Need a roller for sliding glass door
ONe of the rollers on my sliding glass door seems to have failed.
It's tipped to one end, but the door still rolls easily. How strange. Is the maker of the door written anywhere on the door? Inside the handle? On the glass? Is there any decent way to buy a replacement roller or assembly *before* I take the door out? Otherwise, I either have to take it out twice, leave the house wide open while I go to the store, or find someone to house sit. That's assuming they sell it locally. What are the odds they sell it locally? The house and door are 41 years old. The frame is aluminum. Glass thermopane. Does that help? Do many of the roller assemblies for sale all fit in one kind of door? Maybe based only on the thickness of the door, which is usually the same? Would you do this alone if you were 74, fat, and hadn't been to the gym in a long time? I took it out once 35 years ago and it suprised me by trying to kick out from the bottom while I was holding it at the top. This time I'll be prepared for that, but I'm 35 years older. I did the moving part of each door last time. This is the narrower one. I watched a couple videos. Swisco wants me to send them multiple pictures and measurements and a description. https://www.swisco.com/blog/2020/11/0...? Ai-yai-yai: https://www.swisco.com/cl/Patio-Glas...-Wheel-Rollers |
Need a roller for sliding glass door
On 2/3/2021 1:21 AM, micky wrote:
ONe of the rollers on my sliding glass door seems to have failed. It's tipped to one end, but the door still rolls easily. How strange. Is the maker of the door written anywhere on the door? Inside the handle? On the glass? Is there any decent way to buy a replacement roller or assembly *before* I take the door out? Otherwise, I either have to take it out twice, leave the house wide open while I go to the store, or find someone to house sit. That's assuming they sell it locally. What are the odds they sell it locally? The house and door are 41 years old. The frame is aluminum. Glass thermopane. Does that help? Do many of the roller assemblies for sale all fit in one kind of door? Maybe based only on the thickness of the door, which is usually the same? Would you do this alone if you were 74, fat, and hadn't been to the gym in a long time? I took it out once 35 years ago and it suprised me by trying to kick out from the bottom while I was holding it at the top. This time I'll be prepared for that, but I'm 35 years older. I did the moving part of each door last time. This is the narrower one. I watched a couple videos. Swisco wants me to send them multiple pictures and measurements and a description. https://www.swisco.com/blog/2020/11/0...? Ai-yai-yai: https://www.swisco.com/cl/Patio-Glas...-Wheel-Rollers Last time I had that situation I replaced the doors. Horrid things that the builder put in. Aluminum frame is not good in CT in winter. I'd not try taking the door out alone. If you can find a couple of young guys that can take it out, then you can take the wheel assembly out, measure and photograph it, put the door back. Repeat when the new wheel comes. Ended up with a Marvin door. Had Pella for about 25 years before that. |
Need a roller for sliding glass door
On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 9:09:57 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/3/2021 1:21 AM, micky wrote: ONe of the rollers on my sliding glass door seems to have failed. It's tipped to one end, but the door still rolls easily. How strange. Is the maker of the door written anywhere on the door? Inside the handle? On the glass? Is there any decent way to buy a replacement roller or assembly *before* I take the door out? Otherwise, I either have to take it out twice, leave the house wide open while I go to the store, or find someone to house sit. That's assuming they sell it locally. What are the odds they sell it locally? The house and door are 41 years old. The frame is aluminum. Glass thermopane. Does that help? Do many of the roller assemblies for sale all fit in one kind of door? Maybe based only on the thickness of the door, which is usually the same? Would you do this alone if you were 74, fat, and hadn't been to the gym in a long time? I took it out once 35 years ago and it suprised me by trying to kick out from the bottom while I was holding it at the top. This time I'll be prepared for that, but I'm 35 years older. I did the moving part of each door last time. This is the narrower one. I watched a couple videos. Swisco wants me to send them multiple pictures and measurements and a description. https://www.swisco.com/blog/2020/11/0...? Ai-yai-yai: https://www.swisco.com/cl/Patio-Glas...-Wheel-Rollers Last time I had that situation I replaced the doors. Horrid things that the builder put in. Aluminum frame is not good in CT in winter. I'd not try taking the door out alone. If you can find a couple of young guys that can take it out, then you can take the wheel assembly out, measure and photograph it, put the door back. Repeat when the new wheel comes. Ended up with a Marvin door. Had Pella for about 25 years before that. I guess it depends on the size of the door, where it's located and how much it's used, what the consequence is of taking it apart in winter are. I would think there would be a decent chance that HD, etc has a replacement, but IDK how you can identify it, without taking the door out to see it. Wait for warm weather, take it out, have someone stay there while you go to HD? |
Need a roller for sliding glass door
micky wrote
ONe of the rollers on my sliding glass door seems to have failed. Quite a few of mine have failed, I have 13 massive great patio doors, all rooms except the bathrooms and toilets have at least one and only the bathrooms and toilets and kitchens have normal windows as well. It's tipped to one end, Not sure what you mean by that. but the door still rolls easily. How strange. Not really if its just moved along under the door. Is the maker of the door written anywhere on the door? Inside the handle? On the glass? Nothing like that on mine. Is there any decent way to buy a replacement roller or assembly *before* I take the door out? Not if you cant identify the manufacturer. Someone may be able to identify the door if there is something unusual about it mechanically. Otherwise, I either have to take it out twice, leave the house wide open while I go to the store, or find someone to house sit. That's assuming they sell it locally. And you may find replacement wheels arent available anymore. What are the odds they sell it locally? Impossible to say. The house and door are 41 years old. The frame is aluminum. Glass thermopane. Does that help? Nope, that was very common then. Do many of the roller assemblies for sale all fit in one kind of door? Not clear what you are asking there. There are lots of different roller assemblys even with that particular type of door you have. Maybe based only on the thickness of the door, which is usually the same? Fraid not. Would you do this alone if you were 74, fat, and hadn't been to the gym in a long time? I can just do it myself, but it's a real bugger putting it back. And I'm roughly the same age, but not fat. Got a mate of mine to help me with the last one, the doors are ****ing heavy. I took it out once 35 years ago and it suprised me by trying to kick out from the bottom while I was holding it at the top. Mine don't do that. This time I'll be prepared for that, but I'm 35 years older. I did the moving part of each door last time. This is the narrower one. Mine are the same size for the both the fixed and moving part, each 4' wide. I watched a couple videos. Swisco wants me to send them multiple pictures and measurements and a description. https://www.swisco.com/blog/2020/11/0...? Sounds like the best approach. Ai-yai-yai: https://www.swisco.com/cl/Patio-Glas...-Wheel-Rollers |
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Need a roller for sliding glass door
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 4 Feb 2021 04:43:30 +1100, "Rod Speed" wrote: micky wrote ONe of the rollers on my sliding glass door seems to have failed. Quite a few of mine have failed, I have 13 massive great patio doors, all rooms except the bathrooms and toilets have at least one and only the bathrooms and toilets and kitchens have normal windows as well. It's tipped to one end, Not sure what you mean by that. Thanks for everyone's advice. Just to clarify this, the left side of the door is no longer vertical and the top doesn't quite meet the frame, so it's tipped to one end. but the door still rolls easily. How strange. Yet it still rolls well so I guess the roller wheel is good but the metal frame of the roller has partly collapsed. Not really if its just moved along under the door. Is the maker of the door written anywhere on the door? Inside the handle? On the glass? Nothing like that on mine. Is there any decent way to buy a replacement roller or assembly *before* I take the door out? Not if you cant identify the manufacturer. Someone may be able to identify the door if there is something unusual about it mechanically. Otherwise, I either have to take it out twice, leave the house wide open while I go to the store, or find someone to house sit. That's assuming they sell it locally. And you may find replacement wheels arent available anymore. The link at the bottom shows 109 designs! so I'm optimistic. What are the odds they sell it locally? Impossible to say. The house and door are 41 years old. The frame is aluminum. Glass thermopane. Does that help? Nope, that was very common then. Do many of the roller assemblies for sale all fit in one kind of door? Not clear what you are asking there. There are lots of different roller assemblys even with that particular type of door you have. I figured that all that mattered is that it fits in the opening in the door and the attachment screw is (roughly?) the right height to match the door, Maybe based only on the thickness of the door, which is usually the same? Fraid not. Would you do this alone if you were 74, fat, and hadn't been to the gym in a long time? I can just do it myself, but it's a real bugger putting it back. And I'm roughly the same age, but not fat. Got a mate of mine to help me with the last one, the doors are ****ing heavy. I think I could do it with a friend, but Corona is another problem. I took it out once 35 years ago and it suprised me by trying to kick out from the bottom while I was holding it at the top. Mine don't do that. Just because you had a better grip on it. I'm busy holding the top and somehow the bottom was going in the other direction until I stopped it with my foot or something. This time I'll be prepared for that, but I'm 35 years older. I did the moving part of each door last time. This is the narrower one. Mine are the same size for the both the fixed and moving part, each 4' wide. My fault. Two separate doors, four panes. this is the narrower, lighter door but I'm too lazy to go downstairs and measure the width. I watched a couple videos. Swisco wants me to send them multiple pictures and measurements and a description. https://www.swisco.com/blog/2020/11/0...? Sounds like the best approach. Ai-yai-yai: https://www.swisco.com/cl/Patio-Glas...-Wheel-Rollers Ed, I hate to replace a whole door for a 10 dollar part, but you might be right anyhow. In the past I got furnace and AC parts and even an identical bathroom sink to replace mine that got chipped, by noticing when neighbors with identical houses got new furnaces or AC or a sink, and I used several of the parts, but I've never seen say, a sliding door frame with broken glass but good rollers. If I had I would have taken the rollers. I suppose if any door glass did break, whoever fixed it removed the old door (and saved the rollers for himself), |
Need a roller for sliding glass door
micky wrote
Rod Speed wrote micky wrote ONe of the rollers on my sliding glass door seems to have failed. Quite a few of mine have failed, I have 13 massive great patio doors, all rooms except the bathrooms and toilets have at least one and only the bathrooms and toilets and kitchens have normal windows as well. It's tipped to one end, Not sure what you mean by that. Thanks for everyone's advice. Just to clarify this, the left side of the door is no longer vertical and the top doesn't quite meet the frame, so it's tipped to one end. but the door still rolls easily. How strange. Yet it still rolls well so I guess the roller wheel is good but the metal frame of the roller has partly collapsed. Yeah, very likely. Not really if its just moved along under the door. Is the maker of the door written anywhere on the door? Inside the handle? On the glass? Nothing like that on mine. Is there any decent way to buy a replacement roller or assembly *before* I take the door out? Not if you cant identify the manufacturer. Someone may be able to identify the door if there is something unusual about it mechanically. Otherwise, I either have to take it out twice, leave the house wide open while I go to the store, or find someone to house sit. That's assuming they sell it locally. And you may find replacement wheels arent available anymore. The link at the bottom shows 109 designs! so I'm optimistic. What are the odds they sell it locally? Impossible to say. The house and door are 41 years old. The frame is aluminum. Glass thermopane. Does that help? Nope, that was very common then. Do many of the roller assemblies for sale all fit in one kind of door? Not clear what you are asking there. There are lots of different roller assemblys even with that particular type of door you have. I figured that all that mattered is that it fits in the opening in the door and the attachment screw is (roughly?) the right height to match the door, Mine are much more complicated than that. The wheel assembly has a sort of flat hook like thing that slides into a couple of slots in the aluminum frame of the door with a screw to keep it in place. And the whole wheel assembly is height adjustable so you lower the wheel with a screw that you access thru a whole in the frame at each end of the sliding door with a screwdriver. That is to prevent the moving door from being removed from the frame without the moving pane being unlocked. And the other variable is the wheel itself, that varys with the extrusion that the wheel runs on, with a hard plastic U shaped tire on the wheel. That U shaped tire is what fails most of the time with mine. Maybe based only on the thickness of the door, which is usually the same? Fraid not. Would you do this alone if you were 74, fat, and hadn't been to the gym in a long time? I can just do it myself, but it's a real bugger putting it back. And I'm roughly the same age, but not fat. Got a mate of mine to help me with the last one, the doors are ****ing heavy. I think I could do it with a friend, but Corona is another problem. Yep. I took it out once 35 years ago and it suprised me by trying to kick out from the bottom while I was holding it at the top. Mine don't do that. Just because you had a better grip on it. Nope. The wheels on mine are still running on the track when you have wound the wheels into the frame so the top of the sliding panel come out of the frame at the top. So the top comes out of the fixed frame and you then lift the bottom off the track to remove it completely. I'm busy holding the top and somehow the bottom was going in the other direction until I stopped it with my foot or something. Mine don't because of the hard plastic U shaped tire on the wheel still holds it on the track. This time I'll be prepared for that, but I'm 35 years older. I did the moving part of each door last time. This is the narrower one. Mine are the same size for the both the fixed and moving part, each 4' wide. My fault. Two separate doors, four panes. this is the narrower, lighter door but I'm too lazy to go downstairs and measure the width. I watched a couple videos. Swisco wants me to send them multiple pictures and measurements and a description. https://www.swisco.com/blog/2020/11/0...? Sounds like the best approach. Ai-yai-yai: https://www.swisco.com/cl/Patio-Glas...-Wheel-Rollers Ed, I hate to replace a whole door for a 10 dollar part, Yeah me too, the doors were bloody expensive 50 years ago and cost even more today. Massive great armoured glass isnt cheap at all. but you might be right anyhow. In the past I got furnace and AC parts and even an identical bathroom sink to replace mine that got chipped, by noticing when neighbors with identical houses got new furnaces or AC or a sink, and I used several of the parts, but I've never seen say, a sliding door frame with broken glass but good rollers. If I had I would have taken the rollers. Since I got 13 of the doors when building the house, the manufacturer gave me a box of spare rollers and locks. I suppose if any door glass did break, whoever fixed it removed the old door (and saved the rollers for himself), |
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Need a roller for sliding glass door
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 4 Feb 2021 09:31:00 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote: Intesting stuff snipped to save space. In the past I got furnace and AC parts and even an identical bathroom sink to replace mine that got chipped, by noticing when neighbors with identical houses got new furnaces or AC or a sink, and I used several of the parts, but I've never seen say, a sliding door frame with broken glass but good rollers. If I had I would have taken the rollers. Since I got 13 of the doors when building the house, the manufacturer gave me a box of spare rollers and locks. Seems fair. This is s jerry-built house, with only the first sprayed coat of paint, and the first owner I bought it from had painted some more, but he was terrible. He'd touch up flat paint with semi-gloss in a couple places, and he painted a couple of the interior plastic doorknobs. He did save and give me all the paperwork and surprisingly to me that included "instructions" for the doorknobs that the builder had put in . With that I was able to find the same doorknobs for sale, at only one place in Baltimore. (It wasn't a big chain and it was on the far side of town. I don't know how I found it without a computer or making a lot of calls or writing to the manufacturer but I did.) I just wanted two, but he urged me to take his whole remaining box for maybe $5. They were taking up too much space for him. So that's all I've got in terms of replacment parts, and door knobs dont' wear out anyhow. He was cold all the time and he also caulked terribly, no straight lines of even width. I trimmed out all of the excess, but of course now the trim lines are flat in places, not rounded. He moved back to Louisiana where it was warm enough for him. He worked for Social Security, HQed in Baltimore and they found him a job at the branch in La. He also put in another layer or wall on 3 walls of the main bedroom, to keep warm. He did a pretty good job on that, including lining the closet with cork and then sheetrock**, but he covered over the phone jack. I didn't khow where it was so I ran another one. **Either he didn't want to hear the neighbors or he didn't want them to hear him. |
Need a roller for sliding glass door
On Wed, 03 Feb 2021 01:21:59 -0500, micky posted for all of us to digest... ONe of the rollers on my sliding glass door seems to have failed. It's tipped to one end, but the door still rolls easily. How strange. Is the maker of the door written anywhere on the door? Inside the handle? On the glass? Is there any decent way to buy a replacement roller or assembly *before* I take the door out? Otherwise, I either have to take it out twice, leave the house wide open while I go to the store, or find someone to house sit. That's assuming they sell it locally. What are the odds they sell it locally? The house and door are 41 years old. The frame is aluminum. Glass thermopane. Does that help? Do many of the roller assemblies for sale all fit in one kind of door? Maybe based only on the thickness of the door, which is usually the same? Would you do this alone if you were 74, fat, and hadn't been to the gym in a long time? I took it out once 35 years ago and it suprised me by trying to kick out from the bottom while I was holding it at the top. This time I'll be prepared for that, but I'm 35 years older. I did the moving part of each door last time. This is the narrower one. I watched a couple videos. Swisco wants me to send them multiple pictures and measurements and a description. https://www.swisco.com/blog/2020/11/0...? Ai-yai-yai: https://www.swisco.com/cl/Patio-Glas...-Wheel-Rollers Micky, I had the same problem years ago. Contact a glass co near you or maybe they will want a pix. They came out with (no pix) two men and replaced the roller and straightened the lower guide. About 45 minutes & $75. I think the kids have taken over the biz so I think the prices have gone up but they are busy as heck. Good luck. -- Tekkie |
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