I don't need a new car now but I will and I want to understand
terminology.

I want a car with soft ride so I will not feel the bumps.

One article refered to base, touring, performance and R/T (or Super
Sport?) suspension.

And I thought that was the key, but the topic went to body roll. I'm
happy if I don't lose control on turns, but that seems unrelated to not
feeling the bumps and that is my goal.

So if those 4 words are not measures of level of soft ride, what do I
look for?



If I end up with harder ride than I like, can it be softened by
replacing the shocks? Do I have to do springs too? (I know about tire
sidewall height, and if the car has 17" wheels, I'll be unlikely to buy
it unless there is nothing else.)


For a short while I had a 2004 Sebring Convertible, and I felt every
bump, every speed bump and hump, like never before. I thought it would
ride like a Lebaron, because it's also "compact" and a convertible, but
it was terrible instead. Fortunately for me, the engine blew after 1
month, and I had to buy another car. Now my world is back to normal.
(I never drove a convertible to be sporty. I like the view and the
breeze on my face.)

micky explained :
I don't need a new car now but I will and I want to understand
terminology.

I want a car with soft ride so I will not feel the bumps.

One article refered to base, touring, performance and R/T (or Super
Sport?) suspension.

And I thought that was the key, but the topic went to body roll. I'm
happy if I don't lose control on turns, but that seems unrelated to not
feeling the bumps and that is my goal.

Is it the bumps as transmitted to you by the seat which concerns you,
or is it the vibrations through the steering wheel?

It will always be a trade-off between comfort and handling no matter
what you do.

So if those 4 words are not measures of level of soft ride, what do I
look for?

This might help:

https://www.generalspringkc.com/smoo...ide_s/3147.htm

On 11/27/20 8:02 AM, micky wrote:
I don't need a new car now but I will and I want to understand
terminology.

I want a car with soft ride so I will not feel the bumps.

One article refered to base, touring, performance and R/T (or Super
Sport?) suspension.

And I thought that was the key, but the topic went to body roll. I'm
happy if I don't lose control on turns, but that seems unrelated to not
feeling the bumps and that is my goal.

So if those 4 words are not measures of level of soft ride, what do I
look for?



If I end up with harder ride than I like, can it be softened by
replacing the shocks? Do I have to do springs too? (I know about tire
sidewall height, and if the car has 17" wheels, I'll be unlikely to buy
it unless there is nothing else.)


For a short while I had a 2004 Sebring Convertible, and I felt every
bump, every speed bump and hump, like never before. I thought it would
ride like a Lebaron, because it's also "compact" and a convertible, but
it was terrible instead. Fortunately for me, the engine blew after 1
month, and I had to buy another car. Now my world is back to normal.
(I never drove a convertible to be sporty. I like the view and the
breeze on my face.)

I've been using Autotrader in my search for a pickup. They have
a section for research. The most comfortable vehicles for under $30,000
https://www.autotrader.com/best-cars/most-comfortable-cars-under-30000
Consumer Reports is a good source of information. I might not
follow their
advice on a particular subject but they mention things I wouldn't have
thought
about. They give items a score. I think perfect would be 100. They
list several
things like reliability, ride, and noise in their vehicle ratings.
The Honda Ridgeline scored 80, the Jeep Gladiator 65, the Toyota 51
in their
ratings. I didn't realize Honda even made a pickup. The price range
for it is
about $34,000 to $43,000. They will refer one to Truecare. Truecar
wants a
contact number to give more detailed pricing.
A lot of the articles I've seen in other places about pickups
discuss off roading. Uh,huh.
I'd bet that most of the pickups seldom see gravel roads, much less dirt
roads.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 10:13:21 -0500, Jon Voight
wrote:

On 11/27/2020 9:02 AM, micky wrote:
I don't need a new car now but I will and I want to understand
terminology.

I want a car with soft ride so I will not feel the bumps.



You can't beat an '83 LeBaron Town & Country for style and comfort.


My '72 Fury III 2-door floated down the road. :-)
but they don't make 'em like that anymore.
John T.

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 27 Nov 2020 10:13:21 -0500, Jon Voight
wrote:

On 11/27/2020 9:02 AM, micky wrote:
I don't need a new car now but I will and I want to understand
terminology.

I want a car with soft ride so I will not feel the bumps.



You can't beat an '83 LeBaron Town & Country for style and comfort.


Yes, Jon, I know you liked that car. Cramer thought he was buying from
you but I think it was some other guy witht he same name.

On 11/27/2020 07:13 AM, Jon Voight wrote:
On 11/27/2020 9:02 AM, micky wrote:
I don't need a new car now but I will and I want to understand
terminology.

I want a car with soft ride so I will not feel the bumps.

You can't beat an '83 LeBaron Town & Country for style and comfort.

My 88 Eldorado had a nice unbumpy ride, but it tended to wallow in
mountain driving. I sent it to the wreckers because it tried to kill me
once too often.

Throttle problem, apparently unfixable due to parts no longer being
available even at local wrecking yards. Yes, I had witnesses.
Fortunately it had good brakes.

--
Cheers, Bev
"I prefer rogues to imbeciles because they sometimes
take a rest." -- Alexandre Dumas (fils)

On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 09:02:17 -0500, micky wrote:

For a short while I had a 2004 Sebring Convertible, and I felt every
bump, every speed bump and hump, like never before. I thought it would
ride like a Lebaron, because it's also "compact" and a convertible, but
it was terrible instead. Fortunately for me, the engine blew after 1
month, and I had to buy another car. Now my world is back to normal.
(I never drove a convertible to be sporty. I like the view and the
breeze on my face.)

Have you considered a motorcycle?

On 11/27/20 11:46 AM, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 09:02:17 -0500, micky wrote:

For a short while I had a 2004 Sebring Convertible, and I felt every
bump, every speed bump and hump, like never before. I thought it would
ride like a Lebaron, because it's also "compact" and a convertible, but
it was terrible instead. Fortunately for me, the engine blew after 1
month, and I had to buy another car. Now my world is back to normal.
(I never drove a convertible to be sporty. I like the view and the
breeze on my face.)

Have you considered a motorcycle?

A Honda Gold Wing trike?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Honda-Gold-Wing/274016449930?hash=item3fcca7358a:g:QvYAAOSwkBteal1 F

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 27 Nov 2020 09:24:02 -0800, The Real Bev
wrote:

On 11/27/2020 07:13 AM, Jon Voight wrote:
On 11/27/2020 9:02 AM, micky wrote:
I don't need a new car now but I will and I want to understand
terminology.

I want a car with soft ride so I will not feel the bumps.

You can't beat an '83 LeBaron Town & Country for style and comfort.

My 88 Eldorado had a nice unbumpy ride, but it tended to wallow in
mountain driving. I sent it to the wreckers because it tried to kill me
once too often.

Throttle problem, apparently unfixable due to parts no longer being
available even at local wrecking yards. Yes, I had witnesses.
Fortunately it had good brakes.

There was an Eldorado convertible for sale when I bought my Buick
Centurion, in 1980, but I thought it would make me look too fancy. It
needed repairs to maybe. I sort of wish I'd bought it.

Maybe it would have killed me.

On 11/27/2020 08:38 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 10:13:21 -0500, Jon Voight
wrote:

On 11/27/2020 9:02 AM, micky wrote:
I don't need a new car now but I will and I want to understand
terminology.

I want a car with soft ride so I will not feel the bumps.



You can't beat an '83 LeBaron Town & Country for style and comfort.


My '72 Fury III 2-door floated down the road. :-)
but they don't make 'em like that anymore.
John T.


A friend had a '59 Buick 225. Now there was a soft ride. It was like
driving a boat. Tromp down on the gas and there would be a mighty roar
from the engine room as the 401 built up steam. Sooner or later it would
get underway. Come to a corner and she would heel over.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 12:07:15 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

A friend had a '59 Buick 225. Now there was

Oh, no! Not yet another senile bull**** story! tsk

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 27 Nov 2020 09:29:10 -0500, FromTheRafters
wrote:

micky explained :
I don't need a new car now but I will and I want to understand
terminology.

I want a car with soft ride so I will not feel the bumps.

One article refered to base, touring, performance and R/T (or Super
Sport?) suspension.

And I thought that was the key, but the topic went to body roll. I'm
happy if I don't lose control on turns, but that seems unrelated to not
feeling the bumps and that is my goal.

Is it the bumps as transmitted to you by the seat which concerns you,
or is it the vibrations through the steering wheel?

The seat. I've never noticed the steering wheel.

It will always be a trade-off between comfort and handling no matter
what you do.

That's okay. I'll give up on handling if I can have comfort.

So if those 4 words are not measures of level of soft ride, what do I
look for?

This might help:

https://www.generalspringkc.com/smoo...ide_s/3147.htm

I'm looking at it now.

On 11/27/2020 10:11 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 27 Nov 2020 09:24:02 -0800, The Real Bev
wrote:

On 11/27/2020 07:13 AM, Jon Voight wrote:
On 11/27/2020 9:02 AM, micky wrote:
I don't need a new car now but I will and I want to understand
terminology.

I want a car with soft ride so I will not feel the bumps.

You can't beat an '83 LeBaron Town & Country for style and comfort.

My 88 Eldorado had a nice unbumpy ride, but it tended to wallow in
mountain driving. I sent it to the wreckers because it tried to kill me
once too often.

Throttle problem, apparently unfixable due to parts no longer being
available even at local wrecking yards. Yes, I had witnesses.
Fortunately it had good brakes.

There was an Eldorado convertible for sale when I bought my Buick
Centurion, in 1980, but I thought it would make me look too fancy. It
needed repairs to maybe. I sort of wish I'd bought it.

Maybe it would have killed me.

Maybe it was a REAL throttle in 1980... I'll never buy another GM
product or even accept one as a gift. I wish my mom had asked me before
buying it, I would have told her to get a Lexus or something.

--
Cheers, Bev
"The last thing you want is for somebody to commit suicide
before executing them."
-Gary Deland, former Utah director for corrections

On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 09:02:17 -0500, micky
wrote:

I don't need a new car now but I will and I want to understand
terminology.

I want a car with soft ride so I will not feel the bumps.

One article refered to base, touring, performance and R/T (or Super
Sport?) suspension.

And I thought that was the key, but the topic went to body roll. I'm
happy if I don't lose control on turns, but that seems unrelated to not
feeling the bumps and that is my goal.

So if those 4 words are not measures of level of soft ride, what do I
look for?


Base or touring , most likely - with tires with high aspect ratio.
You don't get a "soft ride" from a barrel wrapped with friction tape -
- - Performance, R/T or sport generally mean shake your fillings out

If I end up with harder ride than I like, can it be softened by
replacing the shocks? Do I have to do springs too? (I know about tire
sidewall height, and if the car has 17" wheels, I'll be unlikely to buy
it unless there is nothing else.)


For a short while I had a 2004 Sebring Convertible, and I felt every
bump, every speed bump and hump, like never before. I thought it would
ride like a Lebaron, because it's also "compact" and a convertible, but
it was terrible instead. Fortunately for me, the engine blew after 1
month, and I had to buy another car. Now my world is back to normal.
(I never drove a convertible to be sporty. I like the view and the
breeze on my face.)

On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 10:13:21 -0500, Jon Voight
wrote:

On 11/27/2020 9:02 AM, micky wrote:
I don't need a new car now but I will and I want to understand
terminology.

I want a car with soft ride so I will not feel the bumps.



You can't beat an '83 LeBaron Town & Country for style and comfort.
Actually you can. A 1988 New Yorker Landau Mark Cross. (I've owned
both)

Jon Voight wrote:
On 11/27/2020 9:02 AM, micky wrote:
I don't need a new car now but I will and I want to understand
terminology.

I want a car with soft ride so I will not feel the bumps.

You can't beat an '83 LeBaron Town & Country for style and comfort.

Those are incredibly mushy, but the Continental of a few years earlier is
even mushier. Huge pigs wallowing all over the road... you could
drive right over the curb and not know it because the suspension is
so soft. And you probably will since there's so much backlash in
the steering.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

On 29 Nov 2020 14:29:44 -0000, Scott Dorsey posted for all of us to digest...


Jon Voight wrote:
On 11/27/2020 9:02 AM, micky wrote:
I don't need a new car now but I will and I want to understand
terminology.

I want a car with soft ride so I will not feel the bumps.

You can't beat an '83 LeBaron Town & Country for style and comfort.

Those are incredibly mushy, but the Continental of a few years earlier is
even mushier. Huge pigs wallowing all over the road... you could
drive right over the curb and not know it because the suspension is
so soft. And you probably will since there's so much backlash in
the steering.
--scott

To OP

Touring is the term. Like taking a Sunday drive with all the people cussing
behind you.

--
Tekkie