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1_Patriotic_Gal September 26th 04 05:55 PM

Aaaaaaargh Hot Tub
 
Subject: Aaaaaaargh Hot Tub

Please help me diagnose what is wrong with my hot tub so I know what to
repair/replace. Several days ago I went to get in my spa. When I opened the
cover I found the pump running on high and the water temp above 130 degrees,
wow!

My perception is that someone snuck into the tub, left the pump on high and
the heat of the pump with the cover closed raised the water temperature. I
monitored the spa all day long and ops checked it - all worked fine. This
morning I got in. When I turned up the thermostat the pump low speed light
came on (and the pump high speed light which shouldn't happen) but instead
of the pump coming on low, all I observed was five seconds of humming
followed by a click and silence with no indicator lights. Thinking the
circuit breaker had popped, I ops checked the spa light and airerator which
are on the same circuit, and they worked fine. Next I pushed the console
switch to turn the pump on high speed, again five seconds of humming and
then a click followed by silence. After about sixty seconds of silence,
suddenly the pump comes on high. Had I not already been in the tub, I would
have closed it and later found it "on high at an extreme temperature again".

What is going on and how do I fix it or check what is wrong? I have an
electrical test meter and am used to fixing basic household electrical
problems. The spa definitely uses 220 Volts for heat and I think the pump is
only 110 volts but am unsure as all spa functions are on the same 50 amp
GFCI 220v double pole breaker.

Today I noticed intermittently when the thermostat tries to start the pump
in low speed, both lights (hi & low speed) come on, but there is no water
flow. Other times all worked fine.

Thanks in advance for any and all help on this.

Respectfully,

Andy




1_Patriotic_Guy September 27th 04 07:40 PM

I'm continuing to diagnose the problem -- Typically, resetting the local
circuit breaker on the portable spa returns the spa to normal ops -- I
suspect some electrical component is starting to fail, but how do I
determine which one?
Thanks in advance,
Andy

"1_Patriotic_Gal" wrote in message
nk.net...
Subject: Aaaaaaargh Hot Tub

Please help me diagnose what is wrong with my hot tub so I know what to
repair/replace. Several days ago I went to get in my spa. When I opened

the
cover I found the pump running on high and the water temp above 130

degrees,
wow!

My perception is that someone snuck into the tub, left the pump on high

and
the heat of the pump with the cover closed raised the water temperature. I
monitored the spa all day long and ops checked it - all worked fine. This
morning I got in. When I turned up the thermostat the pump low speed light
came on (and the pump high speed light which shouldn't happen) but instead
of the pump coming on low, all I observed was five seconds of humming
followed by a click and silence with no indicator lights. Thinking the
circuit breaker had popped, I ops checked the spa light and airerator

which
are on the same circuit, and they worked fine. Next I pushed the console
switch to turn the pump on high speed, again five seconds of humming and
then a click followed by silence. After about sixty seconds of silence,
suddenly the pump comes on high. Had I not already been in the tub, I

would
have closed it and later found it "on high at an extreme temperature

again".

What is going on and how do I fix it or check what is wrong? I have an
electrical test meter and am used to fixing basic household electrical
problems. The spa definitely uses 220 Volts for heat and I think the pump

is
only 110 volts but am unsure as all spa functions are on the same 50 amp
GFCI 220v double pole breaker.

Today I noticed intermittently when the thermostat tries to start the pump
in low speed, both lights (hi & low speed) come on, but there is no water
flow. Other times all worked fine.

Thanks in advance for any and all help on this.

Respectfully,

Andy






1_Patriotic_Guy September 28th 04 02:58 AM

Why would both the Hi & Lo speed LED lights come on when only one or the
other should be on -- I checked and re-checked this.

"1_Patriotic_Guy" wrote in message
ink.net...
I'm continuing to diagnose the problem -- Typically, resetting the local
circuit breaker on the portable spa returns the spa to normal ops -- I
suspect some electrical component is starting to fail, but how do I
determine which one?
Thanks in advance,
Andy

"1_Patriotic_Gal" wrote in message
nk.net...
Subject: Aaaaaaargh Hot Tub

Please help me diagnose what is wrong with my hot tub so I know what to
repair/replace. Several days ago I went to get in my spa. When I opened

the
cover I found the pump running on high and the water temp above 130

degrees,
wow!

My perception is that someone snuck into the tub, left the pump on high

and
the heat of the pump with the cover closed raised the water temperature.

I
monitored the spa all day long and ops checked it - all worked fine.

This
morning I got in. When I turned up the thermostat the pump low speed

light
came on (and the pump high speed light which shouldn't happen) but

instead
of the pump coming on low, all I observed was five seconds of humming
followed by a click and silence with no indicator lights. Thinking the
circuit breaker had popped, I ops checked the spa light and airerator

which
are on the same circuit, and they worked fine. Next I pushed the console
switch to turn the pump on high speed, again five seconds of humming and
then a click followed by silence. After about sixty seconds of silence,
suddenly the pump comes on high. Had I not already been in the tub, I

would
have closed it and later found it "on high at an extreme temperature

again".

What is going on and how do I fix it or check what is wrong? I have an
electrical test meter and am used to fixing basic household electrical
problems. The spa definitely uses 220 Volts for heat and I think the

pump
is
only 110 volts but am unsure as all spa functions are on the same 50 amp
GFCI 220v double pole breaker.

Today I noticed intermittently when the thermostat tries to start the

pump
in low speed, both lights (hi & low speed) come on, but there is no

water
flow. Other times all worked fine.

Thanks in advance for any and all help on this.

Respectfully,

Andy








DaveG October 2nd 04 08:12 PM


"1_Patriotic_Guy" wrote in message
link.net...
Why would both the Hi & Lo speed LED lights come on when only one or the
other should be on -- I checked and re-checked this.

"1_Patriotic_Guy" wrote in message
ink.net...
I'm continuing to diagnose the problem -- Typically, resetting the local
circuit breaker on the portable spa returns the spa to normal ops -- I
suspect some electrical component is starting to fail, but how do I
determine which one?
Thanks in advance,
Andy

"1_Patriotic_Gal" wrote in message
nk.net...
Subject: Aaaaaaargh Hot Tub

Please help me diagnose what is wrong with my hot tub so I know what to
repair/replace. Several days ago I went to get in my spa. When I opened

the
cover I found the pump running on high and the water temp above 130

degrees,
wow!

My perception is that someone snuck into the tub, left the pump on high

and
the heat of the pump with the cover closed raised the water
temperature.

I
monitored the spa all day long and ops checked it - all worked fine.

This
morning I got in. When I turned up the thermostat the pump low speed

light
came on (and the pump high speed light which shouldn't happen) but

instead
of the pump coming on low, all I observed was five seconds of humming
followed by a click and silence with no indicator lights. Thinking the
circuit breaker had popped, I ops checked the spa light and airerator

which
are on the same circuit, and they worked fine. Next I pushed the
console
switch to turn the pump on high speed, again five seconds of humming
and
then a click followed by silence. After about sixty seconds of silence,
suddenly the pump comes on high. Had I not already been in the tub, I

would
have closed it and later found it "on high at an extreme temperature

again".

What is going on and how do I fix it or check what is wrong? I have an
electrical test meter and am used to fixing basic household electrical
problems. The spa definitely uses 220 Volts for heat and I think the

pump
is
only 110 volts but am unsure as all spa functions are on the same 50
amp
GFCI 220v double pole breaker.

Today I noticed intermittently when the thermostat tries to start the

pump
in low speed, both lights (hi & low speed) come on, but there is no

water
flow. Other times all worked fine.

Thanks in advance for any and all help on this.

Respectfully,

Andy


I would call in a qualified spa tech at this point.









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