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I want to connect liquid tight tubing to PVC conduit. Searching online I see a lot of Poly tubing connectors w/compression on one end and with a threaded end for a box, but I want to go to a straight piece of conduit.
So what I want is a Poly to PVC conduit coupler. Don't know if I am looking in the right place or not. Searched the web, big Orange and big Green, but no success. Any help is appreciated. Thanks |
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On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:15:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
I want to connect liquid tight tubing to PVC conduit. Searching online I see a lot of Poly tubing connectors w/compression on one end and with a threaded end for a box, but I want to go to a straight piece of conduit. So what I want is a Poly to PVC conduit coupler. Don't know if I am looking in the right place or not. Searched the web, big Orange and big Green, but no success. Any help is appreciated. Thanks Looking at this video: https://youtu.be/1x4i0LFU4_A?t=340 at 5 min & 40 secs the presenter picks one up and I had to turn the volume up really loud to try and figure out what he was saying. Sounds like 'Carflex' connector. After watching the video a couple of times I believe this is actually 2 pieces. Compression to male thread and female thread to PVC conduit ? Did I get it right ? |
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:14:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:15:52 PM UTC-5, wrote: I want to connect liquid tight tubing to PVC conduit. Searching online I see a lot of Poly tubing connectors w/compression on one end and with a threaded end for a box, but I want to go to a straight piece of conduit. So what I want is a Poly to PVC conduit coupler. Don't know if I am looking in the right place or not. Searched the web, big Orange and big Green, but no success. Any help is appreciated. Thanks Looking at this video: https://youtu.be/1x4i0LFU4_A?t=340 at 5 min & 40 secs the presenter picks one up and I had to turn the volume up really loud to try and figure out what he was saying. Sounds like 'Carflex' connector. After watching the video a couple of times I believe this is actually 2 pieces. Compression to male thread and female thread to PVC conduit ? Did I get it right ? Legally you need a female adapter on the RNC and a male Carflex adapter. I won't tell you that a regular RNC coupling glued onto Carflex will last forever but if you use primer ... Well you know. It is a listing issue. Carlon does list using glued fittings on Smurf Tube (ENT) but not Carflex. OTOH plumbers do it all the time with Spaflex (white Carflex.) |
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On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:15:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
I want to connect liquid tight tubing to PVC conduit. Searching online I see a lot of Poly tubing connectors w/compression on one end and with a threaded end for a box, but I want to go to a straight piece of conduit. So what I want is a Poly to PVC conduit coupler. Don't know if I am looking in the right place or not. Searched the web, big Orange and big Green, but no success. Any help is appreciated. Thanks So is the Carfex in black a different product than the gray liquidtight (poly) that you see in HD ? This stuff also seems kind of expensive per foot ? Should I try to make the whole run w/straight and preformed elbows ? Is any of it suitable for direct burial ? Thanks |
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On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:15:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
I want to connect liquid tight tubing to PVC conduit. Searching online I see a lot of Poly tubing connectors w/compression on one end and with a threaded end for a box, but I want to go to a straight piece of conduit. So what I want is a Poly to PVC conduit coupler. Don't know if I am looking in the right place or not. Searched the web, big Orange and big Green, but no success. Any help is appreciated. Thanks HD site shows 1-1/4 Liquid-Tight as direct burial ? Should I trust the specs from the site ? |
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On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:15:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
I want to connect liquid tight tubing to PVC conduit. Searching online I see a lot of Poly tubing connectors w/compression on one end and with a threaded end for a box, but I want to go to a straight piece of conduit. So what I want is a Poly to PVC conduit coupler. Don't know if I am looking in the right place or not. Searched the web, big Orange and big Green, but no success. Any help is appreciated. Thanks I saw several U-Tubes on bending PVC conduit. Has anyone ever tried or had any luck w/bending ? That would be way cheaper ! |
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Sure, I just heated it above a gas stove burner.
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 20:52:42 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote: On 7/28/20 8:32 PM, wrote: On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:15:52 PM UTC-5, wrote: I want to connect liquid tight tubing to PVC conduit. Searching online I see a lot of Poly tubing connectors w/compression on one end and with a threaded end for a box, but I want to go to a straight piece of conduit. So what I want is a Poly to PVC conduit coupler. Don't know if I am looking in the right place or not. Searched the web, big Orange and big Green, but no success. Any help is appreciated. Thanks HD site shows 1-1/4 Liquid-Tight as direct burial ? Should I trust the specs from the site ? Liquid Tite to me is the metallic stuff with some sort of plastic for a covering. It's listed for direct burial. This stuff: https://www.mcmaster.com/liquid-tight-conduit/liquid-tight-flexible-metal-conduit/ Isn't it expensive compared to the PVC versions? Two different things with similar uses. You really see more Carflex (nonmetalic) in general use. |
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On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:15:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
I want to connect liquid tight tubing to PVC conduit. Searching online I see a lot of Poly tubing connectors w/compression on one end and with a threaded end for a box, but I want to go to a straight piece of conduit. So what I want is a Poly to PVC conduit coupler. Don't know if I am looking in the right place or not. Searched the web, big Orange and big Green, but no success. Any help is appreciated. Thanks I can buy fewer pieces and have fewer breaks underground ? Sounds like a better plan ? |
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On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:15:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
I want to connect liquid tight tubing to PVC conduit. Searching online I see a lot of Poly tubing connectors w/compression on one end and with a threaded end for a box, but I want to go to a straight piece of conduit. So what I want is a Poly to PVC conduit coupler. Don't know if I am looking in the right place or not. Searched the web, big Orange and big Green, but no success. Any help is appreciated. Thanks I don't see a heat-gun on Harbor site for $10, I do see 1 for $15 by Warrior ? Menards has a gun for $20 by WEN that comes with a case. Menards and HD also carry 3/4" AFC metallic cable w/O.D. of 1" that could be shoved down the middle to help the 1-1/4" PVC hold its shape during bending ? In one of the U-Tube videos on PVC-bending the author stated that one of the best features to look for in heat-gun is the ability to stand-up on its back, leaving you both hands to hold your work. (Hard to tell if the WEN or Warrior will do that from the pics on-line) Project: 40 years ago, when our Antenna tower was erected, the contractor took a short-cut, at about 9' AGL he strung the wires straight across to the the house from the antenna tower. The antenna tower is about 10' feet from the house, and the sidewalk for the side entrance to the house (the one everyone uses) runs underneath it. I want to take the eyesore down and run the wires directly to the ground and bury them and run them to a discreet location for entrance to the house. So right now, 3 wires: 14-2 to power the dusk-to-dawn security light, Coax for the antenna, and multi-pair for the rotor. I can direct-bury the 14-2, but the other two I don't want to in case I need to replace them and/or add another. |
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On 7/30/20 12:11 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 20:26:06 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:15:52 PM UTC-5, wrote: I want to connect liquid tight tubing to PVC conduit. Searching online I see a lot of Poly tubing connectors w/compression on one end and with a threaded end for a box, but I want to go to a straight piece of conduit. So what I want is a Poly to PVC conduit coupler. Don't know if I am looking in the right place or not. Searched the web, big Orange and big Green, but no success. Any help is appreciated. Thanks I don't see a heat-gun on Harbor site for $10, I do see 1 for $15 by Warrior ? Menards has a gun for $20 by WEN that comes with a case. Menards and HD also carry 3/4" AFC metallic cable w/O.D. of 1" that could be shoved down the middle to help the 1-1/4" PVC hold its shape during bending ? In one of the U-Tube videos on PVC-bending the author stated that one of the best features to look for in heat-gun is the ability to stand-up on its back, leaving you both hands to hold your work. (Hard to tell if the WEN or Warrior will do that from the pics on-line) Project: 40 years ago, when our Antenna tower was erected, the contractor took a short-cut, at about 9' AGL he strung the wires straight across to the the house from the antenna tower. The antenna tower is about 10' feet from the house, and the sidewalk for the side entrance to the house (the one everyone uses) runs underneath it. I want to take the eyesore down and run the wires directly to the ground and bury them and run them to a discreet location for entrance to the house. So right now, 3 wires: 14-2 to power the dusk-to-dawn security light, Coax for the antenna, and multi-pair for the rotor. I can direct-bury the 14-2, but the other two I don't want to in case I need to replace them and/or add another. They usually have a coupon that gets you that gun for around $10 in a "everything has to go" sale. If you are running a conduit for low voltage, spend the extra money and put in at least 3/4" and 1" is better if you are pulling the connectors too. Normal low voltage wire is a regular PVC jacket that doesn't have the slick cover like THHN and it doesn't pull all that easy. Use plenty of lube. (Yellow 77 or something similar, not dish soap or WD40) Aren't there requirements for keeping the low voltage separate from the wiring to power the lights? It sounds like that's what he intends to do. |
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On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:15:52 PM UTC-5, wrote: I want to connect liquid tight tubing to PVC conduit. Searching online I see a lot of Poly tubing connectors w/compression on one end and with a threaded end for a box, but I want to go to a straight piece of conduit. So what I want is a Poly to PVC conduit coupler. Don't know if I am looking in the right place or not. Searched the web, big Orange and big Green, but no success. Any help is appreciated. Thanks I don't see a heat-gun on Harbor site for $10, I do see 1 for $15 by Warrior ? Menards has a gun for $20 by WEN that comes with a case. Menards and HD also carry 3/4" AFC metallic cable w/O.D. of 1" that could be shoved down the middle to help the 1-1/4" PVC hold its shape during bending ? In one of the U-Tube videos on PVC-bending the author stated that one of the best features to look for in heat-gun is the ability to stand-up on its back, leaving you both hands to hold your work. (Hard to tell if the WEN or Warrior will do that from the pics on-line) Project: 40 years ago, when our Antenna tower was erected, the contractor took a short-cut, at about 9' AGL he strung the wires straight across to the the house from the antenna tower. The antenna tower is about 10' feet from the house, and the sidewalk for the side entrance to the house (the one everyone uses) runs underneath it. I want to take the eyesore down and run the wires directly to the ground and bury them and run them to a discreet location for entrance to the house.. So right now, 3 wires: 14-2 to power the dusk-to-dawn security light, Coax for the antenna, and multi-pair for the rotor. I can direct-bury the 14-2, but the other two I don't want to in case I need to replace them and/or add another. How many custom bends do you need to make for this small project? If it's just a couple, like I said, I've heated PVC over a gas stove burner. Gas grill? Or you could use a propane torch. Experiment on a scrap piece. |
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On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:15:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
I want to connect liquid tight tubing to PVC conduit. Searching online I see a lot of Poly tubing connectors w/compression on one end and with a threaded end for a box, but I want to go to a straight piece of conduit. So what I want is a Poly to PVC conduit coupler. Don't know if I am looking in the right place or not. Searched the web, big Orange and big Green, but no success. Any help is appreciated. Thanks Custom Bends: about 8 (and that's before I start digging !) |
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On 7/30/2020 9:28 AM, dpb wrote:
On 7/30/2020 8:55 AM, wrote: .... Custom Bends: about 8Â* (and that's before I start digging !) You'll never get it pulled, then, unless you can run sections at a time. Â*Remember the Code 360 rule. That applies to the power run. While it's not Code, it is very common for industrial specs (like phone and optical) to enforce a 180 rule as even more restrictive given the less forgiving nature of the conductors and that the cable is as somebody else already pointed out, harder to pull. GEEZER STORY ALERT/ We had to pull coax for the coal analyzer detector head -- a NaI(Tl) scintillation counter. In the days before vendors developed integral electronics it required both a HV (1200 VDC) bias supply and a second signal cable for the preamp input to the multichannel analyzer. We would have customer pull at least two pair if not three for at least one spare. At one site, the analyzer on the coal belt had to be across large drive area back to the office where the monitor equipment rack was located. It was roughly 100 yds across and had to be buried deep enough large equipment typical of mine wouldn't crush. They ran 3" plastic conduit for the pull. But, they weren't able to pull it by hand -- being miners, they did the obvious--tied it to the nearest frontend loader and had no problem at all in pulling it. We weren't on site for the prep work; when went for final install of the sources and startup/calibration, all seemed fine. Left it operational and went home (mine in middle E-KY, office in E TN about 3 hours drive thru the mountains). Lasted until first rain and lost HV. Had them try the spare -- it worked and were back on line. That lasted about a week until next rainy spell. They had only pulled two, so that was the end of it until figure out what happened. Service call proved was dead short on both HV cables and one of the signal cables and the second signal cable was degraded. They were unable to pull the existing cables back out; dug up the near end to the shack down to the elbow (about 3 ft). They had pulled so hard/fast with the endloader had melted thru the conduit and welded the cable in place...had to re-run the whole installation...this time made sure they did it so the cable could be pulled... The new cables lasted the 7-8 more years I was still in TN...it's now been another 20 almost since...now idea if the mine is still operational, even. -- |
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On 7/30/2020 3:39 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 7/30/20 12:11 AM, wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 20:26:06 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:15:52 PM UTC-5, wrote: I want to connect liquid tight tubing to PVC conduit.Â* Searching online I see a lot of Poly tubing connectors w/compression on one end and with a threaded end for a box, but I want to go to a straight piece of conduit. So what I want is a Poly to PVC conduit coupler. Don't know if I am looking in the right place or not. Searched the web, big Orange and big Green, but no success. Any help is appreciated. Thanks I don't see a heat-gun on Harbor site for $10, I do see 1 for $15 by Warrior ? Menards has a gun for $20 by WEN that comes with a case. Menards and HD also carry 3/4" AFC metallic cable w/O.D. of 1" that could be shoved down the middle to help the 1-1/4" PVC hold its shape during bending ? In one of the U-Tube videos on PVC-bending the author stated that one of the best features to look for in heat-gun is the ability to stand-up on its back, leaving you both hands to hold your work. (Hard to tell if the WEN or Warrior will do that from the pics on-line) Project: 40 years ago, when our Antenna tower was erected, the contractor took a short-cut, at about 9' AGL he strung the wires straight across to the the house from the antenna tower. The antenna tower is about 10' feet from the house, and the sidewalk for the side entrance to the house (the one everyone uses) runs underneath it. I want to take the eyesore down and run the wires directly to the ground and bury them and run them to a discreet location for entrance to the house. So right now, 3 wires:Â* 14-2 to power the dusk-to-dawn security light, Coax for the antenna, and multi-pair for the rotor.Â* I can direct-bury the 14-2, but the other two I don't want to in case I need to replace them and/or add another. They usually have a coupon that gets you that gun for around $10 in a "everything has to go" sale. If you are running a conduit for low voltage, spend the extra money and put in at least 3/4" and 1" is better if you are pulling the connectors too. Normal low voltage wire is a regular PVC jacket that doesn't have the slick cover like THHN and it doesn't pull all that easy. Use plenty of lube. (Yellow 77 or something similar, not dish soap or WD40) Â*Â*Â*Â* Aren't there requirements for keeping the low voltage separate from the wiring to power the lights?Â*Â*Â* It sounds like that's what he intends to do. He said he was going to bury the power and put the signal wires in conduit. |
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On 7/30/2020 5:24 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 11:26:11 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:15:52 PM UTC-5, wrote: I want to connect liquid tight tubing to PVC conduit. Searching online I see a lot of Poly tubing connectors w/compression on one end and with a threaded end for a box, but I want to go to a straight piece of conduit. So what I want is a Poly to PVC conduit coupler. Don't know if I am looking in the right place or not. Searched the web, big Orange and big Green, but no success. Any help is appreciated. Thanks I don't see a heat-gun on Harbor site for $10, I do see 1 for $15 by Warrior ? Menards has a gun for $20 by WEN that comes with a case. Menards and HD also carry 3/4" AFC metallic cable w/O.D. of 1" that could be shoved down the middle to help the 1-1/4" PVC hold its shape during bending ? In one of the U-Tube videos on PVC-bending the author stated that one of the best features to look for in heat-gun is the ability to stand-up on its back, leaving you both hands to hold your work. (Hard to tell if the WEN or Warrior will do that from the pics on-line) Project: 40 years ago, when our Antenna tower was erected, the contractor took a short-cut, at about 9' AGL he strung the wires straight across to the the house from the antenna tower. The antenna tower is about 10' feet from the house, and the sidewalk for the side entrance to the house (the one everyone uses) runs underneath it. I want to take the eyesore down and run the wires directly to the ground and bury them and run them to a discreet location for entrance to the house. So right now, 3 wires: 14-2 to power the dusk-to-dawn security light, Coax for the antenna, and multi-pair for the rotor. I can direct-bury the 14-2, but the other two I don't want to in case I need to replace them and/or add another. How many custom bends do you need to make for this small project? If it's just a couple, like I said, I've heated PVC over a gas stove burner. Gas grill? Or you could use a propane torch. Experiment on a scrap piece. Even a hot hair dryer might do it. |
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On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 6:39:31 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 7/30/20 12:11 AM, wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 20:26:06 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:15:52 PM UTC-5, wrote: I want to connect liquid tight tubing to PVC conduit. Searching online I see a lot of Poly tubing connectors w/compression on one end and with a threaded end for a box, but I want to go to a straight piece of conduit. So what I want is a Poly to PVC conduit coupler. Don't know if I am looking in the right place or not. Searched the web, big Orange and big Green, but no success. Any help is appreciated. Thanks I don't see a heat-gun on Harbor site for $10, I do see 1 for $15 by Warrior ? Menards has a gun for $20 by WEN that comes with a case. Menards and HD also carry 3/4" AFC metallic cable w/O.D. of 1" that could be shoved down the middle to help the 1-1/4" PVC hold its shape during bending ? In one of the U-Tube videos on PVC-bending the author stated that one of the best features to look for in heat-gun is the ability to stand-up on its back, leaving you both hands to hold your work. (Hard to tell if the WEN or Warrior will do that from the pics on-line) Project: 40 years ago, when our Antenna tower was erected, the contractor took a short-cut, at about 9' AGL he strung the wires straight across to the the house from the antenna tower. The antenna tower is about 10' feet from the house, and the sidewalk for the side entrance to the house (the one everyone uses) runs underneath it. I want to take the eyesore down and run the wires directly to the ground and bury them and run them to a discreet location for entrance to the house. So right now, 3 wires: 14-2 to power the dusk-to-dawn security light, Coax for the antenna, and multi-pair for the rotor. I can direct-bury the 14-2, but the other two I don't want to in case I need to replace them and/or add another. They usually have a coupon that gets you that gun for around $10 in a "everything has to go" sale. If you are running a conduit for low voltage, spend the extra money and put in at least 3/4" and 1" is better if you are pulling the connectors too. Normal low voltage wire is a regular PVC jacket that doesn't have the slick cover like THHN and it doesn't pull all that easy. Use plenty of lube. (Yellow 77 or something similar, not dish soap or WD40) Aren't there requirements for keeping the low voltage separate from the wiring to power the lights? If your areas building codes are that similar to the NEC, yes. Stuff like 120v low voltage phase A is black, B is red and the 3rd phase is blue. 277v Lighting voltage is phase A Brown, B orange and C yellow. Fingernail polish or tape of those colors is allowed when the wire isnt showing. |
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