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Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords?
Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 |
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On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote:
Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender |
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On 7/15/20 4:28 PM, AK wrote:
Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Use one of these instead. It has a screw to attach it to existing outlet in place of original cover plate plus the 3 lower outlets will easily accommodate wall warts https://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-6-Out...0759/203724441 |
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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 15 Jul 2020 16:40:32 -0400, Ed Pawlowski
wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it How do you look at pictures past the first one? in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender |
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:12:51 -0400, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 15 Jul 2020 16:40:32 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it How do you look at pictures past the first one? Scroll down? in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender |
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AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 AK- I doubt it. There are 6-outlet versions that use a center screw to hold them in place of the original cover. Do a search for "six outlet" and you should find them. Fred |
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On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy |
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On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:46:21 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On 7/15/20 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Use one of these instead. It has a screw to attach it to existing outlet in place of original cover plate plus the 3 lower outlets will easily accommodate wall warts https://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-6-Out...0759/203724441 Thanks. I like that it is not crowded so I do not have to trim those "nubs" off the plugs. Andy |
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 13:28:54 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote:
Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 No. The 6-outlet versions have a center screw which holds them fast. I'm using 3 or 4 of them and they work well. |
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On 7/15/2020 1:28 PM, AK wrote:
Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 A couple layers of double stick foam tape might do it. |
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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 15 Jul 2020 16:40:32 -0400, Ed Pawlowski
wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Oh, you mean the 3rd one down on this page. I thought you meant the imgur page above!! |
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On 7/15/2020 7:54 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 15 Jul 2020 16:40:32 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Oh, you mean the 3rd one down on this page. I thought you meant the imgur page above!! Yep, I was right. LMFAO! |
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 13:28:54 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 To match the rest of the job you might try baling wire or duct tape. |
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On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 8:56:15 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 13:28:54 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 To match the rest of the job you might try baling wire or duct tape. Me thinks you have an anger problem. Andy |
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy The first step is to wire the box properly. You can't connect a box with extention cord like that. Buy a proper "power bar" and plug it in where you have that cord plugged in (you didn't REALLY" hardwire" that circuit with fleible extention cord, did you???? something like https://www.uline.ca/Product/Detail/...E&gclsrc=aw.ds with 12 connections on a 6 foot cord or this one https://www.infinitecables.com/power...iABEgKsyvD_BwE with a 15 foot cord |
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On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 9:05:01 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy The first step is to wire the box properly. You can't connect a box with extention cord like that. Buy a proper "power bar" and plug it in where you have that cord plugged in (you didn't REALLY" hardwire" that circuit with fleible extention cord, did you???? something like https://www.uline.ca/Product/Detail/...E&gclsrc=aw.ds with 12 connections on a 6 foot cord or this one https://www.infinitecables.com/power...iABEgKsyvD_BwE with a 15 foot cord It is not wired with an extension cord, but with properly gauged wire. Andy |
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:09:03 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 9:05:01 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy The first step is to wire the box properly. You can't connect a box with extention cord like that. Buy a proper "power bar" and plug it in where you have that cord plugged in (you didn't REALLY" hardwire" that circuit with fleible extention cord, did you???? something like https://www.uline.ca/Product/Detail/...E&gclsrc=aw.ds with 12 connections on a 6 foot cord or this one https://www.infinitecables.com/power...iABEgKsyvD_BwE with a 15 foot cord It is not wired with an extension cord, but with properly gauged wire. Andy It is still a device box on a cord. That box is only listed if the "cable" (not a cord) is secured within 12" of the push in entry. Clare is right, you would have been better off with a power strip. Then you would not be having the tap problem in the first place. I usually try not to get involved in these things because the actual code would really **** you off. None of that stuff is legal (cube taps, power strips, 6 outlet extensions etc) if it is not "temporary" (in use 90 days). The language refers to substituting relocatable power taps for building wiring. Fortunately building inspectors don't usually get involved after permits are closed but a fire marshal/life safety officer would tag all of that stuff in an office if he is doing his job |
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On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 1:08:03 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:09:03 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 9:05:01 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy The first step is to wire the box properly. You can't connect a box with extention cord like that. Buy a proper "power bar" and plug it in where you have that cord plugged in (you didn't REALLY" hardwire" that circuit with fleible extention cord, did you???? something like https://www.uline.ca/Product/Detail/...E&gclsrc=aw.ds with 12 connections on a 6 foot cord or this one https://www.infinitecables.com/power...iABEgKsyvD_BwE with a 15 foot cord It is not wired with an extension cord, but with properly gauged wire. Andy It is still a device box on a cord. That box is only listed if the "cable" (not a cord) is secured within 12" of the push in entry. Clare is right, you would have been better off with a power strip. Then you would not be having the tap problem in the first place. I usually try not to get involved in these things because the actual code would really **** you off. None of that stuff is legal (cube taps, power strips, 6 outlet extensions etc) if it is not "temporary" (in use 90 days). The language refers to substituting relocatable power taps for building wiring. Fortunately building inspectors don't usually get involved after permits are closed but a fire marshal/life safety officer would tag all of that stuff in an office if he is doing his job It would not not upset me. PLEASE not get too stressed out Andy |
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On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 2:08:03 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:09:03 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 9:05:01 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy The first step is to wire the box properly. You can't connect a box with extention cord like that. Buy a proper "power bar" and plug it in where you have that cord plugged in (you didn't REALLY" hardwire" that circuit with fleible extention cord, did you???? something like https://www.uline.ca/Product/Detail/...E&gclsrc=aw.ds with 12 connections on a 6 foot cord or this one https://www.infinitecables.com/power...iABEgKsyvD_BwE with a 15 foot cord It is not wired with an extension cord, but with properly gauged wire. Andy It is still a device box on a cord. That box is only listed if the "cable" (not a cord) is secured within 12" of the push in entry. Clare is right, you would have been better off with a power strip. Then you would not be having the tap problem in the first place. I usually try not to get involved in these things because the actual code would really **** you off. None of that stuff is legal (cube taps, power strips, 6 outlet extensions etc) if it is not "temporary" (in use 90 days). The language refers to substituting relocatable power taps for building wiring. Fortunately building inspectors don't usually get involved after permits are closed but a fire marshal/life safety officer would tag all of that stuff in an office if he is doing his job Our fire marshal only complains if we daisy-chain power strips together. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 03:33:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote: On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 2:08:03 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:09:03 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 9:05:01 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy The first step is to wire the box properly. You can't connect a box with extention cord like that. Buy a proper "power bar" and plug it in where you have that cord plugged in (you didn't REALLY" hardwire" that circuit with fleible extention cord, did you???? something like https://www.uline.ca/Product/Detail/...E&gclsrc=aw.ds with 12 connections on a 6 foot cord or this one https://www.infinitecables.com/power...iABEgKsyvD_BwE with a 15 foot cord It is not wired with an extension cord, but with properly gauged wire. Andy It is still a device box on a cord. That box is only listed if the "cable" (not a cord) is secured within 12" of the push in entry. Clare is right, you would have been better off with a power strip. Then you would not be having the tap problem in the first place. I usually try not to get involved in these things because the actual code would really **** you off. None of that stuff is legal (cube taps, power strips, 6 outlet extensions etc) if it is not "temporary" (in use 90 days). The language refers to substituting relocatable power taps for building wiring. Fortunately building inspectors don't usually get involved after permits are closed but a fire marshal/life safety officer would tag all of that stuff in an office if he is doing his job Our fire marshal only complains if we daisy-chain power strips together. Cindy Hamilton It may depend on how they feel that day I assume but they can be happy if the strip has over current protection. It can be argued that the only "legal" one has surge protection in it. |
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:04:04 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 8:56:15 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 13:28:54 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 To match the rest of the job you might try baling wire or duct tape. Me thinks you have an anger problem. Andy Not anger. Just an aversion to improperly done electrical installations. |
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:09:03 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 9:05:01 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy The first step is to wire the box properly. You can't connect a box with extention cord like that. Buy a proper "power bar" and plug it in where you have that cord plugged in (you didn't REALLY" hardwire" that circuit with fleible extention cord, did you???? something like https://www.uline.ca/Product/Detail/...E&gclsrc=aw.ds with 12 connections on a 6 foot cord or this one https://www.infinitecables.com/power...iABEgKsyvD_BwE with a 15 foot cord It is not wired with an extension cord, but with properly gauged wire. Andy Not according to the picture. What you have installed is illegal and could be unsafe. Definitely not done "to code" Flexible cable is NOT allowed for permanent installation, and the cable MUST be secured to the structure within 6 inches of the box, and fastened every 2 frrt or so to the wall. Also, that kinf of cable needs to be secured to the box with a proper strain relief bushing listed for use with that cable. |
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On 7/16/2020 9:43 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:09:03 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 9:05:01 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy The first step is to wire the box properly. You can't connect a box with extention cord like that. Buy a proper "power bar" and plug it in where you have that cord plugged in (you didn't REALLY" hardwire" that circuit with fleible extention cord, did you???? something like https://www.uline.ca/Product/Detail/...E&gclsrc=aw.ds with 12 connections on a 6 foot cord or this one https://www.infinitecables.com/power...iABEgKsyvD_BwE with a 15 foot cord It is not wired with an extension cord, but with properly gauged wire. Andy Not according to the picture. What you have installed is illegal and could be unsafe. Definitely not done "to code" Flexible cable is NOT allowed for permanent installation, and the cable MUST be secured to the structure within 6 inches of the box, and fastened every 2 frrt or so to the wall. Also, that kinf of cable needs to be secured to the box with a proper strain relief bushing listed for use with that cable. Agreed it's not Code but it's not likely very unsafe...the biggest practical thing is there is no strain relief in such a box and there appears to be sufficient excess length of the cord that it could fairly easily be a trip/yank waiting to happen... Then adding the multi-cube on top is just Rube Goldberg in action... -- |
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 22:04:58 -0400, Clare Snyder posted for all of us to digest... On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy The first step is to wire the box properly. You can't connect a box with extention cord like that. Buy a proper "power bar" and plug it in where you have that cord plugged in (you didn't REALLY" hardwire" that circuit with fleible extention cord, did you???? something like https://www.uline.ca/Product/Detail/...E&gclsrc=aw.ds with 12 connections on a 6 foot cord or this one https://www.infinitecables.com/power...iABEgKsyvD_BwE with a 15 foot cord Little*** shaky there. -- Tekkie |
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:56:12 -0400, Clare Snyder posted for all of us to digest... On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 13:28:54 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 To match the rest of the job you might try baling wire or duct tape. Only the aluminum duct tape. -- Tekkie |
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On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 14:43:08 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 7/16/2020 1:07 AM, wrote: ... It is still a device box on a cord. That box is only listed if the "cable" (not a cord) is secured within 12" of the push in entry. Clare is right, you would have been better off with a power strip. Then you would not be having the tap problem in the first place. I usually try not to get involved in these things because the actual code would really **** you off. ... Indeed! The combination of NEC and OSHA for job site "handy box" extension cords are, indeed, infuriatingly over-the-top in banning things that are certainly safe-enough to be no real hazard at all but just don't have the window-dressing. Fortunately, some things can be safely ignored when don't have to answer to OSHA... :) I have about 600' of extension cords my wife confiscated from the job sites when she heard OSHA was in town. The deal was "make them compliant or buy a new one". Pretty much everyone bought a new one. The damage was usually in the first or last few feet of the end so I ended up with a bunch of 90' and 40' 12 ga cords. I even offered to give them back for the price of the connectors I bought but nobody bit. OSHA is a funny beast in the boonies like we live in. If there is an accident in town the flying squad comes in. That job gets picked apart. Then they go around town writing tickets for a week and they are gone. Woe be to the contractor or job super who is not paying attention to the buzz about an accident. In the 7 years she built houses her jobs were fairly much unscathed by fines and penalties but she had the reputation of being the safety nazi. Hard hats, eye protection and proper footwear was the top of the list. Next came ladders and fall protection, boots on the rebar and keeping the ground around the building clear. GFCIs were never an issue because all temporary power was on GFCI at the source. Cords were still a problem tho. |
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On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 18:29:02 -0600, rbowman
wrote: On 07/18/2020 03:13 PM, wrote: OSHA is a funny beast in the boonies like we live in. If there is an accident in town the flying squad comes in. That job gets picked apart. Then they go around town writing tickets for a week and they are gone. In the early days of OSHA we got quite a bit of work fitting safety guards on molding presses. Some of them created more pinch points that the press itself but OSHA way happy. My favorite was a safety bar that swung in between the press platens to prevent the ram from closing. In a down acting press the ram usually free falls, pulling fluid in through a big check valve. When the press is closed, the valve closes and the cylinder builds pressure. Something went wrong and the pilot operated check was closed as the press descended. It spit out the pretzel shaped safety bar like a watermelon seed. We got written up for an ungrounded water cooler. The cooler feed was sweated copper all the way back and about the only thing in the shop that had a solid ground. As long as all the green wires were connected the OSHA guy didn't care if they were floating. Back in the 70s I was in a government office that had a paper shear they were using that probably would cut a phone book in half. The new safety switches were on both side rails, about 35-40 inches apart so the operator could not hit the shear while his hand was in it. The first time I saw the safety guy demonstrate it, he cut off the end of his tie. They had that hanging on the wall for years after that. |
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On 7/18/2020 8:29 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 07/18/2020 03:13 PM, wrote: OSHA is a funny beast in the boonies like we live in. If there is an accident in town the flying squad comes in. That job gets picked apart. Then they go around town writing tickets for a week and they are gone. In the early days of OSHA we got quite a bit of work fitting safety guards on molding presses. Some of them created more pinch points that the press itself but OSHA way happy. My favorite was a safety bar that swung in between the press platens to prevent the ram from closing. In a down acting press the ram usually free falls, pulling fluid in through a big check valve. When the press is closed, the valve closes and the cylinder builds pressure. Something went wrong and the pilot operated check was closed as the press descended. It spit out the pretzel shaped safety bar like a watermelon seed. We got written up for an ungrounded water cooler. The cooler feed was sweated copper all the way back and about the only thing in the shop that had a solid ground. As long as all the green wires were connected the OSHA guy didn't care if they were floating. Must have been the same inspectors we had for molding machines. No guards and parts were removed by hand between the platens. We got written up for an ungrounded refrigerator in the break room. |
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On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 1:24:20 PM UTC-5, dpb wrote:
On 7/16/2020 9:43 AM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:09:03 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 9:05:01 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy The first step is to wire the box properly. You can't connect a box with extention cord like that. Buy a proper "power bar" and plug it in where you have that cord plugged in (you didn't REALLY" hardwire" that circuit with fleible extention cord, did you???? something like https://www.uline.ca/Product/Detail/...E&gclsrc=aw.ds with 12 connections on a 6 foot cord or this one https://www.infinitecables.com/power...iABEgKsyvD_BwE with a 15 foot cord It is not wired with an extension cord, but with properly gauged wire. Andy Not according to the picture. What you have installed is illegal and could be unsafe. Definitely not done "to code" Flexible cable is NOT allowed for permanent installation, and the cable MUST be secured to the structure within 6 inches of the box, and fastened every 2 frrt or so to the wall. Also, that kinf of cable needs to be secured to the box with a proper strain relief bushing listed for use with that cable. Agreed it's not Code but it's not likely very unsafe...the biggest practical thing is there is no strain relief in such a box and there appears to be sufficient excess length of the cord that it could fairly easily be a trip/yank waiting to happen... Then adding the multi-cube on top is just Rube Goldberg in action... -- I will attach the cord and provide strain relief. But there are some here who will complain no matter what. :-) Andy |
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On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 8:11:58 AM UTC-5, AK wrote:
On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 1:24:20 PM UTC-5, dpb wrote: On 7/16/2020 9:43 AM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:09:03 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 9:05:01 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy The first step is to wire the box properly. You can't connect a box with extention cord like that. Buy a proper "power bar" and plug it in where you have that cord plugged in (you didn't REALLY" hardwire" that circuit with fleible extention cord, did you???? something like https://www.uline.ca/Product/Detail/...E&gclsrc=aw.ds with 12 connections on a 6 foot cord or this one https://www.infinitecables.com/power...iABEgKsyvD_BwE with a 15 foot cord It is not wired with an extension cord, but with properly gauged wire. Andy Not according to the picture. What you have installed is illegal and could be unsafe. Definitely not done "to code" Flexible cable is NOT allowed for permanent installation, and the cable MUST be secured to the structure within 6 inches of the box, and fastened every 2 frrt or so to the wall. Also, that kinf of cable needs to be secured to the box with a proper strain relief bushing listed for use with that cable. Agreed it's not Code but it's not likely very unsafe...the biggest practical thing is there is no strain relief in such a box and there appears to be sufficient excess length of the cord that it could fairly easily be a trip/yank waiting to happen... Then adding the multi-cube on top is just Rube Goldberg in action... -- I will attach the cord and provide strain relief. But there are some here who will complain no matter what. :-) Andy And adding this. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Sigma-Elect...-Cover/1099067 Andy |
Attach outlet extender
On 7/19/2020 8:15 AM, AK wrote:
On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 8:11:58 AM UTC-5, AK wrote: On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 1:24:20 PM UTC-5, dpb wrote: On 7/16/2020 9:43 AM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:09:03 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 9:05:01 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy The first step is to wire the box properly. You can't connect a box with extention cord like that. Buy a proper "power bar" and plug it in where you have that cord plugged in (you didn't REALLY" hardwire" that circuit with fleible extention cord, did you???? something like https://www.uline.ca/Product/Detail/...E&gclsrc=aw.ds with 12 connections on a 6 foot cord or this one https://www.infinitecables.com/power...iABEgKsyvD_BwE with a 15 foot cord It is not wired with an extension cord, but with properly gauged wire. Andy Not according to the picture. What you have installed is illegal and could be unsafe. Definitely not done "to code" Flexible cable is NOT allowed for permanent installation, and the cable MUST be secured to the structure within 6 inches of the box, and fastened every 2 frrt or so to the wall. Also, that kinf of cable needs to be secured to the box with a proper strain relief bushing listed for use with that cable. Agreed it's not Code but it's not likely very unsafe...the biggest practical thing is there is no strain relief in such a box and there appears to be sufficient excess length of the cord that it could fairly easily be a trip/yank waiting to happen... Then adding the multi-cube on top is just Rube Goldberg in action... -- I will attach the cord and provide strain relief. But there are some here who will complain no matter what. :-) Andy And adding this. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Sigma-Elect...-Cover/1099067 Andy Indeed, can't expect concurrence with out-of-Code stuff in public forum whether anybody might do something similar or not on own. This is one that it seems like a lot of effort required to not just take the practical solution of getting a manufactured power strip instead. It would avoid the need for the additional cube eliminating the problem that the original question raised entirely as well as the unsightly and highly questionable use of the wall handy box as mobile device. If distance is the problem, making the modification of replacing original one with a longer cord would be the neater solution. -- |
Attach outlet extender
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 9:05PM, UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy The first step is to wire the box properly. You can't connect a box with extention cord like that. Buy a proper "power bar" and plug it in where you have that cord plugged in (you didn't REALLY" hardwire" that circuit with fleible extention cord, did you???? People do stuff like that and wire up outlets to 277 lighting voltage every year. But,UL laboratories expect that from the peanut gallery, so these devices and other hardware (both hardwired or plug-in) can usually take the abuse of the wrong voltage/current/ wiring combo. (not that that should ever be the aim, though) |
Attach outlet extender
On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 08:46:08 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 9:05PM, UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy The first step is to wire the box properly. You can't connect a box with extention cord like that. Buy a proper "power bar" and plug it in where you have that cord plugged in (you didn't REALLY" hardwire" that circuit with fleible extention cord, did you???? People do stuff like that and wire up outlets to 277 lighting voltage every year. But,UL laboratories expect that from the peanut gallery, so these devices and other hardware (both hardwired or plug-in) can usually take the abuse of the wrong voltage/current/ wiring combo. (not that that should ever be the aim, though) Clowns will do what clowns will do. Sadly it's the "engineers" (from other disciplines) that do the stupidest stuff, ask the craziest questions, and ignore the advice given. |
Attach outlet extender
On 7/19/20 10:46 AM, wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 9:05PM, UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy The first step is to wire the box properly. You can't connect a box with extention cord like that. Buy a proper "power bar" and plug it in where you have that cord plugged in (you didn't REALLY" hardwire" that circuit with fleible extention cord, did you???? People do stuff like that and wire up outlets to 277 lighting voltage every year. But,UL laboratories expect that from the peanut gallery, so these devices and other hardware (both hardwired or plug-in) can usually take the abuse of the wrong voltage/current/ wiring combo. (not that that should ever be the aim, though) That would be pretty difficult to do in a typical American house. I bet the vast majority aren't close to a 277 volt circuit. American farms have three phase 480 for irrigation and possibly grain drying. The irrigation ones are typically a long ways from a house and supplied with an individual meter. Grain drying is often supplied with electricity to run the fans and propane or natural gas to supply the heat. I don't work with those so can't say what the electrical supply would be. Three phase 240 is a possibility. That would run the larger fans and still allow power for the house. |
Attach outlet extender
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Clare Snyder wrote: Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Clowns will do what clowns will do. I'm Guilty as charged! But the outlet adapter I referred to was like one several items down on that page: "GE 6 Outlet Wall Plug Adapter Power Strip, Extra Wide Spaced Outlets for Cell Phone Charger, Power Adapter, 3 Prong, Multi Outlet Wall Charger, Quick & Easy Install, For Home Office, Home Theater, Kitchen, or Bathroom, UL Listed, White, 50759". This adapter replaces the original cover plate from a common dual outlet. It is held in place with a central screw. Several other slightly different configurations are also available. They are commonly found in hardware stores. If these adapters are illegal, I was not aware of it. Fred |
Attach outlet extender
On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 15:59:33 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote: On 7/19/20 10:46 AM, wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 9:05PM, UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 7/15/2020 4:28 PM, AK wrote: Is there a way to attach this so it does not come loose when I am removing cords? Thanks. https://imgur.com/a/AaRGYH9 Yes, replace it with one like third one down that has a screw to hold it in place https://www.amazon.com/outlet-extend...utlet+extender Thanks Ed. Andy The first step is to wire the box properly. You can't connect a box with extention cord like that. Buy a proper "power bar" and plug it in where you have that cord plugged in (you didn't REALLY" hardwire" that circuit with fleible extention cord, did you???? People do stuff like that and wire up outlets to 277 lighting voltage every year. But,UL laboratories expect that from the peanut gallery, so these devices and other hardware (both hardwired or plug-in) can usually take the abuse of the wrong voltage/current/ wiring combo. (not that that should ever be the aim, though) That would be pretty difficult to do in a typical American house. I bet the vast majority aren't close to a 277 volt circuit. American farms have three phase 480 for irrigation and possibly grain drying. The irrigation ones are typically a long ways from a house and supplied with an individual meter. Grain drying is often supplied with electricity to run the fans and propane or natural gas to supply the heat. I don't work with those so can't say what the electrical supply would be. Three phase 240 is a possibility. That would run the larger fans and still allow power for the house. That is a place where you are likely to see center tapped delta. The small red leg transformer gives them 3p 240 and the big transformer provides the single phase 120/240. The PoCo gets away with 2 transformers. |
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