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micky March 12th 21 03:13 AM

USB always on
 
I have an Acer E15 E5 laptop two usb3 ports and one usb2, and when I
plug a flashdrive into one of the USB3 (but not the other ports) it
lights up even when the computer is off, and when it's not plugged in.
What's with that?

I've never seen this mentioned in a spec. Is it about waking up the
laptop? (Will this be true on my desktop too?) I've heard of wake-up on
LAN and iirc wake-up on phone (???), but not wake-up on USB.

Ralph Phillips March 12th 21 03:24 AM

USB always on
 
On 3/11/2021 9:13 PM, micky wrote:
I have an Acer E15 E5 laptop two usb3 ports and one usb2, and when I
plug a flashdrive into one of the USB3 (but not the other ports) it
lights up even when the computer is off, and when it's not plugged in.
What's with that?

I've never seen this mentioned in a spec. Is it about waking up the
laptop? (Will this be true on my desktop too?) I've heard of wake-up on
LAN and iirc wake-up on phone (???), but not wake-up on USB.


That's a port designed to charge cell phones etc. even when the laptop
is off or unplugged from AC.

RwP


Clare Snyder March 12th 21 04:22 AM

USB always on
 
On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 22:13:09 -0500, micky
wrote:

I have an Acer E15 E5 laptop two usb3 ports and one usb2, and when I
plug a flashdrive into one of the USB3 (but not the other ports) it
lights up even when the computer is off, and when it's not plugged in.
What's with that?

I've never seen this mentioned in a spec. Is it about waking up the
laptop? (Will this be true on my desktop too?) I've heard of wake-up on
LAN and iirc wake-up on phone (???), but not wake-up on USB.

If you check the spec there is often ine listed as "always on" and is
usefull for charging wireless mouse, sell phone, etc without computer
turned on Almost all new Acer and Lenovo laptops/notebooks have at
least one "always on"

micky March 12th 21 05:27 AM

USB always on
 
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 11 Mar 2021 23:22:03 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 22:13:09 -0500, micky
wrote:

I have an Acer E15 E5 laptop two usb3 ports and one usb2, and when I
plug a flashdrive into one of the USB3 (but not the other ports) it
lights up even when the computer is off, and when it's not plugged in.
What's with that?

I've never seen this mentioned in a spec. Is it about waking up the
laptop? (Will this be true on my desktop too?) I've heard of wake-up on
LAN and iirc wake-up on phone (???), but not wake-up on USB.

If you check the spec there is often ine listed as "always on" and is
usefull for charging wireless mouse, sell phone, etc without computer
turned on Almost all new Acer and Lenovo laptops/notebooks have at
least one "always on"


Nobody tells me anything!! And I don't read enough specs, I guess,
though I did look at the ones for this computer. I have to look again.

And yes, it is a good idea.

Tnx Clare and Ralph.

Rod Speed March 12th 21 05:43 AM

USB always on
 
micky wrote

I have an Acer E15 E5 laptop two usb3 ports and one usb2,
and when I plug a flashdrive into one of the USB3 (but not
the other ports) it lights up even when the computer is off,
and when it's not plugged in. What's with that?


Its done like that so you can have wake on keyboard or mouse.

I've never seen this mentioned in a spec.


Its common with the best desktop motherboard manuals.

Is it about waking up the laptop?


Yep, when you have a keyboard or mouse plugged into that port.

(Will this be true on my desktop too?)


Yep.

I've heard of wake-up on LAN and iirc wake-up
on phone (???), but not wake-up on USB.


Its normally called wake on mouse or keyboard.
Obviously with usb keyboards and mice.

micky March 12th 21 06:32 AM

USB always on
 
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 12 Mar 2021 16:43:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

micky wrote

I have an Acer E15 E5 laptop two usb3 ports and one usb2,
and when I plug a flashdrive into one of the USB3 (but not
the other ports) it lights up even when the computer is off,
and when it's not plugged in. What's with that?


Its done like that so you can have wake on keyboard or mouse.


That could be good.

I've never seen this mentioned in a spec.


Its common with the best desktop motherboard manuals.

Is it about waking up the laptop?


Yep, when you have a keyboard or mouse plugged into that port.

(Will this be true on my desktop too?)


Yep.

I've heard of wake-up on LAN and iirc wake-up
on phone (???), but not wake-up on USB.


Its normally called wake on mouse or keyboard.
Obviously with usb keyboards and mice.


That would have attracted my attention even more, using words I know
like mouse and keyboard. (I still have trouble with high tech like USB,
so I skim over them. )

But this is good. I always use and external mouse and keyboard, so I'll
plug one of them into that jack.

Haha, the only reason I plugged it in was because I was trying to see if
I could plug in two things side by side. Flashdrives are narrow but
this laptop has no 3.5mm jacks, so I need** a USB to 3.5 adapter and
they have an amazing amount of circuity in them which makes them either
0.79 or 0.81 inches, except for the first one below which puts the
electronics at the 3.5mm end, not the USB end.

narrow one
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...T49GGF3B&psc=1
wider one
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...TGSOMSJG&psc=1
This one and another one push the fact that they are narrower than
some others, but they're still wider than one above that puts the
electronics at the other end!

**Wait!! I fixed the desktop so I don't need the laptop while I'm home.
I'll talk about that in another thread.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...T49GGF3B&psc=1

micky March 12th 21 09:54 AM

USB always on
 
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 11 Mar 2021 22:13:09 -0500, micky
wrote:

I have an Acer E15 E5 laptop two usb3 ports and one usb2, and when I
plug a flashdrive into one of the USB3 (but not the other ports) it
lights up even when the computer is off, and when it's not plugged in.
What's with that?

I've never seen this mentioned in a spec. Is it about waking up the
laptop? (Will this be true on my desktop too?) I've heard of wake-up on
LAN and iirc wake-up on phone (???), but not wake-up on USB.


It does say it in the owner's manual. I read it but didn't understand
what it meant: "USB port with power-off charging"

On page 57 it says "Some USB 3.0 ports support charging devices
when the computer is in Hibernate or turned off.", but I hadn't read
that.


And there's a headset/speaker jack too. I forgot I'd read that and the
little hole is hardly noticeable.

Rod Speed March 12th 21 02:06 PM

USB always on
 


"micky" wrote in message
...
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 12 Mar 2021 16:43:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

micky wrote

I have an Acer E15 E5 laptop two usb3 ports and one usb2,
and when I plug a flashdrive into one of the USB3 (but not
the other ports) it lights up even when the computer is off,
and when it's not plugged in. What's with that?


Its done like that so you can have wake on keyboard or mouse.


That could be good.

I've never seen this mentioned in a spec.


Its common with the best desktop motherboard manuals.

Is it about waking up the laptop?


Yep, when you have a keyboard or mouse plugged into that port.

(Will this be true on my desktop too?)


Yep.

I've heard of wake-up on LAN and iirc wake-up
on phone (???), but not wake-up on USB.


Its normally called wake on mouse or keyboard.
Obviously with usb keyboards and mice.


That would have attracted my attention even more, using words I know
like mouse and keyboard. (I still have trouble with high tech like USB,
so I skim over them. )

But this is good. I always use and external mouse and keyboard, so I'll
plug one of them into that jack.

Haha, the only reason I plugged it in was because I was trying to see if
I could plug in two things side by side. Flashdrives are narrow but
this laptop has no 3.5mm jacks, so I need** a USB to 3.5 adapter and
they have an amazing amount of circuity in them which makes them either
0.79 or 0.81 inches, except for the first one below which puts the
electronics at the 3.5mm end, not the USB end.

narrow one
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...T49GGF3B&psc=1
wider one
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...TGSOMSJG&psc=1
This one and another one push the fact that they are narrower than
some others, but they're still wider than one above that puts the
electronics at the other end!


That problem is trivially fixed by using a tiny usb extension cord or a usb
hub.

**Wait!! I fixed the desktop so I don't need the laptop while I'm home.
I'll talk about that in another thread.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...T49GGF3B&psc=1



Peeler[_4_] March 12th 21 03:14 PM

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 01:06:13 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

01:06??? And you are up and trolling ALREADY, yet AGAIN? Or are you STILL
up? Always hard to tell with you obnoxious sleepless trolling senile
asshole!

--
about senile Rot Speed:
"This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage."
MID:

Clare Snyder March 12th 21 05:02 PM

USB always on
 
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 04:54:46 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 11 Mar 2021 22:13:09 -0500, micky
wrote:

I have an Acer E15 E5 laptop two usb3 ports and one usb2, and when I
plug a flashdrive into one of the USB3 (but not the other ports) it
lights up even when the computer is off, and when it's not plugged in.
What's with that?

I've never seen this mentioned in a spec. Is it about waking up the
laptop? (Will this be true on my desktop too?) I've heard of wake-up on
LAN and iirc wake-up on phone (???), but not wake-up on USB.


It does say it in the owner's manual. I read it but didn't understand
what it meant: "USB port with power-off charging"

On page 57 it says "Some USB 3.0 ports support charging devices
when the computer is in Hibernate or turned off.", but I hadn't read
that.


And there's a headset/speaker jack too. I forgot I'd read that and the
little hole is hardly noticeable.

Surprising how "smart" you can get if you RTFM, isn't it???

micky March 12th 21 09:02 PM

USB always on
 
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 12 Mar 2021 12:02:23 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 04:54:46 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 11 Mar 2021 22:13:09 -0500, micky
wrote:

I have an Acer E15 E5 laptop two usb3 ports and one usb2, and when I
plug a flashdrive into one of the USB3 (but not the other ports) it
lights up even when the computer is off, and when it's not plugged in.
What's with that?

I've never seen this mentioned in a spec. Is it about waking up the
laptop? (Will this be true on my desktop too?) I've heard of wake-up on
LAN and iirc wake-up on phone (???), but not wake-up on USB.


It does say it in the owner's manual. I read it but didn't understand
what it meant: "USB port with power-off charging"

On page 57 it says "Some USB 3.0 ports support charging devices
when the computer is in Hibernate or turned off.", but I hadn't read
that.


And there's a headset/speaker jack too. I forgot I'd read that and the
little hole is hardly noticeable.

Surprising how "smart" you can get if you RTFM, isn't it???


It was 87 pages!

[email protected] March 12th 21 09:55 PM

USB always on
 
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 16:02:22 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 12 Mar 2021 12:02:23 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 04:54:46 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 11 Mar 2021 22:13:09 -0500, micky
wrote:

I have an Acer E15 E5 laptop two usb3 ports and one usb2, and when I
plug a flashdrive into one of the USB3 (but not the other ports) it
lights up even when the computer is off, and when it's not plugged in.
What's with that?

I've never seen this mentioned in a spec. Is it about waking up the
laptop? (Will this be true on my desktop too?) I've heard of wake-up on
LAN and iirc wake-up on phone (???), but not wake-up on USB.

It does say it in the owner's manual. I read it but didn't understand
what it meant: "USB port with power-off charging"

On page 57 it says "Some USB 3.0 ports support charging devices
when the computer is in Hibernate or turned off.", but I hadn't read
that.


And there's a headset/speaker jack too. I forgot I'd read that and the
little hole is hardly noticeable.

Surprising how "smart" you can get if you RTFM, isn't it???


It was 87 pages!


Not exactly "War and Peace" and it was probably in 3 languages with
10-15 pages of warnings and disclaimers.
I just downloaded the PDF for my MIG welder and by the time I took out
all the Spanish, French and lawyer inspired BS a 54 page book ended up
being about 10 pages, including the cover art and warranty page..

micky March 13th 21 12:03 AM

USB always on
 
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 12 Mar 2021 16:55:18 -0500,
wrote:


It does say it in the owner's manual. I read it but didn't understand
what it meant: "USB port with power-off charging"

On page 57 it says "Some USB 3.0 ports support charging devices
when the computer is in Hibernate or turned off.", but I hadn't read
that.


And there's a headset/speaker jack too. I forgot I'd read that and the
little hole is hardly noticeable.
Surprising how "smart" you can get if you RTFM, isn't it???


It was 87 pages!


Not exactly "War and Peace" and it was probably in 3 languages with
10-15 pages of warnings and disclaimers.


No, no, 87 pages of English and less than 15 of warnings. Plus until a
couple days ago I wasn't positive I'd get this to work. Still have
parts that need testing.

I just downloaded the PDF for my MIG welder and by the time I took out
all the Spanish, French and lawyer inspired BS a 54 page book ended up
being about 10 pages, including the cover art and warranty page..



Xeno March 13th 21 12:58 AM

USB always on
 
On 13/3/21 8:02 am, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 12 Mar 2021 12:02:23 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 04:54:46 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 11 Mar 2021 22:13:09 -0500, micky
wrote:

I have an Acer E15 E5 laptop two usb3 ports and one usb2, and when I
plug a flashdrive into one of the USB3 (but not the other ports) it
lights up even when the computer is off, and when it's not plugged in.
What's with that?

I've never seen this mentioned in a spec. Is it about waking up the
laptop? (Will this be true on my desktop too?) I've heard of wake-up on
LAN and iirc wake-up on phone (???), but not wake-up on USB.

It does say it in the owner's manual. I read it but didn't understand
what it meant: "USB port with power-off charging"

On page 57 it says "Some USB 3.0 ports support charging devices
when the computer is in Hibernate or turned off.", but I hadn't read
that.


And there's a headset/speaker jack too. I forgot I'd read that and the
little hole is hardly noticeable.

Surprising how "smart" you can get if you RTFM, isn't it???


It was 87 pages!

Just a quick read then, eh?

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

Clare Snyder March 13th 21 03:18 AM

USB always on
 
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 16:02:22 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 12 Mar 2021 12:02:23 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 04:54:46 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 11 Mar 2021 22:13:09 -0500, micky
wrote:

I have an Acer E15 E5 laptop two usb3 ports and one usb2, and when I
plug a flashdrive into one of the USB3 (but not the other ports) it
lights up even when the computer is off, and when it's not plugged in.
What's with that?

I've never seen this mentioned in a spec. Is it about waking up the
laptop? (Will this be true on my desktop too?) I've heard of wake-up on
LAN and iirc wake-up on phone (???), but not wake-up on USB.

It does say it in the owner's manual. I read it but didn't understand
what it meant: "USB port with power-off charging"

On page 57 it says "Some USB 3.0 ports support charging devices
when the computer is in Hibernate or turned off.", but I hadn't read
that.


And there's a headset/speaker jack too. I forgot I'd read that and the
little hole is hardly noticeable.

Surprising how "smart" you can get if you RTFM, isn't it???


It was 87 pages!

That's what an index and table of contents is for


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