Ionic Breeze Quadra Compact - no auto restart after power outage...
 

I really like this thing, and it's great for my elderly mother's
apartment. However, we've had several thunderstorms in the are lately,
and EVERY time, afterwards, the next time I visit mom (she lives in an
assisted living facility) it's just sitting there in the "off" mode.
Turns out that you have to push the botton on top to tell it which
"mode" you want (lo, med, hi) before it will start after a power outage.
I wrote sharper image, and they just confirmed the operation, and
advised me to go up to "professional" model which has an actual 3
position switch (not a push button that selects the modes the more times
you push it.) Anyway, I don't want a pro model - it'll set me back
another $150 to upgrade. So was wondering if anyone knows how to
"hotwire" this model to make it always come on in the "hi" mode, and not
need the infernal push of the button to get it going. I only get to
visit Mom every couple of days, and if it's been sitting there for those
couple of days in the off mode, it's behind... and it takes a couple of
days to "catch up". So - anybody know how to do this? I wouldn't care if
it ONLY had "high" mode - as long as it comes up working after power
outage. And, yes, I can solder - and don't mind doing it.

From: Steve Henderson


I really like this thing, and it's great for my elderly mother's
apartment. However, we've had several thunderstorms in the are lately,
and EVERY time, afterwards, the next time I visit mom (she lives in an
assisted living facility) it's just sitting there in the "off" mode.
Turns out that you have to push the botton on top to tell it which
"mode" you want (lo, med, hi) before it will start after a power outage.
I wrote sharper image, and they just confirmed the operation, and
advised me to go up to "professional" model which has an actual 3
position switch (not a push button that selects the modes the more times
you push it.) Anyway, I don't want a pro model - it'll set me back
another $150 to upgrade. So was wondering if anyone knows how to
"hotwire" this model to make it always come on in the "hi" mode, and not
need the infernal push of the button to get it going. I only get to
visit Mom every couple of days, and if it's been sitting there for those
couple of days in the off mode, it's behind... and it takes a couple of
days to "catch up". So - anybody know how to do this? I wouldn't care if
it ONLY had "high" mode - as long as it comes up working after power
outage. And, yes, I can solder - and don't mind doing it.

Can't you just tell the orderlys at the facility to re-start the unit if the
power fails?

At any rate, what is it about the air in an assisted living facility that
requires an ionic air cleaner?

Steve Henderson wrote:
I really like this thing, and it's great for my elderly mother's
apartment. However, we've had several thunderstorms in the are lately,
and EVERY time, afterwards, the next time I visit mom (she lives in an
assisted living facility) it's just sitting there in the "off" mode.
Turns out that you have to push the botton on top to tell it which
"mode" you want (lo, med, hi) before it will start after a power
outage. I wrote sharper image, and they just confirmed the operation,
and advised me to go up to "professional" model which has an actual 3
position switch (not a push button that selects the modes the more
times you push it.) Anyway, I don't want a pro model - it'll set me
back another $150 to upgrade. So was wondering if anyone knows how to
"hotwire" this model to make it always come on in the "hi" mode, and
not need the infernal push of the button to get it going. I only get
to visit Mom every couple of days, and if it's been sitting there for
those couple of days in the off mode, it's behind... and it takes a
couple of days to "catch up". So - anybody know how to do this? I
wouldn't care if it ONLY had "high" mode - as long as it comes up
working after power outage. And, yes, I can solder - and don't mind
doing it.

UPS to handle switch-closure time. $30.

Steve Henderson wrote:
I really like this thing,

Why?

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Joseph E. Meehan

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Steve Henderson wrote:

I really like this thing, and it's great for my elderly mother's
apartment. However, we've had several thunderstorms in the are lately,
and EVERY time, afterwards, the next time I visit mom (she lives in an
assisted living facility) it's just sitting there in the "off" mode.
Turns out that you have to push the botton on top to tell it which
"mode" you want (lo, med, hi) before it will start after a power
outage. I wrote sharper image, and they just confirmed the operation,
and advised me to go up to "professional" model which has an actual 3
position switch (not a push button that selects the modes the more
times you push it.) Anyway, I don't want a pro model - it'll set me
back another $150 to upgrade. So was wondering if anyone knows how to
"hotwire" this model to make it always come on in the "hi" mode, and
not need the infernal push of the button to get it going. I only get
to visit Mom every couple of days, and if it's been sitting there for
those couple of days in the off mode, it's behind... and it takes a
couple of days to "catch up". So - anybody know how to do this? I
wouldn't care if it ONLY had "high" mode - as long as it comes up
working after power outage. And, yes, I can solder - and don't mind
doing it.

I have 8 of those ionic things in my house, except they're called TV
sets. Not only do they grab the impurities out of the rooms, they
provide entertainment in the form of movies, shows, and ads. Once a
month I spray Windex on the screens and wipe off a whole lot of black stuff.

Bill Schnakenberg wrote:

I have 8 of those ionic things in my house, except they're called TV
sets. Not only do they grab the impurities out of the rooms, they
provide entertainment in the form of movies, shows, and ads. Once a
month I spray Windex on the screens and wipe off a whole lot of black
stuff.

With eight televisions in one house, you may have a more fundamental problem
than soot.

Steve Henderson wrote:
I really like this thing, and it's great for my elderly mother's
apartment. However, we've had several thunderstorms in the are lately,
and EVERY time, afterwards, the next time I visit mom (she lives in an
assisted living facility) it's just sitting there in the "off" mode.
Turns out that you have to push the botton on top to tell it which
"mode" you want (lo, med, hi) before it will start after a power
outage. I wrote sharper image, and they just confirmed the operation,
and advised me to go up to "professional" model which has an actual 3
position switch (not a push button that selects the modes the more
times you push it.) Anyway, I don't want a pro model - it'll set me
back another $150 to upgrade. So was wondering if anyone knows how to
"hotwire" this model to make it always come on in the "hi" mode, and
not need the infernal push of the button to get it going. I only get
to visit Mom every couple of days, and if it's been sitting there for
those couple of days in the off mode, it's behind... and it takes a
couple of days to "catch up". So - anybody know how to do this? I
wouldn't care if it ONLY had "high" mode - as long as it comes up
working after power outage. And, yes, I can solder - and don't mind
doing it.

Obviously the speed selection (and power-on) is logic-controlled, so
you'd need to either bypass the built-in logic (may be easier said than
done) or build an external switch. To bypass the logic you'll need to
reverse engineer the logic circuitry or get a copy of the schematic. To
add an external switch use a sequence timer such as one based on a
ICM7242 or similar counter chip. Don't know what a ICM7242 is? Then it
will probably be cheaper to just upgrade.

http://www.intersil.com/data/fn/fn2866.pdf

HA HA Budys Here wrote:

From: Steve Henderson


I really like this thing, and it's great for my elderly mother's
apartment. However, we've had several thunderstorms in the are lately,
and EVERY time, afterwards, the next time I visit mom (she lives in an
assisted living facility) it's just sitting there in the "off" mode.
Turns out that you have to push the botton on top to tell it which
"mode" you want (lo, med, hi) before it will start after a power outage.
I wrote sharper image, and they just confirmed the operation, and
advised me to go up to "professional" model which has an actual 3
position switch (not a push button that selects the modes the more times
you push it.) Anyway, I don't want a pro model - it'll set me back
another $150 to upgrade. So was wondering if anyone knows how to
"hotwire" this model to make it always come on in the "hi" mode, and not
need the infernal push of the button to get it going. I only get to
visit Mom every couple of days, and if it's been sitting there for those
couple of days in the off mode, it's behind... and it takes a couple of
days to "catch up". So - anybody know how to do this? I wouldn't care if
it ONLY had "high" mode - as long as it comes up working after power
outage. And, yes, I can solder - and don't mind doing it.


Can't you just tell the orderlys at the facility to re-start the unit if the
power fails?

At any rate, what is it about the air in an assisted living facility that
requires an ionic air cleaner?

Sorry - the messages suddenly showed up - ignore my repost...

In any event, yes, I have asked them, but they have several different
attendants, and lots of other residents there, and it's not high on
their "remembering" list, evidently. As for your other question... I
thought it might be obvious... Mom is 82 years old... and like lots of
elderly folks, has a bladder problem. A/C by itself is not enough to
keep the air "fresh" if you know what I mean. If you have elderly
parents, you'll learn this the hard way someday.

"Steve Henderson" wrote in message
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HA HA Budys Here wrote:

From: Steve Henderson


I really like this thing, and it's great for my elderly mother's
apartment. However, we've had several thunderstorms in the are lately,
and EVERY time, afterwards, the next time I visit mom (she lives in an
assisted living facility) it's just sitting there in the "off" mode.
Turns out that you have to push the botton on top to tell it which
"mode" you want (lo, med, hi) before it will start after a power outage.
I wrote sharper image, and they just confirmed the operation, and
advised me to go up to "professional" model which has an actual 3
position switch (not a push button that selects the modes the more times
you push it.) Anyway, I don't want a pro model - it'll set me back
another $150 to upgrade. So was wondering if anyone knows how to
"hotwire" this model to make it always come on in the "hi" mode, and not
need the infernal push of the button to get it going. I only get to
visit Mom every couple of days, and if it's been sitting there for those
couple of days in the off mode, it's behind... and it takes a couple of
days to "catch up". So - anybody know how to do this? I wouldn't care if
it ONLY had "high" mode - as long as it comes up working after power
outage. And, yes, I can solder - and don't mind doing it.


Can't you just tell the orderlys at the facility to re-start the unit if
the
power fails?

At any rate, what is it about the air in an assisted living facility
that
requires an ionic air cleaner?

Sorry - the messages suddenly showed up - ignore my repost...

In any event, yes, I have asked them, but they have several different
attendants, and lots of other residents there, and it's not high on
their "remembering" list, evidently. As for your other question... I
thought it might be obvious... Mom is 82 years old... and like lots of
elderly folks, has a bladder problem. A/C by itself is not enough to
keep the air "fresh" if you know what I mean. If you have elderly
parents, you'll learn this the hard way someday.

I noticed this several years ago. Rather than screwing around with the IB I
would visit the hospital admin and have an heart to heart. OR buy an ups
that will ride through the problems.

I am not willing to degrade my investment in the IB by taking it apart and
fooling it.

Steve Henderson wrote in message ...

I really like this thing, and it's great for my elderly mother's
apartment. However, we've had several thunderstorms in the are lately,
and EVERY time, afterwards, the next time I visit mom (she lives in an
assisted living facility) it's just sitting there in the "off" mode.
Turns out that you have to push the botton on top to tell it which
"mode" you want (lo, med, hi) before it will start after a power outage.
I wrote sharper image, and they just confirmed the operation, and
advised me to go up to "professional" model which has an actual 3
position switch (not a push button that selects the modes the more times
you push it.) Anyway, I don't want a pro model -

The Ionic Breeze is not great for your mother. If anything it's
damaging her skin and nasal tissues slightly and may also irritate
eyes because the ozone it generates is a toxic substance with no known
health benefits, except to kill mold and bacteria at much higher
concentrations than is safe for people. Simple air ionizers are not
air cleaners and are useful only in preventing static buildup, such as
when working with photographic films or electronics chips. True
electronic air cleaners generate ozone, but they also neutralize it
with a second set of internal electrodes before the air reenters the
room.

Very likely her Ionic Breeze is simply resetting and defaults to the
"off" condition rather than "on" condition, a common occurance with
any device controlled by an electronic switch rather than a mechanical
one that handles the 120VAC directly.