Home Repair (alt.home.repair) For all homeowners and DIYers with many experienced tradesmen. Solve your toughest home fix-it problems.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Old November 18th 04, 08:21 PM
Dennis Ballance
 
Posts: n/a
Default Kenmore oven won't shut off

I have a Kenmore electric range (really a Whirlpool). Today while
baking something, the top heater element in the oven basically went
into broil mode, staying energized. I could not shut it off, even
after pressing the "Cancel" button (although the display indicated the
oven was off). Eventually I got a "E2 F3" error, which appears to be a
"oven too hot" warning (solution = replace thermal sensor) according
to http://www.american-appliance.com/se...ault_codes.htm.

Ultimately, I had to turn off the circuit breaker (and if I turn it
back on, the element comes back on again!).

It sounds to me like a bad control element, rather than a thermal
sensor problem (i.e., the thermal sensor was doing its job when the
oven got too hot). Of course, I have to wait about a week to get a
repair tech out. Any DIY solutions come to mind?

Thanks!

--Dennis

  #2   Report Post  
Old November 18th 04, 08:27 PM
Charles Spitzer
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Dennis Ballance" wrote in message
om...
I have a Kenmore electric range (really a Whirlpool). Today while
baking something, the top heater element in the oven basically went
into broil mode, staying energized. I could not shut it off, even
after pressing the "Cancel" button (although the display indicated the
oven was off). Eventually I got a "E2 F3" error, which appears to be a
"oven too hot" warning (solution = replace thermal sensor) according
to
http://www.american-appliance.com/se...ault_codes.htm.

Ultimately, I had to turn off the circuit breaker (and if I turn it
back on, the element comes back on again!).

It sounds to me like a bad control element, rather than a thermal
sensor problem (i.e., the thermal sensor was doing its job when the
oven got too hot). Of course, I have to wait about a week to get a
repair tech out. Any DIY solutions come to mind?

Thanks!

--Dennis


pull out the element. it should just plug in somewhere. of course you lose
the broiler, but that's why god invented propane grills.


  #3   Report Post  
Old November 18th 04, 09:10 PM
John Harlow
 
Posts: n/a
Default


It sounds to me like a bad control element, rather than a thermal
sensor problem (i.e., the thermal sensor was doing its job when the
oven got too hot). Of course, I have to wait about a week to get a
repair tech out. Any DIY solutions come to mind?


I assume this has electronic controls; my guess is the driver SCR or
whatever semiconductor has shorted. IF you can get to it, determine it's
bad (very low ohm reading across it on multimeter), and find a cross
reference part number, I'd bet it'd cost less than $5 to fix. But that's a
lot of IFs


  #4   Report Post  
Old November 19th 04, 06:11 AM
Travis Jordan
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Dennis Ballance wrote:
I have a Kenmore electric range (really a Whirlpool). Today while
baking something, the top heater element in the oven basically went
into broil mode, staying energized. I could not shut it off, even
after pressing the "Cancel" button (although the display indicated the
oven was off). Eventually I got a "E2 F3" error, which appears to be a
"oven too hot" warning (solution = replace thermal sensor) according
to

http://www.american-appliance.com/se...ault_codes.htm.

Ultimately, I had to turn off the circuit breaker (and if I turn it
back on, the element comes back on again!).

It sounds to me like a bad control element, rather than a thermal
sensor problem (i.e., the thermal sensor was doing its job when the
oven got too hot). Of course, I have to wait about a week to get a
repair tech out. Any DIY solutions come to mind?


Sounds like an open thermal sensor to me. A common failure.


  #5   Report Post  
Old November 19th 04, 12:16 PM
jeff
 
Posts: n/a
Default

(Dennis Ballance) wrote in message . com...

Hi,

I have a Kenmore electric range (really a Whirlpool).


Model#??

Today while
baking something, the top heater element in the oven basically went
into broil mode, staying energized. I could not shut it off, even
after pressing the "Cancel" button (although the display indicated the
oven was off). Eventually I got a "E2 F3" error, which appears to be a
"oven too hot" warning (solution = replace thermal sensor) according
to
http://www.american-appliance.com/se...ault_codes.htm.

Ultimately, I had to turn off the circuit breaker (and if I turn it
back on, the element comes back on again!).

It sounds to me like a bad control element, rather than a thermal
sensor problem (i.e., the thermal sensor was doing its job when the
oven got too hot). Of course, I have to wait about a week to get a
repair tech out. Any DIY solutions come to mind?


Certainly *sounds* like a bad control or possibly a melted wire
bypassing the control....but we may learn more once we see what
style/model yours is.

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/


  #6   Report Post  
Old December 7th 04, 03:29 PM
[email protected]
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Well..here's the skinny. I had two problems. The broiler element had a
short, which is why it would come on as soon as power was applied. But
that short was probably secondary to a relay failure on the control
board, which would "stick" in a closed position once it was closed
(meaning, the broiler wouldn't shut off after the preheat phase). It
would open after power was removed from the stove. But it did make for
an interesting diagnostic challenge, as I thought I had the problem
fixed when I replaced the broiler.

Thanks for the tips!

--Dennis



Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Problem with Kenmore gas oven Christopher R. Palmer Home Repair 6 December 12th 03 03:29 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:37 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2004-2017 DIYbanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about DIY & home improvement"

 

Copyright © 2017