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What do you call the bandage-like stuff that they put on wounds in
places where band-aids don't fit. It's like translucent rubber, sticks
tightly to the skin and moreso to hair, and the doctor called it by name
twice but he talked too fast for me.

I was hoping to google and find advice for removing it, 'cause as much
as I pull, some places it won't free up.
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On Fri, 04 Dec 2020 18:03:26 -0500, micky
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What do you call the bandage-like stuff that they put on wounds in
places where band-aids don't fit. It's like translucent rubber, sticks
tightly to the skin and moreso to hair, and the doctor called it by name
twice but he talked too fast for me.

I was hoping to google and find advice for removing it, 'cause as much
as I pull, some places it won't free up.



My first guess was liquid suture but
my google search found this - derma bond -

https://insidefirstaid.com/bleeding/...issue-adhesive

John T.

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On 12/4/20 6:03 PM, micky wrote:
What do you call the bandage-like stuff that they put on wounds in
places where band-aids don't fit. It's like translucent rubber, sticks
tightly to the skin and moreso to hair, and the doctor called it by name
twice but he talked too fast for me.

I was hoping to google and find advice for removing it, 'cause as much
as I pull, some places it won't free up.


Skin Shield" maybe ?

https://www.medshopexpress.com/skin-...eliever-0-45oz

https://www.cvs.com/shop/cvs-health-...-prodid-336846

https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailyme...f&type=display

to remove, nih says:
"To remove: peel off or apply a fresh layer of product over dry product
and using gauze, rub off gently while still wet."
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In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 04 Dec 2020 18:15:46 -0500,
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On Fri, 04 Dec 2020 18:03:26 -0500, micky
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What do you call the bandage-like stuff that they put on wounds in
places where band-aids don't fit. It's like translucent rubber, sticks
tightly to the skin and moreso to hair, and the doctor called it by name
twice but he talked too fast for me.

I was hoping to google and find advice for removing it, 'cause as much
as I pull, some places it won't free up.



My first guess was liquid suture but
my google search found this - derma bond -

https://insidefirstaid.com/bleeding/...issue-adhesive

John T.


Thanks a lot, but I don't think that's it . "Dermabond
(2-octyl-cyanoacrylate) is one of the only [few] surgical glues..." so
it's superglue or similar. I don't know if he used anything to close
the hole he made for the needle (into the femoral artery). I think he
just useed gauze, but I'm still trying to get the "bandage" off.
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In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 4 Dec 2020 18:17:12 -0500,
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On 12/4/20 6:03 PM, micky wrote:
What do you call the bandage-like stuff that they put on wounds in
places where band-aids don't fit. It's like translucent rubber, sticks
tightly to the skin and moreso to hair, and the doctor called it by name
twice but he talked too fast for me.

I was hoping to google and find advice for removing it, 'cause as much
as I pull, some places it won't free up.


Skin Shield" maybe ?

https://www.medshopexpress.com/skin-...eliever-0-45oz


I think it's something like that, but 10 times as tough, 10 times as
hard to get off, and probly 2 or 3 times as thick.

https://www.cvs.com/shop/cvs-health-...-prodid-336846

https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailyme...f&type=display

to remove, nih says:
"To remove: peel off or apply a fresh layer of product over dry product
and using gauze, rub off gently while still wet."


Thanks a lot. I don't have any fresh product. The nurse told me to go
around the edges and be careful pulling lest I pull some of my skin
off!!

And using your and hub's leads, I found this
https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/...ng-removal.pdf

This name also doesn't sound like what the doctor said, but the second
set of instructions sound like wha the nurse said, and the first set
sound even better:


Proper tape removal is critical in reducing the occurrence of traumatic
skin injuries. [So it only reduces them. Even proper tape removal
doesn't eliminate them. :-( I don't have tape, but the rest sounds
similar.]

3M™ Tegaderm™ Transparent Film Dressing.
Stretch method
Rub piece of tape onto one corner of the Tegaderm dressing. [I either
don't understand this line, or it was stuck too tight for tape to lift
it. But I managed to get my fingers underneath most of it.]
Gently lift edge.
With other hand, place fingers on top of dressing to support skin.
Gently stretch the Tegaderm dressing straight out and parallel to
skin. This will release the adhesion of the dressing to the skin. As the
Tegaderm dressing is loosened, you may either (1) alternately stretch
and relax the dressing or (2) “walk” your fingers under the dressing to
continue stretching it. With both approaches, one hand continually
supports the skin adhered to the Tegaderm dressing.

[I think I used number 1 mostly, but I'm not done yet.]

Tape peel method
This procedure is similar to the method described for removing tape
strips [above, not quoted here]
Stabilise skin next to the Tegaderm dressing.
With other hand, grasp one edge of the dressing.
Slowly peel dressing back over itself, “low and slow,” in direction of
hair growth. [I don't know what direction the hair grows there. Does
anyone keep track of that? She shaved the area but the bandage is now
bigger than the shaved area.] Removing dressing at an angle will pull at
the epidermis, increasing risk of mechanical trauma. As dressing is
removed, continue moving finger as necessary, supporting newly exposed
skin.


BTW, I have noticed with other tape on things, that pulling back at 180^
is more likely to get tape off nicely, without damaging the surface. I'm
sure most of you have noticed that too, and apparently it applies here
too. "back over itself, not at an angle".

So now I've got most of it loosened, except at the center. Right where
I think the wound was, a bunch of gauze is explosed, with all the vinyl
dangling around it.


This is definitely the hardest part of a cardiac catheterization (I
passed. Was told the stress tess in the PET scan was a false positive.)

The other interesting part was at the end after he'd taken out the
catheter and everything and was, I guess, trying to keep it from
bleeding. He leaned on my body with some of his weight, 20 or 30
pounds, over and over for 3, 4, maybe 5 minutes. I don't know when he
"poured" or however he applied this bandage, (before or after all this
pressing) but the "bandage" goes about 1" top to bottom but 6" left to
right, just where my body bends. At the end near the centerline, I
hadn't been shaved. Ouch. (I thought it would be 2 or 3 inches farther
down my leg but I suppose that varies, just like the places for blood
tests vary depending on where they find a vessel.)

I wish they'd included more and better instructions in the discharge
papers they gave me. The nurse spent 2 or 3 minutes on it but the
papers just say "Remove dressing in 24 hours". None of the details she
gave, let alone the added ones I would like. No url. And I was sedated
for the procedure. Not much and I was wide awake afterwards but surely
some people are still groggy. After all, they tell you not to drive and
she waited with me at the front door until a taxi came.

She also told me I could shower the next day but had to wait a week to
take a bath (because water could sneak into the wound). The papers they
gave me said I could do either the next day.

They sent me a form to review their procedures and I'll work from this
post and tell them all this.


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They sent me a form to review their procedures and I'll work from this
post and tell them all this.



You GO girl !

They'll all be thrilled with your report !

.... as we will be.

John T.

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In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 4 Dec 2020 19:53:01 -0500, Frank "frank
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On 12/4/2020 6:15 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 04 Dec 2020 18:03:26 -0500, micky
wrote:

What do you call the bandage-like stuff that they put on wounds in
places where band-aids don't fit. It's like translucent rubber, sticks
tightly to the skin and moreso to hair, and the doctor called it by name
twice but he talked too fast for me.

I was hoping to google and find advice for removing it, 'cause as much
as I pull, some places it won't free up.



My first guess was liquid suture but
my google search found this - derma bond -

https://insidefirstaid.com/bleeding/...issue-adhesive


This is Dermabond. "Dermabond has become the surgical glue of choice in
the United States." So it's meant to be used by doctors or very skilled
DIYers.

John T.


Googled this up:

https://www.riteaid.com/shop/new-ski...SABEgJBZfD_BwE


For a while I thought you were saying this was the same thing as the
first one above.

Safety data sheet shows it is nitrocellulose solution.

Further reading says it is for small cuts and should not go into the
wound itself which should be pinched shut, I guess.


This might be basically the same thing that was used on me. He used a
bunch of gauze at the wound so I don't think any of the bandage stuff
went ino the "wound".

Just a hole where he put in a catheter so small it could go through my
artery all the way up to my heart. Diameter of the artery: "Reference
values of vascular diameters decreased from proximal to distal arteries:
common iliac = 1.18cm; internal iliac = 0.75cm; external iliac = 1.03cm;
proximal femoral = 1.02cm; distal femoral = 0.77cm; popliteal = 0.69cm;
anterior tibial = 0.42cm; posterior tibial = 0.38cm; fibular = 0.40cm"

I don't understand much of this but it seems like it's between 1 and
0.77 cm in diameter. Internal or external I don't know but either way
it's pretty big and that's why it's hard to stop it from bleeding later.
They warned me that it might spurt!! My wrist once spurted 2 to 3
inches and this would put out a much greater amount of blood.


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In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 04 Dec 2020 18:03:26 -0500, micky
wrote:

What do you call the bandage-like stuff that they put on wounds in
places where band-aids don't fit. It's like translucent rubber, sticks
tightly to the skin and moreso to hair, and the doctor called it by name
twice but he talked too fast for me.

I was hoping to google and find advice for removing it, 'cause as much
as I pull, some places it won't free up.



Well, I got an email with the medical report, and it said what he used,
angioseal. When he talked to me beforehand, he'd used the word twice,
but I couldn't rememeber it.

https://www.terumois.com/products/cl...ngio-seal.html

This is definitely on topic for AHR, because if you follow the steps in
the url above, you can repair your arteries at home.

No more driving to the doctor, especially when you're not feeling well,
no more long waits in the waiting room, no more exposure to all those
corona-sick people, no more labor charges, only the cost of the VCD.
And no more return trips to the doctor, because Angio-seal dissolves
by itself.


One of the first things I read about it was "The device creates a
mechanical seal by sandwiching the arteriotomy between a bioabsorbable
anchor and collagen sponge, which DISSOLVE IN 60 to 90 DAYS." Huh, so
why did I have to work so hard to get it off?***

It took me 5 tries over 24 hours. And most of those hurt, not to
mention worrying about ripping my skin off. ***Because he was talking
about sealing the artery, not covering the wound.

If you're curious, watch ANGIO-SEAL VIP DEPLOYMENT ANIMATION, half-way
down. Very interesting, unexpected, all animated, but it's still a
little scary if you're at all squeamish. The last part explains why he
was pushing on me so hard at the end**, and the middle part explains why
they were wiping me off a lot, far from the "insertion point". His
report said I lost less than 30cc of blood. Just 2 tablespoons, not
much but enough to get all over the place.

**I like being awake for these things.
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What do you call the bandage-like stuff that they put on wounds in
places where band-aids don't fit. It's like translucent rubber, sticks
tightly to the skin and moreso to hair, and the doctor called it by name
twice but he talked too fast for me.

I was hoping to google and find advice for removing it, 'cause as much
as I pull, some places it won't free up.


Tegaderm

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On Fri, 04 Dec 2020 18:03:26 -0500, micky posted for all of us to digest...


What do you call the bandage-like stuff that they put on wounds in
places where band-aids don't fit. It's like translucent rubber, sticks
tightly to the skin and moreso to hair, and the doctor called it by name
twice but he talked too fast for me.

I was hoping to google and find advice for removing it, 'cause as much
as I pull, some places it won't free up.


Tegaderm


or Duoderm

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