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Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leaving a big damp patch
I had New bathroom fitted few months back the shower is fitted above the fuse box which is in the hall .I have noticed when I have a shower there's a damp patch around the fuse box.I have had a plumber round who has told me he would have to get to the back of the shower and pull all my beautiful new tiles off .and maybe have to get under the bath and pull tiles off the side panel.And a electrician who has sad he will take my new shower off and put new one on and put a new fuse board on that he has told me it's going to be compulsory he may have to take tiles of to see if it's leaking this is going to cost around £1000 the plumber that did the bathroom said he is to busy to come back and is now avoiding me .the house is 25 years old .I dont know what yo do will it couse a fire .any idea would be helpfull.
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Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leavinga big damp patch
On 12/4/2020 9:31 AM, Colette wrote:
I had New bathroom fittedÂ* few months back the shower is fitted above the fuse box which is in the hall .I have noticed when I have a shower there's a damp patch around the fuse box.I have had a plumber round who has told me he would have to get to the back of the shower and pull all my beautiful new tiles off .and maybe have to get under the bath and pull tiles off the side panel.And a electrician who has sad he will take my new shower off and put new one on and put a new fuse board on that he has told me it's going to be compulsoryÂ* he may have to take tiles of to see if it's leaking this is going to cost aroundÂ* £1000 the plumber that did the bathroom said he is to busy to come back and is now avoiding me .the house is 25 years old .I dont know what yo do will it couse a fire .any idea would be helpfull. Is this a new location for the shower? It was dumb to run water in a location like that to start with. If the first plumber refuses to come back he should be reported to whatever agency oversees the licenses in your country as that is irresponsible. He may be liable for any costs you incur if it was his fault. It must be fixed, even if times have to be removed. I can't see it so cannot suggest a better method. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leavinga big damp patch
On 12/4/2020 9:31 AM, Colette wrote:
I had New bathroom fittedÂ* few months back the shower is fitted above the fuse box which is in the hall .I have noticed when I have a shower there's a damp patch around the fuse box.I have had a plumber round who has told me he would have to get to the back of the shower and pull all my beautiful new tiles off .and maybe have to get under the bath and pull tiles off the side panel.And a electrician who has sad he will take my new shower off and put new one on and put a new fuse board on that he has told me it's going to be compulsoryÂ* he may have to take tiles of to see if it's leaking this is going to cost aroundÂ* £1000 the plumber that did the bathroom said he is to busy to come back and is now avoiding me .the house is 25 years old .I dont know what yo do will it couse a fire .any idea would be helpfull. Before those clowns rip your shower walls apart, do an inspection with a snake cam to make sure the plumbing is actually leaking. https://www.amazon.com/DEPSTECH-Wate.../dp/B01MYTHWK4 |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leavinga big damp patch
On 04/12/2020 14:45, Carlos Peraza wrote:
On 12/4/2020 9:31 AM, Colette wrote: I had New bathroom fittedÂ* few months back the shower is fitted above the fuse box which is in the hall .I have noticed when I have a shower there's a damp patch around the fuse box.I have had a plumber round who has told me he would have to get to the back of the shower and pull all my beautiful new tiles off .and maybe have to get under the bath and pull tiles off the side panel.And a electrician who has sad he will take my new shower off and put new one on and put a new fuse board on that he has told me it's going to be compulsoryÂ* he may have to take tiles of to see if it's leaking this is going to cost around £1000 the plumber that did the bathroom said he is to busy to come back and is now avoiding me .the house is 25 years old .I dont know what yo do will it couse a fire .any idea would be helpfull. Before those clowns rip your shower walls apart, do an inspection with a snake cam to make sure the plumbing is actually leaking. https://www.amazon.com/DEPSTECH-Wate.../dp/B01MYTHWK4 If the damp patch appears after every shower, I'd say it's pretty clear that it's a leak from that plumbing work. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leavinga big damp patch
On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 10:02:09 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 04/12/2020 14:45, Carlos Peraza wrote: On 12/4/2020 9:31 AM, Colette wrote: I had New bathroom fitted few months back the shower is fitted above the fuse box which is in the hall .I have noticed when I have a shower there's a damp patch around the fuse box.I have had a plumber round who has told me he would have to get to the back of the shower and pull all my beautiful new tiles off .and maybe have to get under the bath and pull tiles off the side panel.And a electrician who has sad he will take my new shower off and put new one on and put a new fuse board on that he has told me it's going to be compulsory he may have to take tiles of to see if it's leaking this is going to cost around £1000 the plumber that did the bathroom said he is to busy to come back and is now avoiding me .the house is 25 years old .I dont know what yo do will it couse a fire .any idea would be helpfull. Before those clowns rip your shower walls apart, do an inspection with a snake cam to make sure the plumbing is actually leaking. https://www.amazon.com/DEPSTECH-Wate.../dp/B01MYTHWK4 If the damp patch appears after every shower, I'd say it's pretty clear that it's a leak from that plumbing work. He has to also rule out that it's not water escaping from a shower curtain or door onto the floor and then leaking down. And it could also be an escutheon around one of the handles, etc that is leaking, not the plumbing itself. He should eliminate those possibilities, one at a time, eg direct water using a large hose or something, so that it goes right from shower head to drain, run it awhile, see what happens. Someone suggested a video cam and opening a strategically located hole to take a look while testing would be a good idea. Can probably find a cheap video cam on Ebay, Amazon, etc. It could also be water leaking at tile joints, if that was done improperly, which again can be ruled in or out via some testing. Regarding the non-responsive plumber, I would send him a demand letter, via registered mail so that he has proof it was mailed and received. Or whatever you have in the UK that is similar. Save proof of phone call records too. In the letter give him a reasonable time to come fix it, eg two weeks and explain that if he does not, then you will get someone else to fix it and bill him for it. If it comes to that, then here in the US you could sue him in small claims court, IDK about UK courts. Take good pictures of it all too. Regarding the electrician, unless there is evidence the water has ruined the electric panel, I wouldn't be rushing to replace that. If water is making it to the panel, then don't use the shower until it's fixed and if there is no other facility available, shorten that two weeks for the plumber to maybe 5 days. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leaving a big damp patch
On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 14:31:19 +0000, Colette
wrote: I had New bathroom fitted few months back the shower is fitted above the fuse box which is in the hall .I have noticed when I have a shower there's a damp patch around the fuse box.I have had a plumber round who has told me he would have to get to the back of the shower and pull all my beautiful new tiles off .and maybe have to get under the bath and pull tiles off the side panel.And a electrician who has sad he will take my new shower off and put new one on and put a new fuse board on that he has told me it's going to be compulsory he may have to take tiles of to see if it's leaking this is going to cost around £1000 the plumber that did the bathroom said he is to busy to come back and is now avoiding me .the house is 25 years old .I dont know what yo do will it couse a fire .any idea would be helpfull. It might be easier to access all of that from the hall if that wall is easier than tile to fix. In the US that would just be drywall and no big deal to replace. If you open up the wall you should be able to find the leak and also assess any mold problems you may have created. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leaving a big damp patch
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 4 Dec 2020 08:19:26 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote: On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 10:02:09 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote: On 04/12/2020 14:45, Carlos Peraza wrote: On 12/4/2020 9:31 AM, Colette wrote: I had New bathroom fitted few months back the shower is fitted above the fuse box which is in the hall .I have noticed when I have a shower there's a damp patch around the fuse box.I have had a plumber round who has told me he would have to get to the back of the shower and pull all my beautiful new tiles off .and maybe have to get under the bath and pull tiles off the side panel.And a electrician who has sad he will take my new shower off and put new one on and put a new fuse board on that he has told me it's going to be compulsory he may have to take tiles of to see if it's leaking this is going to cost around £1000 the plumber that did the bathroom said he is to busy to come back and is now avoiding me .the house is 25 years old .I dont know what yo do will it couse a fire .any idea would be helpfull. Before those clowns rip your shower walls apart, do an inspection with a snake cam to make sure the plumbing is actually leaking. https://www.amazon.com/DEPSTECH-Wate.../dp/B01MYTHWK4 If the damp patch appears after every shower, I'd say it's pretty clear that it's a leak from that plumbing work. He has to also rule out that it's not water escaping from a shower curtain or door onto the floor and then leaking down. And it could also be an escutheon around one of the handles, etc that is leaking, not the plumbing itself. He should eliminate those possibilities, My current problem is that it leaks downstairs only when the tub is being filled. Not when the tub is draining. If it leaks when showering, I haven't checked but probably. (I use another shower.) So people here say it come be coming out by the faucent stem packing and then running back into the wall. Or a pipe or joint could be leaking. one at a time, eg direct water using a large hose or something, so that it goes right from shower head to drain, run it awhile, see what happens. Someone suggested a video cam and opening a strategically located hole to take a look while testing would be a good idea. Can probably find a cheap video cam on Ebay, Amazon, etc. It could also Definitely. $20 or 30 for a 5- or 6-foot laparascape. be water leaking at tile joints, if that was done improperly, which again can be ruled in or out via some testing. Regarding the non-responsive plumber, I would send him a demand letter, via registered mail so that he has proof it was mailed and received. Or whatever you have in the UK that is similar. Save proof of phone call records too. In the letter give him a reasonable Texting is good because you have a record, if he has a phone number that receives texts (any cell phoen**). but save the texts you've send and if you get a new phone, transfer them to to the new phone. It looks so lame when plaintiffs claim to have texted and they all say the phone was lost or broken or they got a new one. **This is how Inspector Clousseau spelled it. It's pronounced phuon or phuon. time to come fix it, eg two weeks and explain that if he does not, then you will get someone else to fix it and bill him for it. If it comes to that, then here in the US you could sue him in small claims court, IDK about UK courts. Take good pictures of it all too. +1 Regarding the electrician, unless there is evidence the water has ruined the electric panel, I wouldn't be rushing to replace that. If water is making it to the panel, then don't use the shower until it's fixed and if there is no other facility available, shorten that two weeks for the plumber to maybe 5 days. +1 Can the fuse box be removed from the wall and spacers or spacers and a non-absorbant board be put in to keep it off the wet spot? |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leaving a big damp patch
On Fri, 04 Dec 2020 16:12:50 -0500, micky
wrote: My current problem is that it leaks downstairs only when the tub is being filled. Not when the tub is draining. If it leaks when showering, I haven't checked but probably. (I use another shower.) It sounds more like the stem inside the spout is leaking but that and the faucet stems should be visible if you remove the trim bezels or the spout. I would start with the bezels. There isn't much between the valve and the end of the spout to leak. Typically there is either a pipe nipple extending out of the wall into the spout or the spout itself threads into the valve body (the 2 common styles). The valve stem packing is trivial to do if the knobs come off easily. They do make pullers for that. I have had to cut them off tho. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leaving a big damp patch
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Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leavinga big damp patch
On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 4:12:59 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 4 Dec 2020 08:19:26 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 10:02:09 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote: On 04/12/2020 14:45, Carlos Peraza wrote: On 12/4/2020 9:31 AM, Colette wrote: I had New bathroom fitted few months back the shower is fitted above the fuse box which is in the hall .I have noticed when I have a shower there's a damp patch around the fuse box.I have had a plumber round who has told me he would have to get to the back of the shower and pull all my beautiful new tiles off .and maybe have to get under the bath and pull tiles off the side panel.And a electrician who has sad he will take my new shower off and put new one on and put a new fuse board on that he has told me it's going to be compulsory he may have to take tiles of to see if it's leaking this is going to cost around £1000 the plumber that did the bathroom said he is to busy to come back and is now avoiding me .the house is 25 years old .I dont know what yo do will it couse a fire .any idea would be helpfull. Before those clowns rip your shower walls apart, do an inspection with a snake cam to make sure the plumbing is actually leaking. https://www.amazon.com/DEPSTECH-Wate.../dp/B01MYTHWK4 If the damp patch appears after every shower, I'd say it's pretty clear that it's a leak from that plumbing work. He has to also rule out that it's not water escaping from a shower curtain or door onto the floor and then leaking down. And it could also be an escutheon around one of the handles, etc that is leaking, not the plumbing itself. He should eliminate those possibilities, My current problem is that it leaks downstairs only when the tub is being filled. Not when the tub is draining. If it leaks when showering, I haven't checked but probably. (I use another shower.) So people here say it come be coming out by the faucent stem packing and then running back into the wall. Or a pipe or joint could be leaking. one at a time, eg direct water using a large hose or something, so that it goes right from shower head to drain, run it awhile, see what happens. Someone suggested a video cam and opening a strategically located hole to take a look while testing would be a good idea. Can probably find a cheap video cam on Ebay, Amazon, etc. It could also Definitely. $20 or 30 for a 5- or 6-foot laparascape. be water leaking at tile joints, if that was done improperly, which again can be ruled in or out via some testing. Regarding the non-responsive plumber, I would send him a demand letter, via registered mail so that he has proof it was mailed and received. Or whatever you have in the UK that is similar. Save proof of phone call records too. In the letter give him a reasonable Texting is good because you have a record, if he has a phone number that receives texts (any cell phoen**). but save the texts you've send and if you get a new phone, transfer them to to the new phone. It looks so lame when plaintiffs claim to have texted and they all say the phone was lost or broken or they got a new one. I wonder how many are telling the truth. I've had the same phone for 3 years, can't remember what happened when I did the transfer back then. I didn't have any texts worth saving. I would expect that the typical transfer today should save texts. You'd think texting apps would have the ability to export texts to a text file, but mine doesn't. Maybe other text apps do. That's the nice thing with Android, if you don't like the stock apps you can change most of them to something else. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leaving a big damp patch
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 5 Dec 2020 05:22:48 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote: Regarding the non-responsive plumber, I would send him a demand letter, via registered mail so that he has proof it was mailed and received. Or whatever you have in the UK that is similar. Save proof of phone call records too. In the letter give him a reasonable Texting is good because you have a record, if he has a phone number that receives texts (any cell phoen**). but save the texts you've send and if you get a new phone, transfer them to to the new phone. It looks so lame when plaintiffs claim to have texted and they all say the phone was lost or broken or they got a new one. I wonder how many are telling the truth. I've had the same phone for 3 years, can't remember what happened when I did the transfer back then. I didn't have any texts worth saving. I would expect that the typical transfer today should save texts. You'd think texting apps would have the ability to export texts to a text file, but mine doesn't. Maybe other text apps do. That's the nice thing with Android, if you don't like the stock apps you can change most of them to something else. I'm sure some people lose or break their phone and had none of their texts backed up, and I'm sure most people who buy a new phone don't even know how to copy texts to it. And they all say they didn't expect to sue or get sued, which I'm sure is true most of the time, but some people do know a displute is ongoing and a lawsuit is likely, and I'm sure many or most are lying about there once having had texts (why I said "claim"). The tv judges seem not to care if they're lying. All that matters is that they don't have them, so the reason doesn't matter. The best all-around utility for Android cell phones is MyPhoneExplorer, https://www.fjsoft.at/en/highlight.php . I don't have any texts worth saving either, so I haven't tried it but I'm sure it will back up your texts, like it backs up everything else, and it can then save them to a new phone. It also allows one to send texts, composing them on your PC with a full sized keyboard, though you do have to have your phone on and linked to send the text. It also makes transferring files back and forth easy, like photos, or if you download an apk on the PC. It will connect the PC to the phone via cable, bluetooth, or wifi. It requires a second part for the phone itself. That's at https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...xplorer.client This page is interesting too. If you have an adblocker turned on, you get https://www.fosshub.com/MyPhoneExplorer.html with a button for Cryptdonate. Click on that and it's like a foreign world. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leavinga big damp patch
On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 2:52:55 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 5 Dec 2020 05:22:48 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: Regarding the non-responsive plumber, I would send him a demand letter, via registered mail so that he has proof it was mailed and received. Or whatever you have in the UK that is similar. Save proof of phone call records too. In the letter give him a reasonable Texting is good because you have a record, if he has a phone number that receives texts (any cell phoen**). but save the texts you've send and if you get a new phone, transfer them to to the new phone. It looks so lame when plaintiffs claim to have texted and they all say the phone was lost or broken or they got a new one. I wonder how many are telling the truth. I've had the same phone for 3 years, can't remember what happened when I did the transfer back then. I didn't have any texts worth saving. I would expect that the typical transfer today should save texts. You'd think texting apps would have the ability to export texts to a text file, but mine doesn't. Maybe other text apps do. That's the nice thing with Android, if you don't like the stock apps you can change most of them to something else. I'm sure some people lose or break their phone and had none of their texts backed up, You're encouraged during setup to enable Google Account backup. If you do that, I think texts along with other key info will be backed up, but I don't remember what happened years ago with texts when I used it to move to a new phone. I know it did restore apps, contacts, etc., that all came right across to the new phone. and I'm sure most people who buy a new phone don't even know how to copy texts to it. A new phone comes with instructions on how to easily move what you have from the old phone to the new. AFAIK, using Google Account is just one, I think they may have utilities that will do it for you too. Apple has similar, it's all backed up in the cloud. Hard to imagine that in 2020 it would not include texts. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leaving a big damp patch
On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 09:42:41 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 12/4/2020 9:31 AM, Colette wrote: I had New bathroom fitted* few months back the shower is fitted above the fuse box which is in the hall .I have noticed when I have a shower there's a damp patch around the fuse box.I have had a plumber round who has told me he would have to get to the back of the shower and pull all my beautiful new tiles off .and maybe have to get under the bath and pull tiles off the side panel.And a electrician who has sad he will take my new shower off and put new one on and put a new fuse board on that he has told me it's going to be compulsory* he may have to take tiles of to see if it's leaking this is going to cost around* £1000 the plumber that did the bathroom said he is to busy to come back and is now avoiding me .the house is 25 years old .I dont know what yo do will it couse a fire .any idea would be helpfull. Is this a new location for the shower? It was dumb to run water in a location like that to start with. If the first plumber refuses to come back he should be reported to whatever agency oversees the licenses in your country as that is irresponsible. He may be liable for any costs you incur if it was his fault. It must be fixed, even if times have to be removed. I can't see it so cannot suggest a better method. The "plumber" was likely just a handyman "bodger", not a registered tradesman. Most likely cause of the dampness is not sealing around the pipes where they penetrate the tile/backer. I'd pull the estachions and caulk behind them with a good tile and tub caulk first before doing any extensive/expensive deconstruction and see if that solves the problem. Also seal all the tile grout with a clear tile sealer made for the job. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leaving a big damp patch
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 5 Dec 2020 13:21:11 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote: On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 2:52:55 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: and I'm sure most people who buy a new phone don't even know how to copy texts to it. A new phone comes with instructions on how to easily move what you have from the old phone to the new. Not all of them. Not my previous one, or I think my current one, or the one still in the box. AFAIK, using Google Account is just one, I think they may have utilities that will do it for you too. Apple has similar, it's all backed up in the cloud. Hard to imagine that in 2020 it would not include texts. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leaving a big damp patch
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 05 Dec 2020 17:40:09 -0500, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 5 Dec 2020 13:21:11 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 2:52:55 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: and I'm sure most people who buy a new phone don't even know how to copy texts to it. A new phone comes with instructions on how to easily move what you have from the old phone to the new. Not all of them. Not my previous one, or I think my current one, or the one still in the box. And even if there are instructions, that doesn't mean the owners know how to do it. AFAIK, using Google Account is just one, I think they may have utilities that will do it for you too. Apple has similar, it's all backed up in the cloud. Hard to imagine that in 2020 it would not include texts. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leavinga big damp patch
On 12/5/2020 2:25 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 09:42:41 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 12/4/2020 9:31 AM, Colette wrote: I had New bathroom fittedÂ* few months back the shower is fitted above the fuse box which is in the hall .I have noticed when I have a shower there's a damp patch around the fuse box.I have had a plumber round who has told me he would have to get to the back of the shower and pull all my beautiful new tiles off .and maybe have to get under the bath and pull tiles off the side panel.And a electrician who has sad he will take my new shower off and put new one on and put a new fuse board on that he has told me it's going to be compulsoryÂ* he may have to take tiles of to see if it's leaking this is going to cost aroundÂ* £1000 the plumber that did the bathroom said he is to busy to come back and is now avoiding me .the house is 25 years old .I dont know what yo do will it couse a fire .any idea would be helpfull. Is this a new location for the shower? It was dumb to run water in a location like that to start with. If the first plumber refuses to come back he should be reported to whatever agency oversees the licenses in your country as that is irresponsible. He may be liable for any costs you incur if it was his fault. It must be fixed, even if times have to be removed. I can't see it so cannot suggest a better method. The "plumber" was likely just a handyman "bodger", not a registered tradesman. Most likely cause of the dampness is not sealing around the pipes where they penetrate the tile/backer. I'd pull the estachions and caulk behind them with a good tile and tub caulk first before doing any extensive/expensive deconstruction and see if that solves the problem. Also seal all the tile grout with a clear tile sealer made for the job. Before I caulked them I would inspect carefully what you can see with the covers removed. My Depstech endoscope would perhaps be very helpful in diagnosing the problem. If you operate it the way you see the leak, you might be able to see better where the leak is through any gaps around the through the tile fittings. If the leak only happens when filling the tub, and not the shower, that would suggest a leak in the pipes from the valve to the shower. And vise-versa. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leaving a big damp patch
On Sat, 05 Dec 2020 17:42:25 -0500, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 05 Dec 2020 17:40:09 -0500, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 5 Dec 2020 13:21:11 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 2:52:55 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: and I'm sure most people who buy a new phone don't even know how to copy texts to it. A new phone comes with instructions on how to easily move what you have from the old phone to the new. Not all of them. Not my previous one, or I think my current one, or the one still in the box. And even if there are instructions, that doesn't mean the owners know how to do it. AFAIK, using Google Account is just one, I think they may have utilities that will do it for you too. Apple has similar, it's all backed up in the cloud. Hard to imagine that in 2020 it would not include texts. I'm not an apple person, but after being nudged into the apple world by my hearing aids and "inheriting" i-phones from , first my daughter, then a client, I found updating drom my old SE to my 8 was painless - and updating my wife from the 4 to the SE was just as simple. Previously I was in the Blackberry universe - and even there it was pretty simple. Moving from the 'Berry to the "other fruit phone" was a bit more complicated but I don't think I lost anything. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leaving a big damp patch
On Sat, 5 Dec 2020 21:17:51 -0800, Bob F wrote:
On 12/5/2020 2:25 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 09:42:41 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 12/4/2020 9:31 AM, Colette wrote: I had New bathroom fitted* few months back the shower is fitted above the fuse box which is in the hall .I have noticed when I have a shower there's a damp patch around the fuse box.I have had a plumber round who has told me he would have to get to the back of the shower and pull all my beautiful new tiles off .and maybe have to get under the bath and pull tiles off the side panel.And a electrician who has sad he will take my new shower off and put new one on and put a new fuse board on that he has told me it's going to be compulsory* he may have to take tiles of to see if it's leaking this is going to cost around* £1000 the plumber that did the bathroom said he is to busy to come back and is now avoiding me .the house is 25 years old .I dont know what yo do will it couse a fire .any idea would be helpfull. Is this a new location for the shower? It was dumb to run water in a location like that to start with. If the first plumber refuses to come back he should be reported to whatever agency oversees the licenses in your country as that is irresponsible. He may be liable for any costs you incur if it was his fault. It must be fixed, even if times have to be removed. I can't see it so cannot suggest a better method. The "plumber" was likely just a handyman "bodger", not a registered tradesman. Most likely cause of the dampness is not sealing around the pipes where they penetrate the tile/backer. I'd pull the estachions and caulk behind them with a good tile and tub caulk first before doing any extensive/expensive deconstruction and see if that solves the problem. Also seal all the tile grout with a clear tile sealer made for the job. Before I caulked them I would inspect carefully what you can see with the covers removed. My Depstech endoscope would perhaps be very helpful in diagnosing the problem. If you operate it the way you see the leak, you might be able to see better where the leak is through any gaps around the through the tile fittings. If the leak only happens when filling the tub, and not the shower, that would suggest a leak in the pipes from the valve to the shower. And vise-versa. After reading it is only when "filling the tub" - and NOT using the shower: 90+% chance it is the diveerter or the tub filling spout - the diverter would be my first guess - with water running back into the wall. It can NOT be the pipes if it doesn't leak whenthe water is not running - and particularly if not when the dhower is running (not filling the tub) Or mabee it is only when there IS water in the tub - which could be a drain issue or a cracked (acrylic) tub - - - Had one that only leaked with the tub full that was a problem with the seal around the drain - and another that was a cracked tub., Resealing the drain "tailpiece" solved the one - the other needed a tub replacement but was patched with epoxy in the short term (don't know if it was ever replaced) The drain was my daughter's. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leavinga big damp patch
On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 5:40:15 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 5 Dec 2020 13:21:11 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 2:52:55 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: and I'm sure most people who buy a new phone don't even know how to copy texts to it. A new phone comes with instructions on how to easily move what you have from the old phone to the new. Not all of them. Not my previous one, or I think my current one, or the one still in the box. AFAIK, using Google Account is just one, I think they may have utilities that will do it for you too. Apple has similar, it's all backed up in the cloud. Hard to imagine that in 2020 it would not include texts. This discussion got me interested in what exactly does or does not get backed up by Google on an Android phone. I was also thinking about rooting my phone, which would entail a factory reset, so it would matter. As to texts, I still don't know. I see most sources saying that Google doesn't back texts up. Others say that they do. Others say they do but it's optional or part of something other than the normal backup that happens all the time. So, IDK. But there are apps that will save them if you need them. As to complete backup of your android phone, it's a big, hot mess. It's very unclear exactly what gets backed up by Google and what does not. Looks like apps get backed up, so you can restore them. Whether that includes data too, IDK. It backs up some settings. I see nothing about it backing up other things, eg documents, files, pictures, videos, etc. There are other separate solutions for that, eg Dropbox, but you would think there would be complete backup options today. I could not find a comprehensive backup app for phones that are not rooted. Without root access, the backups can't backup most app data for example or wifi networks that you have names and PWDs set for. And the ones I looked at just dealt with apps, not with the files, pics, etc. On the other hand, if you have a rooted phone, then there are apps which will essentially make a backup of everything. I haven't used a restore in a couple years or more. When I did, I remember it did put back the apps, but I don't remember how much more I had to do, like re-entering account names, pwds, etc. It's actually amazing that for such an advanced OS and all the things people have on their phones that backup is so screwed up on Android. I finally decided not to root my phone. I was most interested in getting rid of the carrier bloatware on it, which you can only do via rooting. But I found a way to easily disable it permanently so that it no longer loads or does anything. It's still there taking up space and it may still get updated from the Playstore, but it won't run or show up as an installed app. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leavinga big damp patch
On 12/7/2020 5:50 AM, trader_4 wrote:
.. I finally decided not to root my phone. I was most interested in getting rid of the carrier bloatware on it, which you can only do via rooting. But I found a way to easily disable it permanently so that it no longer loads or does anything. It's still there taking up space and it may still get updated from the Playstore, but it won't run or show up as an installed app. Was that an android? What was the "way" to disable apps? |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leavinga big damp patch
On 12/7/2020 12:04 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 12/7/2020 5:50 AM, trader_4 wrote: . I finally decided not to root my phone.Â* I was most interested in getting rid of the carrier bloatware on it, which you can only do via rooting.Â* But I found a way to easily disable it permanently so that it no longer loads or does anything.Â* It's still there taking up space and it may still get updated from the Playstore, but it won't run or show up as an installed app. Was that an android? What was the "way" to disable apps? Settings . . . APPS....choose the app and then disable |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leaving a big damp patch
On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 09:04:52 -0800, Bob F wrote:
On 12/7/2020 5:50 AM, trader_4 wrote: . I finally decided not to root my phone. I was most interested in getting rid of the carrier bloatware on it, which you can only do via rooting. But I found a way to easily disable it permanently so that it no longer loads or does anything. It's still there taking up space and it may still get updated from the Playstore, but it won't run or show up as an installed app. Was that an android? What was the "way" to disable apps? The most effective way to get rid of apps on an Android is to shut it off - - - |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leavinga big damp patch
On 12/7/2020 9:20 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 12/7/2020 12:04 PM, Bob F wrote: On 12/7/2020 5:50 AM, trader_4 wrote: . I finally decided not to root my phone.Â* I was most interested in getting rid of the carrier bloatware on it, which you can only do via rooting.Â* But I found a way to easily disable it permanently so that it no longer loads or does anything.Â* It's still there taking up space and it may still get updated from the Playstore, but it won't run or show up as an installed app. Was that an android? What was the "way" to disable apps? Settings . . . APPS....choose the app and then disable For many of the installed apps on my phone, the phone just turns them back on. Email, Emergency Alerts, Gallery, Google play services, Help, My Verizon, Samsung Push services, Sim toolkit. It's an old Galaxy S5, so I don't expect automatic updates to ever be needed. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leavinga big damp patch
On 12/7/2020 11:02 AM, Bob F wrote:
On 12/7/2020 9:20 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 12/7/2020 12:04 PM, Bob F wrote: On 12/7/2020 5:50 AM, trader_4 wrote: . I finally decided not to root my phone.Â* I was most interested in getting rid of the carrier bloatware on it, which you can only do via rooting.Â* But I found a way to easily disable it permanently so that it no longer loads or does anything.Â* It's still there taking up space and it may still get updated from the Playstore, but it won't run or show up as an installed app. Was that an android? What was the "way" to disable apps? Settings . . . APPS....choose the app and then disable For many of the installed apps on my phone, the phone just turns them back on. Email, Emergency Alerts, Gallery, Google play services, Help, My Verizon, Samsung Push services, Sim toolkit. It's an old Galaxy S5, so I don't expect automatic updates to ever be needed. Not a very useful suggestion. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leavinga big damp patch
On 12/7/2020 11:03 AM, Bob F wrote:
On 12/7/2020 11:02 AM, Bob F wrote: On 12/7/2020 9:20 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 12/7/2020 12:04 PM, Bob F wrote: On 12/7/2020 5:50 AM, trader_4 wrote: . I finally decided not to root my phone.Â* I was most interested in getting rid of the carrier bloatware on it, which you can only do via rooting.Â* But I found a way to easily disable it permanently so that it no longer loads or does anything.Â* It's still there taking up space and it may still get updated from the Playstore, but it won't run or show up as an installed app. Was that an android? What was the "way" to disable apps? Settings . . . APPS....choose the app and then disable For many of the installed apps on my phone, the phone just turns them back on. Email, Emergency Alerts, Gallery, Google play services, Help, My Verizon, Samsung Push services, Sim toolkit. It's an old Galaxy S5, so I don't expect automatic updates to ever be needed. Not a very useful suggestion. oops! This was intended as a response to Clare's response below. |
Water from my shower running down and around the fuse box leaving a big damp patch
On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 11:03:02 -0800, Bob F wrote:
On 12/7/2020 11:02 AM, Bob F wrote: On 12/7/2020 9:20 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 12/7/2020 12:04 PM, Bob F wrote: On 12/7/2020 5:50 AM, trader_4 wrote: . I finally decided not to root my phone.* I was most interested in getting rid of the carrier bloatware on it, which you can only do via rooting.* But I found a way to easily disable it permanently so that it no longer loads or does anything.* It's still there taking up space and it may still get updated from the Playstore, but it won't run or show up as an installed app. Was that an android? What was the "way" to disable apps? Settings . . . APPS....choose the app and then disable For many of the installed apps on my phone, the phone just turns them back on. Email, Emergency Alerts, Gallery, Google play services, Help, My Verizon, Samsung Push services, Sim toolkit. It's an old Galaxy S5, so I don't expect automatic updates to ever be needed. Not a very useful suggestion. Not a very good OS either |
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