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Is this mask effective?
On 6/30/2020 3:45 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
The 'self righteousness' idea is just a stupid idea to shame people into doing something stupid like not wearing masks. Erroneous conclusion. It is NOT stupid to reject wearing masks. -- Maggie |
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On 6/29/2020 10:51 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-06-29 20:17, Bob F wrote: On 6/29/2020 3:46 PM, T wrote: On 2020-06-29 14:10, Bob F wrote: On 6/29/2020 1:51 PM, T wrote: On 2020-06-29 11:27, FromTheRafters wrote: T explained : On 2020-06-29 03:43, FromTheRafters wrote: T used his or her keyboard to write : On 2020-06-29 01:41, wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 21:25:10 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/28/2020 7:26 PM, micky wrote: The cashier at the supermarket wears a black mask with what looks like one of these on either side. Like the seashell from Shell gas stations. I had hoped it was decoration, but it looks like these enough I think it's just an "activated carbon filter". https://www.amazon.com/Activated-Fil...tag=mozilla-20 Not only that, she talks low enough I've had to lean over once to hear what she says.Â* "The self-checkout scanners are not on. " I knew that. If they were on, that's where I'd be. One comment:Â*Â* they are directional in that you can aim the exhaust some what. Mine are pointed down and back towards my shoulders. But these valves are meant to make breathing out easier, right? while using the rest of the mask to filter the air that comes in, right?Â* It seems that vents like this defeat the so-called goal of masks, to protect the other people. The valves make them useless for protecting others, so they offer little aid in reducing spreading. Agree. But if a bandana is consideredÂ* acceptableÂ* " to protect others " ... theseÂ* sports masksÂ* wouldn't be any worse. Â*Â*Â* John T. You would not cluster bomb others when you coughed. So maybe slightly better. I very much doubt that. Only stands to reason.Â* What does not get through the mask on it own, builds up on the mask.Â* Then when you cough or sneeze, you blow what you would have blown out without the mask plus everything that has built up on the mask gets blown all over everyone else.Â* So the exhaust hole does help the build up issue Wrong again. Translation: you don't have an argument to present. Better no argument than idiocy like yours. Translation: name calling means no argument to present. LOL! Translation: name calling and mocking means no argument to present. LOL! |
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Is this mask effective?
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 11:53:24 -0500, Muggles wrote:
On 6/30/2020 3:45 AM, FromTheRafters wrote: The 'self righteousness' idea is just a stupid idea to shame people into doing something stupid like not wearing masks. Erroneous conclusion. It is NOT stupid to reject wearing masks. Fine. Which synonym for stupid would you prefer? |
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Is this mask effective?
On 6/30/2020 9:53 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 6/30/2020 3:45 AM, FromTheRafters wrote: The 'self righteousness' idea is just a stupid idea to shame people into doing something stupid like not wearing masks. Erroneous conclusion. It is NOT stupid to reject wearing masks. Yes, it is stupid to not wear masks. It is stupid to deny that. Masks save lives. https://www.maskssavelives.org/ |
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Muggles used his or her keyboard to write :
On 6/30/2020 3:45 AM, FromTheRafters wrote: The 'self righteousness' idea is just a stupid idea to shame people into doing something stupid like not wearing masks. Erroneous conclusion. It is NOT stupid to reject wearing masks. Yes, it is, and people don't wear them just to feel 'self-righteous' either. They do so because it is the right thing to do for society. |
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On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 7:26:44 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
On 2020-06-29 15:18, Hawk wrote: Yep,Â*switchÂ*itÂ*theÂ*otherÂ*way. "if you have a mask with a valve, you are protecting yourself as well as you would be if you wore a mask without a valve. Theres no difference in personal protection according to anything published in the CDC or elsewhere. But if you have a mask with a valve, youre not really protecting those around you, which is at least half of the point of wearingÂ*aÂ*cottonÂ*maskÂ*inÂ*theÂ*firstÂ*place.: Hi Hawk, Suspending the fact that these masks do not protect against viruses for a moment, there is a brief period of time when the value is open before it shuts that air gets back in. I would not risk that in a lethal NBC (nuclear, biological, chemical) environment. Have you found it a little hypercritical that these Lefties only care about wearing an annoyance that is for show only and DO NOT care about those who are actually at risk? Cuomo is killing a lot of folks in nursing homes (ya, masks really work) by forcing them to take infected people. But the Lefties don't care. If I were to speculate, and I know this is a mean thing to say, but it occurs to me that the Lefties finally got their beloved Death Panels. Folks in the last stages of their lives (nursing home occupants) are the most expensive on the system. This way they get to kill a bunch of them off to lower their cost and then blame the whole thing on Trump. They blame everything else they do on Trump, so what is one more thing. ROFL. Another good one. I'm sure when Trump gets beaten two to one in November, you'll be here telling us that was all because of a rigged election too. I think the odds are rapidly increasing that Trump does not even make it to November, instead dropping out to avoid the huge ass whooping that;s coming. I much prefer the ass whooping method. |
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"trader_4" wrote in message ... On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 7:26:44 PM UTC-4, T wrote: On 2020-06-29 15:18, Hawk wrote: Yep, switch it the other way. "if you have a mask with a valve, you are protecting yourself as well as you would be if you wore a mask without a valve. Theres no difference in personal protection according to anything published in the CDC or elsewhere. But if you have a mask with a valve, youre not really protecting those around you, which is at least half of the point of wearing a cotton mask in the first place.: Hi Hawk, Suspending the fact that these masks do not protect against viruses for a moment, there is a brief period of time when the value is open before it shuts that air gets back in. I would not risk that in a lethal NBC (nuclear, biological, chemical) environment. Have you found it a little hypercritical that these Lefties only care about wearing an annoyance that is for show only and DO NOT care about those who are actually at risk? Cuomo is killing a lot of folks in nursing homes (ya, masks really work) by forcing them to take infected people. But the Lefties don't care. If I were to speculate, and I know this is a mean thing to say, but it occurs to me that the Lefties finally got their beloved Death Panels. Folks in the last stages of their lives (nursing home occupants) are the most expensive on the system. This way they get to kill a bunch of them off to lower their cost and then blame the whole thing on Trump. They blame everything else they do on Trump, so what is one more thing. ROFL. Another good one. I'm sure when Trump gets beaten two to one in November, No chance of that, you watch. you'll be here telling us that was all because of a rigged election too. I think the odds are rapidly increasing that Trump does not even make it to November, instead dropping out to avoid the huge ass whooping that;s coming. More fool you. Taint gunna happen. I much prefer the ass whooping method. You have always been completely irrelevant. What you might or might not prefer in spades. |
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On 2020-06-30 10:36, Bob F wrote:
On 6/29/2020 10:51 PM, T wrote: On 2020-06-29 20:17, Bob F wrote: On 6/29/2020 3:46 PM, T wrote: On 2020-06-29 14:10, Bob F wrote: On 6/29/2020 1:51 PM, T wrote: On 2020-06-29 11:27, FromTheRafters wrote: T explained : On 2020-06-29 03:43, FromTheRafters wrote: T used his or her keyboard to write : On 2020-06-29 01:41, wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 21:25:10 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/28/2020 7:26 PM, micky wrote: The cashier at the supermarket wears a black mask with what looks like one of these on either side. Like the seashell from Shell gas stations. I had hoped it was decoration, but it looks like these enough I think it's just an "activated carbon filter". https://www.amazon.com/Activated-Fil...tag=mozilla-20 Not only that, she talks low enough I've had to lean over once to hear what she says.Â* "The self-checkout scanners are not on. " I knew that. If they were on, that's where I'd be. One comment:Â*Â* they are directional in that you can aim the exhaust some what. Mine are pointed down and back towards my shoulders. But these valves are meant to make breathing out easier, right? while using the rest of the mask to filter the air that comes in, right?Â* It seems that vents like this defeat the so-called goal of masks, to protect the other people. The valves make them useless for protecting others, so they offer little aid in reducing spreading. Agree. But if a bandana is consideredÂ* acceptableÂ* " to protect others " ... theseÂ* sports masksÂ* wouldn't be any worse. Â*Â*Â* John T. You would not cluster bomb others when you coughed. So maybe slightly better. I very much doubt that. Only stands to reason.Â* What does not get through the mask on it own, builds up on the mask.Â* Then when you cough or sneeze, you blow what you would have blown out without the mask plus everything that has built up on the mask gets blown all over everyone else.Â* So the exhaust hole does help the build up issue Wrong again. Translation: you don't have an argument to present. Better no argument than idiocy like yours. Translation: name calling means no argument to present. LOL! Translation: name calling and mocking means no argument to present. LOL! You bored? I am. I am watching test backups. Sparring with you is actually kind of fun. Loved one of the studies you send me. It did explain why so many in NY's nursing homes died with masks. |
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On 2020-06-30 01:45, FromTheRafters wrote:
Erroneous conclusion. The probability of picking up the virus particles increasesÂ*asÂ*theÂ*amountÂ*ofÂ*contaminationÂ*inc reases. You are presuming it is a linear curve. It is not. It goes up and them flattens out |
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On 2020-06-30 09:53, Muggles wrote:
On 6/30/2020 3:45 AM, FromTheRafters wrote: The 'self righteousness' idea is just a stupid idea to shame people into doing something stupid like not wearing masks. Erroneous conclusion. It is NOT stupid to reject wearing masks. I think he means well. He just is not in for challenging his conclusions. Masks are useless. And since wearing one (touching your face, etc.) puts you are at more risk, you go out infect and infect others when you are asymptomatic |
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On 2020-06-30 10:40, Bob F wrote:
On 6/30/2020 9:53 AM, Muggles wrote: On 6/30/2020 3:45 AM, FromTheRafters wrote: The 'self righteousness' idea is just a stupid idea to shame people into doing something stupid like not wearing masks. Erroneous conclusion. It is NOT stupid to reject wearing masks. Yes, it is stupid to not wear masks. It is stupid to deny that. Masks save lives. https://www.maskssavelives.org/ Nice try |
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On 2020-06-30 13:14, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles used his or her keyboard to write : On 6/30/2020 3:45 AM, FromTheRafters wrote: The 'self righteousness' idea is just a stupid idea to shame people into doing something stupid like not wearing masks. Erroneous conclusion. It is NOT stupid to reject wearing masks. Yes, it is, and people don't wear them just to feel 'self-righteous' either. They do so because it is the right thing to do for society. Even when it is not the right thing to do for society? Masks are for show only. |
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On 03/07/2020 06:52, T wrote:
On 2020-06-30 09:53, Muggles wrote: On 6/30/2020 3:45 AM, FromTheRafters wrote: The 'self righteousness' idea is just a stupid idea to shame people into doing something stupid like not wearing masks. Erroneous conclusion. It is NOT stupid to reject wearing masks. I think he means well.Â* He just is not in for challenging his conclusions. Masks are useless.Â* And since wearing one (touching your face, etc.) puts you are at more risk, you go out infect and infect others when you are asymptomatic www.sciencedaily.com €º releases €º 2020/06 12 Jun 2020 - A study has found that not wearing a face mask dramatically increases a person's chances of being infected by the COVID-19 virus. -- Bod |
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On 03/07/2020 06:53, T wrote:
On 2020-06-30 13:14, FromTheRafters wrote: Muggles used his or her keyboard to write : On 6/30/2020 3:45 AM, FromTheRafters wrote: The 'self righteousness' idea is just a stupid idea to shame people into doing something stupid like not wearing masks. Erroneous conclusion. It is NOT stupid to reject wearing masks. Yes, it is, and people don't wear them just to feel 'self-righteous' either. They do so because it is the right thing to do for society. Even when it is not the right thing to do for society? Masks are for show only. You seem to live in another world to the rest of us. -- Bod |
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T formulated on Friday :
On 2020-06-30 01:45, FromTheRafters wrote: Erroneous conclusion. The probability of picking up the virus particles increases*as*the*amount*of*contamination*increases . You are presuming it is a linear curve. It is not. It goes up and them flattens out No, I am not. I am not assuming any curve whatsoever, not even linear. The probability is directly related to the amount of contamination with all else being equal. More contamination means more infections. |
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On 7/3/2020 12:53 AM, T wrote:
On 2020-06-30 13:14, FromTheRafters wrote: Muggles used his or her keyboard to write : On 6/30/2020 3:45 AM, FromTheRafters wrote: The 'self righteousness' idea is just a stupid idea to shame people into doing something stupid like not wearing masks. Erroneous conclusion. It is NOT stupid to reject wearing masks. Yes, it is, and people don't wear them just to feel 'self-righteous' either. They do so because it is the right thing to do for society. Even when it is not the right thing to do for society? Masks are for show only. yeah .. -- Maggie |
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