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stepdawn September 14th 04 02:51 AM

Need advice - getting exterior of house painted
 
I checked Google groups and this group to see if my questions have been
answered and didn't find what I was looking for.

I am in Southern Arizona, Tucson to be exact. We're at about 2300 feet,
with temps ranging from around 20 degrees F to 110 degrees F. We have a 2-3
month monsoon season during which the dew point is over 50 on a daily basis,
but the remainder of the year is fairly dry.

We have a 2300 sq. ft. one story stucco house with wood facia. The house
was built in 2001, so the wall paint is still ok, but the trim is starting
to look pretty bad, and cracking in spots. The sun is brutal here. We also
have some efflorescence on all sides except the north.

I just got a bid from a highly recommended painter for $2675 for the entire
house (trim and walls). This includes caulking, stucco repairs, facia
repairs, drywall repairs, power wash, masking, trenching, and spot priming
as needed.

He wants to use Sherwin Williams A-100 line, satin finish on facia and all
trim (doors, etc) and flat on the rest. I should mention that part of the
trim would be stucco because we have this raised detail work along the
bottom part of the house in the front. I don't know how to describe that
better.

I have been told by the Dunn Edwards dealer in town that using satin finish
on trim is a bad idea because it will not hold up as well. Is this true?

Also, should we choose a different paint? I will pay more to get the best
possible paint for my situation. I don't want this job looking bad in a
couple of years.

Thanks very much for any advice, and apologies because I know it's all been
asked before.

Dawn




Wayne September 14th 04 04:18 AM

the a-100 line is not listed for stucco on their web site they do list this

http://www2.sherwin-williams.com/Pro...es/default.asp

The result of advances in acrylic technology. Duration uses PermaLast
technology to provide you with the most durable and longest lasting coating
available for protecting the outside of your home. .Performance: One Coat
Protection - Self-Priming - Easy Application - Superior Hiding - Thicker -
More Flexible. Resists Blistering and Peeling. Protects: Home Windows,
Gutters and Trim, Architectural plastics, such as shutters & gutters.
Surfaces: Wood - Stucco - Masonry/Cement Composition Panels - Aluminum
Siding - Vinyl Siding - Galvanized Metal. Mildew Resistant. This coating
contains agents that inhibit the growth of mildew on the surface of this
coating.

Wayne

"stepdawn" wrote in message
news:78s1d.37767$9Y5.10358@fed1read02...
I checked Google groups and this group to see if my questions have been
answered and didn't find what I was looking for.

I am in Southern Arizona, Tucson to be exact. We're at about 2300 feet,
with temps ranging from around 20 degrees F to 110 degrees F. We have a
2-3
month monsoon season during which the dew point is over 50 on a daily
basis,
but the remainder of the year is fairly dry.

We have a 2300 sq. ft. one story stucco house with wood facia. The house
was built in 2001, so the wall paint is still ok, but the trim is starting
to look pretty bad, and cracking in spots. The sun is brutal here. We
also
have some efflorescence on all sides except the north.

I just got a bid from a highly recommended painter for $2675 for the
entire
house (trim and walls). This includes caulking, stucco repairs, facia
repairs, drywall repairs, power wash, masking, trenching, and spot priming
as needed.

He wants to use Sherwin Williams A-100 line, satin finish on facia and all
trim (doors, etc) and flat on the rest. I should mention that part of the
trim would be stucco because we have this raised detail work along the
bottom part of the house in the front. I don't know how to describe that
better.

I have been told by the Dunn Edwards dealer in town that using satin
finish
on trim is a bad idea because it will not hold up as well. Is this true?

Also, should we choose a different paint? I will pay more to get the best
possible paint for my situation. I don't want this job looking bad in a
couple of years.

Thanks very much for any advice, and apologies because I know it's all
been
asked before.

Dawn






Wayne September 14th 04 04:19 AM

found this chart also

http://www.sherwin-williams.com/diy/...tratechart.asp

Wayne

"stepdawn" wrote in message
news:78s1d.37767$9Y5.10358@fed1read02...
I checked Google groups and this group to see if my questions have been
answered and didn't find what I was looking for.

I am in Southern Arizona, Tucson to be exact. We're at about 2300 feet,
with temps ranging from around 20 degrees F to 110 degrees F. We have a
2-3
month monsoon season during which the dew point is over 50 on a daily
basis,
but the remainder of the year is fairly dry.

We have a 2300 sq. ft. one story stucco house with wood facia. The house
was built in 2001, so the wall paint is still ok, but the trim is starting
to look pretty bad, and cracking in spots. The sun is brutal here. We
also
have some efflorescence on all sides except the north.

I just got a bid from a highly recommended painter for $2675 for the
entire
house (trim and walls). This includes caulking, stucco repairs, facia
repairs, drywall repairs, power wash, masking, trenching, and spot priming
as needed.

He wants to use Sherwin Williams A-100 line, satin finish on facia and all
trim (doors, etc) and flat on the rest. I should mention that part of the
trim would be stucco because we have this raised detail work along the
bottom part of the house in the front. I don't know how to describe that
better.

I have been told by the Dunn Edwards dealer in town that using satin
finish
on trim is a bad idea because it will not hold up as well. Is this true?

Also, should we choose a different paint? I will pay more to get the best
possible paint for my situation. I don't want this job looking bad in a
couple of years.

Thanks very much for any advice, and apologies because I know it's all
been
asked before.

Dawn






stepdawn September 14th 04 04:26 AM


"Wayne" wrote in message
news:Upt1d.189443$mD.24950@attbi_s02...
the a-100 line is not listed for stucco on their web site they do list

this

http://www2.sherwin-williams.com/Pro...es/default.asp

The result of advances in acrylic technology. Duration uses PermaLast
technology to provide you with the most durable and longest lasting

coating
available for protecting the outside of your home. .Performance: One Coat
Protection - Self-Priming - Easy Application - Superior Hiding - Thicker -
More Flexible. Resists Blistering and Peeling. Protects: Home Windows,
Gutters and Trim, Architectural plastics, such as shutters & gutters.
Surfaces: Wood - Stucco - Masonry/Cement Composition Panels - Aluminum
Siding - Vinyl Siding - Galvanized Metal. Mildew Resistant. This coating
contains agents that inhibit the growth of mildew on the surface of this
coating.

Wayne

Thanks, Wayne. In the chart you sent, the A-100 is listed for stucco, but I
do like the sound of the Duration better. I am going to see what his price
quote would be for that. But I have heard that Sherwin Williams has gone
down in quality, so I am hoping that someone will chime in with an opinion
on that.



wayne September 14th 04 01:29 PM

check consumer reports and see if they have done any recent tests

Found this site

http://www.factsfacts.com/MyHomeRepa...eriorPaint.htm

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load...034562452.html

Wayne

"stepdawn" wrote in message
news:7xt1d.37788$9Y5.29312@fed1read02...

"Wayne" wrote in message
news:Upt1d.189443$mD.24950@attbi_s02...
the a-100 line is not listed for stucco on their web site they do list

this

http://www2.sherwin-williams.com/Pro...es/default.asp

The result of advances in acrylic technology. Duration uses PermaLast
technology to provide you with the most durable and longest lasting

coating
available for protecting the outside of your home. .Performance: One Coat
Protection - Self-Priming - Easy Application - Superior Hiding -
Thicker -
More Flexible. Resists Blistering and Peeling. Protects: Home Windows,
Gutters and Trim, Architectural plastics, such as shutters & gutters.
Surfaces: Wood - Stucco - Masonry/Cement Composition Panels - Aluminum
Siding - Vinyl Siding - Galvanized Metal. Mildew Resistant. This coating
contains agents that inhibit the growth of mildew on the surface of this
coating.

Wayne

Thanks, Wayne. In the chart you sent, the A-100 is listed for stucco, but
I
do like the sound of the Duration better. I am going to see what his
price
quote would be for that. But I have heard that Sherwin Williams has gone
down in quality, so I am hoping that someone will chime in with an opinion
on that.





SQLit September 14th 04 04:42 PM


"stepdawn" wrote in message
news:78s1d.37767$9Y5.10358@fed1read02...
I checked Google groups and this group to see if my questions have been
answered and didn't find what I was looking for.

I am in Southern Arizona, Tucson to be exact. We're at about 2300 feet,
with temps ranging from around 20 degrees F to 110 degrees F. We have a

2-3
month monsoon season during which the dew point is over 50 on a daily

basis,
but the remainder of the year is fairly dry.

We have a 2300 sq. ft. one story stucco house with wood facia. The house
was built in 2001, so the wall paint is still ok, but the trim is starting
to look pretty bad, and cracking in spots. The sun is brutal here. We

also
have some efflorescence on all sides except the north.

I just got a bid from a highly recommended painter for $2675 for the

entire
house (trim and walls). This includes caulking, stucco repairs, facia
repairs, drywall repairs, power wash, masking, trenching, and spot priming
as needed.

He wants to use Sherwin Williams A-100 line, satin finish on facia and all
trim (doors, etc) and flat on the rest. I should mention that part of the
trim would be stucco because we have this raised detail work along the
bottom part of the house in the front. I don't know how to describe that
better.

I have been told by the Dunn Edwards dealer in town that using satin

finish
on trim is a bad idea because it will not hold up as well. Is this true?

Also, should we choose a different paint? I will pay more to get the best
possible paint for my situation. I don't want this job looking bad in a
couple of years.

Thanks very much for any advice, and apologies because I know it's all

been
asked before.

Dawn


I have no clue about the satin finish other than to note there are no new
homes here in Phoenix that have satin on the trim, all flat. If you have an
HOA you had better check with them about colors. Mine gets really ****y
about that.

I found this link but have not gotten an answer to my direct questions about
the product.
http://hytechsales.com/buy_ceramicadditive.html

I do have a friend that had her home painted with something similar. But the
daughter moved back in and now the previous energy consumption is out the
window.
I am some what skeptical about this. How can anything so thin, 20-40 mills
help a lot.

Anyone try this or something like it?



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