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On Mar 14, 2021 at 11:31:06 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 20:38:15 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 9, 2021 at 12:49:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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...

I go back and forth with no real issue -- knowing to use control on Windows
and ChromeOS and Command on macOS. The few times I use a terminal on Linux or
Windows it always seems weird the "standard" copy and paste does not work. I
get why.

What doesn't work?

Terminals use things like Control+C to abort (terminate) a processes. You try
to copy and you literally kill whatever process (app) you are using! Some
processes will thankfully warn you and you do not lose everything, but the
concept is absurd. The UNIX way was first... then Apple used the Command key
(they used to call it the Open Apple key) and then Windows and later Linux
copied the Mac but did it in a way where they used the UNIX keys to do the
wrong thing. On Windows that is not quite so bad, but Linux is a UNIX clone.

Ah, I do copy and paste from command prompts in windows, but I've never tried doing it incorrectly (that sounds German). I highlight and press enter. Paste works as normal. But then I used to use DOS and CTRL-C for "break" is embedded in my head. And the earlier command prompts in Windows didn't allow pasting, so when it came in I remembered the highlight and enter method.


It is not that big of a deal, especially given how being command line it gives
a mental context change -- but why not have it be the same for both?


Because one of them would have to change. Presumably nobody thought of it at the time, or they developed in tandem seperately.


The UNIX convention was there long before the GUI hit key conventions. Apple
did it right... they created a new hot key for the GUI. Windows copied the
Mac, but went to the UNIX hot key, and when they did that they created
overlap.



Also do not like the weird hand calisthenics needed with Control,
though not a big deal.

I press the CTRL with my little finger, and the X/C/V with my first finger. I'd find CMD in the wrong place - next to spacebar isn't it? Too close.

I use my thumb for the Command key... and out of habit do so when on Windows
or Linux, so yeah, I likely am having the issue because I do it wrong. I also
am a CRAPPY typist... the "normal" way uses so many fingers!

Thumb on Command means V is too far for my first finger to reach, unless you have longer fingers than me.


The Command button is right next to the space bar. Z, X, C, and V are right
about it.


Your keyboard seems to have the spacebar further right than a PC. That would make me keep missing the space. Typical Apple, to **** with standards.


I have an Apple keyboard, but it works fine with pretty much any keyboard.
Apple set the desktop standard for where the "added" key was... MS did not
follow until 1994 when they added the "Windows key".


Is it true longer fingers and longer toes mean a longer cock?


I only have myself as an example.


Get out more :-)


I did not compare even before the pandemic. Finger sizes or other.


I usually do a quick test post before I send in anger (as it were!)



I have been hitting the "send" button as my brain registers an error and
screams "NOOOOOOOO!"

On forums which allow editing, I get lazy and just send, then proofread and adjust it. Sometimes I make so many adjustments, and someone replies so quickly, that they reply to something I've no longer written, or miss out on more information I added.

I have done that.

How many have you been banned from?

A few on Facebook... groups that are supposed to be "debate" or "political"
groups -- but are run by right wingers. All it takes is posting links to fact
checking sites, or scientific sites, to get many right wingers angered.

I keep ****ing off the left wingers (and pro-vaxxers) in imgur. My score is now -220, which apparently is still "neutral".

I tend to fact check things people post. That irks some.

I refuse to spend much time proving an idiot wrong.


I spend too much time doing so.


I noticed. Particularly with Dustin.


He, along with Carroll, are on auto-read. I should put Pothead there, given
how he is likely a Carroll sock... or at the very least tries to emulate
Carroll in posting almost nothing but insane attacks.

Speaking of being a crappy typists, I have no idea what error I made, but the
autocorrect changed "irks" to "girls". Um, what?

It remembers how often you use that term and deems it likely, my phone does the same when sending texts. Just what websites have you been using? Better get a VPN or someone like diesel will out you.


I do not type "girls" often, but I do have a VPN. Don't use it much.


It's handy if you get banned from a forum. I'm also an Italian :-) Changed my writing style too.


I use it to get to some BBC content. Shhhh.... don't tell them.

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On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 18:59:50 GMT, **** the git, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again:


I have an Apple keyboard


Above all you got the unwashed Scottish ******'s unwashed cock in your gob,
yet again, senile cocksucker! That's what I call TRUE passion! True SENILE
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On 03/14/2021 12:36 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 01:10:35 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/13/2021 01:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 03:22:01 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/08/2021 11:41 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 20:13:48 -0000, Snit
wrote:

On Mar 6, 2021 at 11:47:22 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Fri, 05 Mar 2021 02:30:48 -0000, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/04/2021 11:37 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 04 Mar 2021 02:41:52 -0000, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/03/2021 01:36 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 21:48:03 -0000, rbowman

wrote:

On 02/21/2021 12:01 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

That reminds me of a theif's slogan: Spectacles, testicles,
wallet and
watch.

That's a Catholic thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqXZ9YoRD50

Ah! That's where I heard it! They probably invented it.

It was around long before Python, along with god's phone number


https://patricktreardon.com/gods-phone-number/

Google translate says "Et cum spiritu tuo" means "And with your
spirit",
but I think it means the altar boys are asking for a quickie
with the
priest.

You really need google translate for a simple Latin phrase? Modern
education is grand. Anybody who wasn't destined to be a burger
flipper
took at least two years of Latin at my high school. We would argue
over
the pronunciation with the kids from Catholic High.

Why is America still teaching Latin? It's not used in everyday
society.

People DO still travel to Latin America!

Isn't that where the sexy well tanned Latino girls live? Who speak
er.... Spanish.

Not in Rio they don't...

Portugese, or in another words Spanish.


Portugal and Spain might have something so say about that.


It's just like Wales and England isn't it?


Ydych chi'n siarad cymreag?

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On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 01:10:35 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/13/2021 01:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 03:22:01 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/08/2021 11:41 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 20:13:48 -0000, Snit
wrote:

On Mar 6, 2021 at 11:47:22 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Fri, 05 Mar 2021 02:30:48 -0000, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/04/2021 11:37 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 04 Mar 2021 02:41:52 -0000, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/03/2021 01:36 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 21:48:03 -0000, rbowman

wrote:

On 02/21/2021 12:01 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

That reminds me of a theif's slogan: Spectacles, testicles,
wallet and
watch.

That's a Catholic thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqXZ9YoRD50

Ah! That's where I heard it! They probably invented it.

It was around long before Python, along with god's phone number


https://patricktreardon.com/gods-phone-number/

Google translate says "Et cum spiritu tuo" means "And with your
spirit",
but I think it means the altar boys are asking for a quickie
with the
priest.

You really need google translate for a simple Latin phrase? Modern
education is grand. Anybody who wasn't destined to be a burger
flipper
took at least two years of Latin at my high school. We would argue
over
the pronunciation with the kids from Catholic High.

Why is America still teaching Latin? It's not used in everyday
society.

People DO still travel to Latin America!

Isn't that where the sexy well tanned Latino girls live? Who speak
er.... Spanish.

Not in Rio they don't...

Portugese, or in another words Spanish.


Portugal and Spain might have something so say about that.


It's just like Wales and England isn't it?


Nope, neither is dying out.

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On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 14:25:04 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


It's just like Wales and England isn't it?


Ydych chi'n siarad cymreag?


He LOVES it when you talk while you are sucking him off, lowbrowwoman! And
you obviously love it too!


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On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 07:42:51 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather

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Typical retarded "conversation" between the Scottish ****** and the senile
Ozzietard:

Birdbrain: "Horse **** doesn't stink."

Senile Rodent: "It does if you roll in it."

Birdbrain: "I've never worked out why, I assumed it was maybe meateaters
that made stinky ****, but then why does vegetarian human **** stink? Is it
just the fact that we're capable of digesting meat?"

Senile Rodent: "Nope, some cow **** stinks too."

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On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:25:04 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/14/2021 12:36 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 01:10:35 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/13/2021 01:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 03:22:01 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/08/2021 11:41 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 20:13:48 -0000, Snit
wrote:

On Mar 6, 2021 at 11:47:22 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Fri, 05 Mar 2021 02:30:48 -0000, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/04/2021 11:37 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 04 Mar 2021 02:41:52 -0000, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/03/2021 01:36 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 21:48:03 -0000, rbowman

wrote:

On 02/21/2021 12:01 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

That reminds me of a theif's slogan: Spectacles, testicles,
wallet and
watch.

That's a Catholic thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqXZ9YoRD50

Ah! That's where I heard it! They probably invented it.

It was around long before Python, along with god's phone number


https://patricktreardon.com/gods-phone-number/

Google translate says "Et cum spiritu tuo" means "And with your
spirit",
but I think it means the altar boys are asking for a quickie
with the
priest.

You really need google translate for a simple Latin phrase? Modern
education is grand. Anybody who wasn't destined to be a burger
flipper
took at least two years of Latin at my high school. We would argue
over
the pronunciation with the kids from Catholic High.

Why is America still teaching Latin? It's not used in everyday
society.

People DO still travel to Latin America!

Isn't that where the sexy well tanned Latino girls live? Who speak
er.... Spanish.

Not in Rio they don't...

Portugese, or in another words Spanish.

Portugal and Spain might have something so say about that.


It's just like Wales and England isn't it?


Ydych chi'n siarad cymreag?


I only know the important words like "slow", "police", and "speed camera".

When you enter Wales, you are greeted with two signs one after the other. The first says "Welcome to Wales", the next says "Speed Cameras". This shows how much they hate tourists.
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 02:00:37 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 10, 2021 at 11:37:59 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 23:18:35 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 7, 2021 at 1:05:10 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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I am too cheap to buy a package tracker that works on both my computer and my
phone so I have a free on on each. They do not communicate -- but that is OK,
I only want some on my phone anyway. For those ones I right click on the item
on the computer one and select "Send to Mail" and then mail to an address I
have listed as "Package Tracker". Sometimes I only type the "pa" and wait for
it to autofill. Well, if I have recently emailed someone which that is
relevant to I will create an email to that person showing my tracking stuff.
Usually catch it... except once. Now I try to be a bit more careful. Patrick
did not want to know when the inflatable sheep was getting to my house.

What's a package tracker? If I want to see where something I've bought is, I go to the website of the company that's delivering it.

Even before the pandemic we did a lot of ordering online. Now we do more. If I
have packages coming from the USPS, UPS, FedEx, and others it is good to have
them all in one place. I generally have most on my desktop and then ones I
want with me on mobile also on my phone. Came in very handy the other day when
I shipped some stuff to a disabled friend in another city -- I knew when it
was delivered. I called him and he was able to get assistance bringing it
inside before it was stolen.


I just order stuff and get it when it arrives. If it's late, I contact the seller. I see no need to track anything.


I do that with a lot of stuff, but sometimes -- like with the example -- it is
good to know. And sometimes just fun to see when it will arrive.


What kind of couriers do you have that won't help a disabled person with a package?
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On Mar 15, 2021 at 12:00:27 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 02:00:37 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 10, 2021 at 11:37:59 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 23:18:35 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 7, 2021 at 1:05:10 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

I am too cheap to buy a package tracker that works on both my computer and my
phone so I have a free on on each. They do not communicate -- but that is OK,
I only want some on my phone anyway. For those ones I right click on the item
on the computer one and select "Send to Mail" and then mail to an address I
have listed as "Package Tracker". Sometimes I only type the "pa" and wait for
it to autofill. Well, if I have recently emailed someone which that is
relevant to I will create an email to that person showing my tracking stuff.
Usually catch it... except once. Now I try to be a bit more careful. Patrick
did not want to know when the inflatable sheep was getting to my house.

What's a package tracker? If I want to see where something I've bought is, I go to the website of the company that's delivering it.

Even before the pandemic we did a lot of ordering online. Now we do more. If I
have packages coming from the USPS, UPS, FedEx, and others it is good to have
them all in one place. I generally have most on my desktop and then ones I
want with me on mobile also on my phone. Came in very handy the other day when
I shipped some stuff to a disabled friend in another city -- I knew when it
was delivered. I called him and he was able to get assistance bringing it
inside before it was stolen.

I just order stuff and get it when it arrives. If it's late, I contact the seller. I see no need to track anything.


I do that with a lot of stuff, but sometimes -- like with the example -- it is
good to know. And sometimes just fun to see when it will arrive.


What kind of couriers do you have that won't help a disabled person with a package?


FedEx. UPS. USPO. Each just knocks on his door and runs (though UPS has had a
few drivers who have actually helped, it is not the norm). For a couple of
MONTHS the USPO would not even deliver to his apartment complex because the
mailboxes had been damaged. He has no real way to get to those mailboxes
anyway -- the ramp to the office area where they have the mailboxes is set so
you have to go over a curb to get to it (utter insanity).

Being disabled and poor he lives in a very, very bad neighborhood -- so if he
does not get to the door fast enough the package is often gone.

He does have someone from a local church who helps him out, and I send any
packages going to that person instead.

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 21:08:13 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 13, 2021 at 1:12:22 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Mon, 08 Mar 2021 20:30:19 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 8, 2021 at 11:53:07 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 20:16:28 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 6, 2021 at 12:16:23 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

What a ******, ruining the fun of others. If I was one of the riders
and caught up to him, I would have pushed him off a cliff.

Although I've done similar to someone else, who was doing something
that's actually wrong. I saw some folk out shooting deer at the top of
some hills. The landrover (a 4x4 if you're an American) was parked with
the keys still in it, facing a steep slope, so I placed it in neutral.
A slight lean on the back and a loud crash was heard a few minutes later
after I made my way down the path.

Just another trumptard murderer?

What have you got against right wing? Left wing =3D theft, stealing from the rich to give to the poor.

The idea of the left is to STOP stealing from the poor and middle class to
give to the rich.

Bull****. The left puts higher taxes on the rich, and gives poor people money.

It helps to build a stronger tie between productivity and financial gain.


Quite the opposite. You work harder and you get **** all for it, it's stolen from you. It encourages lazyness.


Building a stronger tie between productivity and financial gain, which is
largely what the left is working for, encourages work.


You're spouting meaningless waffle. How can taking half your earnings in tax link productivity with finance? If I work twice as hard, I don't get twice the money, so why work hard?


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On Mar 15, 2021 at 12:10:25 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 21:08:13 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 13, 2021 at 1:12:22 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Mon, 08 Mar 2021 20:30:19 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 8, 2021 at 11:53:07 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 20:16:28 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 6, 2021 at 12:16:23 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

What a ******, ruining the fun of others. If I was one of the riders
and caught up to him, I would have pushed him off a cliff.

Although I've done similar to someone else, who was doing something
that's actually wrong. I saw some folk out shooting deer at the top of
some hills. The landrover (a 4x4 if you're an American) was parked with
the keys still in it, facing a steep slope, so I placed it in neutral.
A slight lean on the back and a loud crash was heard a few minutes later
after I made my way down the path.

Just another trumptard murderer?

What have you got against right wing? Left wing =3D theft, stealing from the rich to give to the poor.

The idea of the left is to STOP stealing from the poor and middle class to
give to the rich.

Bull****. The left puts higher taxes on the rich, and gives poor people money.

It helps to build a stronger tie between productivity and financial gain.

Quite the opposite. You work harder and you get **** all for it, it's stolen from you. It encourages lazyness.


Building a stronger tie between productivity and financial gain, which is
largely what the left is working for, encourages work.


You're spouting meaningless waffle.


Your failure to understand does not weaken the comment in any way.

How can taking half your earnings in tax link productivity with finance?


The average person in the US has 43% of their money going to tax and health
insurance.


https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org...alth-premiums/

For most countries it is under half that. And in America we not only pay more
but get far less.

If I work twice as hard, I don't get twice the money, so why work hard?


There are many things which disincentive work in the US, though I do not
really care how hard you work, I care more about how productive you are. And
even then there need not be a 1:1 connection, but the connection in the US is
*heavily* broken.


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On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 19:27:30 GMT, **** the git, the notorious,
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You're spouting meaningless waffle.


Your failure to understand does not weaken the comment in any way.


He DOES understand how to make you suck him off, time and again, senile
sucker of troll cock! BG
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 19:09:59 GMT, **** the git, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again:


FedEx. UPS. USPO. Each just knocks on his door and runs (though UPS has had a
few drivers who have actually helped, it is not the norm). For a couple of
MONTHS the USPO would not even deliver to his apartment complex because the
mailboxes had been damaged. He has no real way to get to those mailboxes
anyway -- the ramp to the office area where they have the mailboxes is set so
you have to go over a curb to get to it (utter insanity).

Being disabled and poor he lives in a very, very bad neighborhood -- so if he
does not get to the door fast enough the package is often gone.

He does have someone from a local church who helps him out, and I send any
packages going to that person instead.


Good grief! That was some intense sucking of the troll's cock again, ****
the git! No wonder he always comes back to you again, senile cocksucker!
BG

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On 03/15/2021 12:59 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:25:04 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/14/2021 12:36 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 01:10:35 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/13/2021 01:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 03:22:01 -0000, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/08/2021 11:41 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 20:13:48 -0000, Snit
wrote:

On Mar 6, 2021 at 11:47:22 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Fri, 05 Mar 2021 02:30:48 -0000, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/04/2021 11:37 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 04 Mar 2021 02:41:52 -0000, rbowman

wrote:

On 03/03/2021 01:36 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 21:48:03 -0000, rbowman

wrote:

On 02/21/2021 12:01 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

That reminds me of a theif's slogan: Spectacles, testicles,
wallet and
watch.

That's a Catholic thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqXZ9YoRD50

Ah! That's where I heard it! They probably invented it.

It was around long before Python, along with god's phone
number


https://patricktreardon.com/gods-phone-number/

Google translate says "Et cum spiritu tuo" means "And with your
spirit",
but I think it means the altar boys are asking for a quickie
with the
priest.

You really need google translate for a simple Latin phrase?
Modern
education is grand. Anybody who wasn't destined to be a burger
flipper
took at least two years of Latin at my high school. We would
argue
over
the pronunciation with the kids from Catholic High.

Why is America still teaching Latin? It's not used in everyday
society.

People DO still travel to Latin America!

Isn't that where the sexy well tanned Latino girls live? Who speak
er.... Spanish.

Not in Rio they don't...

Portugese, or in another words Spanish.

Portugal and Spain might have something so say about that.

It's just like Wales and England isn't it?


Ydych chi'n siarad cymreag?


I only know the important words like "slow", "police", and "speed camera".

When you enter Wales, you are greeted with two signs one after the
other. The first says "Welcome to Wales", the next says "Speed
Cameras". This shows how much they hate tourists.



Afaik Dylan Thomas was the only good thing to come out of Wales.
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Afaik Dylan Thomas was the only good thing to come out of Wales.


So what does that unwashed Scottish ******'s (who keeps "breeding" cats)
cock taste like that you can't ever resist it, lowbrowwoman? Of cat ****?


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On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 01:36:11 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/15/2021 12:59 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:25:04 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/14/2021 12:36 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 01:10:35 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/13/2021 01:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 03:22:01 -0000, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/08/2021 11:41 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 20:13:48 -0000, Snit
wrote:

On Mar 6, 2021 at 11:47:22 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Fri, 05 Mar 2021 02:30:48 -0000, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/04/2021 11:37 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 04 Mar 2021 02:41:52 -0000, rbowman

wrote:

On 03/03/2021 01:36 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 21:48:03 -0000, rbowman

wrote:

On 02/21/2021 12:01 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

That reminds me of a theif's slogan: Spectacles, testicles,
wallet and
watch.

That's a Catholic thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqXZ9YoRD50

Ah! That's where I heard it! They probably invented it.

It was around long before Python, along with god's phone
number


https://patricktreardon.com/gods-phone-number/

Google translate says "Et cum spiritu tuo" means "And with your
spirit",
but I think it means the altar boys are asking for a quickie
with the
priest.

You really need google translate for a simple Latin phrase?
Modern
education is grand. Anybody who wasn't destined to be a burger
flipper
took at least two years of Latin at my high school. We would
argue
over
the pronunciation with the kids from Catholic High.

Why is America still teaching Latin? It's not used in everyday
society.

People DO still travel to Latin America!

Isn't that where the sexy well tanned Latino girls live? Who speak
er.... Spanish.

Not in Rio they don't...

Portugese, or in another words Spanish.

Portugal and Spain might have something so say about that.

It's just like Wales and England isn't it?

Ydych chi'n siarad cymreag?


I only know the important words like "slow", "police", and "speed camera".

When you enter Wales, you are greeted with two signs one after the
other. The first says "Welcome to Wales", the next says "Speed
Cameras". This shows how much they hate tourists.



Afaik Dylan Thomas was the only good thing to come out of Wales.


I came in Wales.
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On Mar 14, 2021 at 11:31:06 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 20:38:15 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 9, 2021 at 12:49:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:





...

I go back and forth with no real issue -- knowing to use control on Windows
and ChromeOS and Command on macOS. The few times I use a terminal on Linux or
Windows it always seems weird the "standard" copy and paste does not work. I
get why.

What doesn't work?

Terminals use things like Control+C to abort (terminate) a processes. You try
to copy and you literally kill whatever process (app) you are using! Some
processes will thankfully warn you and you do not lose everything, but the
concept is absurd. The UNIX way was first... then Apple used the Command key
(they used to call it the Open Apple key) and then Windows and later Linux
copied the Mac but did it in a way where they used the UNIX keys to do the
wrong thing. On Windows that is not quite so bad, but Linux is a UNIX clone.

Ah, I do copy and paste from command prompts in windows, but I've never tried doing it incorrectly (that sounds German). I highlight and press enter. Paste works as normal. But then I used to use DOS and CTRL-C for "break" is embedded in my head. And the earlier command prompts in Windows didn't allow pasting, so when it came in I remembered the highlight and enter method.

It is not that big of a deal, especially given how being command line it gives
a mental context change -- but why not have it be the same for both?


Because one of them would have to change. Presumably nobody thought of it at the time, or they developed in tandem seperately.


The UNIX convention was there long before the GUI hit key conventions. Apple
did it right... they created a new hot key for the GUI. Windows copied the
Mac, but went to the UNIX hot key, and when they did that they created
overlap.


But you have an extra pointless key.

Also do not like the weird hand calisthenics needed with Control,
though not a big deal.

I press the CTRL with my little finger, and the X/C/V with my first finger. I'd find CMD in the wrong place - next to spacebar isn't it? Too close.

I use my thumb for the Command key... and out of habit do so when on Windows
or Linux, so yeah, I likely am having the issue because I do it wrong. I also
am a CRAPPY typist... the "normal" way uses so many fingers!

Thumb on Command means V is too far for my first finger to reach, unless you have longer fingers than me.

The Command button is right next to the space bar. Z, X, C, and V are right
about it.


Your keyboard seems to have the spacebar further right than a PC. That would make me keep missing the space. Typical Apple, to **** with standards.


I have an Apple keyboard, but it works fine with pretty much any keyboard.


How do you press CMD?

Apple set the desktop standard for where the "added" key was... MS did not
follow until 1994 when they added the "Windows key".


Apple never set standards, they break them.

Is it true longer fingers and longer toes mean a longer cock?

I only have myself as an example.


Get out more :-)


I did not compare even before the pandemic. Finger sizes or other.


Not even a quick look in a changing room?

I usually do a quick test post before I send in anger (as it were!)



I have been hitting the "send" button as my brain registers an error and
screams "NOOOOOOOO!"

On forums which allow editing, I get lazy and just send, then proofread and adjust it. Sometimes I make so many adjustments, and someone replies so quickly, that they reply to something I've no longer written, or miss out on more information I added.

I have done that.

How many have you been banned from?

A few on Facebook... groups that are supposed to be "debate" or "political"
groups -- but are run by right wingers. All it takes is posting links to fact
checking sites, or scientific sites, to get many right wingers angered.

I keep ****ing off the left wingers (and pro-vaxxers) in imgur. My score is now -220, which apparently is still "neutral".

I tend to fact check things people post. That irks some.

I refuse to spend much time proving an idiot wrong.

I spend too much time doing so.


I noticed. Particularly with Dustin.


He, along with Carroll, are on auto-read. I should put Pothead there, given
how he is likely a Carroll sock... or at the very least tries to emulate
Carroll in posting almost nothing but insane attacks.


Auto read means it's tempting for you to still look, which you keep doing. Mine are shoved in a seperate folder I never look in unless something went in there in error.

Speaking of being a crappy typists, I have no idea what error I made, but the
autocorrect changed "irks" to "girls". Um, what?

It remembers how often you use that term and deems it likely, my phone does the same when sending texts. Just what websites have you been using? Better get a VPN or someone like diesel will out you.

I do not type "girls" often, but I do have a VPN. Don't use it much.


It's handy if you get banned from a forum. I'm also an Italian :-) Changed my writing style too.


I use it to get to some BBC content. Shhhh.... don't tell them.


I've done the same, would you believe some BBC content is available in the USA but not the UK? WTF?
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On Mar 15, 2021 at 12:10:25 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 21:08:13 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 13, 2021 at 1:12:22 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Mon, 08 Mar 2021 20:30:19 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 8, 2021 at 11:53:07 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 20:16:28 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 6, 2021 at 12:16:23 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

What a ******, ruining the fun of others. If I was one of the riders
and caught up to him, I would have pushed him off a cliff.

Although I've done similar to someone else, who was doing something
that's actually wrong. I saw some folk out shooting deer at the top of
some hills. The landrover (a 4x4 if you're an American) was parked with
the keys still in it, facing a steep slope, so I placed it in neutral.
A slight lean on the back and a loud crash was heard a few minutes later
after I made my way down the path.

Just another trumptard murderer?

What have you got against right wing? Left wing =3D theft, stealing from the rich to give to the poor.

The idea of the left is to STOP stealing from the poor and middle class to
give to the rich.

Bull****. The left puts higher taxes on the rich, and gives poor people money.

It helps to build a stronger tie between productivity and financial gain.

Quite the opposite. You work harder and you get **** all for it, it's stolen from you. It encourages lazyness.

Building a stronger tie between productivity and financial gain, which is
largely what the left is working for, encourages work.


You're spouting meaningless waffle.


Your failure to understand does not weaken the comment in any way.


You sound like the extreme left Labour government in the UK. What you said is meaningless and incorrect.

How can taking half your earnings in tax link productivity with finance?


The average person in the US has 43% of their money going to tax and health
insurance.


So half what they earn is stolen to fund other people. That is criminal.

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org...alth-premiums/

For most countries it is under half that. And in America we not only pay more
but get far less.

If I work twice as hard, I don't get twice the money, so why work hard?


There are many things which disincentive work in the US, though I do not
really care how hard you work, I care more about how productive you are. And
even then there need not be a 1:1 connection, but the connection in the US is
*heavily* broken.


If you produce more, you would earn more money. Except the government steals it from you, so no point in working harder.
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....
Building a stronger tie between productivity and financial gain, which is
largely what the left is working for, encourages work.

You're spouting meaningless waffle.


Your failure to understand does not weaken the comment in any way.


You sound like the extreme left Labour government in the UK. What you said is meaningless and incorrect.


Just proclaiming it incorrect does not weaken the argument.

Before the argument is lost in the "yes it is" "no it's not" nonsense, all I
am saying is that when there is stronger tie between productivity and
financial gain, as the left (generally) promotes, this is better for the
individual and for the economy. This does not mean we should have a 1:1 tie --
those who are disabled or otherwise unable to be productive should be taken
care of.

What we do in the US, though, is backward. We "invest" in the rich more than
we do the poor, though our returns there are less than what we put in... with
the poor we get back more than we invest. It is not complex: a 70% return is
far worse than 140% return. Adding to that, we in America pay an outrageous
amount for sub-standard services: when you include taxes and insurance
premiums we pay over 40% of the money we do get (and remember we do not get
all the money we earn), where in other nations it is FAR less than that --
generally about half of what Americans pay.

How can taking half your earnings in tax link productivity with finance?


The average person in the US has 43% of their money going to tax and health
insurance.


So half what they earn is stolen to fund other people. That is criminal.


We call it "freedom" and "choice" in the US to be able to pick which
corporation is going to actively work to deny us healthcare so they can earn a
buck.

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org...alth-premiums/

For most countries it is under half that. And in America we not only pay more
but get far less.


Small correction he for most it is around half. In GB it is about 26% for
example... which is more than half of 43% but still significantly less.

If I work twice as hard, I don't get twice the money, so why work hard?


There are many things which disincentive work in the US, though I do not
really care how hard you work, I care more about how productive you are. And
even then there need not be a 1:1 connection, but the connection in the US is
*heavily* broken.


If you produce more, you would earn more money.


With the exception of those who cannot work (or should not, such as kids) that
is what I support.

Except the government steals it from you, so no point in working harder.


I want to see that reduced. This is largely what the concept of a Social
Democracy is about.

In a Social Democracy the government works largely for the citizens as a
whole, investing in infrastructure and the people. Most major industries are
privately owned (Capitalism), but they get few government handouts and are
generally held accountable for their own risks and costs. Also sometimes
referred to as the "Nordic Model", or something akin to it. With this system
the middle class does better, poverty decreases, and the environment suffers
less harm. This system is defined by the respect for human rights and the
environment.


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On Mar 16, 2021 at 11:45:35 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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....

Terminals use things like Control+C to abort (terminate) a processes. You try
to copy and you literally kill whatever process (app) you are using! Some
processes will thankfully warn you and you do not lose everything, but the
concept is absurd. The UNIX way was first... then Apple used the Command key
(they used to call it the Open Apple key) and then Windows and later Linux
copied the Mac but did it in a way where they used the UNIX keys to do the
wrong thing. On Windows that is not quite so bad, but Linux is a UNIX clone.

Ah, I do copy and paste from command prompts in windows, but I've never tried doing it incorrectly (that sounds German). I highlight and press enter. Paste works as normal. But then I used to use DOS and CTRL-C for "break" is embedded in my head. And the earlier command prompts in Windows didn't allow pasting, so when it came in I remembered the highlight and enter method.

It is not that big of a deal, especially given how being command line it gives
a mental context change -- but why not have it be the same for both?

Because one of them would have to change. Presumably nobody thought of it at the time, or they developed in tandem seperately.


The UNIX convention was there long before the GUI hit key conventions. Apple
did it right... they created a new hot key for the GUI. Windows copied the
Mac, but went to the UNIX hot key, and when they did that they created
overlap.


But you have an extra pointless key.


No more than on PCs.

Shift, Control, Option, and Command.
Shift, Control, Alt, and Windows.

Same number of "modifier" keys. Some keyboards also have a "function" key for
things like the number pad.

Also do not like the weird hand calisthenics needed with Control,
though not a big deal.

I press the CTRL with my little finger, and the X/C/V with my first finger. I'd find CMD in the wrong place - next to spacebar isn't it? Too close.

I use my thumb for the Command key... and out of habit do so when on Windows
or Linux, so yeah, I likely am having the issue because I do it wrong. I also
am a CRAPPY typist... the "normal" way uses so many fingers!

Thumb on Command means V is too far for my first finger to reach, unless you have longer fingers than me.

The Command button is right next to the space bar. Z, X, C, and V are right
about it.

Your keyboard seems to have the spacebar further right than a PC. That would make me keep missing the space. Typical Apple, to **** with standards.


I have an Apple keyboard, but it works fine with pretty much any keyboard.


How do you press CMD?


Use one of the standard keys on the keyboard... whether designed for Mac or
Windows. You can configure it easily:


https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploa...references.jpg

Just checked the current OS -- looks much the same but they have added the
"function" or "fn" key to the mix.

Apple set the desktop standard for where the "added" key was... MS did not
follow until 1994 when they added the "Windows key".


Apple never set standards, they break them.


For the GUI Apple (and NeXT) very much set the standard. Some time ago I
compiled a list of things Apple (and NeXT) were, as far as I could tell, the
first to use:

* Double clicking
* Trash can (or the like)
* Graying out inactive items
* Checkmarks next to menu items
* Keyboard shortcuts for menu items
* Drag and drop
* Full file system in GUI (as icons)
* GUI based hierarchical folder structure
* Editing documents with direct mouse manipulation
* The clipboard (and later one with multiple versions of the same data
so you can paste plain text or formatted text, etc.)
* Control panel to set system settings
* Pull down menus
* Desktop accessories (now known as widgets or gadgets)
* Meta-data associations with icons (data about the data being
associated with the file)
* Self-redrawing windows (at Apple) and later windows where the image
was still held in memory even when not visible, making the redraw be
instantaneous from the perspective of a user (called double buffering
and done at NeXT)
* X to close a window (this is from NeXT - I was surprised by that)

Pretty much the modern idea of the GUI is from Apple. MS also did introduce
some things which have become common:

* Contextual (right click) menus
* Drag indicators (to show copying, moving, making a shortcut / alias)
* The Start button

Apple has no Start Button, but they have adopted the other two.

Is it true longer fingers and longer toes mean a longer cock?

I only have myself as an example.

Get out more :-)


I did not compare even before the pandemic. Finger sizes or other.


Not even a quick look in a changing room?


Why would I?


....

I refuse to spend much time proving an idiot wrong.

I spend too much time doing so.

I noticed. Particularly with Dustin.


He, along with Carroll, are on auto-read. I should put Pothead there, given
how he is likely a Carroll sock... or at the very least tries to emulate
Carroll in posting almost nothing but insane attacks.


Auto read means it's tempting for you to still look, which you keep doing. Mine are shoved in a seperate folder I never look in unless something went in there in error.


I do not think my current client allows me to move them. I do not want them
deleted so I can see them if I want, or in a search, but moving them would be
better.

Even worse is if I am looking at the forum as it updates it shows me the read
posts -- so I sometimes see Carroll and Gremlin are still posting. But there
is no actual desire to read their posts and I have not been. I *KNOW* what
they are posting, at least in broad strokes. Why read their victim mentality
nonsense when I know it before I open it?




Speaking of being a crappy typists, I have no idea what error I made, but the
autocorrect changed "irks" to "girls". Um, what?

It remembers how often you use that term and deems it likely, my phone does the same when sending texts. Just what websites have you been using? Better get a VPN or someone like diesel will out you.

I do not type "girls" often, but I do have a VPN. Don't use it much.

It's handy if you get banned from a forum. I'm also an Italian :-) Changed my writing style too.


I use it to get to some BBC content. Shhhh.... don't tell them.


I've done the same, would you believe some BBC content is available in the USA but not the UK? WTF?


I have seen that as well, though I cannot remember with what content.

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use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.




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On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:07:17 GMT, **** the git, the notorious,
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Just proclaiming it incorrect does not weaken the argument.


You just can't wait until he returns to you and allows you to suck him off,
eh, you ridiculous senile sucker of troll cock? LOL
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I have seen that as well, though I cannot remember with what content.


What everyone sees is how addicted you've become to the unwashed troll's
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On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 8:36:18 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 03/15/2021 12:59 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:25:04 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/14/2021 12:36 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 01:10:35 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/13/2021 01:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 03:22:01 -0000, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/08/2021 11:41 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 20:13:48 -0000, Snit
wrote:

On Mar 6, 2021 at 11:47:22 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Fri, 05 Mar 2021 02:30:48 -0000, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/04/2021 11:37 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 04 Mar 2021 02:41:52 -0000, rbowman

wrote:

On 03/03/2021 01:36 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 21:48:03 -0000, rbowman

wrote:

On 02/21/2021 12:01 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

That reminds me of a theif's slogan: Spectacles, testicles,
wallet and
watch.

That's a Catholic thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqXZ9YoRD50

Ah! That's where I heard it! They probably invented it.

It was around long before Python, along with god's phone
number


https://patricktreardon.com/gods-phone-number/

Google translate says "Et cum spiritu tuo" means "And with your
spirit",
but I think it means the altar boys are asking for a quickie
with the
priest.

You really need google translate for a simple Latin phrase?
Modern
education is grand. Anybody who wasn't destined to be a burger
flipper
took at least two years of Latin at my high school. We would
argue
over
the pronunciation with the kids from Catholic High.

Why is America still teaching Latin? It's not used in everyday
society.

People DO still travel to Latin America!

Isn't that where the sexy well tanned Latino girls live? Who speak
er.... Spanish.

Not in Rio they don't...

Portugese, or in another words Spanish.

Portugal and Spain might have something so say about that.

It's just like Wales and England isn't it?

Ydych chi'n siarad cymreag?


I only know the important words like "slow", "police", and "speed camera".

When you enter Wales, you are greeted with two signs one after the
other. The first says "Welcome to Wales", the next says "Speed
Cameras". This shows how much they hate tourists.

Afaik Dylan Thomas was the only good thing to come out of Wales.


are you forgetting Rosey Grier's lesser known costar, Ray Milland?

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On 03/16/2021 02:30 PM, marika wrote:
On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 8:36:18 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 03/15/2021 12:59 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:25:04 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/14/2021 12:36 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 01:10:35 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/13/2021 01:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 03:22:01 -0000, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/08/2021 11:41 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 20:13:48 -0000, Snit
wrote:

On Mar 6, 2021 at 11:47:22 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Fri, 05 Mar 2021 02:30:48 -0000, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/04/2021 11:37 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 04 Mar 2021 02:41:52 -0000, rbowman

wrote:

On 03/03/2021 01:36 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 21:48:03 -0000, rbowman

wrote:

On 02/21/2021 12:01 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

That reminds me of a theif's slogan: Spectacles, testicles,
wallet and
watch.

That's a Catholic thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqXZ9YoRD50

Ah! That's where I heard it! They probably invented it.

It was around long before Python, along with god's phone
number


https://patricktreardon.com/gods-phone-number/

Google translate says "Et cum spiritu tuo" means "And with your
spirit",
but I think it means the altar boys are asking for a quickie
with the
priest.

You really need google translate for a simple Latin phrase?
Modern
education is grand. Anybody who wasn't destined to be a burger
flipper
took at least two years of Latin at my high school. We would
argue
over
the pronunciation with the kids from Catholic High.

Why is America still teaching Latin? It's not used in everyday
society.

People DO still travel to Latin America!

Isn't that where the sexy well tanned Latino girls live? Who speak
er.... Spanish.

Not in Rio they don't...

Portugese, or in another words Spanish.

Portugal and Spain might have something so say about that.

It's just like Wales and England isn't it?

Ydych chi'n siarad cymreag?

I only know the important words like "slow", "police", and "speed camera".

When you enter Wales, you are greeted with two signs one after the
other. The first says "Welcome to Wales", the next says "Speed
Cameras". This shows how much they hate tourists.

Afaik Dylan Thomas was the only good thing to come out of Wales.


are you forgetting Rosey Grier's lesser known costar, Ray Milland?


After looking at the very long list of films Milland was in I think I
can say I missed them all. Thankfully, The Thing with Two Heads' was one
of them.

I thought I might have seen 'Lost Weekend' but realized I was thinking
of 'Days of Wine and Roses'.


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After looking at the very long list of films Milland was in I think I
can say I missed them all. Thankfully, The Thing with Two Heads' was one
of them.

I thought I might have seen 'Lost Weekend' but realized I was thinking
of 'Days of Wine and Roses'.


Good grief! What utterly off topic senile **** is this about again, senile
gossip?


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On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:07:17 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 16, 2021 at 11:52:42 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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...
Building a stronger tie between productivity and financial gain, which is
largely what the left is working for, encourages work.

You're spouting meaningless waffle.

Your failure to understand does not weaken the comment in any way.


You sound like the extreme left Labour government in the UK. What you said is meaningless and incorrect.


Just proclaiming it incorrect does not weaken the argument.

Before the argument is lost in the "yes it is" "no it's not" nonsense, all I
am saying is that when there is stronger tie between productivity and
financial gain, as the left (generally) promotes, this is better for the
individual and for the economy. This does not mean we should have a 1:1 tie --
those who are disabled or otherwise unable to be productive should be taken
care of.


But a stronger link is created by the right wing. Left wing doesb't let you keep the extra money you earn. There's no incentive to be productive if the government steals a third of your hard earned cash.

What we do in the US, though, is backward. We "invest" in the rich more than
we do the poor, though our returns there are less than what we put in... with
the poor we get back more than we invest. It is not complex: a 70% return is
far worse than 140% return. Adding to that, we in America pay an outrageous
amount for sub-standard services: when you include taxes and insurance
premiums we pay over 40% of the money we do get (and remember we do not get
all the money we earn), where in other nations it is FAR less than that --
generally about half of what Americans pay.


Nobody should be paying anything.

How can taking half your earnings in tax link productivity with finance?

The average person in the US has 43% of their money going to tax and health
insurance.


So half what they earn is stolen to fund other people. That is criminal.


We call it "freedom" and "choice" in the US to be able to pick which
corporation is going to actively work to deny us healthcare so they can earn a
buck.


That's the way it should be. In the UK we're stuck with the most inefficient and useless health care system possible. And we don't get a choice to use another one in a lot of cases.

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org...alth-premiums/

For most countries it is under half that. And in America we not only pay more
but get far less.


Small correction he for most it is around half. In GB it is about 26% for
example... which is more than half of 43% but still significantly less.

If I work twice as hard, I don't get twice the money, so why work hard?

There are many things which disincentive work in the US, though I do not
really care how hard you work, I care more about how productive you are. And
even then there need not be a 1:1 connection, but the connection in the US is
*heavily* broken.


If you produce more, you would earn more money.


With the exception of those who cannot work (or should not, such as kids)


Why shouldn't they? They're fitter than adults. Get them being productive instead of sending them to school to be brainwashed, or to learn things they'll never need. Learn on the job.

that is what I support.


No you don't, you want people who earn more to pay more taxes.

Except the government steals it from you, so no point in working harder.


I want to see that reduced. This is largely what the concept of a Social
Democracy is about.

In a Social Democracy the government works largely for the citizens as a
whole, investing in infrastructure and the people. Most major industries are
privately owned (Capitalism), but they get few government handouts and are
generally held accountable for their own risks and costs. Also sometimes
referred to as the "Nordic Model", or something akin to it. With this system
the middle class does better, poverty decreases, and the environment suffers
less harm. This system is defined by the respect for human rights and the
environment.


I never vote for anyone who is for "human rights" or "the environment".
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On 2021-03-24 11:55 a.m., Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:07:17 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 16, 2021 at 11:52:42 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:



...
* Building a stronger tie between productivity and financial gain,
which is
* largely what the left is working for, encourages work.

*You're spouting meaningless waffle.

*Your failure to understand does not weaken the comment in any way.

You sound like the extreme left Labour government in the UK.* What
you said is meaningless and incorrect.


Just proclaiming it incorrect does not weaken the argument.

Before the argument is lost in the "yes it is" "no it's not" nonsense,
all I
am saying is that when there is stronger tie between productivity and
financial gain, as the left (generally) promotes, this is better for the
individual and for the economy. This does not mean we should have a
1:1 tie --
those who are disabled or otherwise unable to be productive should be
taken
care of.


But a stronger link is created by the right wing.* Left wing doesb't let
you keep the extra money you earn.* There's no incentive to be
productive if the government steals a third of your hard earned cash.

What we do in the US, though, is backward. We "invest" in the rich
more than
we do the poor, though our returns there are less than what we put
in... with
the poor we get back more than we invest. It is not complex: a 70%
return is
far worse than 140% return. Adding to that, we in America pay an
outrageous
amount for sub-standard services: when you include taxes and insurance
premiums we pay over 40% of the money we do get (and remember we do
not get
all the money we earn), where in other nations it is FAR less than
that --
generally about half of what Americans pay.


Nobody should be paying anything.

*How can taking half your earnings in tax link productivity with
finance?

*The average person in the US has 43% of their money going to tax
and health
*insurance.

So half what they earn is stolen to fund other people.* That is
criminal.


We call it "freedom" and "choice" in the US to be able to pick which
corporation is going to actively work to deny us healthcare so they
can earn a
buck.


That's the way it should be.* In the UK we're stuck with the most
inefficient and useless health care system possible.* And we don't get a
choice to use another one in a lot of cases.

*https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org...alth-premiums/


*For most countries it is under half that. And in America we not
only pay more
*but get far less.


Small correction he for most it is around half. In GB it is about
26% for
example... which is more than half of 43% but still significantly less.

* If I work twice as hard, I don't get twice the money, so why work
hard?

*There are many things which disincentive work in the US, though I
do not
*really care how hard you work, I care more about how productive you
are. And
*even then there need not be a 1:1 connection, but the connection in
the US is
**heavily* broken.

If you produce more, you would earn more money.


With the exception of those who cannot work (or should not, such as kids)


Why shouldn't they?* They're fitter than adults.* Get them being
productive instead of sending them to school to be brainwashed, or to
learn things they'll never need.* Learn on the job.

that is what I support.


No you don't, you want people who earn more to pay more taxes.

*Except the government steals it from you, so no point in working
harder.


I want to see that reduced. This is largely what the concept of a Social
Democracy is about.

In a Social Democracy the government works largely for the citizens as a
whole, investing in infrastructure and the people. Most major
industries are
privately owned (Capitalism), but they get few government handouts and
are
generally held accountable for their own risks and costs. Also sometimes
referred to as the "Nordic Model", or something akin to it. With this
system
the middle class does better, poverty decreases, and the environment
suffers
less harm. This system is defined by the respect for human rights and the
environment.


I never vote for anyone who is for "human rights" or "the environment".


your vote never counts anyway
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On Mar 24, 2021 at 11:55:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:07:17 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 16, 2021 at 11:52:42 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:



...
Building a stronger tie between productivity and financial gain, which is
largely what the left is working for, encourages work.

You're spouting meaningless waffle.

Your failure to understand does not weaken the comment in any way.

You sound like the extreme left Labour government in the UK. What you said is meaningless and incorrect.


Just proclaiming it incorrect does not weaken the argument.

Before the argument is lost in the "yes it is" "no it's not" nonsense, all I
am saying is that when there is stronger tie between productivity and
financial gain, as the left (generally) promotes, this is better for the
individual and for the economy. This does not mean we should have a 1:1 tie --
those who are disabled or otherwise unable to be productive should be taken
care of.


But a stronger link is created by the right wing.


The right wing in the US pushes the idea that funding the rich (where you get
about a 70% return) is the way to go. It is part of the reason why the economy
does so much better under Democrats.

Left wing doesb't let you keep the extra money you earn.


They have not been able to push through changes I would like to see, but at
least many on the left get why it is insane workers have seen less than a 15%
increase in wages since 1980 but CEOs have seen over a 1000% increase.

There's no incentive to be productive if the government steals a third of your hard earned cash.


In the US we have more taken than elsewhere (including taxes and health
insurance premiums). I would like to see us move to something akin to the
models where we pay less and get more.



What we do in the US, though, is backward. We "invest" in the rich more than
we do the poor, though our returns there are less than what we put in... with
the poor we get back more than we invest. It is not complex: a 70% return is
far worse than 140% return. Adding to that, we in America pay an outrageous
amount for sub-standard services: when you include taxes and insurance
premiums we pay over 40% of the money we do get (and remember we do not get
all the money we earn), where in other nations it is FAR less than that --
generally about half of what Americans pay.


Nobody should be paying anything.


That is when you get to the point of moving to a deserted island and not
having to deal with all the services you get from society. No roads or running
water, no Internet or electricity, none of the stuff you take for granted that
comes in part from the tax dollars you do not want to pay.

How can taking half your earnings in tax link productivity with finance?

The average person in the US has 43% of their money going to tax and health
insurance.

So half what they earn is stolen to fund other people. That is criminal.


We call it "freedom" and "choice" in the US to be able to pick which
corporation is going to actively work to deny us healthcare so they can earn a
buck.


That's the way it should be. In the UK we're stuck with the most inefficient and useless health care system possible. And we don't get a choice to use another one in a lot of cases.


You pay less and have better outcomes. I am not saying there is no room for
improvement but why pay more for less? That is often what conservatives push
for and it makes no economic or health sense. Is there anything other than an
emotional tie to such a system which is appealing, or do conservatives really
not get how much worse the US system is in terms of cost and care?

Heck, in the US we hear all the time about people coming from Mexico, but we
have larger numbers going TO Mexico just to get decent health care. Or at
least better than in the US.

Had a friend who needed a surgery. It was cheaper to fly to S. Korea and stay
with family there for a month as he had the procedure done and then fly back
than just to get it done in the US. Utterly insane.

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org...alth-premiums/

For most countries it is under half that. And in America we not only pay more
but get far less.


Small correction he for most it is around half. In GB it is about 26% for
example... which is more than half of 43% but still significantly less.

If I work twice as hard, I don't get twice the money, so why work hard?

There are many things which disincentive work in the US, though I do not
really care how hard you work, I care more about how productive you are. And
even then there need not be a 1:1 connection, but the connection in the US is
*heavily* broken.

If you produce more, you would earn more money.


With the exception of those who cannot work (or should not, such as kids)


Why shouldn't they? They're fitter than adults. Get them being productive instead of sending them to school to be brainwashed, or to learn things they'll never need. Learn on the job.


Child abuse is not a great thing, though I have no issue with teens having
some type of work.

that is what I support.


No you don't, you want people who earn more to pay more taxes.


I back what *I* say I did. You get no say in it (though I am open to listening
and might have my mind changed).

But it simply a fact I back having a stronger tie between productivity and
financial gain.

Except the government steals it from you, so no point in working harder.


I want to see that reduced. This is largely what the concept of a Social
Democracy is about.

In a Social Democracy the government works largely for the citizens as a
whole, investing in infrastructure and the people. Most major industries are
privately owned (Capitalism), but they get few government handouts and are
generally held accountable for their own risks and costs. Also sometimes
referred to as the "Nordic Model", or something akin to it. With this system
the middle class does better, poverty decreases, and the environment suffers
less harm. This system is defined by the respect for human rights and the
environment.


I never vote for anyone who is for "human rights" or "the environment".


That is very much how American conservatives are -- and with the US being so
conservative it is why we are so far behind the rest of the world in many
ways.

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But a stronger link is created by the right wing.


The right wing


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On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 9:12:02 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 03/16/2021 02:30 PM, marika wrote:
On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 8:36:18 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 03/15/2021 12:59 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:25:04 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/14/2021 12:36 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 01:10:35 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 03/13/2021 01:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 03:22:01 -0000, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/08/2021 11:41 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 20:13:48 -0000, Snit
wrote:

On Mar 6, 2021 at 11:47:22 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Fri, 05 Mar 2021 02:30:48 -0000, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/04/2021 11:37 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 04 Mar 2021 02:41:52 -0000, rbowman

wrote:

On 03/03/2021 01:36 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 21:48:03 -0000, rbowman

wrote:

On 02/21/2021 12:01 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

That reminds me of a theif's slogan: Spectacles, testicles,
wallet and
watch.

That's a Catholic thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqXZ9YoRD50

Ah! That's where I heard it! They probably invented it.

It was around long before Python, along with god's phone
number


https://patricktreardon.com/gods-phone-number/

Google translate says "Et cum spiritu tuo" means "And with your
spirit",
but I think it means the altar boys are asking for a quickie
with the
priest.

You really need google translate for a simple Latin phrase?
Modern
education is grand. Anybody who wasn't destined to be a burger
flipper
took at least two years of Latin at my high school. We would
argue
over
the pronunciation with the kids from Catholic High.

Why is America still teaching Latin? It's not used in everyday
society.

People DO still travel to Latin America!

Isn't that where the sexy well tanned Latino girls live? Who speak
er.... Spanish.

Not in Rio they don't...

Portugese, or in another words Spanish.

Portugal and Spain might have something so say about that.

It's just like Wales and England isn't it?

Ydych chi'n siarad cymreag?

I only know the important words like "slow", "police", and "speed camera".

When you enter Wales, you are greeted with two signs one after the
other. The first says "Welcome to Wales", the next says "Speed
Cameras". This shows how much they hate tourists.
Afaik Dylan Thomas was the only good thing to come out of Wales.


are you forgetting Rosey Grier's lesser known costar, Ray Milland?

After looking at the very long list of films Milland was in I think I
can say I missed them all. Thankfully, The Thing with Two Heads' was one
of them.

I thought I might have seen 'Lost TomWeekend' but realized I was thinking
of 'Days of Wine and Roses'.


Ok
how about Tom Jones

I just saw him on an episode of Graham Norton

he is 80

he looked and sounded fantastic

he performed €œNo Hole In My Head€ by Malvina Reynolds, a sixties tune whose words have a good deal of relevance today

mk5000

Written by and starring Mindy Kaling, Late Night follows an acclaimed news show host whose ratings are on the decline. She hires a female, Indian-American writer to shake up her white-male writer's room. Never preachy, while making an argument for transforming Emma Thompson into a real-life talk show host, Late Night is lively comedy with hints of The Devil Wears Prada. --Jennifer Bisset on Cnet, re "Late Night"


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On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 19:28:38 -0000, % wrote:

On 2021-03-24 11:55 a.m., Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:07:17 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 16, 2021 at 11:52:42 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:



...
Building a stronger tie between productivity and financial gain,
which is
largely what the left is working for, encourages work.

You're spouting meaningless waffle.

Your failure to understand does not weaken the comment in any way.

You sound like the extreme left Labour government in the UK. What
you said is meaningless and incorrect.

Just proclaiming it incorrect does not weaken the argument.

Before the argument is lost in the "yes it is" "no it's not" nonsense,
all I
am saying is that when there is stronger tie between productivity and
financial gain, as the left (generally) promotes, this is better for the
individual and for the economy. This does not mean we should have a
1:1 tie --
those who are disabled or otherwise unable to be productive should be
taken
care of.


But a stronger link is created by the right wing. Left wing doesb't let
you keep the extra money you earn. There's no incentive to be
productive if the government steals a third of your hard earned cash.

What we do in the US, though, is backward. We "invest" in the rich
more than
we do the poor, though our returns there are less than what we put
in... with
the poor we get back more than we invest. It is not complex: a 70%
return is
far worse than 140% return. Adding to that, we in America pay an
outrageous
amount for sub-standard services: when you include taxes and insurance
premiums we pay over 40% of the money we do get (and remember we do
not get
all the money we earn), where in other nations it is FAR less than
that --
generally about half of what Americans pay.


Nobody should be paying anything.

How can taking half your earnings in tax link productivity with
finance?

The average person in the US has 43% of their money going to tax
and health
insurance.

So half what they earn is stolen to fund other people. That is
criminal.

We call it "freedom" and "choice" in the US to be able to pick which
corporation is going to actively work to deny us healthcare so they
can earn a
buck.


That's the way it should be. In the UK we're stuck with the most
inefficient and useless health care system possible. And we don't get a
choice to use another one in a lot of cases.

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org...alth-premiums/


For most countries it is under half that. And in America we not
only pay more
but get far less.

Small correction he for most it is around half. In GB it is about
26% for
example... which is more than half of 43% but still significantly less.

If I work twice as hard, I don't get twice the money, so why work
hard?

There are many things which disincentive work in the US, though I
do not
really care how hard you work, I care more about how productive you
are. And
even then there need not be a 1:1 connection, but the connection in
the US is
*heavily* broken.

If you produce more, you would earn more money.

With the exception of those who cannot work (or should not, such as kids)


Why shouldn't they? They're fitter than adults. Get them being
productive instead of sending them to school to be brainwashed, or to
learn things they'll never need. Learn on the job.

that is what I support.


No you don't, you want people who earn more to pay more taxes.

Except the government steals it from you, so no point in working
harder.

I want to see that reduced. This is largely what the concept of a Social
Democracy is about.

In a Social Democracy the government works largely for the citizens as a
whole, investing in infrastructure and the people. Most major
industries are
privately owned (Capitalism), but they get few government handouts and
are
generally held accountable for their own risks and costs. Also sometimes
referred to as the "Nordic Model", or something akin to it. With this
system
the middle class does better, poverty decreases, and the environment
suffers
less harm. This system is defined by the respect for human rights and the
environment.


I never vote for anyone who is for "human rights" or "the environment".


your vote never counts anyway


They're supposed to be anonymous, but your name is on the form.
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On Mar 16, 2021 at 11:45:35 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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...

Terminals use things like Control+C to abort (terminate) a processes. You try
to copy and you literally kill whatever process (app) you are using! Some
processes will thankfully warn you and you do not lose everything, but the
concept is absurd. The UNIX way was first... then Apple used the Command key
(they used to call it the Open Apple key) and then Windows and later Linux
copied the Mac but did it in a way where they used the UNIX keys to do the
wrong thing. On Windows that is not quite so bad, but Linux is a UNIX clone.

Ah, I do copy and paste from command prompts in windows, but I've never tried doing it incorrectly (that sounds German). I highlight and press enter. Paste works as normal. But then I used to use DOS and CTRL-C for "break" is embedded in my head. And the earlier command prompts in Windows didn't allow pasting, so when it came in I remembered the highlight and enter method.

It is not that big of a deal, especially given how being command line it gives
a mental context change -- but why not have it be the same for both?

Because one of them would have to change. Presumably nobody thought of it at the time, or they developed in tandem seperately.

The UNIX convention was there long before the GUI hit key conventions. Apple
did it right... they created a new hot key for the GUI. Windows copied the
Mac, but went to the UNIX hot key, and when they did that they created
overlap.


But you have an extra pointless key.


No more than on PCs.

Shift, Control, Option, and Command.
Shift, Control, Alt, and Windows.


We didn't used to have the stupid extra context key. The windows key is very useful, but your command key just functions as ctrl.

Same number of "modifier" keys. Some keyboards also have a "function" key for
things like the number pad.


Those are intolerable and only there for tiny laptops. Very annoying when trying to do a two key combination but Fn is required to make one of the keys into the other key, so now you need to press three things at once. And what order do you do them in?

Also do not like the weird hand calisthenics needed with Control,
though not a big deal.

I press the CTRL with my little finger, and the X/C/V with my first finger. I'd find CMD in the wrong place - next to spacebar isn't it? Too close.

I use my thumb for the Command key... and out of habit do so when on Windows
or Linux, so yeah, I likely am having the issue because I do it wrong. I also
am a CRAPPY typist... the "normal" way uses so many fingers!

Thumb on Command means V is too far for my first finger to reach, unless you have longer fingers than me.

The Command button is right next to the space bar. Z, X, C, and V are right
about it.

Your keyboard seems to have the spacebar further right than a PC. That would make me keep missing the space. Typical Apple, to **** with standards.

I have an Apple keyboard, but it works fine with pretty much any keyboard.


How do you press CMD?


Use one of the standard keys on the keyboard... whether designed for Mac or
Windows. You can configure it easily:


https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploa...references.jpg

Just checked the current OS -- looks much the same but they have added the
"function" or "fn" key to the mix.


ROFL! Using software to fix a problem that shouldn't exist. Remember the "disk light" extension so you could see if there was disk activity? All for the sake of removing a very useful LED.

Apple set the desktop standard for where the "added" key was... MS did not
follow until 1994 when they added the "Windows key".


Apple never set standards, they break them.


For the GUI Apple (and NeXT) very much set the standard. Some time ago I
compiled a list of things Apple (and NeXT) were, as far as I could tell, the
first to use:

* Double clicking
* Trash can (or the like)
* Graying out inactive items
* Checkmarks next to menu items
* Keyboard shortcuts for menu items
* Drag and drop
* Full file system in GUI (as icons)
* GUI based hierarchical folder structure
* Editing documents with direct mouse manipulation
* The clipboard (and later one with multiple versions of the same data
so you can paste plain text or formatted text, etc.)
* Control panel to set system settings
* Pull down menus
* Desktop accessories (now known as widgets or gadgets)
* Meta-data associations with icons (data about the data being
associated with the file)
* Self-redrawing windows (at Apple) and later windows where the image
was still held in memory even when not visible, making the redraw be
instantaneous from the perspective of a user (called double buffering
and done at NeXT)
* X to close a window (this is from NeXT - I was surprised by that)


The first is never the best.

Pretty much the modern idea of the GUI is from Apple.


Do you seriously think if they hadn't, noone else would have?

MS also did introduce
some things which have become common:

* Contextual (right click) menus
* Drag indicators (to show copying, moving, making a shortcut / alias)
* The Start button

Apple has no Start Button, but they have adopted the other two.


How the **** do you start a program?

Is it true longer fingers and longer toes mean a longer cock?

I only have myself as an example.

Get out more :-)

I did not compare even before the pandemic. Finger sizes or other.


Not even a quick look in a changing room?


Why would I?


To see if you're normal. Or to find out which ones are gay.

I refuse to spend much time proving an idiot wrong.

I spend too much time doing so.

I noticed. Particularly with Dustin.

He, along with Carroll, are on auto-read. I should put Pothead there, given
how he is likely a Carroll sock... or at the very least tries to emulate
Carroll in posting almost nothing but insane attacks.


Auto read means it's tempting for you to still look, which you keep doing. Mine are shoved in a seperate folder I never look in unless something went in there in error.


I do not think my current client allows me to move them. I do not want them
deleted so I can see them if I want, or in a search, but moving them would be
better.

Even worse is if I am looking at the forum as it updates it shows me the read
posts -- so I sometimes see Carroll and Gremlin are still posting. But there
is no actual desire to read their posts and I have not been. I *KNOW* what
they are posting, at least in broad strokes. Why read their victim mentality
nonsense when I know it before I open it?


Because it's natural for humans to be inquisitive.

Speaking of being a crappy typists, I have no idea what error I made, but the
autocorrect changed "irks" to "girls". Um, what?

It remembers how often you use that term and deems it likely, my phone does the same when sending texts. Just what websites have you been using? Better get a VPN or someone like diesel will out you.

I do not type "girls" often, but I do have a VPN. Don't use it much.

It's handy if you get banned from a forum. I'm also an Italian :-) Changed my writing style too.

I use it to get to some BBC content. Shhhh.... don't tell them.


I've done the same, would you believe some BBC content is available in the USA but not the UK? WTF?


I have seen that as well, though I cannot remember with what content.


Harry Enfield clips on Youtube (a UK comedy). Probably the BBC banning it being seen without a TV license, but since they export stuff to you for free, at the expense of UK citizens, they don't block it over there.
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On Mar 25, 2021 at 11:36:13 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:20:20 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 16, 2021 at 11:45:35 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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...

Terminals use things like Control+C to abort (terminate) a
processes. You try
to copy and you literally kill whatever process (app) you are using! Some
processes will thankfully warn you and you do not lose everything,
but the
concept is absurd. The UNIX way was first... then Apple used the
Command key
(they used to call it the Open Apple key) and then Windows and
later Linux
copied the Mac but did it in a way where they used the UNIX keys
to do the
wrong thing. On Windows that is not quite so bad, but Linux is a
UNIX clone.

Ah, I do copy and paste from command prompts in windows, but I've
never tried doing it incorrectly (that sounds German). I highlight and
press enter. Paste works as normal. But then I used to use DOS and
CTRL-C for "break" is embedded in my head. And the earlier command
prompts in Windows didn't allow pasting, so when it came in I
remembered the highlight and enter method.

It is not that big of a deal, especially given how being command line
it gives
a mental context change -- but why not have it be the same for both?

Because one of them would have to change. Presumably nobody thought of
it at the time, or they developed in tandem seperately.

The UNIX convention was there long before the GUI hit key conventions.
Apple
did it right... they created a new hot key for the GUI. Windows copied the
Mac, but went to the UNIX hot key, and when they did that they created
overlap.

But you have an extra pointless key.


No more than on PCs.

Shift, Control, Option, and Command.
Shift, Control, Alt, and Windows.


We didn't used to have the stupid extra context key. The windows key is very
useful, but your command key just functions as ctrl.


We use Control for other things. And there is still the issue of copying and
pasting in a terminal with Windows and Linux. They copied Apple poorly, making
it so you have to do different things for the terminal. Why? What benefit is
that? And having to use the less dextrous pinky or stretching your hand in odd
ways just to copy and paste is also not as good.

In the end, though, not a huge deal either way. Just a shame MS did a
half-assed job in their copying.

Same number of "modifier" keys. Some keyboards also have a "function" key
for
things like the number pad.


Those are intolerable and only there for tiny laptops. Very annoying when
trying to do a two key combination but Fn is required to make one of the keys
into the other key, so now you need to press three things at once. And what
order do you do them in?


It is like shift-letter to get a cap. Not a big deal. Apple has them for the F
keys... they are rarely needed on a Mac and are used for other things (like
volume and brightness)... but CAN be used for function keys if needed. You can
set which is the default based on your needs.



Also do not like the weird hand calisthenics needed with Control,
though not a big deal.

I press the CTRL with my little finger, and the X/C/V with my
first finger. I'd find CMD in the wrong place - next to spacebar
isn't it? Too close.

I use my thumb for the Command key... and out of habit do so when
on Windows
or Linux, so yeah, I likely am having the issue because I do it
wrong. I also
am a CRAPPY typist... the "normal" way uses so many fingers!

Thumb on Command means V is too far for my first finger to reach,
unless you have longer fingers than me.

The Command button is right next to the space bar. Z, X, C, and V are
right
about it.

Your keyboard seems to have the spacebar further right than a PC. That
would make me keep missing the space. Typical Apple, to **** with
standards.

I have an Apple keyboard, but it works fine with pretty much any keyboard.

How do you press CMD?


Use one of the standard keys on the keyboard... whether designed for Mac or
Windows. You can configure it easily:



https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploa...references.jpg

Just checked the current OS -- looks much the same but they have added the
"function" or "fn" key to the mix.


ROFL! Using software to fix a problem that shouldn't exist.


It exists largely to help deal with "broken" Windows keyboards.

Remember the "disk light" extension so you could see if there was disk
activity? All for the sake of removing a very useful LED.


I had it for a while. Never needed it. And now they have the same type utility
for Windows:


https://www.ghacks.net/2019/12/27/ss...r-for-windows/



Apple set the desktop standard for where the "added" key was... MS did not
follow until 1994 when they added the "Windows key".

Apple never set standards, they break them.


For the GUI Apple (and NeXT) very much set the standard. Some time ago I
compiled a list of things Apple (and NeXT) were, as far as I could tell, the
first to use:

* Double clicking
* Trash can (or the like)
* Graying out inactive items
* Checkmarks next to menu items
* Keyboard shortcuts for menu items
* Drag and drop
* Full file system in GUI (as icons)
* GUI based hierarchical folder structure
* Editing documents with direct mouse manipulation
* The clipboard (and later one with multiple versions of the same data
so you can paste plain text or formatted text, etc.)
* Control panel to set system settings
* Pull down menus
* Desktop accessories (now known as widgets or gadgets)
* Meta-data associations with icons (data about the data being
associated with the file)
* Self-redrawing windows (at Apple) and later windows where the image
was still held in memory even when not visible, making the redraw be
instantaneous from the perspective of a user (called double buffering
and done at NeXT)
* X to close a window (this is from NeXT - I was surprised by that)


The first is never the best.


Well, Apple has modified it over the years. I *should* have added that it was
someone else, not Apple, who modified menus so you did not have to hold the
mouse button down. That was ergonomically bad. Not sure if it was MS or who
that made the change though.

In the late 1980s I was teaching computers... only one of the teachers at my
school using a GUI. I had no idea of Apple or MS Word would be around in the
future, but I knew that basic paradigm was here to stay. And it has (with some
updates, of course).

Pretty much the modern idea of the GUI is from Apple.


Do you seriously think if they hadn't, noone else would have?


We have no way to know. Some likely yes... but ideas are often only obvious
once we see them.

MS also did introduce
some things which have become common:

* Contextual (right click) menus
* Drag indicators (to show copying, moving, making a shortcut / alias)
* The Start button

Apple has no Start Button, but they have adopted the other two.


How the **** do you start a program?

Is it true longer fingers and longer toes mean a longer cock?

I only have myself as an example.

Get out more :-)

I did not compare even before the pandemic. Finger sizes or other.

Not even a quick look in a changing room?


Why would I?


To see if you're normal. Or to find out which ones are gay.


I don't care.


I refuse to spend much time proving an idiot wrong.

I spend too much time doing so.

I noticed. Particularly with Dustin.

He, along with Carroll, are on auto-read. I should put Pothead there, given
how he is likely a Carroll sock... or at the very least tries to emulate
Carroll in posting almost nothing but insane attacks.

Auto read means it's tempting for you to still look, which you keep doing.
Mine are shoved in a seperate folder I never look in unless something went
in there in error.


I do not think my current client allows me to move them. I do not want them
deleted so I can see them if I want, or in a search, but moving them would
be
better.

Even worse is if I am looking at the forum as it updates it shows me the
read
posts -- so I sometimes see Carroll and Gremlin are still posting. But there
is no actual desire to read their posts and I have not been. I *KNOW* what
they are posting, at least in broad strokes. Why read their victim mentality
nonsense when I know it before I open it?


Because it's natural for humans to be inquisitive.


And to be fair I have taken Gremlin out of auto-read for now. I get Carroll:
years ago he admitted he does not care if he lies to those he attacks with
insults. I know he is just trying to get attention with his insults, attacks,
lies, socks, etc. I know he simply has the biggest victim mentality I have
ever seen. But with Gremlin I do not know if he is being sincere or not in his
claims to not understand how one can be good at X but still not be good at Y
and even be a fraud when talking about Y.

Not a hard concept. I make some pretty good waffles. Goodie for me. I could go
into details on it if anyone cared. But if I were to say I make great
sourdough bread and talked about it as my adding as much salt as I do flour
then it would be clear I was a fraud in terms of my claims about sourdough
bread, EVEN IF I was the inspiration for Weird Al to write this song about the
Waffle King:

https://youtu.be/ySkA91dT5Rg

Disclaimer: I am neither confirming nor denying if I was Weird Al's
inspiration.

Speaking of being a crappy typists, I have no idea what error I
made, but the
autocorrect changed "irks" to "girls". Um, what?

It remembers how often you use that term and deems it likely, my
phone does the same when sending texts. Just what websites have you
been using? Better get a VPN or someone like diesel will out you.

I do not type "girls" often, but I do have a VPN. Don't use it much.

It's handy if you get banned from a forum. I'm also an Italian :-)
Changed my writing style too.

I use it to get to some BBC content. Shhhh.... don't tell them.

I've done the same, would you believe some BBC content is available in the
USA but not the UK? WTF?


I have seen that as well, though I cannot remember with what content.


Harry Enfield clips on Youtube (a UK comedy). Probably the BBC banning it
being seen without a TV license, but since they export stuff to you for free,
at the expense of UK citizens, they don't block it over there.


Still weird.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.


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We use Control for other things.


HE uses YOU to get sucked off, every time he feels the need to get sucked
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On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 1:36:19 PM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:20:20 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 16, 2021 at 11:45:35 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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...

Terminals use things like Control+C to abort (terminate) a processes. You try
to copy and you literally kill whatever process (app) you are using! Some
processes will thankfully warn you and you do not lose everything, but the
concept is absurd. The UNIX way was first... then Apple used the Command key
(they used to call it the Open Apple key) and then Windows and later Linux
copied the Mac but did it in a way where they used the UNIX keys to do the
wrong thing. On Windows that is not quite so bad, but Linux is a UNIX clone.

Ah, I do copy and paste from command prompts in windows, but I've never tried doing it incorrectly (that sounds German). I highlight and press enter. Paste works as normal. But then I used to use DOS and CTRL-C for "break" is embedded in my head. And the earlier command prompts in Windows didn't allow pasting, so when it came in I remembered the highlight and enter method.

It is not that big of a deal, especially given how being command line it gives
a mental context change -- but why not have it be the same for both?

Because one of them would have to change. Presumably nobody thought of it at the time, or they developed in tandem seperately.

The UNIX convention was there long before the GUI hit key conventions.. Apple
did it right... they created a new hot key for the GUI. Windows copied the
Mac, but went to the UNIX hot key, and when they did that they created
overlap.

But you have an extra pointless key.


No more than on PCs.

Shift, Control, Option, and Command.
Shift, Control, Alt, and Windows.

We didn't used to have the stupid extra context key. The windows key is very useful, but your command key just functions as ctrl.
Same number of "modifier" keys. Some keyboards also have a "function" key for
things like the number pad.

Those are intolerable and only there for tiny laptops. Very annoying when trying to do a two key combination but Fn is required to make one of the keys into the other key, so now you need to press three things at once. And what order do you do them in?
Also do not like the weird hand calisthenics needed with Control,
though not a big deal.

I press the CTRL with my little finger, and the X/C/V with my first finger. I'd find CMD in the wrong place - next to spacebar isn't it? Too close.

I use my thumb for the Command key... and out of habit do so when on Windows
or Linux, so yeah, I likely am having the issue because I do it wrong. I also
am a CRAPPY typist... the "normal" way uses so many fingers!

Thumb on Command means V is too far for my first finger to reach, unless you have longer fingers than me.

The Command button is right next to the space bar. Z, X, C, and V are right
about it.

Your keyboard seems to have the spacebar further right than a PC. That would make me keep missing the space. Typical Apple, to **** with standards.

I have an Apple keyboard, but it works fine with pretty much any keyboard.

How do you press CMD?


Use one of the standard keys on the keyboard... whether designed for Mac or
Windows. You can configure it easily:


https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploa...references.jpg

Just checked the current OS -- looks much the same but they have added the
"function" or "fn" key to the mix.

ROFL! Using software to fix a problem that shouldn't exist. Remember the "disk light" extension so you could see if there was disk activity? All for the sake of removing a very useful LED.
Apple set the desktop standard for where the "added" key was... MS did not
follow until 1994 when they added the "Windows key".

Apple never set standards, they break them.


For the GUI Apple (and NeXT) very much set the standard. Some time ago I
compiled a list of things Apple (and NeXT) were, as far as I could tell, the
first to use:

* Double clicking
* Trash can (or the like)
* Graying out inactive items
* Checkmarks next to menu items
* Keyboard shortcuts for menu items
* Drag and drop
* Full file system in GUI (as icons)
* GUI based hierarchical folder structure
* Editing documents with direct mouse manipulation
* The clipboard (and later one with multiple versions of the same data
so you can paste plain text or formatted text, etc.)
* Control panel to set system settings
* Pull down menus
* Desktop accessories (now known as widgets or gadgets)
* Meta-data associations with icons (data about the data being
associated with the file)
* Self-redrawing windows (at Apple) and later windows where the image
was still held in memory even when not visible, making the redraw be
instantaneous from the perspective of a user (called double buffering
and done at NeXT)
* X to close a window (this is from NeXT - I was surprised by that)

The first is never the best.
Pretty much the modern idea of the GUI is from Apple.

Do you seriously think if they hadn't, noone else would have?
MS also did introduce
some things which have become common:

* Contextual (right click) menus
* Drag indicators (to show copying, moving, making a shortcut / alias)
* The Start button

Apple has no Start Button, but they have adopted the other two.

How the **** do you start a program?
Is it true longer fingers and longer toes mean a longer cock?

I only have myself as an example.

Get out more :-)

I did not compare even before the pandemic. Finger sizes or other.

Not even a quick look in a changing room?


Why would I?

To see if you're normal. Or to find out which ones are gay.
I refuse to spend much time proving an idiot wrong.

I spend too much time doing so.

I noticed. Particularly with Dustin.

He, along with Carroll, are on auto-read. I should put Pothead there, given
how he is likely a Carroll sock... or at the very least tries to emulate
Carroll in posting almost nothing but insane attacks.

Auto read means it's tempting for you to still look, which you keep doing. Mine are shoved in a seperate folder I never look in unless something went in there in error.


I do not think my current client allows me to move them. I do not want them
deleted so I can see them if I want, or in a search, but moving them would be
better.

Even worse is if I am looking at the forum as it updates it shows me the read
posts -- so I sometimes see Carroll and Gremlin are still posting. But there
is no actual desire to read their posts and I have not been. I *KNOW* what
they are posting, at least in broad strokes. Why read their victim mentality
nonsense when I know it before I open it?

Because it's natural for humans to be inquisitive.
Speaking of being a crappy typists, I have no idea what error I made, but the
autocorrect changed "irks" to "girls". Um, what?

It remembers how often you use that term and deems it likely, my phone does the same when sending texts. Just what websites have you been using? Better get a VPN or someone like diesel will out you.

I do not type "girls" often, but I do have a VPN. Don't use it much..

It's handy if you get banned from a forum. I'm also an Italian :-) Changed my writing style too.

I use it to get to some BBC content. Shhhh.... don't tell them.

I've done the same, would you believe some BBC content is available in the USA but not the UK? WTF?


I have seen that as well, though I cannot remember with what content.

Harry Enfield clips on Youtube (a UK comedy). Probably the BBC banning it being seen without a TV license, but since they export stuff to you for free, at the expense of UK citizens, they don't block it over there.



There will be a charge for sure
i pay via my cable company

mk5000

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There will be a charge for sure
i pay via my cable company

mk5000


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On Mar 24, 2021 at 11:55:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:07:17 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 16, 2021 at 11:52:42 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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...
Building a stronger tie between productivity and financial gain, which is
largely what the left is working for, encourages work.

You're spouting meaningless waffle.

Your failure to understand does not weaken the comment in any way.

You sound like the extreme left Labour government in the UK. What you said is meaningless and incorrect.

Just proclaiming it incorrect does not weaken the argument.

Before the argument is lost in the "yes it is" "no it's not" nonsense, all I
am saying is that when there is stronger tie between productivity and
financial gain, as the left (generally) promotes, this is better for the
individual and for the economy. This does not mean we should have a 1:1 tie --
those who are disabled or otherwise unable to be productive should be taken
care of.


But a stronger link is created by the right wing.


The right wing in the US pushes the idea that funding the rich (where you get
about a 70% return) is the way to go. It is part of the reason why the economy
does so much better under Democrats.


The government shouldn't fund anyone or anything. Let it play out itself. Companies that do well are successful. Those that don't need to go under.

Left wing doesb't let you keep the extra money you earn.


They have not been able to push through changes I would like to see, but at
least many on the left get why it is insane workers have seen less than a 15%
increase in wages since 1980 but CEOs have seen over a 1000% increase.


It's because they're not worth more. If I want to employ someone, and there are 500 people capable of doing it, I don't need to pay much. If one leaves, I just get another. But if it's a technical job with hard to find skills, I need to pay a lot so I don't lose them. Supply and demand, a nice simple mechanism that should not be tampered with.

There's no incentive to be productive if the government steals a third of your hard earned cash.


In the US we have more taken than elsewhere (including taxes and health
insurance premiums). I would like to see us move to something akin to the
models where we pay less and get more.


That's the ****e the UK left wing party spouts. They take less money, give out more money, and put the government in debt. Then the right wing gets in, economises to claw back that debt, and gets moaned at for putting taxes up and not handing out so many freebies.

What we do in the US, though, is backward. We "invest" in the rich more than
we do the poor, though our returns there are less than what we put in... with
the poor we get back more than we invest. It is not complex: a 70% return is
far worse than 140% return. Adding to that, we in America pay an outrageous
amount for sub-standard services: when you include taxes and insurance
premiums we pay over 40% of the money we do get (and remember we do not get
all the money we earn), where in other nations it is FAR less than that --
generally about half of what Americans pay.


Nobody should be paying anything.


That is when you get to the point of moving to a deserted island and not
having to deal with all the services you get from society. No roads or running
water, no Internet or electricity, none of the stuff you take for granted that
comes in part from the tax dollars you do not want to pay.


Bull****! You want electricity, you pay the electricity company! No government needed!

How can taking half your earnings in tax link productivity with finance?

The average person in the US has 43% of their money going to tax and health
insurance.

So half what they earn is stolen to fund other people. That is criminal.

We call it "freedom" and "choice" in the US to be able to pick which
corporation is going to actively work to deny us healthcare so they can earn a
buck.


That's the way it should be. In the UK we're stuck with the most inefficient and useless health care system possible. And we don't get a choice to use another one in a lot of cases.


You pay less and have better outcomes.


We pay on average £300 a month. And we pay whether we want to or not, that is theft, plain and simple.

I am not saying there is no room for
improvement but why pay more for less?


I didn't say that. I said you should have the choice who to pay, or to pay nothing at all and risk paying if and when you get sick.

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org...alth-premiums/

For most countries it is under half that. And in America we not only pay more
but get far less.

Small correction he for most it is around half. In GB it is about 26% for
example... which is more than half of 43% but still significantly less.

If I work twice as hard, I don't get twice the money, so why work hard?

There are many things which disincentive work in the US, though I do not
really care how hard you work, I care more about how productive you are. And
even then there need not be a 1:1 connection, but the connection in the US is
*heavily* broken.

If you produce more, you would earn more money.

With the exception of those who cannot work (or should not, such as kids)


Why shouldn't they? They're fitter than adults. Get them being productive instead of sending them to school to be brainwashed, or to learn things they'll never need. Learn on the job.


Child abuse is not a great thing, though I have no issue with teens having
some type of work.


Why do you call work "abuse"? It's no worse for a kid working than an adult. We don't like it either.

that is what I support.


No you don't, you want people who earn more to pay more taxes.


I back what *I* say I did. You get no say in it (though I am open to listening
and might have my mind changed).

But it simply a fact I back having a stronger tie between productivity and
financial gain.


Make up your mind. If someone produces more, he pays more tax. That's not linking the two, that's breaking the link, the government taking that financial gain away from him.

Except the government steals it from you, so no point in working harder.

I want to see that reduced. This is largely what the concept of a Social
Democracy is about.

In a Social Democracy the government works largely for the citizens as a
whole, investing in infrastructure and the people. Most major industries are
privately owned (Capitalism), but they get few government handouts and are
generally held accountable for their own risks and costs. Also sometimes
referred to as the "Nordic Model", or something akin to it. With this system
the middle class does better, poverty decreases, and the environment suffers
less harm. This system is defined by the respect for human rights and the
environment.


I never vote for anyone who is for "human rights" or "the environment".


That is very much how American conservatives are -- and with the US being so
conservative it is why we are so far behind the rest of the world in many
ways.


What the **** is a "conservative"? Your parties are called "Democrat" and "Republican". Stick to those well known terms so at least I know who you're on about.
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 20:09:23 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 25, 2021 at 11:36:13 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:20:20 -0000, Snit wrote:

On Mar 16, 2021 at 11:45:35 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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...

Terminals use things like Control+C to abort (terminate) a
processes. You try
to copy and you literally kill whatever process (app) you are using! Some
processes will thankfully warn you and you do not lose everything,
but the
concept is absurd. The UNIX way was first... then Apple used the
Command key
(they used to call it the Open Apple key) and then Windows and
later Linux
copied the Mac but did it in a way where they used the UNIX keys
to do the
wrong thing. On Windows that is not quite so bad, but Linux is a
UNIX clone.

Ah, I do copy and paste from command prompts in windows, but I've
never tried doing it incorrectly (that sounds German). I highlight and
press enter. Paste works as normal. But then I used to use DOS and
CTRL-C for "break" is embedded in my head. And the earlier command
prompts in Windows didn't allow pasting, so when it came in I
remembered the highlight and enter method.

It is not that big of a deal, especially given how being command line
it gives
a mental context change -- but why not have it be the same for both?

Because one of them would have to change. Presumably nobody thought of
it at the time, or they developed in tandem seperately.

The UNIX convention was there long before the GUI hit key conventions.
Apple
did it right... they created a new hot key for the GUI. Windows copied the
Mac, but went to the UNIX hot key, and when they did that they created
overlap.

But you have an extra pointless key.

No more than on PCs.

Shift, Control, Option, and Command.
Shift, Control, Alt, and Windows.


We didn't used to have the stupid extra context key. The windows key is very
useful, but your command key just functions as ctrl.


We use Control for other things.


You don't need that many things. You'd never remember 52 of them.

And there is still the issue of copying and
pasting in a terminal with Windows and Linux. They copied Apple poorly, making
it so you have to do different things for the terminal. Why? What benefit is
that? And having to use the less dextrous pinky or stretching your hand in odd
ways just to copy and paste is also not as good.


What's wrong with things being different in different places? Making everything the same is the mistake MS made with Windows 8, trying to make a desktop work like a phone. It's not a phone. I don't want my microwave to have controls like a car either.

In the end, though, not a huge deal either way. Just a shame MS did a
half-assed job in their copying.


What do you press in a Mac command prompt to break?

Same number of "modifier" keys. Some keyboards also have a "function" key
for
things like the number pad.


Those are intolerable and only there for tiny laptops. Very annoying when
trying to do a two key combination but Fn is required to make one of the keys
into the other key, so now you need to press three things at once. And what
order do you do them in?


It is like shift-letter to get a cap. Not a big deal. Apple has them for the F
keys... they are rarely needed on a Mac and are used for other things (like
volume and brightness)... but CAN be used for function keys if needed. You can
set which is the default based on your needs.


Pressing one shift key is fine. But Fn adds an extra one, so a two key combo becomes three. Do you press CTRL or Fn first?

Also do not like the weird hand calisthenics needed with Control,
though not a big deal.

I press the CTRL with my little finger, and the X/C/V with my
first finger. I'd find CMD in the wrong place - next to spacebar
isn't it? Too close.

I use my thumb for the Command key... and out of habit do so when
on Windows
or Linux, so yeah, I likely am having the issue because I do it
wrong. I also
am a CRAPPY typist... the "normal" way uses so many fingers!

Thumb on Command means V is too far for my first finger to reach,
unless you have longer fingers than me.

The Command button is right next to the space bar. Z, X, C, and V are
right
about it.

Your keyboard seems to have the spacebar further right than a PC. That
would make me keep missing the space. Typical Apple, to **** with
standards.

I have an Apple keyboard, but it works fine with pretty much any keyboard.

How do you press CMD?

Use one of the standard keys on the keyboard... whether designed for Mac or
Windows. You can configure it easily:



https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploa...references.jpg

Just checked the current OS -- looks much the same but they have added the
"function" or "fn" key to the mix.


ROFL! Using software to fix a problem that shouldn't exist.


It exists largely to help deal with "broken" Windows keyboards.


Windows is the more popular OS. Mac is therefore broken. I thought you like standardisation?

Remember the "disk light" extension so you could see if there was disk
activity? All for the sake of removing a very useful LED.


I had it for a while. Never needed it.


You need it to tell if the computer has hung up or busy.

And now they have the same type utility for Windows:

https://www.ghacks.net/2019/12/27/ss...r-for-windows/


Why would I need that with the blue LED on the front of my desktop?

Apple set the desktop standard for where the "added" key was... MS did not
follow until 1994 when they added the "Windows key".

Apple never set standards, they break them.

For the GUI Apple (and NeXT) very much set the standard. Some time ago I
compiled a list of things Apple (and NeXT) were, as far as I could tell, the
first to use:

* Double clicking
* Trash can (or the like)
* Graying out inactive items
* Checkmarks next to menu items
* Keyboard shortcuts for menu items
* Drag and drop
* Full file system in GUI (as icons)
* GUI based hierarchical folder structure
* Editing documents with direct mouse manipulation
* The clipboard (and later one with multiple versions of the same data
so you can paste plain text or formatted text, etc.)
* Control panel to set system settings
* Pull down menus
* Desktop accessories (now known as widgets or gadgets)
* Meta-data associations with icons (data about the data being
associated with the file)
* Self-redrawing windows (at Apple) and later windows where the image
was still held in memory even when not visible, making the redraw be
instantaneous from the perspective of a user (called double buffering
and done at NeXT)
* X to close a window (this is from NeXT - I was surprised by that)


The first is never the best.


Well, Apple has modified it over the years. I *should* have added that it was
someone else, not Apple, who modified menus so you did not have to hold the
mouse button down. That was ergonomically bad. Not sure if it was MS or who
that made the change though.

In the late 1980s I was teaching computers... only one of the teachers at my
school using a GUI. I had no idea of Apple or MS Word would be around in the
future, but I knew that basic paradigm was here to stay. And it has (with some
updates, of course).


Have they made a taskbar yet? That floating dock I saw with the first OS X was ****. I couldn't tell the difference between a running program and an alias.

Pretty much the modern idea of the GUI is from Apple.


Do you seriously think if they hadn't, noone else would have?


We have no way to know. Some likely yes... but ideas are often only obvious
once we see them.


It's obvious someone would have.

MS also did introduce
some things which have become common:

* Contextual (right click) menus
* Drag indicators (to show copying, moving, making a shortcut / alias)
* The Start button

Apple has no Start Button, but they have adopted the other two.


How the **** do you start a program?


Well?

Is it true longer fingers and longer toes mean a longer cock?

I only have myself as an example.

Get out more :-)

I did not compare even before the pandemic. Finger sizes or other.

Not even a quick look in a changing room?

Why would I?


To see if you're normal. Or to find out which ones are gay.


I don't care.


You've never looked up average penis length on google?

I refuse to spend much time proving an idiot wrong.

I spend too much time doing so.

I noticed. Particularly with Dustin.

He, along with Carroll, are on auto-read. I should put Pothead there, given
how he is likely a Carroll sock... or at the very least tries to emulate
Carroll in posting almost nothing but insane attacks.

Auto read means it's tempting for you to still look, which you keep doing.
Mine are shoved in a seperate folder I never look in unless something went
in there in error.

I do not think my current client allows me to move them. I do not want them
deleted so I can see them if I want, or in a search, but moving them would
be
better.

Even worse is if I am looking at the forum as it updates it shows me the
read
posts -- so I sometimes see Carroll and Gremlin are still posting. But there
is no actual desire to read their posts and I have not been. I *KNOW* what
they are posting, at least in broad strokes. Why read their victim mentality
nonsense when I know it before I open it?


Because it's natural for humans to be inquisitive.


And to be fair I have taken Gremlin out of auto-read for now. I get Carroll:
years ago he admitted he does not care if he lies to those he attacks with
insults. I know he is just trying to get attention with his insults, attacks,
lies, socks, etc. I know he simply has the biggest victim mentality I have
ever seen. But with Gremlin I do not know if he is being sincere or not in his
claims to not understand how one can be good at X but still not be good at Y
and even be a fraud when talking about Y.

Not a hard concept. I make some pretty good waffles. Goodie for me. I could go
into details on it if anyone cared. But if I were to say I make great
sourdough bread and talked about it as my adding as much salt as I do flour
then it would be clear I was a fraud in terms of my claims about sourdough
bread, EVEN IF I was the inspiration for Weird Al to write this song about the
Waffle King:

https://youtu.be/ySkA91dT5Rg

Disclaimer: I am neither confirming nor denying if I was Weird Al's
inspiration.


I don't understand how you can reply to the same inane waffle from Gremlin over and over again. It's way too tedious.

Speaking of being a crappy typists, I have no idea what error I
made, but the
autocorrect changed "irks" to "girls". Um, what?

It remembers how often you use that term and deems it likely, my
phone does the same when sending texts. Just what websites have you
been using? Better get a VPN or someone like diesel will out you.

I do not type "girls" often, but I do have a VPN. Don't use it much.

It's handy if you get banned from a forum. I'm also an Italian :-)
Changed my writing style too.

I use it to get to some BBC content. Shhhh.... don't tell them.

I've done the same, would you believe some BBC content is available in the
USA but not the UK? WTF?

I have seen that as well, though I cannot remember with what content.


Harry Enfield clips on Youtube (a UK comedy). Probably the BBC banning it
being seen without a TV license, but since they export stuff to you for free,
at the expense of UK citizens, they don't block it over there.


Still weird.


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