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On Sun, 2 May 2021 05:54:24 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 22:28:20 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 00:31:09 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 00:49:57 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 23:43:31 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:41:00 -0400, wrote:

Once everyone is vaccinated who wants to be, why are we not "lettn ur
rip"?
Let Darwin decide who dies.

Which country does that? The US obviously doesn't operate that way and
never has.

The original story was we wanted to limit infection to prevent
overloading hospitals
We are there and have been for quite a while in the US.

Then it was we need to build herd immunity.
Between the vaccine and natural cases, we are about as close as we
will get. They can't fill all the vaccine slots they have now. Anyone
who wants the shot can get it.

Masks have gone from "the general public doesn't need a mask" to "Wear
2". The CDC has finally relaxed the rule and said if you are outside,
all alone, you don't need one. (like people outside all alone ever
needed one).

The lock down thing is, at best, inconclusive.
States that are wide open like Florida are not doing any worse than
states that are locked down.

You folks really need to pick a story and stick to it.

What is it about science that bothers you? Why do you have a hard time
with
the concept of learning as we go and adapting to what we learn? Where
is it
written that "In the beginning everything will be known and no new
information will be discovered"? I haven't seen that written anywhere.

I am about to be done with all of this crap. I had my shots, it's been
3 weeks. What else do you want?

A modicum of common sense doesn't seem like too much to ask.
WAY too much to expect of Greg Fretwell. What bothers him about
science is he has n ointerest in understanding it. He's worked all his
pitiful life at remaining in the ignorant state we are all born in,
and he'll be damned if he's going to give up on the job at this
advanced stage of his life.

I wonder if he cries and goes to pieces every time the NEC is updated.

"Breakers instead of fuses? No more knob and tube wiring? You guys need
to
get your story straight."
Sounds like Greg!!

Actually there is no code requirement that you use breakers. I could
install a fuse panel tomorrow as long as I used type S adapters that
prevent using the wrong fuse.
It is quite arguable that fuses are safer. Breakers can fail closed
(Federal Pacific Stab Loks have a reputation for it). Fuses can only
fail open.

Sometime older is better, even if not as convenient but I can't think
of anything more inconvenient than your house burning down.

I can, dying.

That can happen when your house burns down

On Sun, 2 May 2021 07:11:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 1 May 2021 07:17:27 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 01/05/2021 02:57, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 04:34:28 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 10:39:14 AM UTC-4,
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 08:53:34 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 29/04/2021 08:06, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 00:49:57 -0400, Clare Snyder

wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 23:43:31 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:41:00 -0400, wrote:

Once everyone is vaccinated who wants to be, why are we not
"lettn ur
rip"?
Let Darwin decide who dies.

Which country does that? The US obviously doesn't operate that way
and
never has.

The original story was we wanted to limit infection to prevent
overloading hospitals
We are there and have been for quite a while in the US.

Then it was we need to build herd immunity.
Between the vaccine and natural cases, we are about as close as
we
will get. They can't fill all the vaccine slots they have now.
Anyone
who wants the shot can get it.

Masks have gone from "the general public doesn't need a mask" to
"Wear
2". The CDC has finally relaxed the rule and said if you are
outside,
all alone, you don't need one. (like people outside all alone
ever
needed one).

The lock down thing is, at best, inconclusive.
States that are wide open like Florida are not doing any worse
than
states that are locked down.

You folks really need to pick a story and stick to it.

What is it about science that bothers you? Why do you have a hard
time with
the concept of learning as we go and adapting to what we learn?
Where is it
written that "In the beginning everything will be known and no new
information will be discovered"? I haven't seen that written
anywhere.

I am about to be done with all of this crap. I had my shots, it's
been
3 weeks. What else do you want?

A modicum of common sense doesn't seem like too much to ask.
WAY too much to expect of Greg Fretwell. What bothers him about
science is he has n ointerest in understanding it. He's worked all
his
pitiful life at remaining in the ignorant state we are all born in,
and he'll be damned if he's going to give up on the job at this
advanced stage of his life.

I am not going to squander the rest of my life quivering in fear.
I played the game, I wore my face covering, I got the ****ing
vaccination. I am about to be done with this ****. If I die I will
die
out there living, not huddled in the corner scared of a virus I am
supposed to be immune to now.

The vaccine doesn't necessarily make you immune, but it does give you
much better protection from the virus.
What is sad, is that you may be vaccinated, but you can still be a
carrier/spreader to the 40% of idiot antivaxxers and the folk who
can't
be vaccinated for health reasons, thereby perpetuating the constant
spread of the virus.
So this will never end. Is that what you are saying?

No one knows how exactly this will "end". We do have experience though
with other vaccines, putting down or totally eradicating diseases. So
stay tuned. BTW, let her rip didn't work with any of those either.

Which other virus prompted the government to force mask wearing,
businesses to close and people to stay home?
Has there ever been a precedent for this?

Well here's an example where a devastating disease was allowed to run
riot without wearing masks etc and look what happened.

The Black Death was one of the most devastating epidemics in human
history. It was the first outbreak of medieval plague in Europe, and it
killed tens of millions of people, an estimated 30€“50 percent of the
European population, between 1347€“1351

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4013036/


Since the plague was transmitted from flea bites,

That isnt clear, is more likely to be lice etc.

I doubt masks were going to help much. What stopped the
plague was people getting the rats out of their homes

Wrong, as always.

and according to your article it might have
actually not been the worst thing to happen..

Yes, it could have killed everyone.

The writers do seem somewhat pragmatic about it.

Only the fools.

" By targeting frail people of all ages,

It killed a hell of a lot more than just frail people.

and killing them by the hundreds of thousands within an
extremely short period of time, the Black Death might have
represented a strong force of natural selection and removed
the weakest individuals on a very broad scale within Europe".

Mindless ****.

" After the Black Death, there was a severe shortage of laborers,

So it clearly didnt just kill frail people, stupid.

effectively ending the medieval system of serfdom, and consequently
wages improved dramatically while prices for food, goods, and housing
fell [23]. These changes represented a major redistribution of wealth.
Real wages rose to levels that were not exceeded until the 19th
century, which allowed for improvements in housing and diet for
people of all social status levels".

"Improvements in diet after the Black Death, and particularly
decreases in social inequities in diet that presumably benefitted
the majority of the lower status population of England, might
have acted to reduce average levels of frailty in the population,

More utterly mindless silly ****.

perhaps more than any other factor associated with improvements
in standards of living. Changes in diet can lead to changes in health
because nutritional status strongly influences immune competence [31].
Following the Black Death, the amount of money spent per capita on
food increased, and people ate higher quantities of relatively
high-quality wheat bread, meat, and fish, much of which was consumed
fresh rather than salted as had been common prior to the epidemic
[29]. Such changes probably improved the nutritional quality of the
diet [29], and given that the diet of lower classes became more
similar to that of high status individuals, a greater proportion
of the post-Black Death English population was consuming
a nutritious diet than had been true before the epidemic".

It sounds like the talking points at a Democrat convention. ;-)


I didn't cite the article and I didn't write it, all I did was bring a
few quotes over.

On Sun, 2 May 2021 07:21:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 1 May 2021 05:15:52 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 5:45:14 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 09:49:49 -0700, Bob F wrote:
On 4/29/2021 8:48 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/29/2021 11:24 AM, Maskless Sociopath wrote:



Well it could turn out to be similar to the flu in respect of
needing
a jab every year to immunise for the new strains that develop.
Anti vaxxers just make the problem a lot worse.


President Trump was instrumental in getting the vaccines to market
in
record time.

I remember all the lefty libtards said it wasn't possible but
President Trump did it.


Really? I thought the pharmaceutical companies did it. Did not
realize
he was working in the lab.

Exactly. As always, trump just claimed credit for something he had
little to do with.

The $3.5 billion and trimming a little off the onerous FDA process
certainly got the vaccine out about 6 years ahead of the normal pace.
The pipeline was full by the time Trump left office.

Only because Trump got very lucky and three of the six vaccines panned
out.
Had only one worked, we'd still be waiting.

Biden got lucky that there was vaccine in the pipeline when he took
office.

Trump even refused to place more
orders with Pfizer in late summer, those orders went abroad instead.
Biden
had to do it.

BTW the world is ****ing with us that we didn't let
enough vaccine out into the rest of the world

More utterly mindless **** from you.


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/covid-19-vaccine-hoarding-set-to-backfire-on-rich-nations-as-india-reels/articleshow/82277257.cms

wrote in message
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On Sun, 2 May 2021 05:54:24 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 22:28:20 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 00:31:09 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 00:49:57 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 23:43:31 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:41:00 -0400, wrote:

Once everyone is vaccinated who wants to be, why are we not "lettn
ur
rip"?
Let Darwin decide who dies.

Which country does that? The US obviously doesn't operate that way
and
never has.

The original story was we wanted to limit infection to prevent
overloading hospitals
We are there and have been for quite a while in the US.

Then it was we need to build herd immunity.
Between the vaccine and natural cases, we are about as close as we
will get. They can't fill all the vaccine slots they have now.
Anyone
who wants the shot can get it.

Masks have gone from "the general public doesn't need a mask" to
"Wear
2". The CDC has finally relaxed the rule and said if you are
outside,
all alone, you don't need one. (like people outside all alone ever
needed one).

The lock down thing is, at best, inconclusive.
States that are wide open like Florida are not doing any worse than
states that are locked down.

You folks really need to pick a story and stick to it.

What is it about science that bothers you? Why do you have a hard
time
with
the concept of learning as we go and adapting to what we learn? Where
is it
written that "In the beginning everything will be known and no new
information will be discovered"? I haven't seen that written
anywhere.

I am about to be done with all of this crap. I had my shots, it's
been
3 weeks. What else do you want?

A modicum of common sense doesn't seem like too much to ask.
WAY too much to expect of Greg Fretwell. What bothers him about
science is he has n ointerest in understanding it. He's worked all his
pitiful life at remaining in the ignorant state we are all born in,
and he'll be damned if he's going to give up on the job at this
advanced stage of his life.

I wonder if he cries and goes to pieces every time the NEC is updated.

"Breakers instead of fuses? No more knob and tube wiring? You guys need
to
get your story straight."
Sounds like Greg!!

Actually there is no code requirement that you use breakers. I could
install a fuse panel tomorrow as long as I used type S adapters that
prevent using the wrong fuse.
It is quite arguable that fuses are safer. Breakers can fail closed
(Federal Pacific Stab Loks have a reputation for it). Fuses can only
fail open.

Sometime older is better, even if not as convenient but I can't think
of anything more inconvenient than your house burning down.

I can, dying.

That can happen when your house burns down

Still worse to die than have your house burn down.
The insurance will buy you a new one if the house
burns down but even life insurance wont return you
from the dead even if you are jesus christ returned
from the dead.

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 2 May 2021 07:11:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 1 May 2021 07:17:27 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 01/05/2021 02:57, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 04:34:28 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 10:39:14 AM UTC-4,
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 08:53:34 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 29/04/2021 08:06, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 00:49:57 -0400, Clare Snyder

wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 23:43:31 -0500, Jim Joyce

wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:41:00 -0400, wrote:

Once everyone is vaccinated who wants to be, why are we not
"lettn ur
rip"?
Let Darwin decide who dies.

Which country does that? The US obviously doesn't operate that
way
and
never has.

The original story was we wanted to limit infection to prevent
overloading hospitals
We are there and have been for quite a while in the US.

Then it was we need to build herd immunity.
Between the vaccine and natural cases, we are about as close as
we
will get. They can't fill all the vaccine slots they have now.
Anyone
who wants the shot can get it.

Masks have gone from "the general public doesn't need a mask"
to
"Wear
2". The CDC has finally relaxed the rule and said if you are
outside,
all alone, you don't need one. (like people outside all alone
ever
needed one).

The lock down thing is, at best, inconclusive.
States that are wide open like Florida are not doing any worse
than
states that are locked down.

You folks really need to pick a story and stick to it.

What is it about science that bothers you? Why do you have a
hard
time with
the concept of learning as we go and adapting to what we learn?
Where is it
written that "In the beginning everything will be known and no
new
information will be discovered"? I haven't seen that written
anywhere.

I am about to be done with all of this crap. I had my shots,
it's
been
3 weeks. What else do you want?

A modicum of common sense doesn't seem like too much to ask.
WAY too much to expect of Greg Fretwell. What bothers him about
science is he has n ointerest in understanding it. He's worked
all
his
pitiful life at remaining in the ignorant state we are all born
in,
and he'll be damned if he's going to give up on the job at this
advanced stage of his life.

I am not going to squander the rest of my life quivering in fear.
I played the game, I wore my face covering, I got the ****ing
vaccination. I am about to be done with this ****. If I die I will
die
out there living, not huddled in the corner scared of a virus I am
supposed to be immune to now.

The vaccine doesn't necessarily make you immune, but it does give
you
much better protection from the virus.
What is sad, is that you may be vaccinated, but you can still be a
carrier/spreader to the 40% of idiot antivaxxers and the folk who
can't
be vaccinated for health reasons, thereby perpetuating the constant
spread of the virus.
So this will never end. Is that what you are saying?

No one knows how exactly this will "end". We do have experience
though
with other vaccines, putting down or totally eradicating diseases.
So
stay tuned. BTW, let her rip didn't work with any of those either.

Which other virus prompted the government to force mask wearing,
businesses to close and people to stay home?
Has there ever been a precedent for this?

Well here's an example where a devastating disease was allowed to run
riot without wearing masks etc and look what happened.

The Black Death was one of the most devastating epidemics in human
history. It was the first outbreak of medieval plague in Europe, and it
killed tens of millions of people, an estimated 30€“50 percent of the
European population, between 1347€“1351

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4013036/


Since the plague was transmitted from flea bites,

That isnt clear, is more likely to be lice etc.

I doubt masks were going to help much. What stopped the
plague was people getting the rats out of their homes

Wrong, as always.

and according to your article it might have
actually not been the worst thing to happen..

Yes, it could have killed everyone.

The writers do seem somewhat pragmatic about it.

Only the fools.

" By targeting frail people of all ages,

It killed a hell of a lot more than just frail people.

and killing them by the hundreds of thousands within an
extremely short period of time, the Black Death might have
represented a strong force of natural selection and removed
the weakest individuals on a very broad scale within Europe".

Mindless ****.

" After the Black Death, there was a severe shortage of laborers,

So it clearly didnt just kill frail people, stupid.

effectively ending the medieval system of serfdom, and consequently
wages improved dramatically while prices for food, goods, and housing
fell [23]. These changes represented a major redistribution of wealth.
Real wages rose to levels that were not exceeded until the 19th
century, which allowed for improvements in housing and diet for
people of all social status levels".

"Improvements in diet after the Black Death, and particularly
decreases in social inequities in diet that presumably benefitted
the majority of the lower status population of England, might
have acted to reduce average levels of frailty in the population,

More utterly mindless silly ****.

perhaps more than any other factor associated with improvements
in standards of living. Changes in diet can lead to changes in health
because nutritional status strongly influences immune competence [31].
Following the Black Death, the amount of money spent per capita on
food increased, and people ate higher quantities of relatively
high-quality wheat bread, meat, and fish, much of which was consumed
fresh rather than salted as had been common prior to the epidemic
[29]. Such changes probably improved the nutritional quality of the
diet [29], and given that the diet of lower classes became more
similar to that of high status individuals, a greater proportion
of the post-Black Death English population was consuming
a nutritious diet than had been true before the epidemic".

It sounds like the talking points at a Democrat convention. ;-)


I didn't cite the article and I didn't write it, all I did was bring a
few quotes over.

But were stupid enough to wave that **** around.

wrote in message
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On Sun, 2 May 2021 07:21:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 1 May 2021 05:15:52 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 5:45:14 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 09:49:49 -0700, Bob F wrote:
On 4/29/2021 8:48 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/29/2021 11:24 AM, Maskless Sociopath wrote:



Well it could turn out to be similar to the flu in respect of
needing
a jab every year to immunise for the new strains that develop.
Anti vaxxers just make the problem a lot worse.


President Trump was instrumental in getting the vaccines to market
in
record time.

I remember all the lefty libtards said it wasn't possible but
President Trump did it.


Really? I thought the pharmaceutical companies did it. Did not
realize
he was working in the lab.

Exactly. As always, trump just claimed credit for something he had
little to do with.

The $3.5 billion and trimming a little off the onerous FDA process
certainly got the vaccine out about 6 years ahead of the normal pace.
The pipeline was full by the time Trump left office.

Only because Trump got very lucky and three of the six vaccines panned
out.
Had only one worked, we'd still be waiting.

Biden got lucky that there was vaccine in the pipeline when he took
office.

Trump even refused to place more
orders with Pfizer in late summer, those orders went abroad instead.
Biden
had to do it.

BTW the world is ****ing with us that we didn't let
enough vaccine out into the rest of the world

More utterly mindless **** from you.


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/covid-19-vaccine-hoarding-set-to-backfire-on-rich-nations-as-india-reels/articleshow/82277257.cms

That's not the world ****ing you, just some fools that
couldn't organise their own vaccine supply properly
demanding others do something about their ****up.

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On 4/29/2021 11:41 AM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Muggles" wrote in message
...
On 4/29/2021 10:26 AM, Rod Speed wrote:




I CHOOSE how and who I show care and affection towards,


Because you are a stupid sociopath.

hahaha! I'm an individual who can THINK for myself, don't need a safe
space to deal with reality, and I understand that MY health issues are
different from someone else's health issues. THEREFORE... I take care
of MY health in MY best interests - not someone else's best interests. Duh!



You dont have a ****ing clue what is best for you.

OH? I'm the only one who knows what is best for my health.





--
Maggie

On 4/29/2021 11:58 AM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Muggles" wrote in message
...
On 4/29/2021 11:14 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says...

I observed the end result of when people were taking the flu shot.
After a number of years, the side effects were minimal, so I now will
get an annual flu shot.Â* I'm waiting until the covid "vaccine" proves
safe before I take that untested shot.





Interisting.Â* The wife and I have been taking the flu shot for over 20
years and no problems.Â* This past flu season both the wife and I got the
flu about 2 weeks after taking the shot.Â* We were not even around hardly
anyone because of the Covid.Â* That will probably be the last time we get
a flu shot.

We did both get the Covid shots about 2 or 3 months ago.Â* On the 2nd day
of the 2nd shot we both were somewhat weak, but it was only for one day.
We are both over 70.


A close friend was hospitalized when he had pneumonia and a blood
infection.Â* He also had covid.Â* He was given antibody plasma
treatments and 3 days after the initial treatments he tested negative
for covid.

With that quick a negative test, it was either a
false negative or the original was a false positive.

gee ... He began recovering after the antibody treatments.




--
Maggie

On 4/29/2021 12:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Muggles" wrote in message
...
On 4/29/2021 11:16 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says...


Only a few die from the shots?Â* Why did they die?




People die from many things.Â* Even eating somethig with peanuts in will
kill some people.Â* I wonder how many died or were injured ic car
accidents on the way to the shots ?


yeah ...Â* I just want to live every day as best as I can.Â* The future
will happen regardless of what I might try to do to prevent it.

More utterly mindless silly stuff with vaccination and even you have flu
shots.


Flu shots have been thoroughly tested for many years. Big difference.

--
Maggie

On 4/29/2021 12:12 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Muggles writes:
On 4/29/2021 6:21 AM, trader_4 wrote:

In other words, you're a coward.


HAHAHA You believe taking care of MY own health in MY bests interests
is being a coward? naaaaaa ....



Not just a coward, but a selfish coward - the worst sort.

Wow ... so if YOU take care of YOUR health in YOUR best interests that
would make you a selfish coward, too, right?

Did you wear masks? Get a "vaccine?"



--
Maggie

On 4/29/2021 4:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 11:31:51 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On 4/29/2021 10:26 AM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Muggles" wrote in message
...
On 4/29/2021 2:06 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 00:49:57 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 23:43:31 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:
A modicum of common sense doesn't seem like too much to ask.
Â* WAY too much to expect of Greg Fretwell. What bothers him about
science is he has n ointerest in understanding it. He's worked all his
pitiful life at remaining in the ignorant state we are all born in,
and he'll be damned if he's going to give up on the job at this
advanced stage of his life.


I am not going to squander the rest of my life quivering in fear.
I played the game, I wore my face covering, I got the ****ing
vaccination. I am about to be done with this ****. If I die I will die
out there living, not huddled in the corner scared of a virus I am
supposed to be immune to now.


I decided a long time ago I wouldn't live in fear.

It isnt about fear, its about sensible precautions.

It isn't? Sure comes across that way... 'TAKE THE SHOT OR DIE! IF YOU
DON'T TAKE THE SHOT, YOU'RE GOING TO KILL OTHER PEOPLE!"


Since, I can't wear masks,

Another bare faced lie.

I can't wear masks.



Get a face shield. It shuts up the mask nazis and you can still
breathe.
I have to wear a mask at the PT place my FIL goes to and it ****s up
my sinuses for a couple hours.
BTW the PT guy a Dr in Physical Therapy who has a blood oxygen monitor
on people while they exercise says a mask will drop the O2 level a
percent or two. He suggested my FIL take off his mask for a few
minutes and I saw the level rise. He just wanted to be sure it was
just the mask and not another issue. Since we were all fully
vaccinated he said it wasn't a problem.


A face shield doesn't protect me from anything, so it's just for show to
make OTHER people FEEL good, and I'm not one to do anything against my
conscience, let alone just do something to make any group of people feel
GOOD or happy with me. I've never needed anyone's approval, and don't
care to be part of a group of people that I have to placate so they FEEL
good. People like that are never satisfied.

--
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On 4/30/2021 7:28 AM, Frank wrote:
On 4/30/2021 7:52 AM, trader_4 wrote:

I am disappointed that Biden has gone ultra lib crazy, but at least
he's not
a daily embarrassment to the country and disgrace to the office.Â* And
right
now if I had to vote again, I would still pick Biden over Trump.


I pointed out that you were someone that would cut off his nose to spite
his face but it appears now that you would cut off your head to spite
your body.

HAHAH yeah
--
Maggie

In article , says...

More utterly mindless silly stuff with vaccination and even you have flu
shots.


Flu shots have been thoroughly tested for many years. Big difference.




The wife and I have been getting the flu shots for over 20 years. This
flu season we both came down with the flu about 2 weeks or less after
the shot.

I don't know if we will ever get another flu shot or not. I do believe
it was the shot because due to the COVID we were hardly around anyone.

We did both get the COVID shots as soon as we could. Both of us were
somewhat sick for one day about 2 days after the 2nd shot.

On 5/1/2021 4:05 AM, Larry wrote:
On 4/30/21 11:06 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 4/30/2021 3:46 AM, Bruno wrote:
On 4/30/21 1:31 AM, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 00:49:57 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 23:43:31 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:41:00 -0400, wrote:

Once everyone is vaccinated who wants to be, why are we not
"lettn ur
rip"?
Let Darwin decide who dies.

Which country does that? The US obviously doesn't operate that way
and
never has.

The original story was we wanted to limit infection to prevent
overloading hospitals
We are there and have been for quite a while in the US.

Then it was we need to build herd immunity.
Between the vaccine and natural cases, we are about as close as we
will get. They can't fill all the vaccine slots they have now.
Anyone
who wants the shot can get it.

Masks have gone from "the general public doesn't need a mask" to
"Wear
2". The CDC has finally relaxed the rule and said if you are
outside,
all alone, you don't need one. (like people outside all alone ever
needed one).

The lock down thing is, at best, inconclusive.
States that are wide open like Florida are not doing any worse than
states that are locked down.

You folks really need to pick a story and stick to it.

What is it about science that bothers you? Why do you have a hard
time with
the concept of learning as we go and adapting to what we learn?
Where is it
written that "In the beginning everything will be known and no new
information will be discovered"? I haven't seen that written
anywhere.

I am about to be done with all of this crap. I had my shots, it's
been
3 weeks. What else do you want?

A modicum of common sense doesn't seem like too much to ask.
Â* WAY too much to expect of Greg Fretwell. What bothers him about
science is he has n ointerest in understanding it. He's worked all his
pitiful life at remaining in the ignorant state we are all born in,
and he'll be damned if he's going to give up on the job at this
advanced stage of his life.

I wonder if he cries and goes to pieces every time the NEC is updated.

"Breakers instead of fuses? No more knob and tube wiring? You guys
need to
get your story straight."



Until the commie left destroys the Constitution this is still a free
country.
The snowflakes can take the experimental gene therapy drug and wear
as many layers of masks as they want. Done and done! Protected!

People with a healthy immune system can ignore Farcical Fauci's advice.

The snowflakes are the Repubs that refuse to do anything to stop covid
from killing Americans.


The Fauci-19 virus is just a little exercise for the human immune
system.Â* Did you sleep through Biology 101?

You obviously slept though any education you ever attended.

"Muggles" wrote in message ...
On 4/29/2021 11:41 AM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Muggles" wrote in message
...
On 4/29/2021 10:26 AM, Rod Speed wrote:




I CHOOSE how and who I show care and affection towards,


Because you are a stupid sociopath.

hahaha! I'm an individual who can THINK for myself,

We know that is a bare faced lie because you
cant even manage to work out that the vaccines
arent gene therapy. Or that masks work either.

don't need a safe space to deal with reality,

You wouldnt know what reality was if it bit you on your lard arse.

and I understand that MY health issues are different from someone else's
health issues.

Its a bare faced lie that you cant wear a mask.

THEREFORE... I take care of MY health in MY best interests

You risk others because you are a sociopath.

- not someone else's best interests. Duh!

Because you are a sociopath who couldnt
care less about anyone except yourself.

You dont have a ****ing clue what is best for you.

OH? I'm the only one who knows what is best for my health.

More utterly mindless pig ignorant bull****. You are
pig ignorant about even the most basic health issues.

"Muggles" wrote in message ...
On 4/29/2021 11:58 AM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Muggles" wrote in message
...
On 4/29/2021 11:14 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says...

I observed the end result of when people were taking the flu shot.
After a number of years, the side effects were minimal, so I now will
get an annual flu shot. I'm waiting until the covid "vaccine" proves
safe before I take that untested shot.





Interisting. The wife and I have been taking the flu shot for over 20
years and no problems. This past flu season both the wife and I got
the
flu about 2 weeks after taking the shot. We were not even around
hardly
anyone because of the Covid. That will probably be the last time we
get
a flu shot.

We did both get the Covid shots about 2 or 3 months ago. On the 2nd
day
of the 2nd shot we both were somewhat weak, but it was only for one
day.
We are both over 70.


A close friend was hospitalized when he had pneumonia and a blood
infection. He also had covid. He was given antibody plasma treatments
and 3 days after the initial treatments he tested negative for covid.

With that quick a negative test, it was either a
false negative or the original was a false positive.

gee ... He began recovering after the antibody treatments.

And you have no ****ing idea what would have
happened without the antibody treatments.

"Muggles" wrote in message ...
On 4/29/2021 12:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Muggles" wrote in message
...
On 4/29/2021 11:16 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says...


Only a few die from the shots? Why did they die?




People die from many things. Even eating somethig with peanuts in will
kill some people. I wonder how many died or were injured ic car
accidents on the way to the shots ?


yeah ... I just want to live every day as best as I can. The future
will happen regardless of what I might try to do to prevent it.

More utterly mindless silly stuff with vaccination and even you have flu
shots.


Flu shots have been thoroughly tested for many years. Big difference.

Not with the latest influenza strain they havent.

"Muggles" wrote in message ...
On 4/29/2021 12:12 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Muggles writes:
On 4/29/2021 6:21 AM, trader_4 wrote:

In other words, you're a coward.


HAHAHA You believe taking care of MY own health in MY bests interests
is being a coward? naaaaaa ....

Not just a coward, but a selfish coward - the worst sort.

Wow ... so if YOU take care of YOUR health in YOUR best interests

You arent doing anything of the sort.

that would make you a selfish coward, too, right?

Wrong.

"Muggles" wrote in message ...
On 4/29/2021 4:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 11:31:51 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On 4/29/2021 10:26 AM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Muggles" wrote in message
...
On 4/29/2021 2:06 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 00:49:57 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 23:43:31 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:
A modicum of common sense doesn't seem like too much to ask.
WAY too much to expect of Greg Fretwell. What bothers him about
science is he has n ointerest in understanding it. He's worked all
his
pitiful life at remaining in the ignorant state we are all born in,
and he'll be damned if he's going to give up on the job at this
advanced stage of his life.


I am not going to squander the rest of my life quivering in fear.
I played the game, I wore my face covering, I got the ****ing
vaccination. I am about to be done with this ****. If I die I will
die
out there living, not huddled in the corner scared of a virus I am
supposed to be immune to now.


I decided a long time ago I wouldn't live in fear.

It isnt about fear, its about sensible precautions.

It isn't? Sure comes across that way... 'TAKE THE SHOT OR DIE! IF YOU
DON'T TAKE THE SHOT, YOU'RE GOING TO KILL OTHER PEOPLE!"


Since, I can't wear masks,

Another bare faced lie.

I can't wear masks.



Get a face shield. It shuts up the mask nazis and you can still
breathe.
I have to wear a mask at the PT place my FIL goes to and it ****s up
my sinuses for a couple hours.
BTW the PT guy a Dr in Physical Therapy who has a blood oxygen monitor
on people while they exercise says a mask will drop the O2 level a
percent or two. He suggested my FIL take off his mask for a few
minutes and I saw the level rise. He just wanted to be sure it was
just the mask and not another issue. Since we were all fully
vaccinated he said it wasn't a problem.

A face shield doesn't protect me from anything, so it's just for show to
make OTHER people FEEL good,

More utterly mindless pig ignorant **** from you.

and I'm not one to do anything against my conscience,

More utterly mindless pig ignorant **** from you.

let alone just do something to make any group of people feel GOOD or happy
with me.

More utterly mindless pig ignorant **** from you.

I've never needed anyone's approval, and don't care to be part of a group
of people that I have to placate so they FEEL good. People like that are
never satisfied.

More utterly mindless pig ignorant **** from you.

Die soon.

Ralph Mowery wrote:

In article , says...

More utterly mindless silly stuff with vaccination and even you
have flu shots.


Flu shots have been thoroughly tested for many years. Big
difference.




The wife and I have been getting the flu shots for over 20 years.
This flu season we both came down with the flu about 2 weeks or
less after the shot.

I don't know if we will ever get another flu shot or not. I do
believe it was the shot because due to the COVID we were hardly
around anyone.

We did both get the COVID shots as soon as we could. Both of us
were somewhat sick for one day about 2 days after the 2nd shot.

Same here for the covid shots (husband and me) but not sick after first
one. Second one gave Don major fatigue 6 hour later, slept 13 hours
and was fun. I didn't feel off til next day then mild fever, mild
nausea, slightly loose stools. Was fine after 2nd day. Just means you
know for sure it's working. Pfizer for us both.

cshenk wrote:

Ralph Mowery wrote:

In article , says...

More utterly mindless silly stuff with vaccination and even you
have flu shots.


Flu shots have been thoroughly tested for many years. Big
difference.




The wife and I have been getting the flu shots for over 20 years.
This flu season we both came down with the flu about 2 weeks or
less after the shot.

I don't know if we will ever get another flu shot or not. I do
believe it was the shot because due to the COVID we were hardly
around anyone.

We did both get the COVID shots as soon as we could. Both of us
were somewhat sick for one day about 2 days after the 2nd shot.

Same here for the covid shots (husband and me) but not sick after
first one. Second one gave Don major fatigue 6 hour later, slept 13
hours and was fun. I didn't feel off til next day then mild fever,
mild nausea, slightly loose stools. Was fine after 2nd day. Just
means you know for sure it's working. Pfizer for us both.

Sorry. He was fine (not fun, but he was that too!)

Ralph Mowery wrote
wrote
Rod Speed wrote

More utterly mindless silly stuff with
vaccination and even you have flu shots.

Flu shots have been thoroughly tested for many years. Big difference.

The wife and I have been getting the flu shots for over 20 years.
This flu season we both came down with the flu about 2 weeks
or less after the shot.

The flu shot is only about 50% effective and that varys
with the flu season because they have to guess which
flu strains will be active in the coming flu season.

I don't know if we will ever get another flu shot or not.
I do believe it was the shot

It cant have been. There is no active influenza in a flu shot.

because due to the COVID we were hardly around anyone.

It only takes the one infected individual to infect one of you.

And you might have got covid and recovered too.

We did both get the COVID shots as soon as we could.
Both of us were somewhat sick for one day about 2 days
after the 2nd shot.

All that proves is that you did react to the vaccine a little.

On 5/3/2021 5:12 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 4/29/2021 12:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Muggles" wrote in message
...
On 4/29/2021 11:16 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says...


Only a few die from the shots?Â* Why did they die?




People die from many things.Â* Even eating somethig with peanuts in will
kill some people.Â* I wonder how many died or were injured ic car
accidents on the way to the shots ?


yeah ...Â* I just want to live every day as best as I can.Â* The future
will happen regardless of what I might try to do to prevent it.

More utterly mindless silly stuff with vaccination and even you have
flu shots.


Flu shots have been thoroughly tested for many years. Big difference.


Rally? New shot every yuear.

The Covid vaccine has been in the works for about 15 years and used for
other corona viruses and then adapted for Covid, just as your tested
many years flu shot.

On 05/03/2021 03:12 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 4/29/2021 12:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Muggles" wrote in message
...
On 4/29/2021 11:16 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says...


Only a few die from the shots? Why did they die?




People die from many things. Even eating somethig with peanuts in will
kill some people. I wonder how many died or were injured ic car
accidents on the way to the shots ?


yeah ... I just want to live every day as best as I can. The future
will happen regardless of what I might try to do to prevent it.

More utterly mindless silly stuff with vaccination and even you have
flu shots.


Flu shots have been thoroughly tested for many years. Big difference.


I never had one of those either.

On 05/03/2021 07:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/3/2021 5:12 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 4/29/2021 12:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Muggles" wrote in message
...
On 4/29/2021 11:16 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says...


Only a few die from the shots? Why did they die?




People die from many things. Even eating somethig with peanuts in
will
kill some people. I wonder how many died or were injured ic car
accidents on the way to the shots ?


yeah ... I just want to live every day as best as I can. The
future will happen regardless of what I might try to do to prevent it.

More utterly mindless silly stuff with vaccination and even you have
flu shots.


Flu shots have been thoroughly tested for many years. Big difference.


Rally? New shot every yuear.

The Covid vaccine has been in the works for about 15 years and used for
other corona viruses and then adapted for Covid, just as your tested
many years flu shot.

News flash from NYT: The US will never achieve herd immunity. That went
the way of 'flatten the curve'. Covid will become just another thing
requiring a yearly shot. The cash registers are ringing at Pfizer.

On 03/05/2021 22:12, Muggles wrote:
On 4/29/2021 12:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Muggles" wrote in message
...
On 4/29/2021 11:16 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says...


Only a few die from the shots?Â* Why did they die?




People die from many things.Â* Even eating somethig with peanuts in will
kill some people.Â* I wonder how many died or were injured ic car
accidents on the way to the shots ?


yeah ...Â* I just want to live every day as best as I can.Â* The future
will happen regardless of what I might try to do to prevent it.

More utterly mindless silly stuff with vaccination and even you have
flu shots.


Flu shots have been thoroughly tested for many years. Big difference.


Why flu vaccines so often fail | Science | AAAS
https://www.sciencemag.org ۼ news ۼ 2017/09 ۼ why-fl...
20 Sept 2017 €” The most common influenza vaccine contains an
"inactivated" virus, which manufacturers grow in chicken eggs. As
Skowronski's team first reported in 2014, the virus can mutate while it
is growing in the eggs, resulting in a vaccine unable to block
circulating strains.

"Bod" wrote in message
...
On 03/05/2021 22:12, Muggles wrote:
On 4/29/2021 12:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Muggles" wrote in message
...
On 4/29/2021 11:16 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says...


Only a few die from the shots? Why did they die?




People die from many things. Even eating somethig with peanuts in
will
kill some people. I wonder how many died or were injured ic car
accidents on the way to the shots ?


yeah ... I just want to live every day as best as I can. The future
will happen regardless of what I might try to do to prevent it.

More utterly mindless silly stuff with vaccination and even you have flu
shots.


Flu shots have been thoroughly tested for many years. Big difference.


Why flu vaccines so often fail | Science | AAAS
https://www.sciencemag.org ۼ news ۼ 2017/09 ۼ why-fl...
20 Sept 2017 €” The most common influenza vaccine contains an "inactivated"
virus, which manufacturers grow in chicken eggs. As Skowronski's team
first reported in 2014, the virus can mutate while it is growing in the
eggs, resulting in a vaccine unable to block circulating strains.

Much more often the flu vaccination is only partially effective
because those making the vaccine have to guess which will be
the most common strains seen in the coming flu season and
its obviously not possible to always get that right.

On Mon, 3 May 2021 20:15:53 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


News flash from NYT: The US will never achieve herd immunity.

News flash: that might be because senile blabbermouths like you never manage
to keep your mouths shut for too long! (Those aerosols, you know)

On Mon, 3 May 2021 20:12:58 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


Flu shots have been thoroughly tested for many years. Big difference.


I never had one of those either.

As they say, fortune favours fools, senile farm boy! BG

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Flu shots have been thoroughly tested for many years. Big difference.

Not with the latest influenza strain they havent.

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