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What tool to use to cut stair nose?
I am thinking to put some 5/16" hardwood floor on my stairs. I have to cut off the nose from the 1" ply treads in order to put the hardwood nose on it. Some web site I visited suggested to cut the nose with a circular saw. But I did some cutting with a cheap ($40) Sears Craftsman circular saw before,and I never cut anything straight, both horizontally and vertically. I wonder if it would make a difference with a more expensive one. And I would avoid to use the circular saw if I can. Would a cheap reuter or recip saw cut the 1" ply nose? I don't have much experience with wordwork. But I can't find a contractor just doing that. I may also need that tool for a sink cutout on the kitchen counter. Thanks for any help. |
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"someone" wrote in message ... I am thinking to put some 5/16" hardwood floor on my stairs. I have to cut off the nose from the 1" ply treads in order to put the hardwood nose on it. Some web site I visited suggested to cut the nose with a circular saw. But I did some cutting with a cheap ($40) Sears Craftsman circular saw before,and I never cut anything straight, both horizontally and vertically. I wonder if it would make a difference with a more expensive one. And I would avoid to use the circular saw if I can. Would a cheap reuter or recip saw cut the 1" ply nose? I don't have much experience with wordwork. But I can't find a contractor just doing that. Of the tools you mentioned, the circ saw with a rip guide, sharp blade and slow motion will cut the straightest line. I take it these are open stairs? I ask because a circ saw is going to stop cutting about 1.25" from a perpendicular wall or obstruction. Colbyt |
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Colbyt wrote:
"someone" wrote in message ... I am thinking to put some 5/16" hardwood floor on my stairs. I have to cut off the nose from the 1" ply treads in order to put the hardwood nose on it. Some web site I visited suggested to cut the nose with a circular saw. But I did some cutting with a cheap ($40) Sears Craftsman circular saw before,and I never cut anything straight, both horizontally and vertically. I wonder if it would make a difference with a more expensive one. And I would avoid to use the circular saw if I can. Would a cheap reuter or recip saw cut the 1" ply nose? I don't have much experience with wordwork. But I can't find a contractor just doing that. Of the tools you mentioned, the circ saw with a rip guide, sharp blade and slow motion will cut the straightest line. I take it these are open stairs? I ask because a circ saw is going to stop cutting about 1.25" from a perpendicular wall or obstruction. Colbyt Thanks. The stair I have is not open. There are stringers on both sides. Aside from being a bit nervious on circular saw, I am also concerned that I might cut into a riser below when cutting the nose off. Do a good curcular saw ($100+) and the cheap one I have ($40) make big difference for this job? What is the difference between them anyway? |
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I am thinking to put some 5/16" hardwood floor on my stairs. I have to cut off the nose from the 1" ply treads in order to put the hardwood nose on it. Some web site I visited suggested to cut the nose with a circular saw. But I did some cutting with a cheap ($40) Sears Craftsman circular saw before,and I never cut anything straight, both horizontally and vertically. I wonder if it would make a difference with a more expensive one. And I would avoid to use the circular saw if I can. rec.woodworking is a good newsgroup for this kind of question. |
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I am thinking to put some 5/16" hardwood floor on my stairs. I have to cut off the nose from the 1" ply treads in order to put the hardwood nose on it. Every power tool I can think of will stop cutting when the body of the runs into the side of the stairs. A good circular saw is a good choice; forget the recip saw. You could rough cut it with the cheap circular saw & then finish up with a flush cutting router bit that has bearing to guide against the lower riser. You still have to contend with the "un-cut" section at each end of the tread. Sharp chisel & patience could do the end work. How many treads? 12? since you're covering the treads with flooring, could you pull out the treads & rip the nose off on a table saw & re-install? Bob |
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"Bob K 207" wrote in message ... I am thinking to put some 5/16" hardwood floor on my stairs. I have to cut off the nose from the 1" ply treads in order to put the hardwood nose on it. Every power tool I can think of will stop cutting when the body of the runs into the side of the stairs. A good circular saw is a good choice; forget the recip saw. You could rough cut it with the cheap circular saw & then finish up with a flush cutting router bit that has bearing to guide against the lower riser. You still have to contend with the "un-cut" section at each end of the tread. Sharp chisel & patience could do the end work. How many treads? 12? since you're covering the treads with flooring, could you pull out the treads & rip the nose off on a table saw & re-install? Bob rough cut it, then shape using a belt sander. they make sanders that can get very close to edges (using a very small front roller). be prepared for an immense amount of dust. regards, charlie cave creek, az |
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Charles Spitzer wrote:
"Bob K 207" wrote in message ... I am thinking to put some 5/16" hardwood floor on my stairs. I have to cut off the nose from the 1" ply treads in order to put the hardwood nose on it. Every power tool I can think of will stop cutting when the body of the runs into the side of the stairs. A good circular saw is a good choice; forget the recip saw. You could rough cut it with the cheap circular saw & then finish up with a flush cutting router bit that has bearing to guide against the lower riser. You still have to contend with the "un-cut" section at each end of the tread. Sharp chisel & patience could do the end work. How many treads? 12? since you're covering the treads with flooring, could you pull out the treads & rip the nose off on a table saw & re-install? Bob rough cut it, then shape using a belt sander. they make sanders that can get very close to edges (using a very small front roller). be prepared for an immense amount of dust. regards, charlie cave creek, az I am dealing with a ply stair, so I can't chisel. Sanding out that last part is not easy, I guess. What I was thinking is use a drill bit (drill saw) and cut through the parts near the stringers. Then sand off the rough part. I have 12 treads. This is a stair to the basement.If this is successful, I'll try to rip out the carpet on the stair leading to the upper floor, and put the hardwood in. What kind of router do you think I should get, considering this is one or two time job? I am still trying to avoid using a circular saw for this job. Do you think 5/16" hardwoord at: http://www.ifloor.com/productdisplay...101499&N=3+138 is a good choice for stair? Thanks. y. |
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a circ saw is going to stop cutting about 1.25" from a
perpendicular wall or obstruction. Finish it off with a flush cut handsaw, HTH Joe |
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Why don't you take some 3/4 stock and use a 3/4 ball bit and route the curve
of the bullnose in reverse and then nail and glue it on and then sand it flat. max Charles Spitzer wrote: "Bob K 207" wrote in message ... I am thinking to put some 5/16" hardwood floor on my stairs. I have to cut off the nose from the 1" ply treads in order to put the hardwood nose on it. Every power tool I can think of will stop cutting when the body of the runs into the side of the stairs. A good circular saw is a good choice; forget the recip saw. You could rough cut it with the cheap circular saw & then finish up with a flush cutting router bit that has bearing to guide against the lower riser. You still have to contend with the "un-cut" section at each end of the tread. Sharp chisel & patience could do the end work. How many treads? 12? since you're covering the treads with flooring, could you pull out the treads & rip the nose off on a table saw & re-install? Bob rough cut it, then shape using a belt sander. they make sanders that can get very close to edges (using a very small front roller). be prepared for an immense amount of dust. regards, charlie cave creek, az I am dealing with a ply stair, so I can't chisel. Sanding out that last part is not easy, I guess. What I was thinking is use a drill bit (drill saw) and cut through the parts near the stringers. Then sand off the rough part. I have 12 treads. This is a stair to the basement.If this is successful, I'll try to rip out the carpet on the stair leading to the upper floor, and put the hardwood in. What kind of router do you think I should get, considering this is one or two time job? I am still trying to avoid using a circular saw for this job. Do you think 5/16" hardwoord at: http://www.ifloor.com/productdisplay...101499&N=3+138 is a good choice for stair? Thanks. y. |
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Bosch makes a real nice flush trimming saw....
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...?v=glance&s=hi I love the thing, it can boldly go where no saw has gone before. Although i've never tried it on stair nosing, it has been used to cut hundreds of factory interior window sills out to make way for our custom sills. Nice clean even cuts flush to the jamb. I use it for undercutting casing / doorjambs to make way for tile or hardwood floors to. Check it out, it's a eeper! --dave "someone" wrote in message ... Charles Spitzer wrote: "Bob K 207" wrote in message ... I am thinking to put some 5/16" hardwood floor on my stairs. I have to cut off the nose from the 1" ply treads in order to put the hardwood nose on it. Every power tool I can think of will stop cutting when the body of the runs into the side of the stairs. A good circular saw is a good choice; forget the recip saw. You could rough cut it with the cheap circular saw & then finish up with a flush cutting router bit that has bearing to guide against the lower riser. You still have to contend with the "un-cut" section at each end of the tread. Sharp chisel & patience could do the end work. How many treads? 12? since you're covering the treads with flooring, could you pull out the treads & rip the nose off on a table saw & re-install? Bob rough cut it, then shape using a belt sander. they make sanders that can get very close to edges (using a very small front roller). be prepared for an immense amount of dust. regards, charlie cave creek, az I am dealing with a ply stair, so I can't chisel. Sanding out that last part is not easy, I guess. What I was thinking is use a drill bit (drill saw) and cut through the parts near the stringers. Then sand off the rough part. I have 12 treads. This is a stair to the basement.If this is successful, I'll try to rip out the carpet on the stair leading to the upper floor, and put the hardwood in. What kind of router do you think I should get, considering this is one or two time job? I am still trying to avoid using a circular saw for this job. Do you think 5/16" hardwoord at: http://www.ifloor.com/productdisplay...101499&N=3+138 is a good choice for stair? Thanks. y. |
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I love the thing, it can boldly go where no saw has gone before. Although
i've never tried it on stair nosing, it has been used to cut hundreds of factory interior window sills out to make way for our custom sills. Nice clean even cuts flush to the jamb. I use it for undercutting casing / doorjambs to make way for tile or hardwood floors to. Check it out, it's a eper! --dave They look pretty good. What kind of life do you get out of the blades? |
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The blades are about $10 and do last a while- I can cut about 40+
windowsills out before replacing it. Although, being a fine thin kerfed blade they are somewhat like a Japanese pull saw in the fact that one nail can really do some damage to the teeth in short order. Get a few extra blades when you find them. They are not the easiest things to find (at least in my area) --dave "mp" wrote in message ... I love the thing, it can boldly go where no saw has gone before. Although i've never tried it on stair nosing, it has been used to cut hundreds of factory interior window sills out to make way for our custom sills. Nice clean even cuts flush to the jamb. I use it for undercutting casing / doorjambs to make way for tile or hardwood floors to. Check it out, it's a per! --dave They look pretty good. What kind of life do you get out of the blades? |
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The blades are about $10 and do last a while- I can cut about 40+
windowsills out before replacing it. Although, being a fine thin kerfed blade they are somewhat like a Japanese pull saw in the fact that one nail can really do some damage to the teeth in short order. Get a few extra blades when you find them. They are not the easiest things to find (at least in my area) --dave Thanks. The reason I was asking is that one of the local stores sells the blades for $18 and at that price I'd hope they last a while. I always shop local if I can but sometimes the stores get a bit greedy. |
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What tool to use to cut stair nose?
replying to mp, Keith wrote:
The cheapest and best way I've found is : either borrow or buy a sawsall with a course blade. Cut in the middle of the riser and angle your saw to the right or left which ever you want to start, and just follow your stair tread to the end, now, when you get to the end bring the handle DOWN slowly and use the tip or end of the blade to finish the cut. Then turn around and do the same on the other end of the nose. Don't make something simple hard. IF you move away from your riser a little you can trim it closer with the sawzall OR use you circular saw to trim it flush. -- for full context, visit http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...se-568353-.htm |
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What tool to use to cut stair nose?
replying to mp, Keith wrote:
The best way I've found, is borrow or buy a sawzall with a course wood cutting blade, look at the face of the overhang and make a cut toward the riser and angle your cut left or right which ever way your starting untill you come to the riser and follow it to the end or as close as you can get, then lower the handle of your saw and use the tip of the blade to finish the cut. Then turn around and do the same of the other half of the nose. Don't worry yourself if your not completely flush with the riser, you can go back either with you sawzall, circular saw or jigsaw and flush it up, by then you'll be able to see exactly how much to take off to make things flush. I would start at the bottom step so if there is a small mistake it won't be noticeable. -- for full context, visit http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...se-568353-.htm |
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What tool to use to cut stair nose?
On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 3:44:05 PM UTC-5, Keith wrote:
replying to mp, Keith wrote: The best way I've found, is borrow or buy a sawzall with a course wood cutting blade, look at the face of the overhang and make a cut toward the riser and angle your cut left or right which ever way your starting untill you come to the riser and follow it to the end or as close as you can get, then lower the handle of your saw and use the tip of the blade to finish the cut. Then turn around and do the same of the other half of the nose. Don't worry yourself if your not completely flush with the riser, you can go back either with you sawzall, circular saw or jigsaw and flush it up, by then you'll be able to see exactly how much to take off to make things flush. I would start at the bottom step so if there is a small mistake it won't be noticeable. -- Unfortunately, 12 years ago, mp borrowed a saw and while he was using it to cut some wood, the saw got away from him and cut his head off. It was a terrible tragedy. He was survived by a wife, 4 ex-wives, 22 children and 847 gerbils. The gerbils missed him so much that they all committed suicide by jumping one by one into a meat grinder. It was a tragic mess. 8-( [8~{} Uncle Sad Monster |
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What tool to use to cut stair nose?
On 2016-08-30 5:06 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 3:44:05 PM UTC-5, Keith wrote: replying to mp, Keith wrote: The best way I've found, is borrow or buy a sawzall with a course wood cutting blade, look at the face of the overhang and make a cut toward the riser and angle your cut left or right which ever way your starting untill you come to the riser and follow it to the end or as close as you can get, then lower the handle of your saw and use the tip of the blade to finish the cut. Then turn around and do the same of the other half of the nose. Don't worry yourself if your not completely flush with the riser, you can go back either with you sawzall, circular saw or jigsaw and flush it up, by then you'll be able to see exactly how much to take off to make things flush. I would start at the bottom step so if there is a small mistake it won't be noticeable. -- Unfortunately, 12 years ago, mp borrowed a saw and while he was using it to cut some wood, the saw got away from him and cut his head off. It was a terrible tragedy. He was survived by a wife, 4 ex-wives, 22 children and 847 gerbils. The gerbils missed him so much that they all committed suicide by jumping one by one into a meat grinder. It was a tragic mess. 8-( But his nose rail looks fabulous. :-) -- Froz.... |
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What tool to use to cut stair nose?
replying to someone, Ed M wrote:
How about if you first scribe a line where you want to make your cut, nail a temporary straight edge to the tread as a circular saw guide. Slowly lower your circular saw onto the cutting line and cut as far as you can toward the wall. Finish the cut with an oscillating tool. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...se-568353-.htm |
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What tool to use to cut stair nose?
On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 4:14:05 PM UTC-4, Ed M wrote:
replying to someone, Ed M wrote: How about if you first scribe a line where you want to make your cut, nail a temporary straight edge to the tread as a circular saw guide. Slowly lower your circular saw onto the cutting line and cut as far as you can toward the wall. Finish the cut with an oscillating tool. 13 years later, we have an answer. I'm sure the OP will be very happy to finally get the job completed. |
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What tool to use to cut stair nose?
replying to Dave jackson, gene morgan wrote:
I would consider just applying the thin hardwood on the risers after refinishing the treads if you are determined to use the hardwood( in my opinion stairs look better with stained treads and painted risers ) just saying ... And stairs always look better with a bull nose on the front even when they are carpeted ... Old retired finish carpenter! -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...se-568353-.htm |
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What tool to use to cut stair nose?
replying to DerbyDad03, Graciez wrote:
Would a dremel ultra saw do the job with flush cuts along the riser and against the wall at the end? -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...se-568353-.htm |
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