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Fluorescent tube (replacement)
I am trying t replace a tube in a kitchen fixture. The old one was difficult
to remove. The new one will not totally seat in the fixture. Can some kind of lubricant (WD40) be put on the pins to facilitate the installation? -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...t-1225749-.htm |
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Lindgs m writes:
I am trying t replace a tube in a kitchen fixture. The old one was difficult to remove. The new one will not totally seat in the fixture. Can some kind of lubricant (WD40) be put on the pins to facilitate the installation? I don't think so, but those posts that hold the lamp can be replaced. While you are at it, take the fixture down, replace the lamp holders, remove the ballast and put an LED tube in there. You'll be happy you did and odds are, you'll never replace that tube again. -- Dan Espen |
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I had no idea that LED replacements for florescent tubes lasted forever!
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On 8/1/20 9:44 AM, Lindgs wrote:
I am trying t replace a tube in a kitchen fixture.Â* The oldÂ* one was difficult to remove.Â* The new one will not totally seat in the fixture.Â* Can some kind of lubricant (WD40) be put on the pins to facilitate the installation? I think what you're after is called conductive grease. Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/NO-OX-ID-Tube-Special-Grease-Compound/dp/B00HSW341A/ref=sr_1_40?crid=3C8MFDS7V4KG9&dchild=1&keywords=c onductive+grease&qid=1596296036&sprefix=conductive +gr%2Caps%2C193&sr=8-40 or https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3duq8vy The makers of that stuff are pretty proud of it price wise. You don't want dielectric grease which is non conductive. |
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And LEDs dont contain all that mercury, which is a problem when throwing out. They still have arsenic and lead, though.
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On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 11:41:24 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 8/1/20 9:44 AM, Lindgs wrote: I am trying t replace a tube in a kitchen fixture.Â* The oldÂ* one was difficult to remove.Â* The new one will not totally seat in the fixture.Â* Can some kind of lubricant (WD40) be put on the pins to facilitate the installation? I think what you're after is called conductive grease. Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/NO-OX-ID-Tube-Special-Grease-Compound/dp/B00HSW341A/ref=sr_1_40?crid=3C8MFDS7V4KG9&dchild=1&keywords=c onductive+grease&qid=1596296036&sprefix=conductive +gr%2Caps%2C193&sr=8-40 or https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3duq8vy The makers of that stuff are pretty proud of it price wise. You don't want dielectric grease which is non conductive. ACtually, I think dielectric grease is what you would want to use. It's what's used in auto lamp holders for example. Conductive grease would create a current path. Dielectric grease works by keeping it lubricated so it won't corrode, but it gets easily pressed out of the way of the contact point so a good contact is made. Bit I've yet to see a tube fixture that needed it. I'd suspect if you put the bulb in correctly and twist, it will seat. Sometimes they can be tricky, not sure grease will help. And agree that if it were my fixture, I'd be looking at a new LED fixture as the first choice, or maybe a retrofit if it can't be changed easily. They don't cost much, sure look and work a lot better and use less electricity. |
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On 8/1/20 3:26 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 11:41:24 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 8/1/20 9:44 AM, Lindgs wrote: I am trying t replace a tube in a kitchen fixture.Â* The oldÂ* one was difficult to remove.Â* The new one will not totally seat in the fixture.Â* Can some kind of lubricant (WD40) be put on the pins to facilitate the installation? I think what you're after is called conductive grease. Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/NO-OX-ID-Tube-Special-Grease-Compound/dp/B00HSW341A/ref=sr_1_40?crid=3C8MFDS7V4KG9&dchild=1&keywords=c onductive+grease&qid=1596296036&sprefix=conductive +gr%2Caps%2C193&sr=8-40 or https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3duq8vy The makers of that stuff are pretty proud of it price wise. You don't want dielectric grease which is non conductive. ACtually, I think dielectric grease is what you would want to use. It's what's used in auto lamp holders for example. Conductive grease would create a current path. Dielectric grease works by keeping it lubricated so it won't corrode, but it gets easily pressed out of the way of the contact point so a good contact is made. Bit I've yet to see a tube fixture that needed it. I'd suspect if you put the bulb in correctly and twist, it will seat. Sometimes they can be tricky, not sure grease will help. And agree that if it were my fixture, I'd be looking at a new LED fixture as the first choice, or maybe a retrofit if it can't be changed easily. They don't cost much, sure look and work a lot better and use less electricity. Temptation would've gotten the best of me if I was doing it for myself. I would have tried the WD-40 or powdered graphite if I really thought it was needed. Then I would have waited a couple hours to let things settle out. |
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On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 13:26:51 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 11:41:24 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 8/1/20 9:44 AM, Lindgs wrote: I am trying t replace a tube in a kitchen fixture.Â* The oldÂ* one was difficult to remove.Â* The new one will not totally seat in the fixture.Â* Can some kind of lubricant (WD40) be put on the pins to facilitate the installation? I think what you're after is called conductive grease. Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/NO-OX-ID-Tube-Special-Grease-Compound/dp/B00HSW341A/ref=sr_1_40?crid=3C8MFDS7V4KG9&dchild=1&keywords=c onductive+grease&qid=1596296036&sprefix=conductive +gr%2Caps%2C193&sr=8-40 or https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3duq8vy The makers of that stuff are pretty proud of it price wise. You don't want dielectric grease which is non conductive. ACtually, I think dielectric grease is what you would want to use. It's what's used in auto lamp holders for example. Conductive grease would create a current path. Dielectric grease works by keeping it lubricated so it won't corrode, but it gets easily pressed out of the way of the contact point so a good contact is made. Bit I've yet to see a tube fixture that needed it. I'd suspect if you put the bulb in correctly and twist, it will seat. Sometimes they can be tricky, not sure grease will help. And agree that if it were my fixture, I'd be looking at a new LED fixture as the first choice, or maybe a retrofit if it can't be changed easily. They don't cost much, sure look and work a lot better and use less electricity. I lot depends on the fixture itself. If it was cheap to begin with, buying a new LED ready to go is probably right but for the same amount of work you can just hot wire the tombstones, remove the ballast and use the direct wire LED. That is certainly a better idea if this is some kind of designer fixture you really like. They are supposed to be good for 10,000 hours or more so that is. quite a number of years if you are only using it a few hours a day. The old school F-40s in our walk in closet are 20+ years old. I have never replaced them but they only get used minutes a day. Also pay attention to the color. LEDs come anything from a warm 2700k to an arc light "stalag 17" 6000k maybe even "hotter". |
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Fluorescent tube (replacement)
On 8/1/2020 7:44 AM, Lindgs wrote:
I am trying t replace a tube in a kitchen fixture.Â* The oldÂ* one was difficult to remove.Â* The new one will not totally seat in the fixture.Â* Can some kind of lubricant (WD40) be put on the pins to facilitate the installation? Thank you for the question Lindgs. Indeed you may use the proper lube to make this tube "slid right in." I've found K-Y Jelly is good for just such a jam, and the nice thing is any leftovers can be used on your anus. Hope this helps. 💋 |
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lowbrowwoman, Birdbrain's eternal senile whore!
On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 19:47:09 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again: I like the Stalag 17 setting. The cataracts introduce enough yellow into my life without the warm candlelight effect. Obviously not enough to stop you from spreading your endless bull**** on Usenet, lowbrowwoman! |
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Fluorescent tube (replacement)
On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 10:44:05 AM UTC-4, Lindgs wrote:
I am trying t replace a tube in a kitchen fixture. The old one was difficult to remove. The new one will not totally seat in the fixture. Can some kind of lubricant (WD40) be put on the pins to facilitate the installation? -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...t-1225749-.htm I do not believe lubrication will help. If you get tube lined up exactly and push straight in then turn, it should fit. If it doesn't something is worn or broken, and lubrication will not help. But getting them really straight without twisting or angling is usually the problem. Also check the pins, you could have a bad tube. I've never seen one but it seems logical it could happen. I converted to LED tubes - disconnected the ballast and discarded. It turned out my tombstones were nonshunted so I didn't even need to replace but you do need to check that. I'm happy with them so far. And I put the LED shoplights in my shed, and now in the winter they come on right away, unlike the fluorescent that can't handle the cold. |
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Fluorescent tube (replacement)
On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 8:31:12 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 13:26:51 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 11:41:24 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 8/1/20 9:44 AM, Lindgs wrote: I am trying t replace a tube in a kitchen fixture.Â* The oldÂ* one was difficult to remove.Â* The new one will not totally seat in the fixture.Â* Can some kind of lubricant (WD40) be put on the pins to facilitate the installation? I think what you're after is called conductive grease. Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/NO-OX-ID-Tube-Special-Grease-Compound/dp/B00HSW341A/ref=sr_1_40?crid=3C8MFDS7V4KG9&dchild=1&keywords=c onductive+grease&qid=1596296036&sprefix=conductive +gr%2Caps%2C193&sr=8-40 or https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3duq8vy The makers of that stuff are pretty proud of it price wise. You don't want dielectric grease which is non conductive. ACtually, I think dielectric grease is what you would want to use. It's what's used in auto lamp holders for example. Conductive grease would create a current path. Dielectric grease works by keeping it lubricated so it won't corrode, but it gets easily pressed out of the way of the contact point so a good contact is made. Bit I've yet to see a tube fixture that needed it. I'd suspect if you put the bulb in correctly and twist, it will seat. Sometimes they can be tricky, not sure grease will help. And agree that if it were my fixture, I'd be looking at a new LED fixture as the first choice, or maybe a retrofit if it can't be changed easily. They don't cost much, sure look and work a lot better and use less electricity. I lot depends on the fixture itself. If it was cheap to begin with, buying a new LED ready to go is probably right but for the same amount of work you can just hot wire the tombstones, remove the ballast and use the direct wire LED. That is certainly a better idea if this is some kind of designer fixture you really like. Designer fixture and fluorescent tubes does not compute. |
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On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 07:51:29 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 8:31:12 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 13:26:51 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 11:41:24 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 8/1/20 9:44 AM, Lindgs wrote: I am trying t replace a tube in a kitchen fixture.Â* The oldÂ* one was difficult to remove.Â* The new one will not totally seat in the fixture.Â* Can some kind of lubricant (WD40) be put on the pins to facilitate the installation? I think what you're after is called conductive grease. Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/NO-OX-ID-Tube-Special-Grease-Compound/dp/B00HSW341A/ref=sr_1_40?crid=3C8MFDS7V4KG9&dchild=1&keywords=c onductive+grease&qid=1596296036&sprefix=conductive +gr%2Caps%2C193&sr=8-40 or https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3duq8vy The makers of that stuff are pretty proud of it price wise. You don't want dielectric grease which is non conductive. ACtually, I think dielectric grease is what you would want to use. It's what's used in auto lamp holders for example. Conductive grease would create a current path. Dielectric grease works by keeping it lubricated so it won't corrode, but it gets easily pressed out of the way of the contact point so a good contact is made. Bit I've yet to see a tube fixture that needed it. I'd suspect if you put the bulb in correctly and twist, it will seat. Sometimes they can be tricky, not sure grease will help. And agree that if it were my fixture, I'd be looking at a new LED fixture as the first choice, or maybe a retrofit if it can't be changed easily. They don't cost much, sure look and work a lot better and use less electricity. I lot depends on the fixture itself. If it was cheap to begin with, buying a new LED ready to go is probably right but for the same amount of work you can just hot wire the tombstones, remove the ballast and use the direct wire LED. That is certainly a better idea if this is some kind of designer fixture you really like. Designer fixture and fluorescent tubes does not compute. You don't know my wife. I think she spent $100 on the one in our closet in the late 90s. It may not have actually cost her that much but that was the MSRP. She worked for in interior design place at the time. I wasn't involved. I just put it up. It is an industrial quality ballast and good tombstones. Not the junk you got in $20-30 "shop lights". |
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