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Herd Immunity in April?
wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Feb 2021 06:22:47 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:55:45 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 11:52:41 -0700, rbowman wrote: On 02/21/2021 02:31 AM, Neill Massello wrote: On 2021-02-20 at 10:47:24 MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote: We already know that there is **** all herd immunity in the places stupid enough to just let the virus rip like Sweden. Michael Osterholm, of the University of Minnesota's CIDRAP, has pointed out that rosy predictions about herd immunity were blown out of the water by what happened in prisons, where the virus didn't slow down until nearly all the prisoners had been infected. otoh, the Marion facility in Ohio had around 2000 positive cases, most of which were asymptomatic. I could never get hard figures on the deaths but despite having an aging prison population they were minimal. Had the cells been filled with dying prisoners the media would have been all over it. Since the US Covid survival rate is ~99.8% IDK where you got that number. I see 500K dead, 28 mil cases, that's 1.7%. Even if you account for some number of cases never identified, I don't see any credible sources saying the death rate is only 0.2%. Not here or anywhere. It is based on a projection of the number of people who got Covid, got better spontaneously and were never tested. So a number straight from someone's arse. I can't find the article right now but it was based on positive antibody tests in people who never presented at a doctor or went to a hospital. Don't believe that with your 10:1 ratio. I suppose Bowman's observation about the fatalities or lack thereof at Marion tends to verify that. Nope, the demographics and exposure there are totally different. That's why the Marion data was such dramatic news, stupid. Three or 4 dead inmates is not going to make the news. Forty would. Pity about the demographics. |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 04:49:48 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile pest's latest troll**** unread -- Keema Nam addressing nym-shifting senile Rodent: "You are now exposed as a liar, as well as an ignorant troll." "MID: .com" |
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Herd Immunity in April?
In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 21 Feb 2021 18:49:06 -0000 (UTC), Neill
Massello wrote: On 2021-02-21 at 10:32:59 MST, "Muggles" wrote: Herd immunity happens in an open environment where NOT all people actually get infected. Herd immunity happens in ANY environment — eventually. The question is how many members of a herd must get infected (or vaccinated) before their immunity or death serves to protect the remaining members of the herd from infection. By reducing the other variables such as distancing, the prison "experiment" shows that the number for SARS-CoV-2 is MUCH higher than Makary's 55%. |
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Herd Immunity in April?
"Neill Massello" wrote in message ... On 2021-02-21 at 10:32:59 MST, "Muggles" wrote: Herd immunity happens in an open environment where NOT all people actually get infected. Herd immunity happens in ANY environment €” eventually. No it does not. That isnt what happened with smallpox, polio, typhoid or even measles now without vaccination. The question is how many members of a herd must get infected (or vaccinated) before their immunity serves to protect the remaining members of the herd from infection. By reducing the other variables such as distancing, the prison "experiment" shows that the number for SARS-CoV-2 is MUCH higher than Makary's 55%. Yep. And even the places like sweden which just let covid rip didnt get anything like 50%, let alone the 80% you need for covid to no longer be a problem. |
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"Who or What is Rod Speed?"
"Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard man" on the InterNet." https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ -- Richard addressing senile Rodent Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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