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My Kenmore diswasher (665.17779990) started acting up last month. When I'd
push start, nothing would happen. Lights would blink on and off. I finally
could get it to run by pushing "normal wash." But it would start and stop
during rinse cycle.

An appliance repair person told me that there was a 90% chance that it was a
bad computer board that was causing the problem. He asked if the lights on
the display appeared dim even when not lit. I said they did. He said for
sure it was a bad computer board.

So I thought I'd fix it myself. Went down to the parts place and got a new
one. Installed it. Same problems. Figured it might be defective and went
down to get another one. Installed it. Same problems.

My friend was wrong, it appears. Could somebody please tell me what might
be wrong with my dishwasher?

Thanks!


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My Kenmore diswasher (665.17779990) started acting up last month. When I'd
push start, nothing would happen. Lights would blink on and off. I finally
could get it to run by pushing "normal wash." But it would start and stop
during rinse cycle.

An appliance repair person told me that there was a 90% chance that it was a
bad computer board that was causing the problem. He asked if the lights on
the display appeared dim even when not lit. I said they did. He said for
sure it was a bad computer board.

So I thought I'd fix it myself. Went down to the parts place and got a new
one. Installed it. Same problems. Figured it might be defective and went
down to get another one. Installed it. Same problems.

My friend was wrong, it appears. Could somebody please tell me what might
be wrong with my dishwasher?

Thanks!


Hi,

I have read about but not seen the key panal giving problems like
yours
A few techs in this forum have mentioned it before. There -should- be
a tech sheet inside to help diagnose/check the main control board and
key panal.

http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=153&N=777021
Touchpad & control panel assembly, black
http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=153&N=786224
Touchpad & control panel assembly, white
http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=153&N=827975
Touchpad & control panel assembly, almond

From what I have read about some of these newer Whirlpool built
Kenmore ( 665.######## ) dishwashers, pressure switch, key panal,
smart board are common trouble makers and the main power comming into
the unit should be checked....if the power supply is higher thna
normal or lower than normal the unit objects as well.

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/
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Jeff,

Thanks so much for the help. How would I go about checking the power supply
coming into the unit? Would this be a problem with the circuit breaker?
Would I put a new one in to fix this problem?

Thanks again,
Bill



"jeff" wrote in message
om...
"Bill & Kelly Peterson" wrote in message

link.net...
My Kenmore diswasher (665.17779990) started acting up last month. When

I'd
push start, nothing would happen. Lights would blink on and off. I

finally
could get it to run by pushing "normal wash." But it would start and

stop
during rinse cycle.

An appliance repair person told me that there was a 90% chance that it

was a
bad computer board that was causing the problem. He asked if the lights

on
the display appeared dim even when not lit. I said they did. He said

for
sure it was a bad computer board.

So I thought I'd fix it myself. Went down to the parts place and got a

new
one. Installed it. Same problems. Figured it might be defective and

went
down to get another one. Installed it. Same problems.

My friend was wrong, it appears. Could somebody please tell me what

might
be wrong with my dishwasher?

Thanks!


Hi,

I have read about but not seen the key panal giving problems like
yours
A few techs in this forum have mentioned it before. There -should- be
a tech sheet inside to help diagnose/check the main control board and
key panal.

http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=153&N=777021
Touchpad & control panel assembly, black
http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=153&N=786224
Touchpad & control panel assembly, white
http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=153&N=827975
Touchpad & control panel assembly, almond

From what I have read about some of these newer Whirlpool built
Kenmore ( 665.######## ) dishwashers, pressure switch, key panal,
smart board are common trouble makers and the main power comming into
the unit should be checked....if the power supply is higher thna
normal or lower than normal the unit objects as well.

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/



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Can power be lowered, so it doesn't fry my machine? :-)

Thanks!


Hi,


Whirlpool ( makers of KA ) had just put out a note, a copy:


STOPS IN MID-CYCLE, INDICATOR LIGHTS BLINKING
Dishwasher will stop in mid-cycle and will not advance.
One or more of the cycle, option and status indicator lights
will blink.
CAUSE:
The electronic control is reacting to higher than normal
line voltage, (over 125 volts), and higher than normal line
signal distortion that exists in some parts of the country.


A simple volt meter on the incomming power at the power box should do fine
to check ( http://www.applianceaid.com/newimages/dwwires.jpg ) the power
supply.


**Would this be a problem with the circuit breaker?**


Probably not.


Some places/area's just have a little higher volatge than others do. These
electronic controls are going to break us ( $$ ) with how finicky they

are!!


jeff.





"Bill & Kelly Peterson" wrote in message
ink.net...
Jeff,

Thanks so much for the help. How would I go about checking the power

supply
coming into the unit? Would this be a problem with the circuit breaker?
Would I put a new one in to fix this problem?

Thanks again,
Bill



"jeff" wrote in message
om...
"Bill & Kelly Peterson" wrote in message

link.net...
My Kenmore diswasher (665.17779990) started acting up last month.

When
I'd
push start, nothing would happen. Lights would blink on and off. I

finally
could get it to run by pushing "normal wash." But it would start and

stop
during rinse cycle.

An appliance repair person told me that there was a 90% chance that it

was a
bad computer board that was causing the problem. He asked if the

lights
on
the display appeared dim even when not lit. I said they did. He said

for
sure it was a bad computer board.

So I thought I'd fix it myself. Went down to the parts place and got

a
new
one. Installed it. Same problems. Figured it might be defective and

went
down to get another one. Installed it. Same problems.

My friend was wrong, it appears. Could somebody please tell me what

might
be wrong with my dishwasher?

Thanks!


Hi,

I have read about but not seen the key panal giving problems like
yours
A few techs in this forum have mentioned it before. There -should- be
a tech sheet inside to help diagnose/check the main control board and
key panal.

http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=153&N=777021
Touchpad & control panel assembly, black
http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=153&N=786224
Touchpad & control panel assembly, white
http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=153&N=827975
Touchpad & control panel assembly, almond

From what I have read about some of these newer Whirlpool built
Kenmore ( 665.######## ) dishwashers, pressure switch, key panal,
smart board are common trouble makers and the main power comming into
the unit should be checked....if the power supply is higher thna
normal or lower than normal the unit objects as well.

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/





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My electrician friend says that if the power were too high, that there are
appliances and other electronic equipment in a house, MUCH more sensitive
than a dishwasher, that would not function. (IE: computer, television,
microwave). He says if those are working well, then the dishwasher should
be, too.

He figures it is a panel problem, therefore. This shows you what appliance
repair people know. (Except for Jeff, of course!)

Moral to story: If your Kenmore is blinking, get a new panel. The end. ;-)

Bill



Hi,


Usually the street transformer can be adjusted ( turned up or turned

down )
by the hydro company.


jeff.



"Bill & Kelly Peterson" wrote in message
ink.net...
Can power be lowered, so it doesn't fry my machine? :-)

Thanks!


Hi,


Whirlpool ( makers of KA ) had just put out a note, a copy:


STOPS IN MID-CYCLE, INDICATOR LIGHTS BLINKING
Dishwasher will stop in mid-cycle and will not advance.
One or more of the cycle, option and status indicator lights
will blink.
CAUSE:
The electronic control is reacting to higher than normal
line voltage, (over 125 volts), and higher than normal line
signal distortion that exists in some parts of the country.


A simple volt meter on the incomming power at the power box should do

fine
to check ( http://www.applianceaid.com/newimages/dwwires.jpg ) the power
supply.


**Would this be a problem with the circuit breaker?**


Probably not.


Some places/area's just have a little higher volatge than others do.

These
electronic controls are going to break us ( $$ ) with how finicky they

are!!


jeff.





"Bill & Kelly Peterson" wrote in message
ink.net...
Jeff,

Thanks so much for the help. How would I go about checking the power

supply
coming into the unit? Would this be a problem with the circuit breaker?
Would I put a new one in to fix this problem?

Thanks again,
Bill



"jeff" wrote in message
om...
"Bill & Kelly Peterson" wrote in message

link.net...
My Kenmore diswasher (665.17779990) started acting up last month.

When
I'd
push start, nothing would happen. Lights would blink on and off. I

finally
could get it to run by pushing "normal wash." But it would start

and
stop
during rinse cycle.

An appliance repair person told me that there was a 90% chance that

it
was a
bad computer board that was causing the problem. He asked if the

lights
on
the display appeared dim even when not lit. I said they did. He

said
for
sure it was a bad computer board.

So I thought I'd fix it myself. Went down to the parts place and

got
a
new
one. Installed it. Same problems. Figured it might be defective

and
went
down to get another one. Installed it. Same problems.

My friend was wrong, it appears. Could somebody please tell me what

might
be wrong with my dishwasher?

Thanks!

Hi,

I have read about but not seen the key panal giving problems like
yours
A few techs in this forum have mentioned it before. There -should- be
a tech sheet inside to help diagnose/check the main control board and
key panal.

http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=153&N=777021
Touchpad & control panel assembly, black
http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=153&N=786224
Touchpad & control panel assembly, white
http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=153&N=827975
Touchpad & control panel assembly, almond

From what I have read about some of these newer Whirlpool built
Kenmore ( 665.######## ) dishwashers, pressure switch, key panal,
smart board are common trouble makers and the main power comming into
the unit should be checked....if the power supply is higher thna
normal or lower than normal the unit objects as well.

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/









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"Bill & Kelly Peterson" wrote in message link.net...
My electrician friend says that if the power were too high, that there are
appliances and other electronic equipment in a house, MUCH more sensitive
than a dishwasher, that would not function. (IE: computer, television,
microwave). He says if those are working well, then the dishwasher should
be, too.

He figures it is a panel problem, therefore. This shows you what appliance
repair people know. (Except for Jeff, of course!)

Moral to story: If your Kenmore is blinking, get a new panel. The end. ;-)

Bill


Hi,

WLP came out with new boards ( which you probably got when you
replaced it ) to help handle any lower or higher than normal power
supplies...the original style board could not.

Have you tried the new key panal? Let us know how it goes

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/
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Sears came out today to fix the Kenmore dishwasher. It was the key panel.
Repairman said it is the key panel 99% of the time.

Just so everybody will know for the future. Made a point to post this to
save people some agony. Smart board has nothing to do with it, the Sears
repairman said.

Bill


"jeff" wrote in message
om...
"Bill & Kelly Peterson" wrote in message

link.net...
My electrician friend says that if the power were too high, that there

are
appliances and other electronic equipment in a house, MUCH more

sensitive
than a dishwasher, that would not function. (IE: computer, television,
microwave). He says if those are working well, then the dishwasher

should
be, too.

He figures it is a panel problem, therefore. This shows you what

appliance
repair people know. (Except for Jeff, of course!)

Moral to story: If your Kenmore is blinking, get a new panel. The end.

;-)

Bill


Hi,

WLP came out with new boards ( which you probably got when you
replaced it ) to help handle any lower or higher than normal power
supplies...the original style board could not.

Have you tried the new key panal? Let us know how it goes

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/



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"Bill & Kelly Peterson" wrote in message link.net...
Sears came out today to fix the Kenmore dishwasher. It was the key panel.
Repairman said it is the key panel 99% of the time.

Just so everybody will know for the future. Made a point to post this to
save people some agony. Smart board has nothing to do with it, the Sears
repairman said.

Bill


Thankx for the update!!

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/
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