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wrote in message ... On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 05:26:13 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:24:10 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 4/14/21 7:06 AM, Vic Smith wrote: [snip] I gave up marking calls spam on my Ooma after realizing the numbers are endless. Now I just pick up and hang up if it's not a known caller. If a home phone with caller ID, you don't need to pick up to know. Most of these junk calls are obvious when you look at the name on the display. Often a city and state like "CENTER TX". Those are almost all junk calls. There's also TOLL FREE CALL. I don't know why there are no CID-name based blockers. That could really help, especially with pattern matching. "* TX" could block a lot of those calls. That national no-call list was nice - when it still worked. Yes it was. I remember when that service was started. Almost no junk calls. I never stopped getting calls from local businesses in spite of being on the national and Florida no call list. Reporting them did not seem to do much. I am not sure what loophole they exploited but I never heard about any of them getting it trouble. I was pretty aggressive about trying to fill out that form but the real scammers must have key words they look for because no matter how long you talk or how you work around the questions they figure out you are harvesting the information you need and they hang up. You must have ****ed that up. All you have to do is agree that you need what they are trying to flog. They have to tell you who they are for you to be able to show up in their store or pay for what they are flogging on the phone. It depends on the scam. Sometimes they just want you to give up some personal information and they are not really selling you anything. But you were talking about local hardware businesses. No point in reporting the other ones, they are calling from outside the country and there is nothing the FTC can do about them. |
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:27:24 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 4/13/21 7:39 PM, Jim Joyce wrote: [snip] Use a number from a non-local Area Code, then ignore all calls from that Area Code. That has been extremely effective for me. I get a few junk calls from my area code and a lot of calls from other areas. This wouldn't be a very good solution. Looking at the CID name is still a much better solution. Sorry, but that's no solution at all. They can, and do, put whatever they want into the CID field. |
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:24:10 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:
I gave up marking calls spam on my Ooma after realizing the numbers are endless. Now I just pick up and hang up if it's not a known caller. If a home phone with caller ID, you don't need to pick up to know. Most of these junk calls are obvious when you look at the name on the display. Often a city and state like "CENTER TX". Those are almost all junk calls. There's also TOLL FREE CALL. I don't know why there are no CID-name based blockers. That could really help, especially with pattern matching. "* TX" could block a lot of those calls. You live in TX, so yes of course many of your calls appear to come from TX. I don't live in TX but I use a TX number, so many/most of my junk calls also appear to come from TX. Scammers know you're much more likely to answer a call when you recognize the Area Code, and even more so when you recognize the exchange. Bottom line, a CID name based blocker would be ineffective. It's way too easy to spoof the CID info. |
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 19:03:03 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to digest... On 4/14/2021 5:40 PM, Tekkie? wrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 11:01:11 -0400, Retirednoguilt posted for all of us to digest... I assume you don't have caller I.D. If your line is purely residential, consider letting all calls go to voice mail/answering machine possibly screening them as the messages are left. Never pick up or return the spam calls. We've never had a live person spam caller leave a message. The above strategy may or may not be a practical solution if the line is used for business purposes. If you do have caller I.D. our panasonic wireless system allows you to sort incoming calls from numbers in the phone's directory into as many as 5 categories and you can assign a different ring tone to each category. We have all numbers from callers we consider "important" assigned to one ringtone and all other numbers to another. Important calls get answered. All the others are left to go to voice mail. About 90% of all those calls are either robo calls that sneak through NOMOROBO and Comcast and leave their recorded junk, or are live person spam calls and no message is left. I do have caller ID and follow what you do. It is my wife that has the compulsion to know what every call is. Easy solution. She answers the phone. Nah, she's too busy cookin or wash'n -- Tekkie |
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Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 07:34:23 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- Richard addressing senile Rodent Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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On Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 4:46:56 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 19:03:03 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to digest... On 4/14/2021 5:40 PM, Tekkie? wrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 11:01:11 -0400, Retirednoguilt posted for all of us to digest... I assume you don't have caller I.D. If your line is purely residential, consider letting all calls go to voice mail/answering machine possibly screening them as the messages are left. Never pick up or return the spam calls. We've never had a live person spam caller leave a message. The above strategy may or may not be a practical solution if the line is used for business purposes. If you do have caller I.D. our panasonic wireless system allows you to sort incoming calls from numbers in the phone's directory into as many as 5 categories and you can assign a different ring tone to each category. We have all numbers from callers we consider "important" assigned to one ringtone and all other numbers to another. Important calls get answered. All the others are left to go to voice mail. About 90% of all those calls are either robo calls that sneak through NOMOROBO and Comcast and leave their recorded junk, or are live person spam calls and no message is left. I do have caller ID and follow what you do. It is my wife that has the compulsion to know what every call is. Easy solution. She answers the phone. Nah, she's too busy cookin or wash'n That's why my dad would yell "telephone" so Mom wouldn't miss it. He didn't get out of his chair. It was always for her anyhow. |
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More Heavy Trolling by the Senile Octogenarian Nym-Shifting Ozzie Cretin!
On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 08:12:15 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile cretin's latest troll**** unread -- John addressing the senile Australian pest: "You are a complete idiot. But you make me larf. LOL" MID: |
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 07:34:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 05:26:13 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:24:10 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 4/14/21 7:06 AM, Vic Smith wrote: [snip] I gave up marking calls spam on my Ooma after realizing the numbers are endless. Now I just pick up and hang up if it's not a known caller. If a home phone with caller ID, you don't need to pick up to know. Most of these junk calls are obvious when you look at the name on the display. Often a city and state like "CENTER TX". Those are almost all junk calls. There's also TOLL FREE CALL. I don't know why there are no CID-name based blockers. That could really help, especially with pattern matching. "* TX" could block a lot of those calls. That national no-call list was nice - when it still worked. Yes it was. I remember when that service was started. Almost no junk calls. I never stopped getting calls from local businesses in spite of being on the national and Florida no call list. Reporting them did not seem to do much. I am not sure what loophole they exploited but I never heard about any of them getting it trouble. I was pretty aggressive about trying to fill out that form but the real scammers must have key words they look for because no matter how long you talk or how you work around the questions they figure out you are harvesting the information you need and they hang up. You must have ****ed that up. All you have to do is agree that you need what they are trying to flog. They have to tell you who they are for you to be able to show up in their store or pay for what they are flogging on the phone. It depends on the scam. Sometimes they just want you to give up some personal information and they are not really selling you anything. But you were talking about local hardware businesses. No point in reporting the other ones, they are calling from outside the country and there is nothing the FTC can do about them. I said local business. I never said hardware. They usually want to inspect my roof, ice pick my air conditioner, sell me a ticket to the policeman's ball or something. Nobody ever says where they are calling from. |
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 16:46:48 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote: On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:24:10 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote: I gave up marking calls spam on my Ooma after realizing the numbers are endless. Now I just pick up and hang up if it's not a known caller. If a home phone with caller ID, you don't need to pick up to know. Most of these junk calls are obvious when you look at the name on the display. Often a city and state like "CENTER TX". Those are almost all junk calls. There's also TOLL FREE CALL. I don't know why there are no CID-name based blockers. That could really help, especially with pattern matching. "* TX" could block a lot of those calls. You live in TX, so yes of course many of your calls appear to come from TX. I don't live in TX but I use a TX number, so many/most of my junk calls also appear to come from TX. Scammers know you're much more likely to answer a call when you recognize the Area Code, and even more so when you recognize the exchange. Bottom line, a CID name based blocker would be ineffective. It's way too easy to spoof the CID info. I used to get calls from my own number back when I looked at Caller IDs. |
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On 4/15/21 4:41 PM, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:27:24 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 4/13/21 7:39 PM, Jim Joyce wrote: [snip] Use a number from a non-local Area Code, then ignore all calls from that Area Code. That has been extremely effective for me. I get a few junk calls from my area code and a lot of calls from other areas. This wouldn't be a very good solution. Looking at the CID name is still a much better solution. Sorry, but that's no solution at all. They can, and do, put whatever they want into the CID field. Usually, they don't seem to care. I don't remember ever getting a junk call that had the name of a person or business I wanted to hear from. So, looking at the CID name is STILL mostly effective. Not 100%, but more like 97%. Using a non-local area code would be much less effective (considering junk calls I actually get). -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "I have been looking for god for fifty years and I think if he had existed I should have discovered him." -- Thomas Hardy |
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On 4/15/21 4:46 PM, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:24:10 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote: I gave up marking calls spam on my Ooma after realizing the numbers are endless. Now I just pick up and hang up if it's not a known caller. If a home phone with caller ID, you don't need to pick up to know. Most of these junk calls are obvious when you look at the name on the display. Often a city and state like "CENTER TX". Those are almost all junk calls. There's also TOLL FREE CALL. I don't know why there are no CID-name based blockers. That could really help, especially with pattern matching. "* TX" could block a lot of those calls. You live in TX, so yes of course many of your calls appear to come from TX. I don't live in TX but I use a TX number, so many/most of my junk calls also appear to come from TX. Scammers know you're much more likely to answer a call when you recognize the Area Code, and even more so when you recognize the exchange. I get many junk calls that say they/re from other states as well. Bottom line, a CID name based blocker would be ineffective. It's way too easy to spoof the CID info. IT is NOT ineffective. Just looking at the CID on my phone, I see junk calls from: DYNATA CURLEW WA ECTOR TX ATOKA OK HOUSTON TX BULLHEAD CTY AZ Out of area (often with a number) HAWKINS TX DAINGERFIELD TX WHITEWRIGHT TX HENDERSON TX MASON OH ATHENS TX BLOSSOM TX FRANKSTON TX TYLER TX ONCE I got a legitimate call with such an ID (local burn ban notice), but every other time it has been junk. Working pretty well for a "useless" system. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "I have been looking for god for fifty years and I think if he had existed I should have discovered him." -- Thomas Hardy |
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On 4/15/21 6:33 PM, wrote:
[snip] Bottom line, a CID name based blocker would be ineffective. It's way too easy to spoof the CID info. I used to get calls from my own number back when I looked at Caller IDs. I get those calls on my cell phone, that appear to be from my home phone. It seems to be an attempt to trick me into thinking I'm calling my voicemail. The first couple of seconds are cut off (a common thing for robocallers too stupid to WAIT FOR THE BEEP). Then the robotic voice sounds drunk. Looking at the caller ID on a home phone has been VERY effective at identifying junk calls. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "I have been looking for god for fifty years and I think if he had existed I should have discovered him." -- Thomas Hardy |
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 11:34:06 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 4/15/21 4:41 PM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:27:24 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 4/13/21 7:39 PM, Jim Joyce wrote: [snip] Use a number from a non-local Area Code, then ignore all calls from that Area Code. That has been extremely effective for me. I get a few junk calls from my area code and a lot of calls from other areas. This wouldn't be a very good solution. Looking at the CID name is still a much better solution. Sorry, but that's no solution at all. They can, and do, put whatever they want into the CID field. Usually, they don't seem to care. I don't remember ever getting a junk call that had the name of a person or business I wanted to hear from. So, looking at the CID name is STILL mostly effective. Not 100%, but more like 97%. Using a non-local area code would be much less effective (considering junk calls I actually get). Your experience is very different from mine. What works for you wouldn't work for me. |
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