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Dean Hoffman[_18_] June 10th 21 10:35 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html

[email protected] June 11th 21 01:56 AM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.

Dean Hoffman[_18_] June 11th 21 02:24 AM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.


Real estate taxes are going to jump. Insurance rates also.

Ed Pawlowski[_3_] June 11th 21 03:21 AM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On 6/10/2021 9:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.


Real estate taxes are going to jump. Insurance rates also.

Tax RATES should go down if the assessment goes up. Insurance for
replacement would go up.

Ed Pawlowski[_3_] June 11th 21 03:25 AM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On 6/10/2021 8:56 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.


That is a good point. My house is 2 1/2 years old and at the price I
could sell it for now, to me, is not a good value. My income did not
change so from a buyer POV, not so good.

micky June 11th 21 03:25 AM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


I don't think anyone will pay 2 trillion for my house.

Ed Pawlowski[_3_] June 11th 21 04:05 AM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On 6/10/2021 10:25 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


I don't think anyone will pay 2 trillion for my house.


The way things are going, maybe they will next year.

I sold, then bought a new house. Looking at Zillow, the house I sold is
value at 30k more in 2 1/2 years. While the extra would be nice, it
does not cover the 60k+ the house I bought went up in the same time.

I'm staying with a friend in NJ this week. Her place jumped at least
500K in the past year. She does not rent her place out but if she did,
it would get 15K a week.

Bob F June 11th 21 05:35 AM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On 6/10/2021 7:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/10/2021 9:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.


Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Real estate taxes are going to jump.Â* Insurance rates also.

Tax RATES should go down if the assessment goes up.Â* Insurance for
replacement would go up.


Tell us someplace where that happens.


MikeJ[_4_] June 11th 21 06:34 AM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
micky wrote in
:

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ers-America-go
t-2T-richer-months-year.html


I don't think anyone will pay 2 trillion for my house.


Nice. Very nice!

trader_4 June 11th 21 01:55 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 12:35:55 AM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
On 6/10/2021 7:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/10/2021 9:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.

Real estate taxes are going to jump. Insurance rates also.

Tax RATES should go down if the assessment goes up. Insurance for
replacement would go up.

Tell us someplace where that happens.


It happens here every time they do a reassessment, which is maybe every ten years
or so. What do you think happens? Properties go up on average say 50% and they use
those new numbers with the old tax rate? Suddenly the municipality would have
50% more revenue, if the poor slobs could pay their bills. It doesn't work that way.
The new tax rate is set so that the total revenue from the new assessment stays the same.






Ed Pawlowski[_3_] June 11th 21 02:05 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On 6/11/2021 12:35 AM, Bob F wrote:
On 6/10/2021 7:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/10/2021 9:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Real estate taxes are going to jump.Â* Insurance rates also.

Tax RATES should go down if the assessment goes up.Â* Insurance for
replacement would go up.


Tell us someplace where that happens.


Putnam CT. The mill rate for taxes is set by factoring the value of the
properties assess and the town budget. When they did the reassessment
each time the tax RATE was reduced to reflect it.

The last time it was done, industrial/commercial properties went up a
bit more that residential and my house tax actually went down a few bucks.

If you assume it it going up, the town may oblige you. We had people
concerned and watching for that.

Most towns/cities have regulations on how it works and just because
value goes up, no windfall.

Frank[_24_] June 11th 21 02:16 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On 6/11/2021 1:34 AM, MikeJ wrote:
micky wrote in
:

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ers-America-go
t-2T-richer-months-year.html


I don't think anyone will pay 2 trillion for my house.


Nice. Very nice!


I just googled my address and looked at the Zillow estimate. It is
unreal and claims it went up $17,000 in one month.

Inflation is running 5% and some moron said it is only 3% if you
discount fuel and food.

Ed Pawlowski[_3_] June 11th 21 03:22 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On 6/11/2021 9:16 AM, Frank wrote:
On 6/11/2021 1:34 AM, MikeJ wrote:
micky wrote in
:

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ers-America-go
t-2T-richer-months-year.html

I don't think anyone will pay 2 trillion for my house.


Nice. Very nice!


I just googled my address and looked at the Zillow estimate.Â* It is
unreal and claims it went up $17,000 in one month.

Inflation is running 5% and some moron said it is only 3% if you
discount fuel and food.


A week or so ago CBS Sunday Morning did a segment on housing. Crazy.
Houses listed for 400k had eight bitters and it sold for 500k. an open
house had a line of people waiting to go through and 50 cars down the
street.

My neighbor sold his house in one day. Listed and advertised on Day
one, sold above listed price by 10k the next day.

Scott Lurndal June 11th 21 03:23 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
trader_4 writes:
On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 12:35:55 AM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
On 6/10/2021 7:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/10/2021 9:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.

Real estate taxes are going to jump. Insurance rates also.

Tax RATES should go down if the assessment goes up. Insurance for
replacement would go up.

Tell us someplace where that happens.


It happens here every time they do a reassessment, which is maybe every ten years
or so.


That is highly locality dependent. Some progressive states have a 1%
tax rate. It never changes. The assessment can go up by no more than 2% p.a. and
is only reasssed on an ownership change.

The rate never changes.

[email protected] June 11th 21 04:04 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 21:35:49 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 6/10/2021 7:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/10/2021 9:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Real estate taxes are going to jump.Â* Insurance rates also.

Tax RATES should go down if the assessment goes up.Â* Insurance for
replacement would go up.


Tell us someplace where that happens.


Exactly. Rates virtually never go down.
What they do here is reduce the effective assessment when there is a
bubble so they don't need to raise the rate if there is a decline in
retail price. We also have SOH for homesteaded properties that caps
increases to 3%

[email protected] June 11th 21 04:10 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:23:37 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

trader_4 writes:
On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 12:35:55 AM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
On 6/10/2021 7:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/10/2021 9:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.

Real estate taxes are going to jump. Insurance rates also.

Tax RATES should go down if the assessment goes up. Insurance for
replacement would go up.
Tell us someplace where that happens.


It happens here every time they do a reassessment, which is maybe every ten years
or so.


That is highly locality dependent. Some progressive states have a 1%
tax rate. It never changes. The assessment can go up by no more than 2% p.a. and
is only reasssed on an ownership change.

The rate never changes.


The thing that changes the millage most places in Florida is new
taxing "districts" (things like Mosquito Control and hyacinth
control). They add another service, call it a taxing district and it
shows up on your tax bill as a new charge. Your base rate stays the
same.

Tekkie© June 11th 21 07:09 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman posted for all of us to
digest...


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


Home values are like the stock market to me. It only matters when one sells.
Selling can be planned or unintentional. I am no financial wizard nor pretend
to be one on the inet.

--
Tekkie

Tekkie© June 11th 21 07:10 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 18:24:46 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman posted for all of us to
digest...


On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.


Real estate taxes are going to jump. Insurance rates also.


That's for sure - for both. Inflation is already here...

--
Tekkie

trader_4 June 11th 21 07:30 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 11:04:49 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 21:35:49 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 6/10/2021 7:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/10/2021 9:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.

Real estate taxes are going to jump. Insurance rates also.

Tax RATES should go down if the assessment goes up. Insurance for
replacement would go up.


Tell us someplace where that happens.

Exactly. Rates virtually never go down.


They do here, every time there is a revaluation. It's what fair and reasonable
places across America do when they revalue properties every ten years or so.
Florida may be an exception.


What they do here is reduce the effective assessment when there is a
bubble so they don't need to raise the rate if there is a decline in
retail price. We also have SOH for homesteaded properties that caps
increases to 3%


I see, so instead of adjusting the rate, they fiddle with the assessment.
Sounds stupid and backwards to me.



Bob F June 11th 21 08:09 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On 6/11/2021 6:05 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/11/2021 12:35 AM, Bob F wrote:
On 6/10/2021 7:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/10/2021 9:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Real estate taxes are going to jump.Â* Insurance rates also.

Tax RATES should go down if the assessment goes up.Â* Insurance for
replacement would go up.


Tell us someplace where that happens.


Putnam CT.Â* The mill rate for taxes is set by factoring the value of the
properties assess and the town budget.Â* When they did the reassessment
each time the tax RATE was reduced to reflect it.

The last time it was done, industrial/commercial properties went up a
bit more that residential and my house tax actually went down a few bucks.

If you assume it it going up, the town may oblige you.Â* We had people
concerned and watching for that.

Most towns/cities have regulations on how it works and just because
value goes up, no windfall.


Amazing. I've never heard of it being done like that.

Bob F June 11th 21 08:14 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On 6/11/2021 7:23 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
trader_4 writes:
On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 12:35:55 AM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
On 6/10/2021 7:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/10/2021 9:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.

Real estate taxes are going to jump. Insurance rates also.

Tax RATES should go down if the assessment goes up. Insurance for
replacement would go up.
Tell us someplace where that happens.


It happens here every time they do a reassessment, which is maybe every ten years
or so.


That is highly locality dependent. Some progressive states have a 1%
tax rate. It never changes. The assessment can go up by no more than 2% p.a. and
is only reasssed on an ownership change.


Is that CA? That's the only place I know that does not raise taxes
except for new buyers.


The rate never changes.



Ralph Mowery[_3_] June 11th 21 09:25 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
In article ,
says...

They do here, every time there is a revaluation. It's what fair and reasonable
places across America do when they revalue properties every ten years or so.
Florida may be an exception.




In a large city near me the property values are going way up. Damn
Yankeys moving in. There is a housing shortage and they often sell
their house for way more than the same house around here would have
cost.

Some low income areas where the houses may be worth $ 75,000 at most are
new valued at ovre $ 300,000 just becuse of the land value. Taxes are
forcing many to move out as they can not affored the tax on a $ 300,000
house that should be less than $ 75,000.



Ed Pawlowski[_3_] June 11th 21 09:49 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On 6/11/2021 3:09 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 6/11/2021 6:05 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/11/2021 12:35 AM, Bob F wrote:
On 6/10/2021 7:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/10/2021 9:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Real estate taxes are going to jump.Â* Insurance rates also.

Tax RATES should go down if the assessment goes up.Â* Insurance for
replacement would go up.

Tell us someplace where that happens.


Putnam CT.Â* The mill rate for taxes is set by factoring the value of
the properties assess and the town budget.Â* When they did the
reassessment each time the tax RATE was reduced to reflect it.

The last time it was done, industrial/commercial properties went up a
bit more that residential and my house tax actually went down a few
bucks.

If you assume it it going up, the town may oblige you.Â* We had people
concerned and watching for that.

Most towns/cities have regulations on how it works and just because
value goes up, no windfall.


Amazing. I've never heard of it being done like that.


Simple math. You have assessment, budget, tax rate. They work
together. Total assessed value divided by budget = tax mil rate. The
fact that the value of houses increases does not trigger a tax rate
change, the town/city budget does that.

Sure, some towns may slip a few things in since people don't know what
is going on and expect a tax increase, so lets give it to them.

Be sure to attend some of the town meetings too when budget talks come
up. Citizens have to watch.

[email protected] June 12th 21 12:15 AM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:30:30 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 11:04:49 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 21:35:49 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 6/10/2021 7:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/10/2021 9:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.

Real estate taxes are going to jump. Insurance rates also.

Tax RATES should go down if the assessment goes up. Insurance for
replacement would go up.

Tell us someplace where that happens.

Exactly. Rates virtually never go down.


They do here, every time there is a revaluation. It's what fair and reasonable
places across America do when they revalue properties every ten years or so.
Florida may be an exception.

Properties get appraised annually here.


What they do here is reduce the effective assessment when there is a
bubble so they don't need to raise the rate if there is a decline in
retail price. We also have SOH for homesteaded properties that caps
increases to 3%


I see, so instead of adjusting the rate, they fiddle with the assessment.
Sounds stupid and backwards to me.

Why? The rate is the rate and the tax is based on the value of the
property. Why juggle the rates when they have a recent assessment.,
Maybe your bureaucratic inertia is too slow up there to do appraisals
annually but in volatile markets it is the only way to be fair.
We have some areas that sales prices could easily double or more in 10
years. Other places might be damn near static, particularly for a land
locked preFIRM house in a mediocre neighborhood. If you juggle the
rates, you are screwing the working man in that house that is worth
little more than he paid for it while the fat cat in the gated
community or on the water saw a double. It would be a
disproportionate tax hike on the working guy and a tax break for the
fat cat. You really are a Democrat now.

[email protected] June 12th 21 12:17 AM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:14:06 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 6/11/2021 7:23 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
trader_4 writes:
On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 12:35:55 AM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
On 6/10/2021 7:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/10/2021 9:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.

Real estate taxes are going to jump. Insurance rates also.

Tax RATES should go down if the assessment goes up. Insurance for
replacement would go up.
Tell us someplace where that happens.

It happens here every time they do a reassessment, which is maybe every ten years
or so.


That is highly locality dependent. Some progressive states have a 1%
tax rate. It never changes. The assessment can go up by no more than 2% p.a. and
is only reasssed on an ownership change.


Is that CA? That's the only place I know that does not raise taxes
except for new buyers.


Add Florida to that list and I bet there are more. The appraisals are
capped at 3% a year here.

Tekkie© June 12th 21 08:11 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 

On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 16:49:24 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 6/11/2021 3:09 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 6/11/2021 6:05 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/11/2021 12:35 AM, Bob F wrote:
On 6/10/2021 7:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/10/2021 9:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.

******** Real estate taxes are going to jump.* Insurance rates also.

Tax RATES should go down if the assessment goes up.* Insurance for
replacement would go up.

Tell us someplace where that happens.


Putnam CT.* The mill rate for taxes is set by factoring the value of
the properties assess and the town budget.* When they did the
reassessment each time the tax RATE was reduced to reflect it.

The last time it was done, industrial/commercial properties went up a
bit more that residential and my house tax actually went down a few
bucks.

If you assume it it going up, the town may oblige you.* We had people
concerned and watching for that.

Most towns/cities have regulations on how it works and just because
value goes up, no windfall.


Amazing. I've never heard of it being done like that.


Simple math. You have assessment, budget, tax rate. They work
together. Total assessed value divided by budget = tax mil rate. The
fact that the value of houses increases does not trigger a tax rate
change, the town/city budget does that.

Sure, some towns may slip a few things in since people don't know what
is going on and expect a tax increase, so lets give it to them.

Be sure to attend some of the town meetings too when budget talks come
up. Citizens have to watch.


+1 It's easier to control the local critters.

Don't forget the school board, that's the main expense around here.

Look at your tax bill and see who is reaching into your pocket.

--
Tekkie

Frank[_24_] June 12th 21 09:00 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On 6/12/2021 3:11 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 16:49:24 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 6/11/2021 3:09 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 6/11/2021 6:05 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/11/2021 12:35 AM, Bob F wrote:
On 6/10/2021 7:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/10/2021 9:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Real estate taxes are going to jump.Â* Insurance rates also.

Tax RATES should go down if the assessment goes up.Â* Insurance for
replacement would go up.

Tell us someplace where that happens.


Putnam CT.Â* The mill rate for taxes is set by factoring the value of
the properties assess and the town budget.Â* When they did the
reassessment each time the tax RATE was reduced to reflect it.

The last time it was done, industrial/commercial properties went up a
bit more that residential and my house tax actually went down a few
bucks.

If you assume it it going up, the town may oblige you.Â* We had people
concerned and watching for that.

Most towns/cities have regulations on how it works and just because
value goes up, no windfall.

Amazing. I've never heard of it being done like that.


Simple math. You have assessment, budget, tax rate. They work
together. Total assessed value divided by budget = tax mil rate. The
fact that the value of houses increases does not trigger a tax rate
change, the town/city budget does that.

Sure, some towns may slip a few things in since people don't know what
is going on and expect a tax increase, so lets give it to them.

Be sure to attend some of the town meetings too when budget talks come
up. Citizens have to watch.


+1 It's easier to control the local critters.

Don't forget the school board, that's the main expense around here.

Look at your tax bill and see who is reaching into your pocket.


In DE the schools must hold referendum to increase taxes in neighboring
PA if the schools want more money they just take it.

Tekkie© June 15th 21 10:42 PM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 16:00:01 -0400, Frank posted for all of us to digest...


On 6/12/2021 3:11 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 16:49:24 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 6/11/2021 3:09 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 6/11/2021 6:05 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/11/2021 12:35 AM, Bob F wrote:
On 6/10/2021 7:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/10/2021 9:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html


As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.

******** Real estate taxes are going to jump.* Insurance rates also.

Tax RATES should go down if the assessment goes up.* Insurance for
replacement would go up.

Tell us someplace where that happens.


Putnam CT.* The mill rate for taxes is set by factoring the value of
the properties assess and the town budget.* When they did the
reassessment each time the tax RATE was reduced to reflect it.

The last time it was done, industrial/commercial properties went up a
bit more that residential and my house tax actually went down a few
bucks.

If you assume it it going up, the town may oblige you.* We had people
concerned and watching for that.

Most towns/cities have regulations on how it works and just because
value goes up, no windfall.

Amazing. I've never heard of it being done like that.

Simple math. You have assessment, budget, tax rate. They work
together. Total assessed value divided by budget = tax mil rate. The
fact that the value of houses increases does not trigger a tax rate
change, the town/city budget does that.

Sure, some towns may slip a few things in since people don't know what
is going on and expect a tax increase, so lets give it to them.

Be sure to attend some of the town meetings too when budget talks come
up. Citizens have to watch.


+1 It's easier to control the local critters.

Don't forget the school board, that's the main expense around here.

Look at your tax bill and see who is reaching into your pocket.


In DE the schools must hold referendum to increase taxes in neighboring
PA if the schools want more money they just take it.


PA passed a law that limits (supposedly)the increases. Their business managers
seems to finagle around it and if they are desperate they can apply to the
state for an exemption; which always seems to be granted. It's for the kids!

--
Tekkie

Buck Fiden June 16th 21 12:12 AM

U.S. Home Values Up 2 Trillion Dollars This Year
 
On 6/11/21 2:10 PM, Tekkie� wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 18:24:46 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman posted for all of us to
digest...

On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9673329/Homeowners-America-got-2T-richer-months-year.html
As we found out in 2008 there is a difference between home prices and
home value. I would say home prices are up. Whether that is actually
going to translate to value will be seen.

Real estate taxes are going to jump. Insurance rates also.

That's for sure - for both. Inflation is already here...


It's all part of Biden's Misery Index.

And with the democrats shutting down pipelines, gas prices will only get worse.




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