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The USPS is monitoring social media. Unconstitutional? Illegal? Maybe just another example of mission creep.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-postal-service-is-running-a-running-a-covert-operations-program-that-monitors-americans-social-media-posts-160022919.html |
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On 4/22/21 4:30 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
The USPS is monitoring social media. Unconstitutional? Illegal? Maybe just another example of mission creep. https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-postal-service-is-running-a-running-a-covert-operations-program-that-monitors-americans-social-media-posts-160022919.html Be better if they deployed all that staff instead to processing and delivering the mail. I believe that is what the post office's mission is, eh what? My mail sometimes comes as late as 8:15 PM with the usual complement of two or three mis-delivered mailpieces per month. -- Name one time in human history when the group seeking to ban books and censor speech were the good guys. I'll wait... |
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On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 13:30:35 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote: The USPS is monitoring social media. Unconstitutional? Illegal? Maybe just another example of mission creep. https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-postal-service-is-running-a-running-a-covert-operations-program-that-monitors-americans-social-media-posts-160022919.html The only way this makes any sense at all is if they were looking for people who might be sending letter bombs or poisons through the mail. Both have happened and it might be a concern for the safety of the postal workers. Other than that it makes no sense. OTOH after 74 trips around the sun I had found out plenty of things the federal government does not have to make sense. |
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On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 6:54:56 PM UTC-4, Wade Garrett wrote:
On 4/22/21 4:30 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote: The USPS is monitoring social media. Unconstitutional? Illegal? Maybe just another example of mission creep. https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-postal-service-is-running-a-running-a-covert-operations-program-that-monitors-americans-social-media-posts-160022919.html Be better if they deployed all that staff instead to processing and delivering the mail. I believe that is what the post office's mission is, eh what? My mail sometimes comes as late as 8:15 PM with the usual complement of two or three mis-delivered mailpieces per month. -- Name one time in human history when the group seeking to ban books and censor speech were the good guys. I'll wait... It's ridiculous that the USPS has resources on this, when they are losing money, closing facilities, instituting cuts on service, etc. Even if they had no problems, there is no justification I see for this. Meanwhile I sent two small first class mail items in the past week that are supposed to have tracking. One I put into a USPS blue mailbox outside the library, the other in the mailbox outside a local post office. Neither shows any tracking. One has been just over a week, the other several days now. It's not unusual for mail not to scan at first. Sometimes it takes a day or two and then it shows up somewhere along it's way and then tracks from there. But I've never seen this before. A friend of mine sent his income tax to the IRS back in January, paid for return receipt/delivery confirmation service. Tracking shows it got there, but he never got a receipt back showing it, like he paid for. And so far the IRS doesn't show they have it either. |
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On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 7:53:19 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 13:30:35 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman wrote: The USPS is monitoring social media. Unconstitutional? Illegal? Maybe just another example of mission creep. https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-postal-service-is-running-a-running-a-covert-operations-program-that-monitors-americans-social-media-posts-160022919.html The only way this makes any sense at all is if they were looking for people who might be sending letter bombs or poisons through the mail. Both have happened and it might be a concern for the safety of the postal workers. Other than that it makes no sense. Even then it makes no sense. We shouldn't have a whole bunch of agencies monitoring the internet for bad actors. We should have one and if they see something, then they should forward it to the appropriate agency to investigate further, if necessary. OTOH after 74 trips around the sun I had found out plenty of things the federal government does not have to make sense. |
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 04:03:04 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 6:54:56 PM UTC-4, Wade Garrett wrote: On 4/22/21 4:30 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote: The USPS is monitoring social media. Unconstitutional? Illegal? Maybe just another example of mission creep. https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-postal-service-is-running-a-running-a-covert-operations-program-that-monitors-americans-social-media-posts-160022919.html Be better if they deployed all that staff instead to processing and delivering the mail. I believe that is what the post office's mission is, eh what? My mail sometimes comes as late as 8:15 PM with the usual complement of two or three mis-delivered mailpieces per month. -- Name one time in human history when the group seeking to ban books and censor speech were the good guys. I'll wait... It's ridiculous that the USPS has resources on this, when they are losing money, closing facilities, instituting cuts on service, etc. Even if they had no problems, there is no justification I see for this. Meanwhile I sent two small first class mail items in the past week that are supposed to have tracking. One I put into a USPS blue mailbox outside the library, the other in the mailbox outside a local post office. Neither shows any tracking. One has been just over a week, the other several days now. It's not unusual for mail not to scan at first. Sometimes it takes a day or two and then it shows up somewhere along it's way and then tracks from there. But I've never seen this before. A friend of mine sent his income tax to the IRS back in January, paid for return receipt/delivery confirmation service. Tracking shows it got there, but he never got a receipt back showing it, like he paid for. And so far the IRS doesn't show they have it either. I am not sure the IRS even honors return receipt mail. I never got a receipt and that was years ago before we started thinking the mail was bad. OTOH I sent a Priority package to the wilds of Northern Michigan that has always taken an extra day and it got there in 4 days, one being Sunday. (In my mailbox on Thursday, delivered on Monday) |
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 04:05:15 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 7:53:19 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 13:30:35 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman wrote: The USPS is monitoring social media. Unconstitutional? Illegal? Maybe just another example of mission creep. https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-postal-service-is-running-a-running-a-covert-operations-program-that-monitors-americans-social-media-posts-160022919.html The only way this makes any sense at all is if they were looking for people who might be sending letter bombs or poisons through the mail. Both have happened and it might be a concern for the safety of the postal workers. Other than that it makes no sense. Even then it makes no sense. We shouldn't have a whole bunch of agencies monitoring the internet for bad actors. We should have one and if they see something, then they should forward it to the appropriate agency to investigate further, if necessary. That is not the government way. These agencies do everything they can to protect their turf and I can see the postal inspectors wanting to do this in house if there is any way at all to come up with a nexus to their mission. OTOH the whole story might be bull**** started by a conspiracy guy who saw something in a postal budget, found some obscure memo and ran with it. Who knows? I am certainly not that worried about postal inspectors reading my dog's Facebook page. If they **** with him he will bite them |
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On 4/22/2021 1:30 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
The USPS is monitoring social media. Unconstitutional? Illegal? Maybe just another example of mission creep. https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-postal-service-is-running-a-running-a-covert-operations-program-that-monitors-americans-social-media-posts-160022919.html Another fine action by trumps boy DeJoy? |
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On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 4:30:38 PM UTC-4, wrote:
The USPS is monitoring social media. Unconstitutional? Illegal? Maybe just another example of mission creep. https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-postal-service-is-running-a-running-a-covert-operations-program-that-monitors-americans-social-media-posts-160022919.html In the past, they've steamed open other peoples' (organization's) letter and stamps, etc... |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 02:12:49 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
wrote: On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 4:30:38 PM UTC-4, wrote: The USPS is monitoring social media. Unconstitutional? Illegal? Maybe just another example of mission creep. https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-postal-service-is-running-a-running-a-covert-operations-program-that-monitors-americans-social-media-posts-160022919.html In the past, they've steamed open other peoples' (organization's) letter and stamps, etc... They don't have to steam anything open. Your mail is all subject to postal inspection at their discretion. |
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On 4/24/2021 9:06 PM, danny burstein wrote:
In writes: On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 02:12:49 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser wrote: On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 4:30:38 PM UTC-4, wrote: The USPS is monitoring social media. Unconstitutional? Illegal? Maybe just another example of mission creep. https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-postal-service-is-running-a-running-a-covert-operations-program-that-monitors-americans-social-media-posts-160022919.html In the past, they've steamed open other peoples' (organization's) letter and stamps, etc... They don't have to steam anything open. Your mail is all subject to postal inspection at their discretion. Nope. The _outside_ is fair game to them. Not the contents, Depends. Some mail can be opened, other mail would need a warrant. Get actual facts he https://faq.usps.com/s/article/Can-my-mail-be-opened |
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In Ed Pawlowski writes:
Nope. The _outside_ is fair game to them. Not the contents, Depends. Some mail can be opened, other mail would need a warrant. Get actual facts he https://faq.usps.com/s/article/Can-my-mail-be-opened Which confrims my point. "First class mail", for which full postage has been paid, is NOT searchable under normal circumstances. -- __________________________________________________ ___ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] |
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On 4/24/2021 9:32 PM, danny burstein wrote:
In Ed Pawlowski writes: Nope. The _outside_ is fair game to them. Not the contents, Depends. Some mail can be opened, other mail would need a warrant. Get actual facts he https://faq.usps.com/s/article/Can-my-mail-be-opened Which confrims my point. "First class mail", for which full postage has been paid, is NOT searchable under normal circumstances. Watch a couple of "To Catch A Smuggler" on Nat Geo and you can see packages getting opened both mail and freight. Dogs, X-ray and hunches catch a lot of illegal stuff. |
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 14:24:26 -0700, Bob F posted for all of us to digest... On 4/22/2021 1:30 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote: The USPS is monitoring social media. Unconstitutional? Illegal? Maybe just another example of mission creep. https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-postal-service-is-running-a-running-a-covert-operations-program-that-monitors-americans-social-media-posts-160022919.html Another fine action by trumps boy DeJoy? Give it a rest Bob, Biden likes him so you be ok. -- Tekkie |
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