OT. Computer Purchase Advice
 

It happens that formulated :
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 05:36:53 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 2:29:42 PM UTC-5,
wrote:

It is nice to have discussions like this to keep abreast of what is
going on in the computer world as one year is like a dog year and a 5
year old computer is middle aged in computer years.

" bleeding edge " technology... as in bleeding your wallet .. :-)
My present computer serves me just fine - thank you ..
12 year old Vista era Thinkpad running Win 8 Pro.
I've had it ~ 3 years it cost me $ 140. plus $ 40. for a battery.
I recently added a memory stick to get up to 6 gigs, and an SSD.
It does zoom and streaming .. I can't figure out what am I missing ?
John T.

What are you using for a web browser? I have laptop on XP and there are
no browser's left today that I could find, except for Mypal, which is a
Firefox derivative. Antivirus not many choice left either. That's a big
problem, dwindling software choices. And I'm not doing anything that
requires being able to play videos, having up to date Adobe Flash Player,
etc.


FireFox 68.8.0 esr upgraded from a very old version earlier this
year - seems OK so far - I do need to use Chrome for viewing on
Imgur - haven't looked into why - I don't get any error messages
just a blank dark Imgur page ..
I have an idle P4 tower that is on Xp Pro - I've used it once
this year just as a test - it still does the basics.
John T.

I get the same from Imgur, some trimmings around the edges but the
'canvas' remains dark grey. My Chrome browser does the same thing.

Too bad when posters post images and discuss them here without
describing them and I can't see them.

Someone once posted one with angle brackets around it, and it worked.
Then I tried the original - and it worked too. Then later back to dark
grey every time since.

Old version won't upgrade on my XP machine. 52.9.0.6746

OT. Computer Purchase Advice
 

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:37:43 -0500, FromTheRafters
wrote:

It happens that formulated :
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 05:36:53 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 2:29:42 PM UTC-5,
wrote:

It is nice to have discussions like this to keep abreast of what is
going on in the computer world as one year is like a dog year and a 5
year old computer is middle aged in computer years.

" bleeding edge " technology... as in bleeding your wallet .. :-)
My present computer serves me just fine - thank you ..
12 year old Vista era Thinkpad running Win 8 Pro.
I've had it ~ 3 years it cost me $ 140. plus $ 40. for a battery.
I recently added a memory stick to get up to 6 gigs, and an SSD.
It does zoom and streaming .. I can't figure out what am I missing ?
John T.

What are you using for a web browser? I have laptop on XP and there are
no browser's left today that I could find, except for Mypal, which is a
Firefox derivative. Antivirus not many choice left either. That's a big
problem, dwindling software choices. And I'm not doing anything that
requires being able to play videos, having up to date Adobe Flash Player,
etc.


FireFox 68.8.0 esr upgraded from a very old version earlier this
year - seems OK so far - I do need to use Chrome for viewing on
Imgur - haven't looked into why - I don't get any error messages
just a blank dark Imgur page ..
I have an idle P4 tower that is on Xp Pro - I've used it once
this year just as a test - it still does the basics.
John T.

I get the same from Imgur, some trimmings around the edges but the
'canvas' remains dark grey. My Chrome browser does the same thing.
Too bad when posters post images and discuss them here without
describing them and I can't see them.
Someone once posted one with angle brackets around it, and it worked.
Then I tried the original - and it worked too. Then later back to dark
grey every time since.
Old version won't upgrade on my XP machine. 52.9.0.6746


There was some java monkey-business a few years back -
- I found this link but don't fully understand all the ins-and-outs
and history ...

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/npapi-plugins

I upgraded FireFox today on my Win 8.1 Pro laptop
to version 84.0 and Imgur seems to work OK now.
... the browser seems a tad faster also.
John T.

OT. Computer Purchase Advice
 

was thinking very hard :
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:37:43 -0500, FromTheRafters
wrote:

It happens that formulated :
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 05:36:53 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 2:29:42 PM UTC-5,
wrote:

It is nice to have discussions like this to keep abreast of what is
going on in the computer world as one year is like a dog year and a 5
year old computer is middle aged in computer years.

" bleeding edge " technology... as in bleeding your wallet .. :-)
My present computer serves me just fine - thank you ..
12 year old Vista era Thinkpad running Win 8 Pro.
I've had it ~ 3 years it cost me $ 140. plus $ 40. for a battery.
I recently added a memory stick to get up to 6 gigs, and an SSD.
It does zoom and streaming .. I can't figure out what am I missing ?
John T.

What are you using for a web browser? I have laptop on XP and there are
no browser's left today that I could find, except for Mypal, which is a
Firefox derivative. Antivirus not many choice left either. That's a
big problem, dwindling software choices. And I'm not doing anything that
requires being able to play videos, having up to date Adobe Flash Player,
etc.


FireFox 68.8.0 esr upgraded from a very old version earlier this
year - seems OK so far - I do need to use Chrome for viewing on
Imgur - haven't looked into why - I don't get any error messages
just a blank dark Imgur page ..
I have an idle P4 tower that is on Xp Pro - I've used it once
this year just as a test - it still does the basics.
John T.

I get the same from Imgur, some trimmings around the edges but the
'canvas' remains dark grey. My Chrome browser does the same thing.
Too bad when posters post images and discuss them here without
describing them and I can't see them.
Someone once posted one with angle brackets around it, and it worked.
Then I tried the original - and it worked too. Then later back to dark
grey every time since.
Old version won't upgrade on my XP machine. 52.9.0.6746


There was some java monkey-business a few years back -
- I found this link but don't fully understand all the ins-and-outs
and history ...

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/npapi-plugins

I upgraded FireFox today on my Win 8.1 Pro laptop
to version 84.0 and Imgur seems to work OK now.
... the browser seems a tad faster also.
John T.

Thanks. I guessed it might be something like that.

OT. Computer Purchase Advice
 

On 12/16/2020 04:00 PM, wrote:
There was some java monkey-business a few years back -
- I found this link but don't fully understand all the ins-and-outs
and history ...

Both the NPAPI plugins and ActiveX were pretty much drummed out of
polite society around 2017. We had been using a Java applet and phased
it out in favor of standalone installations. The applet was nice since
you only had to out updates on the server rather than installing it on a
bunch of machines but so it goes.

Flash will be the next thing to go and was supposed to be phased out by
the end of the year. It was another security problem. Any site using it
better be busy developing an alternative. It will be like digital TV.
There was a shoestring Christian channel but they either didn't know how
or didn't have the money to go digital so they're gone. I miss seeing
Joel Osteen's oily little weasel face when I scan the OTA channels,
really I do.

lowbrowwoman, Birdbrain's eternal senile whore!
 

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 20:35:41 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

On 12/16/2020 04:00 PM, wrote:
There was some java monkey-business a few years back -
- I found this link but don't fully understand all the ins-and-outs
and history ...

Both the NPAPI plugins and ActiveX were pretty much drummed out of
polite society around 2017. We had been using a Java applet and phased
it out in favor of standalone installations. The applet was nice since
you only had to out updates on the server rather than installing it on a
bunch of machines but so it goes.

LOL You REALLY love to juggle with words, eh, senile chatterbox?

FLUSH rest of the usual wordy senile crap