort and decreased sound transmission. Of course the OP
could get frames in the same color as his barn paint, if he
wishes.

As far as the OP's desire for wood is concerned, he can
probably buy a reasonable table saw and make the frames and
insure that they are completely painted before glazing,
cheaper than buying made windows. The first may take a
while, and be a PITA but the following ones will be really
quick when he understands the cuts. Anyway, on a barn they
don't have to be perfect, just good.

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And about the price of fuel ... in real terms, adjusted for
inflation and compared to other consumer commodities, gasoline
is
not expensive compared to past decades.
....

That is patently untrue regardless of ANY valid-year's dollars
used for comparison, which is the only way to do it. Please post
something to verify the comment, or retract it. What is the
source?

Pop

"Pop" wrote in message
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And about the price of fuel ... in real terms, adjusted for
inflation and compared to other consumer commodities, gasoline
is
not expensive compared to past decades.
...

That is patently untrue regardless of ANY valid-year's dollars
used for comparison, which is the only way to do it. Please post
something to verify the comment, or retract it. What is the
source?

Pop


OK, "Pop", try these two, and be sure to let us know what you find out By
the way, what does "patently untrue" mean?

http://www1.jsc.nasa.gov/bu2/inflateCPI.html

http://qrc.depaul.edu/ndcruz/cpiexpln.doc

Cam

I like that last link Cam.

"Camilo" wrote in message
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"Pop" wrote in message
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And about the price of fuel ... in real terms, adjusted for
inflation and compared to other consumer commodities, gasoline
is
not expensive compared to past decades.
...

That is patently untrue regardless of ANY valid-year's dollars
used for comparison, which is the only way to do it. Please post
something to verify the comment, or retract it. What is the
source?

Pop


OK, "Pop", try these two, and be sure to let us know what you find out
By
the way, what does "patently untrue" mean?

http://www1.jsc.nasa.gov/bu2/inflateCPI.html

http://qrc.depaul.edu/ndcruz/cpiexpln.doc

Cam